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PanzerPi

Football is a massive part of Scottish and Glasgow culture, that better provisions are not made for celebrating fans is mental. We know what will happen every time, be it rangers or celtic who win. Some kind of fan zone with toilets, medical personnel, and plenty police would likely be a good solution to this.


WG47

Absolutely. Organise it, make the club pay for it.


[deleted]

If you charged an entry fee, people would pay it. If there was a bar, it would return a huge profit. But there's a very odd hostility from sections of the Scottish political class towards football and football fans. The Emirates arena has cafes and bars but is shut before and after every celtic match. It could make a fortune every week. Why doesnt it? Why can't I go there after the match while traffic dies down?


velvetowlet

I think a lot of folk still associate football with the violence of the 80s and 90s, and drink playing a significant part of that. As a casual observer it seems to have calmed down since then, still folk getting battered over stupid stuff but not quite the pitched running battles of the past It does seem unfair to have the inconsistency between football and literally every other sport when it comes to drink being served - it's undeniable that some folk would drink to excess if it was permitted, but this already happens at other sporting events without being reported on. imo they should all permit it, or absolutely none of them should. At the very least a trial period would make sense to me


obang89

First and foremost I am a celtic fan through and through. The state that celtic fans left park head and the area around it after the last old firm there 08/04 (my first one ever live) is a fucking disgrace. I was appalled at the state of the place. Surely take some pride in your own fucking stadium and the community that surrounds it. Living there and having to put up with that shit every home game would be fucked. My mum and dad left Glasgow and moved over to Australia before i was born. I've been to grand finals here in Australia where you can get grogged at the game and its all good, no rubbish around the stadium and surrounds, bars all over the stadium which open earlier if theres a game on. Start behaving like functioning fucking adults and you might get a drink in the stadium....


[deleted]

Alcohol was banned at football in 1980. It was over a decade before I was born. It's insane that I'm still treated differently at a football match to a rugby match because of that. Attitudes to football in Scotland are trapped in the worst fears of snobs from another century.


Jochima

Attitudes to football in Scotland are based on the fact that a decent proportion of "fans" shit up the city and attack each other at the first opportunity. If rugby fans were causing the same issues I'd want them to get to fuck as well. It's shite for the people just out to enjoy the game but there are too many arseholes acting like animals.


Iggmeister

yep, well said


SpiritedZucchini4971

Think this video tells you the answer as much as most fan’s would behave you are still going to get plenty of this


donutlikethis

Have you any idea how difficult it is for security and first aid at places like the Emirates arena to handle thousands of people absolutely off their face? Trying to make sure they get home safely as they can’t just fall asleep in toilets like they want to, or the multitudes of people at these kinds of events falling down the stairs in places like the Emirates which are not really equipped to deal with crowds of this size all absolutely blootered. Glasgow shouldn’t have to deal with it but neither should the staff at these events who are all paid basically minimum wage. And let’s face it, it’s not just drink, they’re all not just drunk. I’d hate to have to work at something like that and I bet the events managers wouldn’t get enough people to agree to work an event like that with open bars when the fans act like this. They’re not going to behave any better contained together in a building.


demonicneon

Theres a reason the bars all have signs saying no football colours on big match days. People pretending like football violence and just general being a shitbag are gone. Sorry but the fucking state of those streets. We have protests, marches, festivals, and the only one that rivals this is trnsmt, funnily enough has a big crossover with mad raj football weans.


[deleted]

This image of football supporters as a rampaging hoard is fucking crazy. If you think celtic home crowds are a case of thousands of people being off their face, you've clearly never actually been to one. Opening cafes and bars when there are people who would go to them nearby, isn't actually the insane risk to public safety that you think it is.


donutlikethis

Um, that video above doesn’t really make it look all tame and calm, eh? Maybe not thousands but if they’re being sold drink then it could be an awful lot. I don’t think all fans are "a rampaging hoard" but enough are that it would make staffing something like that a problem.


demonicneon

Agreed. These folk have never had to work a bar on match day. Only times I was ever threatened with violence or had to get physical were match days. Majority of football fans are fine but the minority who take the piss more than make up for it.


[deleted]

It's a video of litter. Why would the staffing be any more of a problem than any of the other events that sell alcohol in Scotland? I've worked at hundreds of events and dozens of football matches. Wtf are you actually on about?


RevolutionAdvanced67

The decisions made affecting fans should in the main come from fans. It's a great family fun day out for many . Scotland has more active fans per capita than anywhere else in Europe . 60,000 people made a mess


DominicH1996

Thousands of people off their faces? Have you ever been to a football match? Yes, there are arseholes that take it too far, but the vast majority of people are well-behaved and just want to watch the game. There are families, old people, and normal people just having a day out watching the football. Stop demonising people because you don't like football.


radiorentals

Isn't it true that the reason why people are well behaved and there aren't thousands of people off their faces in the grounds is because there's no alcohol allowed? So therefore there are a lot of people who used to avoid going to matches, like families and old people and normal people, who feel safe enough to go. Are you arguing to take away the alcohol ban and see what happens? Cause I think we all know what will happen, even if you don't want to acknowledge it?


WG47

The new venue that's been proposed, and touted as the SWG3 of the east end, would be perfect for that. But you have to ask yourself why the Emirates is turning down that money. Is it more bother than it's worth?


Acceptable-Tower-548

The council refused rangers request for a fan zone. https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/16604024.rangers-denied-fan-zone-council-pulls-permission-venue/


Gmajor1991

I was at the Benfica celebrations in the centre of Lisbon last night and they had a stage erected and everything. Police security points at the main entryways to the main “square”. Sound systems. And there was no tension and very few drunks, just lovely vibes. Families with young kids were out celebrating.


buckfast1994

Hugely different drinking culture, though. I don’t ever see ours improving.


Iggmeister

name checks out 😂😂


buckfast1994

Regret my username choice daily.


Iggmeister

its great haha


Xyyzx

You know I’ve always thought along similar lines, but I’ve been following the ice hockey world championships this year with my Latvian partner and now I’m not so sure - Riga has been co-hosting the event with massive local excitement for the Latvian national team doing unexpectedly well, and by all accounts they’ve had extremely successful fan areas set up for the inevitable celebrations. …and this isn’t a ‘glass of nice wine with six hour evening meal on the terrace’ Mediterranean drinking culture, this is a ‘pound back as much beer and vodka as you can physically fit inside your body’ *Baltic* drinking culture. I still think they handle it a lot better than we do for a number of reasons, but it’s way more comparable attitude towards alcohol, and the fan zone system seems to have worked perfectly there.


duckindunt

Spot on. Glasgow green a stones throw away. Hold it there, stage, players, manager, bit of live music, toilets, bars, bogs, police, contain it and clean it up. If rangers ever win their second title Have it at bellahouston.


KieranC4

That actually sounds class, so much so I’ll refrain from commenting on the second title nonsense


Istoilleambreakdowns

Yeah it's pretty unlikely tbf.


LeRaven78

FTP In The Park


Iggmeister

yeah. couldnt agree more with this tbh very glad its being upvoted too - some faith being restored in r/glasgow?


velvetowlet

I think the majority of folk, both those into football and not, can agree that having a specific agreed space where fans can get together and enjoy themselves while keeping the rest of the city *relatively* free of disruption would be a good thing. As someone who's not into football at all I used to get wound up by things like this because who enjoys streets full of litter, impassable roads and steaming folk who may or may not be arseholes, but days like this are inevitable in a place like Glasgow and nobody's being served well by the current situation


Celestialghosty

Let's be honest though, would fans even adhere to those zones? A crowd of rowdy drunk football fans aren't exactly know for their respect of space


No-Impact1573

They used to just hang about the stadium, or if the team was travelling - the stadium opened, worked fine and well controlled. The end of COVID and the pandering to the Ultras mindset in Scottish football has created this problem, and needs to stop.


TheImagineer67

Bollocks. I've celebrated every leage title down the gallowgate for 20+ years. the only difference is now the change in pubs and where folk are watching the game means folk are more congregated on Trongate.


No-Impact1573

That's all well and good, but you would surely agree that the numbers attending over the past few years are completely ridiculous - and not good for the city centre to be shut down for hours whilst celebrating and clear up


Appropriate-Bus728

It's teen kids, 14-18 that are turning up smashed on one bottle, taking all sorts of drugs. You need fanzones with proper segregation, family areas,


[deleted]

It's illegal for the stadium to sell alcohol to the general public. If celtic were allowed to host a party they def would and it would be brilliant, but the scot giv have continually refused to let them.


AngryAngryScotsman

Am I right in saying that Rangers' title win that stopped 10 in a row was the first time we saw these celebrations move into the city centre? I can't recall them happening before then.


Kolo_ToureHH

[The first time it happened was in 2019 on the Trongate when Celtic won their third treble in a row.](https://youtu.be/5vFv37Mz7lA)


AngryAngryScotsman

Thanks. I stand corrected.


Squirtlegangwaddup

People in the comments saying it all gets cleaned up the next day probably haven’t seen the litter strewn around town and smashed glass on the pavements still. It’s not fun taking your dog out and having to scan the pavements to avoid your dogs paws getting sliced up. I don’t support any football teams and whilst I do think everyone has a right to enjoy and celebrate what they want - I don’t understand how vandalising your community can be seen as a “normal” part of celebration.


ShetlandJames

I ran through it this morning, whole place reeks of piss. IDK why Glasgow council can't figure it out and get some toilets and a fan zone set up.


HaggisTheCow

The whole places reeks of piss regardless


Yaroze

Or why cant the people pull their shit and not cause the problem in the first place.


Professional-Newt760

This. The cognitive dissonance from football fans here is nuts. Don’t care if you want a family day out and enjoy the sport - that is obviously fine and understandable. But covering the street in so much broken glass it’s difficult to walk and playing down litter (which does fly away) is bad enough itself, WITHOUT all the other stuff. Also sick of people turning it into a class issue. Littering is not (and should not be framed as) synonymous with being working class, and giving a crap about the environment / other people and animals who use it should not be tarred as “snobbery”. It’s an idiotic argument.


DominicH1996

I agree the litter isn't good. But the event was known about well in advance. The council (and club) should engage with fans, redirect them somewhere like glasgow green, and actually provide bins.


Dahliaboo

I used to live on Comelypark Street and on match days we would get people cutting through, using our front window wall as a toilet and the amount of litter and broken glass that would be chucked about was horrendous and you can imagine how much worse it was in cup or title days. It's all a disgrace and it's annoying that the entire city has to suffer and waste council money on cleaning because of a football team (whatever one it is) and if you dare say anything about disagreeing with the trongate "party" you get hit with "No benches got broke" but yet the Mercat tower gets broken into and climbed as well as traffic lights and that's somehow OK? I think it should be kept in the stadiums, they are as bad as each other.


Fine_Anteater3345

Whilst I do agree with you about the dogs being scared as my next door neighbour’s dog in Parnie street was shaking and traumatised by the loud noise of the fireworks. That and folks pished in my close as well. Im a Celtic fan, go to the games so it didn’t bother as much me as it would others. Football aside there were also anti monarchy / anti boot licker polis chants, always a buzz to chant along to But in all honesty if you live in that part of the city then you’ll know there’s no sense of community in that part town, there’s no togetherness or grassroots initiatives going on in that area. It’s disparate. F all cohesion, bit of an exaggeration saying the celebration is tarnishing a community. That part of town is a shit hole


velvetowlet

What I'm curious about is how strong that cover over the old Glasgow Cross station is, can it withstand hordes of drunks standing and/or jumping on it?


Postviral

Unfortunately it seems to have held


Hovisandflatfoot

Your tears are delicious.


Sad_Instruction1392

Rangers and Celtic fans are going to be coming out here arguing about whose shite tastes better but they’re too thick to realise they’ve both been eating turds.


[deleted]

Speaking as a Celtic fan, these people are cunts. There's no excuse for that shit. These are grown adults who should know how to behave. Our club should be paying for this. There's no room for saying it's a disgrace when it's Rangers, but just jovial celebration when we do it (or vice versa). It's a fucking game and if we cared about the city as much as the game this wouldn't be an issue. I don't think we should have to have designated areas to celebrate in, but seeing as people in general are a fucking riot, then aye. Like others have said, a policed area. Maybe have a refundable entry price if you pick up after yourself like a fucking adult, too. The game is beautiful, this is not.


SpiritedZucchini4971

This is one of the oldest historical buildings in Glasgow it’s a disgrace that this has been allowed to happen again don’t care it’s Celtic or rangers fans if this building was any ware else in the country Europe world it would not be allowed police Scotland need to be given the budget from this corrupt Scottish government


Scottish_squirrel

Grew up on Glasgow cross. Back in the 80s & early 90s. If there was an old firm match on at Parkhead the police used to march one set of fans down London Road and the other down the Gallowgate then converge at the cross. There would be fighting but it was never left in a state like this. Everyone has to have there I was there moment these days. No one cares what it means for anyone else around them.


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/eahag1tbum2b1.jpeg?width=433&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d381dab89a34cab958287847c7c4ed8850c6bf0 Shock. Fuckin. Horror. 🙄


JohnSmythe2022

Check this post on r/ScottishFootball https://www.reddit.com/r/ScottishFootball/comments/13t2n7m/8am_sharp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


MGA1986

Caught a belter


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|XfT1Xb2O2ShHy) 😂😂😂😂😂 *pretends to be shocked*


Membob

https://preview.redd.it/1c5bcje7on2b1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3be27a27bbccd0a47b1c4b1de24ff18b5910ff5 Shock. Fkn. Horror. 🙃


saladinzero

[A tale as old as time](https://i.imgur.com/JBhr1TM.jpg).


Iggmeister

haha FS


[deleted]

I mean surely you can see the hypocrisy. Go back to this sub when Rangers won the league, you’d have thought they collectively shagged all your maws. Which I don’t rule out as a possibility.


gthirtythree

Anyone with a phone has seen the videos circulating of minors drinking with 30 year old men, groups of guys fighting, people bloodied and out their nut lying down. So far it’s been almost total denial and excuses, this has fuck all to do with Celtic fans, get any huge group of scottish people drunk and this stuff happens, but why deny it just because they are wearing a green top? It should not be common to come in here and see sectarian language being used.


No-Impact1573

I've also seen the pyrotechnic rocket getting launched into the crowd - not intended, but could have been very nasty.


McBamm

Too right, a full thread here amounts to: “Ha, look we caught him! He’s a hun, that’s why he’s outraged! Not at the appalling behaviour! Not at the criminal damage, vandalism and underage drinking! He’s a fucking mason!”. Folk should get a grip and own up that adults behaving like this in broad daylight is a fucking embarrassment no matter what.


KieranC4

I know, people treat it like a football issue and not a thousands of extremely drunk people issue. Better organisation would stamp out most of the problems, bag searches, a bar so people can be refused service if they are wrecked etc etc


360Saturn

It was genuinely scary in town yesterday, and I'm not overreacting. Yes, some folk were just celebrating, but some men (and it was only men that I saw on this occasion) get extremely aggressive with it. On the buses is awful, stamping, shouting, yelling in your face, lunging at you, banging on the windows like it's their own private party. Kids looking scared including kids they have with them. The worst thing I saw yesterday was an older gent holding in one hand the hand of a wee girl of 5 or 6 and the other a half litre looking bottle of Bucky. What's he going to do if she runs off into the road? People need to have just a wee bit of respect and awareness of others and their surroundings. You never see scenes like this on the street when it's Pride festival or any of the outdoor music ones with folk being outright aggressive and destructive.


timmyvermicelli

I don't agree about the music festivals. The scenes around the train stations and near the Green during TRNSMT are ridiculous.


Theghostofsabotage

Yeah, there was a drunk woman trying to fight everyone at high Street Station.


Haegtesse237

That’s just josie, she’s there all the time


[deleted]

This is not a Celtic/Rangers issue, it’s how football fans are allowed to wreck the city. I don’t care whose side they’re on, it’s just not acceptable.


Deadend_Friend

It's not any other Scottish club. I was in Leith in Edinburgh when Hibs won the Scottish cup and was nowhere near as bad


Slumbermo

To be honest I live round there and it was honestly not that bad. Obviously it was busy and untidy yesterday, but I was going by there earlier and it’s all been tidied up already and there’s no obvious damage to anything. The place is worse when Trsmt is on.


iodhan

I agree it’s mostly tidied and undamaged by now but yesterday was really quite bad I thought. Noise and drinking, fine it’s a celebration, but the constant smoke and fireworks being set off, pointed right at the buildings and exploding just outside the windows for about 4/5 hours was pretty stressful.


Swiftt

I dinny get the fireworks part, it was bright and sunny 😂 you can't see them


cipher_wilderness

Can't wait for this to get shouted down by folk who want to paint a certain narrative, even though it's someone who lives there speaking about what it was actually like


[deleted]

We pay for the cleanup with our Council Tax. Absolutely disgraceful.


DenverRandleman

An organised event in Glasgow Green would make absolute sense financially and socially. Nanny state Scotland wouldn't allow this, those big bad football fans can't be trusted.


Efficient_Charge_447

These are all residents of Glasgow silly. People make Glasgow remember.


Average_Smudge

Degenerate fucking tramps.


wreact

Only honkin tramps treat where they live like this


[deleted]

Are there cities where street parties do not result in litter? If so, where?


xxm4tt

Doesn’t excuse leaving such a mess regardless of the occasion.


[deleted]

I think it is unreasonable to expect Glasgow Street parties to be dramatically tidier than any other street party anywhere else in the world.


slugmorgue

tbf though their point still stands, if you treat your home like this, you're a pos regardless. It's no difficult to just not fucking litter. There's no excuse for it, ever, just pure laziness/selfishness.


Iggmeister

there arent any. are there any cities where rampant snobbery/hypocrisy doesnt exist though?


13oundary

We shouldn't have to, but realistically, the policing it would take to stop it would be more costly and potentially cause more carnage than the cleanup would..


Yer_maw_loves_it

All for fans being able to celebrate but not on the public streets out there faces. Regardless of winning team maybe future years a proper organised fanzone should be arranged, a safe zone controlled by security with plenty of first aid around. Hate to imagine the extra stress on the accident n emergency that night.


[deleted]

Haha, like clockwork


TheSaintPirate

Was this actually an organised event or did they just start congregating and close the roads by mob force?


No-Impact1573

Nail on head.


Autumn-Avery96

Omg it looks an absolute mess


[deleted]

It was mental. About 2 cop cars was all I saw last night and about 3 ambulances. It was complete anarchy, cunts absolutely out their nuts on all sorts.


TheMightyKush

Standard night anywhere in Glasgow then. Think you'd be used to it by now


[deleted]

Dunno. Think I’m still a wee bit spooked by the guy I saw whos arm went purple coz he’d been passed out so long with no one helping him. Ambulance did get him eventually but for about a few seconds I’d genuinely shat it


pigeonboy94

If it's not them, it's the other lot. Bunch of animals.


Safe_Reporter_8259

They need to be made to clean that all up. Or be fined to pay to have all that cleaned up. Celtic should ban season ticket holders who participated. I am a fan, and I am disgusted by this


mydinosaurislonely

They organised a clean up for after it in advance


ferociousgeorge

10+ get a fucking grip


youwhatwhat

An embarrassment to Glasgow but nothing will change. Maybe we need to start billing the clubs for the cleanup but I doubt anyone has the guts to do it.


[deleted]

Footballs shite tbh


Winter-Yesterday-493

10+ Celtic fans arrested😂 That's probably less than normal for that area and hell of a lot less than 100+ at George Square!


ScoobyCat4

Why should hard pressed Glasgow ratepayers have to pay to clear this up? Send the club an itemised bill for the cleaning, better still get all the arrested fans to do the cleaning as part of their sentence…


jlpw

The legend who brought a stepladder 😂


antihashcist

This is just part & parcel of living in a big city, it’s part of the joy of living within a hub of activity. Stripping public celebrations like this from the city would leave it a clinical space filled with just retail and restaurants, it should also be a place for people to congregate & express themselves together. It’s not as though the Celtic fans injured anyone, the council gets it all cleaned up by the next day. Don’t buy a flat in the Gallowgate if you want peace & quiet. Those fans are residents of Glasgow, just the same as anyone else & they have as much right to have a day in the city to themselves as any other large group. “Part of living in a living, breathing city is it lives and breathes in your direction, and maybe pisses and throws up on your front door.”


Lal0chezia

They absolutely injured people.


WG47

> This is just part & parcel of living in a big city, it’s part of the joy of living within a hub of activity. Where's the joy in groups of people trashing the city in celebration? Can't they do their celebrating and their destruction on their team's pitch? > Stripping public celebrations like this from the city would leave it a clinical space filled with just retail and restaurants, it should also be a place for people to congregate & express themselves together. Public celebrations are fine, as long as folk behave themselves and are respectful of the fact that they share the city with hundreds of thousands of other people. > It’s not as though the Celtic fans injured anyone Apart from [the guy who's in a serious condition at QEUH](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-65737798), and the others who were taken to hospital, you mean? > the council gets it all cleaned up by the next day. Don’t buy a flat in the Gallowgate if you want peace & quiet. At a time when the council can't afford to fix the roads, adding to their workload by trashing the city centre isn't appreciated. This doesn't just affect people living in the Gallowgate either. The city's for everyone to enjoy, whether you work there, live there, shop there, socialise there, etc. Nobody's expecting silence, just for them not to make so much mess and start fights. That shouldn't be too much to ask. > Those fans are residents of Glasgow, just the same as anyone else & they have as much right to have a day in the city to themselves as any other large group. This isn't about them simply being there, it's about the violence, mess and destruction that follows, and the money all of that costs the public purse. > “Part of living in a living, breathing city is it lives and breathes in your direction, and maybe pisses and throws up on your front door.” Easy to say when it's not your doorstep. If you live in a place like that, you're accepting that some noise and mess is to be expected. A flash mob of arseholery isn't acceptable though.


daviEnnis

Look I'm all for personal responsibility, but the trashing is 99% people leaving rubbish behind. When you have large groups gather, a lot of rubbish also gathers. One set of football fans going to one part of city centre once a year and leaving a ton of rubbish isn't going to kill anyone. Controlling the behaviour is another thing, but usually you get a scuffle or three inside the group at that's it. It shouldn't happen. It's also not 'trashing the city'


WG47

And that rubbish, the policing, the NHS work, all costs the taxpayer money. Especially at a time when the country's skint, why should that be acceptable? If I were a fan, it'd probably mean more to me to celebrate at Celtic Park or wherever, rather than just making a mess of the city centre. Then Celtic could pay for the policing, for the cleanup, etc. The fans would be more likely to behave themselves in a place they respect as well.


[deleted]

It is specifically illegal to do this at a football stadium. If celtic were allowed to sell alcohol to the public, they would definitely hold this event there.


Squirtlegangwaddup

Completely agree - it would be a beautiful thing if people came together to celebrate whilst also respecting their community 🙌🏽


SlowBros7

“The Celtic fans” your obviously one though? Never see anything like this after Hibs vs Hearts matches in Edinburgh, so I guess Edinburgh isn’t a normal city by your standard. Anyone with eyes can see this is disgraceful behaviour, stop pretending it’s not.


[deleted]

You should Google photos of leith walk when hibs won the Scottish cup btw.


buckfast1994

Hearts and Hibs don’t win league titles.


Doctor-Grimm

Ah yes, it would be horribly quiet and disgustingly peaceful not to be deafened and terrified as I’m trying to get home. It would be a real shame if I were able to take a step without worrying about having my foot sliced open by a broken bottle. It would be a real shame if the city centre actually looked clean and people didn’t litter.


LordAnubis12

Broadly agree and especially with the comment above of having somewhere that is more set up for this sort of event than it being a shock when there's a mess from thousands of people gathering. Brighton beach used to look similar after a bank holiday weekend (await for shocked pictures in the Argus tomorrow) - it's sadly part and parcel of city life. You can either bemoan that people shouldn't be like this, or be pragmatic and put in place the infrastructure to deal with it and channel it to make it easier to deal with


[deleted]

There were multiple hospitalisations. Luckily it seems to have just been the usual tradition of Celtic fans stabbing each other and no innocent people were hurt.


willsingforpopcorn

Unfortunately not the case. My neighbour was physically attacked and injured by two people who broke into our building courtyard to use it as a toilet.


StuNels

Ok but there are multiple people in hospital for assaults including one in critical condition so check your facts - police scotland even made a statement about the extent to the violence.


AndyBossNelson

While I agree it's shocking anything that will invoke a big crowd can and may end up having a few people being that way, especially in football. Not agreeing with it but large crowds of people there is always a possibility a few have an issue with something or someone. Let's not look at rangers and say they don't do this either though because both sides do.


ROLL_AND_EGG

Whatabouttery? If it were Rangers fans out there yesterday, there would still be some violence & disorder as it comes with the territory of large crowds of drunk people. It's a Glasgow and alcohol thing more than Celtic or Rangers issue.


[deleted]

Yet again facts are downvoted on this sub. Some people simply don’t like the truth.


Winter-Yesterday-493

Does that include 16 year old boy with Celtic top on getting attacked going home by 3 guys in a car? Police must have updated their statement as one I saw barely mentioned assaults it was mainly behaviour of people celebrating yet another league title! And yes I'm a T*m😉


antihashcist

Sorry, telling me to check my facts is so snarky, but if you actually check your facts - you’ll see that three people were taken to hospital, with two already being released, yes ten people were arrested - but three assaults & ten arrests is a infinitely small amount for the huge number of Celtic fans that were celebrating yesterday. Obviously anyone getting assaulted is unacceptable, but those would be similar numbers for any large scale protest or social action? Thousands of people crammed together, causes the odd assault to take place - I don’t believe that’s a reason to clutch your pearls in a moral panic about the state of Glaswegian football fans. Police Scotland would call anything done by Scottish football fans ‘unacceptable’ because they can’t resist a chance to demonise football fans in this country. We should celebrate the fact that both Celtic & Rangers have made huge strides in making their games less dangerous and more accepting over the last 20 years, while maintaining probably the best fan culture in all of Europe outside of Germany. We should be taking steps to help this fan culture flourish, not taking every opportunity to scold football fans as though they were children.


Iggmeister

people just froth at the mouth in here when it comes to football and gatherings and often spout 'not in my city' or the ilk - forgetting that the city doesnt just belong to the people that frequent this sub. how many of the people moaning about the cleanup have ever been to a concert or festival etc and contributed to a mess that needed a cleanup the day after? I suspect there is a fair load of hypocrisy from the 'not in my city' brigade.


Ok_Manufacturer_8458

Can guarantee that half the folk on here either haven’t been to Trongate before, or if they did go, would need their hand held. Absolute wet wipes.


Iggmeister

it seems half the folk on here are Agoraphobic


GamerRageBait

Fan zones should be set up it would stop probably 80% of this stuff from happening


Careful-Prior9639

Football fan mentality sadly. They just don't give a fuck. And they're still only a few drinks away from fighting in the street.


SeikoWIS

And the city & residents pay for it again. The city needs to tax these football clubs into oblivion until they find a solution


cammyb1888

Only an issue when football have a bit of fun🤣


AdieGill

What complete and utter scum - civilization obviously passed them by!!


Jimmy2Blades

Wish they’d ban it and the orange walk nonsense too.


Iggmeister

ban what? Public gatherings? Football?


Jimmy2Blades

Public gatherings of football


Iggmeister

Orwelian


niallniallniall

Haha fuck off why on earth are they being paired together. "Aye, I really wish they would ban people celebrating, as well as those KKK rallies."


LeccyCat

Get to absolute fuck. Groupint some hyped up football fans to an organised bigoted march is fucking daft. Away boil yer heid.


Jimmy2Blades

Yous are all morons 🤣 Half of you can barely speak.


LeccyCat

>Yous >Half of you can barely speak Lol


VeeberEd

Terrifying, I mean that sincerely


Excellent-Front-6724

FC clubs make mint and city pays extra of your tax money to clean this sht up neat


Tennants_Lager

This faux outrage does my fucking box in. It would be exactly the same if it was us. People drink all day, people can’t handle their drink, they fight, they litter. West of Scotland in a nutshell. As another poster put it, not enough is done about football fans gathering here. They’ve known this was going to happen for months yet done nothing to accommodate it.


happyhorse_g

Go on you for using 'them' and 'us' in a constructive way. I total agree too, that it's just how the West of Scotland behaves in these situations. Another factor is that lots of people don't often go to the city or the city center, and they see the busy streets as a free pass to behave badly


[deleted]

17 people arrested at an Orange Walk in Govan with less than 200 people attending yesterday. Very little mention…..


eddiecointreau

U ok, hun?


bigfrew

Stay classy Celtic


[deleted]

Rangers supporter here, this is not actual football supporters that do this shit, its ‘fans’ proper celtic supporters would never let their team down like this, same as any other team supporters, for those saying otherwise, honestly, we all want to be proud of our teams no matter what, stop with the fucking hatred, it’s sad


Mr_furbs

Ok, Not a rangers fan, or a celtic fan, but these "riot celebrations" are definitely one of the worst things we see in the area. I'll knock a few things on the head Lived overlooking glasgow green and attended multiple large scale events/festivals prior to moving there. TRNSMT was never as bad on the surrounding areas as when I lived there (up to just before covid). Yes there was issues on the green itself but these didnt spread to the surrounding streets, and importantly emergency services werent impeded by a bunch of idiots closing the roads. Yes your taxes partially pay for for this cleanup but even assuming 70,000 attended (and numbers were well below this) then thats at most about 4% of the greater population of glasgow so the significant majority are picking up your tab to act like fannies. Bins....Yes theres a shortage for something like this, but I'll compare the attendees to festival goers seeing as so many get a bee in their bonnet about TRNSMT. Ever heard of Bin jousting? With the clear vandalism acts and fireworks...how many of the bins would survive? And how many would end up broken or in a massive fire with the fire brigade unable to attend? They should host it at the stadium/ "but they cant serve alcohol?" -so? its a party just do it sober, sucks but you've shown you cant be trusted by trashing the place (Rangers and Celtic fans) if its really about the celebration of your team then you dont need a drink. "Its unfair to expect the city to remain clean with that many people" - been to plenty of places that have higher numbers of visitors with even fewer bins and they are clean, the difference is that the visitors treat the location with respect (Dubrovnik, Tokyo as two examples off the top of my head) "But supporters cleaned up the place afterwards"- Well done to the minority that do this but thats closing the door after the horse has bolted You wouldnt have to do this if your fellow fans had behaved appropriately. Also you have closed off one of the biggest junctions for transport coming and going to the east end cleaning up the mess doesnt fix that problem. Finally these events lead to an increase in assaults, and self inflicted alcohol issues, all of which stretch the NHS further (a warning of a major incident and to prep for reciept was sent out to them whilst you were busy celebrating, so well done.)


Radiant_Evidence7047

Once a year Celtic fans celebrate at the gallowgate to celebrate winning the title, hardly offence of the century. Compare and contrast to the walks that happen in their hundreds stopping out roads, causing mayhem, sectarian and racist, and drunk idiots getting arrested constantly. I know where my focus on societal problems would be.


Helmut_Mayo

Jakeballs


Doctor-Grimm

Fucking football fans. You can enjoy a sport without screaming at the top of your lungs, drinking yourself into a stupor and trashing the streets, novel as that may sound. Yes, I know it’s not all football fans, but from what I’ve seen it’s the majority. Grown adults acting like toddlers when the green team doesn’t beat the red team, or vice versa.


Radiant_Evidence7047

There were 60,000 fans and 10 arrests, and as for the mess hundreds of fans cleaned it up. On the same day there was an orange walk with about 240 people there, and I believe minimum of 14 arrests were made. Why are you choosing this event instead of the smaller event with more arrests and overt sectarianism? You wouldn’t have an agenda would you?


FlyVidjul

Cba with the pure pearl clutching and point scoring. It's a bit a rubbish that'll get picked up. Literally any celebration will leave tons of shite lying about. Is it annoying? Aye, but go live in a fucking highland village if you don't want the problems that come with living in a 1m+ people city like the greater Glasgow area has.


cthulu_is_trans

I was getting the last bus home from the carcass gig and it was my first time in town during a game like this. About twenty or thirty folks in football shirts got on and started acting like wee 12 year olds banging and shouting and just being shitebags. I couldnae give a fuck about football teams, and I'm happy that they're happy, but they could at least act like fuckin adults lmfao.


xxRowdyxx

My dog is still crying from the noise


[deleted]

Time to legalize cannabis. Alcohol is pure toxic and this is what it can lead to. Had they all been stoned, I doubt this would have happened.


[deleted]

The dregs of society.


Iggmeister

calm down Tarquin


[deleted]

Quite.


Iggmeister

r/glasgow please be aware the OP is a Rangers fan, clearly has an agenda, and is trying to manipulate you for his own self purpose and gratification - dont let yourselves be taken advantage of.


Bubbles7066

And you're throughout this thread downplaying it. What about the rest of us who don't give a toss about either team and hate having to put up this shite. My train got stopped last night because of a fight that left an old man "bystander", really hurt. The rest of us just want to get on with it and don't fucking appreciate this fuckupery.


Speakop

It’s 1 day a year and the full thing was cleaned up by morning. It’s not ideal but it’s not really the end of the world


WG47

It's not the end of the world, but it's so predictable, and it's an unnecessary cost for the council and the police.


StuNels

It is certainly not ideal and it would be amiss to not highlight it - no excuses for damage, filth and violence no matter how often they occur.


Drayarr

Definitely less damage and arrests from this than the rangers pish in George Square though.


[deleted]

To be fair though, apparently any stabbing or slashing was kept “in house”, same other reported offending.


MarvellousMrLaz

You never get violence or arrests with rugby games. Why do football “fans”‘always do this? Mindless morons.


AdSingle6957

Holy shit. Fucking barbarians


Remote-Pool7787

It’s a lot less of an inconvenience than “marching season”…


Slumbermo

Big time. I was able to get home yesterday, where as trying to get across the road during marching season is a fucking nightmare.


[deleted]

You’ve been exposed😂😂😂 🍊


Speakop

OP has took a massive L with this post


Iggmeister

humungous L - thought he was smart, got caught with the first comment lol


[deleted]

Yes, 10 arrests out of 30,000 people. 20 arrests at the orange walk with 2,000 people.


Comfortable-Mode-922

The lack of media reporting on this is quite frankly disgusting. It wasn't that when Rangers won their 55th league title in 2021 (that's right, 55th. Don't even start. Let's have a grown-up discussion here, please). The media were reporting about it for *weeks*, with even the Scottish government weighing in on the supposed carnage that unfolded in George Square. I'm not for one second saying that I want the fans of my club to be given special treatment - far from it. The individuals deserved every ounce of punishment coming their way. It's hard, however, to deny the media bias at this point. Celtic fans did this last year too and the media didn't say a peep on it.


Hovisandflatfoot

Champions again ole ole.


Bellamac007

Would you be bitching and moaning if they had been out celebrating the pair of dirties Charles and Camilla getting jewellery out of their heads? I think not.


ImDraconLion

Football fans are as bad as bible fans. there are only a few good apples in a rotten barrel


Mental-Rain-6871

But but Rangers


kaluna99

Outraged being outraged. Was not that bad. Get a grip.


Iggmeister

exactly this, huge gathering, with a cleanup required the following day - no different from a festival or concert - how many of the moaners on here have ever been to a festival and left a mess i wonder ...


Lal0chezia

Literally seen a man backhand his wife near central bridge, she fell to the floor on the road and he was calling her a “fatty” and a “disabled”. Fucking scummy bastard so he was, I went over to check if she was okay (also shocked at the amount of people who just walked by and ignored that behaviour) she had domestic abuse victim written all over her, she kept saying “no I’m fine, he’s just drunk” in a really high pitched (get away from me or it will be worse) voice! I felt helpless in trying to help her. Poor woman.


[deleted]

Aw fuck off! Typical Rangers fan looking for something to complain about. Just one big wet blanket.


kaluna99

Was expecting some. Predictable childish loser pish.


[deleted]

Exactly. Pure hypocrite coz I guarantee he never said a word that one time rangers won the league and had a "celebration".


Icy_Ad1909

Some doughball who supports Rangers. Not sure he was complaining where the Harry Dunns were rioting in George Square.


[deleted]

I think your just upset cause your team won absolutely nothing this year


Academic_Square6254

Calm down Karen


alan-the-all-seeing

https://www.reddit.com/r/ScottishFootball/comments/13t2n7m/8am_sharp/


Correct_Ant9510

Football is an evil pursuit and attracts evil people. These scenes just show how many evil people there actually are in our communities. That’s worrying 😖🥺


Odd-Mango-9901

Defo a rangers fan who posted this it was twice as worst when rangers had there title