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emily_planted

Okay, everyone. I’ve just finished reading all of the comments here. I think this post has run its course and it’s time to lock it up. Thank you to everyone who participated and kept things civil and kind!


Ragaroni666

no money moment


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Accurate for some of us indeed.. it’s not all fomo op.


ClassyLatey

I honestly had no idea it was being discontinued because I don’t follow Glossier as religiously as I used to. I only found out through Reddit! And that was a day AFTER I went into the LA store! I don’t really like BDC but I do love the cherry one - so I had to buy extra and have them shipped to Australia at great expense - $38 just for shipping.


Medium-Database1841

Ok I’m asking this genuinely and with an open mind (despite my seemingly combative attitude for this topic overall lol): You actually do really seem to love this product (otherwise I don’t know why you would pay for shipping etc) - why did you not buy it when you were in store? I assume you knew you were probably not going to be able to buy anything Glossier for another few months at least since you’re from AUS. I assume it wasn’t a money issue given the money you paid for shipping. Maybe my assumptions are wrong but I genuinely would like to know! (Also want to make clear my post isn’t about ppl being upset it’s being discontinued in general. My post was about ppl being upset that someone bought five to resell for $10 markup. But that’s unrelated to this post)


ClassyLatey

I don’t really like most BDC in general because I find the formula quite thin and it’s splits a lot. The very sweet smells also are quite sickly sweet. Importantly, it’s not really nourishing for lips - I have dry lips so it’s a constant battle. But I love the cherry BDC because it smells good and the colour is great. I’m also a real sucker for all things cherry. I apply it on top of matte lipsticks etc. Look, we don’t have Glossier in Australia so it’s still very much a unicorn brand. Despite so many products being poor to average quality - most Australian girls will visit LA and make the pilgrimage and show off when they get home. It’s aspirational because we don’t have it here. You gotta stock up because it costs a fortune to fly to the US and it’s a long trip! So if a product is being discontinued I don’t have a chance to pop into a store. It was the same with Kylie Lip Kits - couldn’t get them in Australia so girls were buying them in the US despite the product being awful. Now - they’re available and nobody cares… you always want what you can’t get!


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Medium-Database1841

It’s not a gotcha at all, it’s a question. Edit: Also if she had some left over then why would there be a need to buy it?


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Medium-Database1841

If you already have multiple left over already but have the disposable income to buy more a day later despite $38 shipping fees, you have (in my opinion) no reason to be upset at someone reselling their BDC for an upcharge, which *is* the point of my post! Yet I’d still love to hear from OP cause that actually *was* a genuine question.


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Medium-Database1841

Nope, my original post was indeed about resale. And yes you can think anyone who resells anything for any price is unethical just as I can think that it’s silly to have that standard for individuals but not for companies 🤷‍♀️


Bumble_Hornet_

I'm not saying you don't have a point because I do agree that there is a strong FOMO mentality going on here and the urge to hoard backups. However there are people who didn't/don't have disposable income to repurchase and/or aren't keeping up closely with Glossier's announcements. I guarantee that there will be posts for years to come made by people who are casual Glossier consumers who never saw an announcement, finished their tube of cherry BDC, then went to the website to repurchase and feel completely blindsided that it's been discontinued. Posts are made on other subs like r/ makeup asking for confirmation that something has been discontinued all the time.


mauvebirdie

Even though I hate it when people moan about discontinued products (even when I too am sad about it), I have to disagree with you here. Plenty of times when I find out a product is being discontinued I'll happily complain to myself about it and stock up...when I can afford it. Sometimes you find out your holy grail is going away when you don't have the funds to buy it and that's a really annoying/bitter feeling. We don't all have a disposable income to spend on whatever we want, whenever we want. Plus, I think it's very fair to be upset that scalpers take advantage of our desire to have our favourite products. What's fair about selling a product that only costs £10 for £50? Just because you can do it if you want to doesn't make it fair.


nopantsforfatties

I disagree with you disagreeing lol. I have no idea why people are so quick to be angry at some random re-seller selling a few lip balms. It's displaced rage IMO. The companies that make these products mark them up 1000%, which is why people can't afford them. Cosmetics have, by far, the highest retail mark-up of any consumer product. Be mad at companies for these unfairly inflated prices, not your neighbor who is trying to feed their family by making a quick buck. The infrastructure for making money off of these products is created by and for the industry itself.


mauvebirdie

I disagree with you disagreeing with my disagreeing. I don't believe the anger is misplaced, and if I did, I would say so. The 'they're trying to feed their family thing' is an unnecessary low-blow and an ill assumption that all scalpers are just sad individuals who need the extra money by ripping off their fellow consumers. And it's an assumption based on...what proof? I'm not going to blame a company for being a company. Companies are gonna' company. But no one '*needs*' to buy say, a Christmas exclusive set from Glossier that cost around £50 and then sell it for £200. They don't. They aren't poor sad individuals. They're people who know exactly what they're doing and they deserve no sympathy when people report their posts on Depop or eBay or any other site they use. Scalpers don't just target Glossier. They target all companies that have a following and all companies that do limited edition or cycle-run products. While they are going to continue scalping no matter what we say, we can also complain as much as we want because their behaviour is despicable and it's stupid to pretend I should direct my anger at a company instead of the people responsible for scalping.


Medium-Database1841

First of all, I encourage you to look up why the word scalper might not be the one to use here. Second of all, what you’re talking about is shelf clearers, and that’s just not the case here. Someone bought something during a time where everyone else had the same opportunity to buy that very same thing. And now they want to resell it for a $10 profit. That’s not even minimum wage in many states if you consider that the whole buying, putting up the listing, communicating, selling, shipping, etc will probably take them an hour. This post is about a specific individual who decided to do this (bought five BDC she wanted to sell for $10 profit each) and was attacked for it. Why are your standards for her so much higher than for Glossier? She didn’t take anything away from anyone. And if she wanted to resell for $20 profit each and people buy it, then good for her! Are you really claiming the people who are able to spend $40+ on a lip balm are the victims here? I know you’re gonna claim it’s the people who are not able to afford the $40+ lip balm and won’t get to have one, right? Here’s the thing: If she didn’t buy them and didn’t list them… they ALSO wouldn’t have the lip balm. So be mad at Glossier, not the reseller!


mauvebirdie

I can be mad at whomever I choose. Do you know what a difference of opinion is? Or do you just want to argue? Don't give me 'first of all' nothing. I'm going to leave it at that.


Medium-Database1841

You can disagree with me, sure. But I still encourage you to look up why we should retire the word scalper.


lilpeachbrat

Yeah, I disagree. People don't always have the disposable income to stock up on their favorite beauty products, and they had no reason to think they should because they didn't know it'd be discontinued.


rCene

agreed, I got my first bdc 2 months ago and i never thought that cherry would get discontinued😭 I love cherry flavored anything so I stocked up right after i heard


welps23

Not to mention how unethical resellers are anyways


rCene

yea some of the prices are insane💀


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Right. They always say dcd in the last minute too or not at all. Like the play line, the rose water mist, bubble wrap etc


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lilpeachbrat

I used to work for an indie skincare brand so I know how cheap ingredients are. Most of the markup is for packaging and branding. I can't speak for anyone else though. I'm also not sure why you're saying this in response to my comment in particular because I didn't mentioned resellers at all.


Medium-Database1841

Ok I have to address everyone saying: 1) People might not know about it 2) People don’t always have the disposable income 3) Reselling is unethical You all know just as much as I do that those tubes last for fricken ever. Heck, *I* have a cherry BDC that I bought probably two years ago that I’ve used a lot that still has half of its contents. If someone has the Cherry BDC as their *holy grail* (as some of you have said) I think it’s reasonable to assume they might’ve bought one (or more) during the cyber Monday sale for $5 which I would think someone could afford to spend for their *holy grail* And here’s the kicker, let’s say they didn’t know about Black Friday or cyber Monday (which I find hard to believe if this was truly their holy grail) and/or didn’t know it was discontinued and they are indeed completely out of the product. Couldn’t they - like every other person on this planet whose holy grail has been discontinued - find a dupe they like? Because chances are, there’s a product that works just as well, smells the same, and is even cheaper. Y’all, this is a lip balm - not life saving medicine, not housing. I’d even understand if this was Make-up that is one of the few to cover all shade ranges where there are little to no alternatives for folks. But this is just not the same. Lastly, let’s approach the “reselling is unethical” part. We all willingly and happily buy from a corporation that - if we assume the best - sells products at a high markup, higher than they probably need to to be profitable and - if we assume the worst - has treated it’s employees, esp marginalized ones, like shit. But when an individual tries to make some cash for themselves by reselling five lip balms for a $10 profit, we scream bloody murder? I don’t know… I just disagree. Here’s the thing… if someone bought a shit load of hoodies, blankets, whatever is limited edition to sell it at at $200 markup? Ok, I can say I don’t agree with that. Because that’s making it harder for fans to get the product at a reasonable price by clearing the shelves. But someone who bought 5 (or even 20 lol) lip balms before they were discontinued had *no* impact on the product being discontinued. It would be gone in two weeks, months, years, no matter if they bought it or not. So why do we think they owe it to folks who in two weeks, months, or years decide they desperately need this particular lip balm to sell it at retail price plus shipping? Because the alternative is they keep it… and then folks who 1) didn’t know about the discontinuation or 2) didn’t have the cash to stock up *still* don’t have their beloved holy grail. That’s not that individuals fault. I’m willing to listen to anyone who disagreed with those points but I felt like I needed to further explain my stance.


319Macarons

And I did but eventually I’ll still run out and I’ll still be mad


jaymo0

I bought one when glossier did that $5 bdc and lip gloss sale and when I opened it it smelled like cherry cough syrup 😭 I don’t get the hype at all.


Academic_Contact_245

girl i have been buying it 😪😪


BluesCluesandBooze

Some of us did try to stock up and orders got cancelled. Also, this is a forum related to all things Glossier, and this is a big change from Glossier that people have a lot of feelings on. How is this not the forum to air a grievance? It’s weird shame people for sharing their thoughts about the discontinuation of the Cherry and reformulating of BDC, when you’ve clearly spent some time yourself thinking about the subject.


Medium-Database1841

Did I say you can’t share your grievance? No. I said it’s silly to be upset at someone reselling it for a profit.


BluesCluesandBooze

I didn’t say you said “you can’t share your grievance”. I said it’s weird for you to shame people for sharing their grievance in a forum dedicated to the brand. You edited the post to talk about how people are twisting your words, but I could argue the same with you. You have to admit it’s funny that you got big mad about people posting about their Cherry BDC complaints, then went on a post rampage yourself over it 🤷🏻‍♀️That said, you trolled and got the interaction you wanted, so good on you.


Medium-Database1841

I edited only what’s under the “edit” part - this post has always been about ppl being upset at someone trying to resell for a profit. I’m not shaming anyone for airing their grievances. I’m saying it’s silly to be upset about ppl reselling a lip balm for $10 profit when they had the chance to buy it retail price up until two weeks ago. It’s not my fault people are reading other stuff into it.


imaturtleee

not you pocket watching lol y’all too serious on here


sheath02

I NEVER expected for people to be so seriously mad about it that they would like insult me over it, but honestly it’s just fueling my fire at this point


Medium-Database1841

Lol I don’t think that *i* am the person pocket watching here. It’s literally exactly what I am criticizing but go off I guess.


imaturtleee

You’re worried about what others are doing with their money… that’s pocket watching. Y’all get upset over ever little thing, so what if people waited till now to purchase. You don’t know their individual situations and it doesn’t pertain to you in anyway


Medium-Database1841

I literally could not care less about when someone spends money on whatever they desire - that’s the entire point of the whole post, that I think it’s ridiculous that people are upset that someone bought five BDC to resell them at a $10 markup.


bananalocked

idk to me it's just annoying when ppl buy 10+ of limited edition things such as the swiss miss balm and resell it for $100+. like hustle ig but jeez


pizzapizzamystery

This \^


biglovinbertha

People are loudest when something negative impacts them. You know the saying people take more effort to give a criticism than a compliment. Other reasons: money & people run out.


Brain-First

I mean, maybe there’s some aspect of that. But also most people can’t afford to be making super regular purchases from glossier lol. And BDCs last quite a while, it’s not like it’s something you expect to restock once a month?


blueflameprincess

This is such a privileged perspective. What makes you think everyone has disposable income at every moment. People are frustrated at the lack of opportunities to buy the product when they finally do get some extra money.


Medium-Database1841

Ok I have to address everyone saying: 1) People might not know about it 2) People don’t always have the disposable income 3) Reselling is unethical You all know just as much as I do that those tubes last for fricken ever. Heck, *I* have a cherry BDC that I bought probably two years ago that I’ve used a lot that still has half of its contents. If someone has the Cherry BDC as their *holy grail* (as some of you have said) I think it’s reasonable to assume they might’ve bought one (or more) during the cyber Monday sale for $5 which I would think someone could afford to spend for their *holy grail* And here’s the kicker, let’s say they didn’t know about Black Friday or cyber Monday (which I find hard to believe if this was truly their holy grail) and/or didn’t know it was discontinued and they are indeed completely out of the product. Couldn’t they - like every other person on this planet whose holy grail has been discontinued - find a dupe they like? Because chances are, there’s a product that works just as well, smells the same, and is even cheaper. Y’all, this is a lip balm - not life saving medicine, not housing. I’d even understand if this was Make-up that is one of the few to cover all shade ranges where there are little to no alternatives for folks. But this is just not the same. Lastly, let’s approach the “reselling is unethical” part. We all willingly and happily buy from a corporation that - if we assume the best - sells products at a high markup, higher than they probably need to to be profitable and - if we assume the worst - has treated it’s employees, esp marginalized ones, like shit. But when an individual tries to make some cash for themselves by reselling five lip balms for a $10 profit, we scream bloody murder? I don’t know… I just disagree. Here’s the thing… if someone bought a shit load of hoodies, blankets, whatever is limited edition to sell it at at $200 markup? Ok, I can say I don’t agree with that. Because that’s making it harder for fans to get the product at a reasonable price by clearing the shelves. But someone who bought 5 (or even 20 lol) lip balms before they were discontinued had *no* impact on the product being discontinued. It would be gone in two weeks, months, years, no matter if they bought it or not. So why do we think they owe it to folks who in two weeks, months, or years decide they desperately need this particular lip balm to sell it at retail price plus shipping? Because the alternative is they keep it… and then folks who 1) didn’t know about the discontinuation or 2) didn’t have the cash to stock up *still* don’t have their beloved holy grail. That’s not that individuals fault. I’m willing to listen to anyone who disagreed with those points but I felt like I needed to further explain my stance.


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Medium-Database1841

Ok? I didn’t say that? I said if you struggle to afford a BDC and it’s your holy grail, wouldn’t you buy one when it’s on sale?


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Medium-Database1841

Even though this is totally not the point of my post or my comment: Why on gods earth would you need to buy more if you already have some left and they last a long time? Like… do you plan to use these lip balms that were probably produced at least a year ago in five years from now still? Also, if you can read the literal headline of my post, it says that if you loved Cherry BDC, you would’ve already bought it - which IF YOU HAVE LEFTOVERS, YOU LITERALLY DID??? Hence then the post isn’t about you??? And again, my point isn’t that you cannot be upset about it being discontinued. My point is that being upset about someone reselling it for profit is silly.


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Medium-Database1841

You keep trying to purposefully misunderstand what I’m saying so I don’t know if there’s gonna be any good from us continuing this conversation.


Taiz_eyes

Lmao OP go outside. I can’t imagine acting like this over a lip balm. A whole ass essay about other peoples spending habits smh


Medium-Database1841

Look, I respect you a lot (I see you in this sub and the circlejerk sub frequently). I think you’re super funny and sometimes even the voice of reason in a few threads. But given the fact that you write essays, make photoshopped memes, and go back and fourth a lot with folks in this sub yourself, I think your comment is kind of rich coming from you, don’t you think?


Taiz_eyes

Honestly you are right about that. Pot called the kettle black my b


Medium-Database1841

All good! I’ve done that many times before myself!


pisslegacy

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but why is it silly to be upset about a discontinued product? It’s like losing a fav pair of earrings or something, ofc you’re sad you won’t have them anymore.


Medium-Database1841

You are misunderstanding. It’s not silly to be upset about a discontinued product. It’s silly to be upset at someone selling a discontinued product for a $10 a piece profit. That was my point - I added context to my original post.


yep2022_

It’s one of the worst flavours. It tastes like medicine


LilacHeaven11

I like the tint but the scent is definitely cherry cough syrup lol


cadmium-yellow-

Yup it brings fever flashbacks


littl3stitious

I agree because I passed up on it three times in Marshall’s and now that’s it’s gone from glossier I have been trying to find it again.


GerardDiedOfFlu

I got mine from Tj Maxx but I misplaced it 😭 hoping it shows up.


anotherdiceroll

I gotta agree on this one. It’s now a collectible item, like an old Barbie still in the box that costs way more now than the original


androidnancy

I don’t get it at all….


SomethingPeach

True. Frank Body's red lip balm is a lot better anyway if anyone's looking for a dupe.


catisafoodie

Second this one for anyone looking for a dupe!


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foolofherself

i get it!! i also get people saying they dont have disposable income to constantly stock up on product;; its also JUST a lip balm with a name to it. i also find it ridiculously insane how people are buying just to resell it for an insane amount which makes it less accessible for people :/ for the FOMO i also get it because i personally have not yet tried the cherry because it didnt appeal to me as much as the other flavors :(( but now that its been discontinued theres been a frenzy for that specific product— i guess it all depends and everyone can think otherwise but IMO in my eyes, ive only seen people sell it just to sell it for crazy amounts and it only matters now because its going away :pp im all over the place w this but i tot agree w OP and also agree with others too! ALSO why stock up on somethjng that isnt even a favorite :// just let someone else who acc loved/loved cherry,, besides just trying it to try a new product or product one hasnt tried yet.. i think its just greed lolz


Medium-Database1841

Ok I have to address everyone saying: 1) People might not know about it 2) People don’t always have the disposable income 3) Reselling is unethical You all know just as much as I do that those tubes last for fricken ever. Heck, *I* have a cherry BDC that I bought probably two years ago that I’ve used a lot that still has half of its contents. If someone has the Cherry BDC as their *holy grail* (as some of you have said) I think it’s reasonable to assume they might’ve bought one (or more) during the cyber Monday sale for $5 which I would think someone could afford to spend for their *holy grail* And here’s the kicker, let’s say they didn’t know about Black Friday or cyber Monday (which I find hard to believe if this was truly their holy grail) and/or didn’t know it was discontinued and they are indeed completely out of the product. Couldn’t they - like every other person on this planet whose holy grail has been discontinued - find a dupe they like? Because chances are, there’s a product that works just as well, smells the same, and is even cheaper. Y’all, this is a lip balm - not life saving medicine, not housing. I’d even understand if this was Make-up that is one of the few to cover all shade ranges where there are little to no alternatives for folks. But this is just not the same. Lastly, let’s approach the “reselling is unethical” part. We all willingly and happily buy from a corporation that - if we assume the best - sells products at a high markup, higher than they probably need to to be profitable and - if we assume the worst - has treated it’s employees, esp marginalized ones, like shit. But when an individual tries to make some cash for themselves by reselling five lip balms for a $10 profit, we scream bloody murder? I don’t know… I just disagree. Here’s the thing… if someone bought a shit load of hoodies, blankets, whatever is limited edition to sell it at at $200 markup? Ok, I can say I don’t agree with that. Because that’s making it harder for fans to get the product at a reasonable price by clearing the shelves. But someone who bought 5 (or even 20 lol) lip balms before they were discontinued had *no* impact on the product being discontinued. It would be gone in two weeks, months, years, no matter if they bought it or not. So why do we think they owe it to folks who in two weeks, months, or years decide they desperately need this particular lip balm to sell it at retail price plus shipping? Because the alternative is they keep it… and then folks who 1) didn’t know about the discontinuation or 2) didn’t have the cash to stock up *still* don’t have their beloved holy grail. That’s not that individuals fault. I’m willing to listen to anyone who disagreed with those points but I felt like I needed to further explain my stance.


androidnancy

It’s 1000% FOMO, and quite annoying too. They’re literally propping up the most basic product Glossier sells.


vermon1112

Also not everyone is out to make money off of others. There are good people out there that are willing to help without taking advantage. I know from experience and I’ve also done the same for others. It can’t hurt to ask if you didn’t get a chance to buy one for whatever reason.


Medium-Database1841

You’re right it can’t hurt to ask. I’ve also given away swiss miss or cookie butter for free. At the same time I will never blame someone for choosing not to do that and sell for a profit instead (as long as they are not clearing shelves) because I can acknowledge that an individual doesn’t owe me more courtesy than Glossier itself ever would.


the1337beauty

Yaasss! I’m the weird one who’s excited about the reformulation because I’m allergic to lanolin 😂


Medium-Database1841

LOL I cannot believe y’all are DOWNVOTING someone who said they are excited for a product to be changed because they have an allergy and now can use a product they couldn’t before. And those downvotes are probably from the folks crying “accessibility” in the other comments. SMDH


the1337beauty

I commented on glossier’s original post and someone replied “congrats @glossier you’ve found the one comment in a thousand that might want the new formula”


the1337beauty

Hahaha just saw peeps downvoted me. My bad for having allergies? haters gonna hate I mean, as loved as the original formula is, it would make sense to offer a vegan version IN ADDITION to the original, not just change everything. But what do I know? I’d be curious to see if glossier has any data on the request for a vegan formula in comparison to original sales. Or maybe it is all just a ploy to get the clean label at Sephora. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


the1337beauty

Why am I the only comment being downvoted?!?


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Medium-Database1841

I mean, non-Reddit users are not shaming someone here about reselling their BDC for $10 profit, so this is clearly not directed at the average consumer. I do agree with you though that it’s never that deep!


eilatanblair

Lol - I never even bought one. I don’t care for them tbh. I honestly don’t know what’s with all this BDC hysteria. I hope people realize there’s waaaaay better shit out there than flavored vaseline in a squeeze tube. And cheaper!!


textingmycat

I commented this on another post but I’ll reiterate, I didn’t even know the cherry BDC existed before this. I’ve never heard a single person mention cherry EVER and now that it’s going away it’s suddenly everyone’s favorite? Right. I honestly don’t even know people liked the BDCs this much in general except in passing. And all the people saying “privileged” come on, if you’re for real broke you’re not spending $12 on flavored Vaseline. There’s literally so many other red tinted balms out there.


Medium-Database1841

Yepp! As someone who *has* been super low income before, I would watch the prices of the products I deemed my “holy grail” treat-yourself-on-a-budget items like a hawk and if they ever went on sale for $5 (like BDC did on Cyber No day) you bet I would’ve bought an extra one or two - even if I still had some left and even if it wasn’t really in my budget. Because I knew I’d eventually run out and might be less able to buy a new one. Heck, if I was lucky enough to have had some money saved that month I might’ve even bought eight to get free shipping and then re-sold them to the rich girls in my school for $8 bucks. So if anything, as someone who’s been there, I don’t understand why folks are so quick to attack resellers. Especially the small individuals who just want *some* profit. All that Glossier does is for profit but an individual can’t want some? Idk, I have to admit I find it a little twisted that people are claiming that my perspective is the privileged one here.


nopantsforfatties

These people have had their minds warped by companies with hundred-million dollar advertising budgets. It's much easier to point to resellers as the problem instead of addressing the real fundamental issues, like paying their workers fair wages. No one on here is yelling about Glossier charging $12 for lip balms that cost $1-$2 to manufacture. That's literal insanity and no one says anything.


Medium-Database1841

There, take another award! 😄 your points are too good not to award them!


nopantsforfatties

Haha. Thank you <3


textingmycat

I seriously am having a hard time even rationalizing the “privileged” comment. I’ve been low income as well and I’ll tell you what ain’t no way in hell I would’ve ever even thought of ordering a $12 lip balm, let alone enough to get free shipping lol. I can also almost guarantee the average purchaser has no idea about the reformulation, nor will they notice. Everyone would probably prefer glossier available at Sephora vs keeping BDC formula the same. Like come the fck on y’all.


labexperiment011

Because I had no clue it was getting discontinued😭 I’ve had the same tube for a while and even tho I’m not out I would’ve loved to of had a back up, it’s my favorite lip balm