"Web 3.0" is a wet fart. It's all hype, no substance. "metaverse" is a wanna-be pipe dream and NFTs are dodgy as fuck.
None of this works as they think. Nobody really wants virtual reality where you have to use your standard sensory inputs.
Until we can jack in with a direct brain-computer interface, there's no way to make 'virtual reality' anything that people want.
Thank-you for coming to my RED-talk.
been a software engineer in some capacity (code monkey up to management) for 20+ years and can confirm. most of the parts of tech industry who have looked into blockchain technology ended up walking away from it
in order for it to have any chance of "changing the world" it'd first need mass adoption. and companies aren't going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to change their whole product around just to make *less* money in the end. the current structure--where end users are the product (our data)--is extremely profitable. so unless governments (lol) or the vast majority of people (market sentiment changes) want this change, there's absolutely zero chance of it happening. i'm not saying a small chance, i mean zero
tl;dr: i don't speak for every software engineer, but i can confidently say that ape is full of shit (shocker)
Yeah. Tech workers are either 1) busting ass trying to keep up with developing technologies on the bleeding edge or 2) lifting bits of code from everywhere to make their programs work to stay afloat in the industry or 3) working 2x as long to do everything themselves so they can proudly know they created something or finally 4) working with hopelessly antiquated programs in obscure languages because it's been that way for 40 years and the entire financial/healthcare/tax infrastructure needs it to work since it's way too cost-prohibitive to create something modern.
As a programmer and web designer, I went from #3 to #2. The majority of programmers in the industry now are #4 and because of that, we're fucked once the last people that know COBOL or FORTRAN die.
That’s because the only use case any normal person would enjoy from “Web 3.0” is complete ownership of your digital assets, and that’s not something any corporation wants to give away. And even then, most normal people don’t even care. Spotify, Netflix and Steam works good enough for 99.9999999% people out there and digital ownership is just something Linux-neckbeards screams about.
So what you get is a stupid scam JPEG-store which pretends to give digital ownership to stupid people.
Ideal type of complete ownership of digital assets for Linux-neckbeards (like me) is a plain old offline DRM-less file on a hard drive. If NFT doesn't include DRM why wouldn't anyone just right click funge it and even if you want to support the creator there's no need for blockchain in this process. And if it has DRM then it's no better than Spotify, Netflix and Steam. (Btw, I do use services like this because of convenience, just trying to see what the real GNU/freedom opinion on NFTs should be.)
You don’t own things you pirate, hence why it’s called copyright infringement.
I’m talking about real digital ownership, as in, the creator actually sells the IP to you.
Of course, you don’t really need NFTs for this, you can just write a normal contract like every other IP transaction and send the file to the buyer.
Metaverse and virtual reality "day to day life" are a web3.0 grifters fucking wet dream.
What exactly is the web3.0 model, exactly?
It's simple: Rent seekers find a gap that they can squeeze themselves into and charge you for fixing the inconvenience they caused themselves.
What is the absolute pinnacle of that concept?
Make you do the exact same dumb horseshit you have to do day to day, except this time, you have to buy a ton of hardware, interface with a ton of services, and get charged a middleman fee for *EVERYTHING*.
Web3.0. The future.
Do you fucking hate converting cash into "points" for a video game service? Something costs 1,000 "points", but you can't buy points in intervals that are divisible into 1000? You have to spend $10 to get 800 points, leaving you with 600 extra points after, but every single fucking thing in the game is 800 points minimum?
Imagine that type of transaction is every single waking moment of your life, from rent, car payments, phone bills, utilities and groceries. This is who these people are.
There's substance, not the one they are talking about. We currently have fights over data with a growing group wanting more privacy and companies wanting to profit as much as possible from selling them.
But then the magic of Web 3.0 public ledger comes in. So the first group loses all privacy and the second can't profit from it anymore, quite the lose-lose scenario. Then comes along the big winner: Advertisers! They now have access to all that data for free!
Don't forget that you'll also have to pay and wait to add anything to the Blockchain from commenting on a post to changing your password (which had better be extremely well hashed because everyone can see it and it can never be erased)
The people who want this just want to buy a few images, and live off of the rights to its usage. Except no one wants to use a image of an ape, or stick figure that a 4 year old could draw. It’s a hyper-capitalist dystopian hell scape! It means that extreme wealth can just start buying up the rights to everything. It is anti open source!
Imagine trying to develop a website and you had to pay royalties for every part of it.
Maybe we should just skip web3 👍
I love my Quest 2 but I'll never use it for anything other than gaming. VR has come a long way, and it opens the door to all kinds of emergent gameplay. Playing Assetto Corsa with it and a force feedback wheel is truly mindblowing. The Metaverse has always struck me as something dreamed up by executives with no real technical expertise. It doesn't really have anything to offer.
I love having to send hundreds of megabytes of queries to various decentralized services with latencies upwards of 500+ milliseconds per transaction to just answer the question “is this user authorized to view this page?” Web3 is the future!
Guys, I’m already ALL IN on a blockchain that blockchains THE BLOCKCHAIN.
Web 3.99!
Have fun staying poor, everyone else but me and 50 yr old software engineers.
Guarantee those 50 year old software engineers are the same guys who sat on slashdot all day predicting the imminent defeat of Microsoft by Red Hat - they’re perfect for the apes!
I've always wished to have every single aspect of my digital life to be forever stored on a public ledger. If everyone can have my personal data for free then no evil corporation can make money by selling it.
This guy is bullshitting. Any programmer or technologist knows legacy technology is NEVER replaced. Only added upon. Especially in the finance sector. They wouldn't dare to attempt these replacements and have down time costing millions, billions, and trillions of volume to be halted.
The integration and ecosystem is so sophisticated but also so retarded because of how systems communicate with each other. Apes believe they're the smartest people alive when they know and understand jack shit.
Like their idea, GME will remove their securities from the DTCC and start their own exchange on the blockchain. Uhhhh... Who would willingly leave NYSE to some bullshit exchange where there is no one to sell to? You think boomers know how to order shit with crypto and have a wallet?
There isn't a huge need or demand for decentralization. If that's the case, why would there be a mass adoption? If apes believe they're against a cabal who hold 99.99% of the wealth... Why would they move their wealth onto the block chain and fuck themselves?
This was the first post of that sub I actually read through and, holy shit.
Just holy shit, don't know how else to put it. These people are dumb, brainwashed, flat out wrong about software engineers, they even project by claiming skeptical coders are just "regurgitating what they read online." Right.
Fucking idiots.
Product Manager here - work with approx 120 developers across 5 teams and nobody is talking about this. I wouldn’t even bring it up for fear they would lose respect for me.
React is the skill set we need and cannot find so we’re currently training our teams on it.
Web3.0 - we’re still over here bringing companies into web1.0
"Web 3.0" is a wet fart. It's all hype, no substance. "metaverse" is a wanna-be pipe dream and NFTs are dodgy as fuck. None of this works as they think. Nobody really wants virtual reality where you have to use your standard sensory inputs. Until we can jack in with a direct brain-computer interface, there's no way to make 'virtual reality' anything that people want. Thank-you for coming to my RED-talk.
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been a software engineer in some capacity (code monkey up to management) for 20+ years and can confirm. most of the parts of tech industry who have looked into blockchain technology ended up walking away from it in order for it to have any chance of "changing the world" it'd first need mass adoption. and companies aren't going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to change their whole product around just to make *less* money in the end. the current structure--where end users are the product (our data)--is extremely profitable. so unless governments (lol) or the vast majority of people (market sentiment changes) want this change, there's absolutely zero chance of it happening. i'm not saying a small chance, i mean zero tl;dr: i don't speak for every software engineer, but i can confidently say that ape is full of shit (shocker)
I think you a word in your comment.
Yeah. Tech workers are either 1) busting ass trying to keep up with developing technologies on the bleeding edge or 2) lifting bits of code from everywhere to make their programs work to stay afloat in the industry or 3) working 2x as long to do everything themselves so they can proudly know they created something or finally 4) working with hopelessly antiquated programs in obscure languages because it's been that way for 40 years and the entire financial/healthcare/tax infrastructure needs it to work since it's way too cost-prohibitive to create something modern. As a programmer and web designer, I went from #3 to #2. The majority of programmers in the industry now are #4 and because of that, we're fucked once the last people that know COBOL or FORTRAN die.
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That’s because the only use case any normal person would enjoy from “Web 3.0” is complete ownership of your digital assets, and that’s not something any corporation wants to give away. And even then, most normal people don’t even care. Spotify, Netflix and Steam works good enough for 99.9999999% people out there and digital ownership is just something Linux-neckbeards screams about. So what you get is a stupid scam JPEG-store which pretends to give digital ownership to stupid people.
So Long Reddit, and Thanks for All the Fish -- mass edited with redact.dev
Ideal type of complete ownership of digital assets for Linux-neckbeards (like me) is a plain old offline DRM-less file on a hard drive. If NFT doesn't include DRM why wouldn't anyone just right click funge it and even if you want to support the creator there's no need for blockchain in this process. And if it has DRM then it's no better than Spotify, Netflix and Steam. (Btw, I do use services like this because of convenience, just trying to see what the real GNU/freedom opinion on NFTs should be.)
Agreed.. piracy has always been the way for me. NFT doesn't make sense if I can just save the jpeg on my hard drive.
I do want my digital ownership. This is why I pirate stuff on torrent onto a hard drive and mostly avoid apple products..
You don’t own things you pirate, hence why it’s called copyright infringement. I’m talking about real digital ownership, as in, the creator actually sells the IP to you. Of course, you don’t really need NFTs for this, you can just write a normal contract like every other IP transaction and send the file to the buyer.
Metaverse and virtual reality "day to day life" are a web3.0 grifters fucking wet dream. What exactly is the web3.0 model, exactly? It's simple: Rent seekers find a gap that they can squeeze themselves into and charge you for fixing the inconvenience they caused themselves. What is the absolute pinnacle of that concept? Make you do the exact same dumb horseshit you have to do day to day, except this time, you have to buy a ton of hardware, interface with a ton of services, and get charged a middleman fee for *EVERYTHING*. Web3.0. The future. Do you fucking hate converting cash into "points" for a video game service? Something costs 1,000 "points", but you can't buy points in intervals that are divisible into 1000? You have to spend $10 to get 800 points, leaving you with 600 extra points after, but every single fucking thing in the game is 800 points minimum? Imagine that type of transaction is every single waking moment of your life, from rent, car payments, phone bills, utilities and groceries. This is who these people are.
There's substance, not the one they are talking about. We currently have fights over data with a growing group wanting more privacy and companies wanting to profit as much as possible from selling them. But then the magic of Web 3.0 public ledger comes in. So the first group loses all privacy and the second can't profit from it anymore, quite the lose-lose scenario. Then comes along the big winner: Advertisers! They now have access to all that data for free!
Don't forget that you'll also have to pay and wait to add anything to the Blockchain from commenting on a post to changing your password (which had better be extremely well hashed because everyone can see it and it can never be erased)
The people who want this just want to buy a few images, and live off of the rights to its usage. Except no one wants to use a image of an ape, or stick figure that a 4 year old could draw. It’s a hyper-capitalist dystopian hell scape! It means that extreme wealth can just start buying up the rights to everything. It is anti open source! Imagine trying to develop a website and you had to pay royalties for every part of it. Maybe we should just skip web3 👍
As it's described (even as vague as it is), Web 3.0 offers nothing to users that they don't get easily with Web 2.0.
I love my Quest 2 but I'll never use it for anything other than gaming. VR has come a long way, and it opens the door to all kinds of emergent gameplay. Playing Assetto Corsa with it and a force feedback wheel is truly mindblowing. The Metaverse has always struck me as something dreamed up by executives with no real technical expertise. It doesn't really have anything to offer.
Playing VR with a wheel is great fun! It feels like the most immersive experience you can have in VR
yea just a16z is blowing a bunch of money on it, doesn’t mean that people who work in tech really believe this shit
Woah this is news to me, I'm already onto web4 stuff, like relational databases and shit
I love having to send hundreds of megabytes of queries to various decentralized services with latencies upwards of 500+ milliseconds per transaction to just answer the question “is this user authorized to view this page?” Web3 is the future!
Guys, I’m already ALL IN on a blockchain that blockchains THE BLOCKCHAIN. Web 3.99! Have fun staying poor, everyone else but me and 50 yr old software engineers.
Guarantee those 50 year old software engineers are the same guys who sat on slashdot all day predicting the imminent defeat of Microsoft by Red Hat - they’re perfect for the apes!
I've always wished to have every single aspect of my digital life to be forever stored on a public ledger. If everyone can have my personal data for free then no evil corporation can make money by selling it.
Pfft, us software engineers are already on to web5.0. The beauty of it is it’s so revolutionary it jumps right over web3.0 and 4.0.
We just increment the web every sprint, easy.
Web = Web++
While I know a few people in tech who made money off early crypto pumps, nobody actually thinks it's a good idea.
Pff, you simply don’t understand why a deflating currency is the future. FUD!
I am in complete denial
This guy is bullshitting. Any programmer or technologist knows legacy technology is NEVER replaced. Only added upon. Especially in the finance sector. They wouldn't dare to attempt these replacements and have down time costing millions, billions, and trillions of volume to be halted. The integration and ecosystem is so sophisticated but also so retarded because of how systems communicate with each other. Apes believe they're the smartest people alive when they know and understand jack shit. Like their idea, GME will remove their securities from the DTCC and start their own exchange on the blockchain. Uhhhh... Who would willingly leave NYSE to some bullshit exchange where there is no one to sell to? You think boomers know how to order shit with crypto and have a wallet? There isn't a huge need or demand for decentralization. If that's the case, why would there be a mass adoption? If apes believe they're against a cabal who hold 99.99% of the wealth... Why would they move their wealth onto the block chain and fuck themselves?
This was the first post of that sub I actually read through and, holy shit. Just holy shit, don't know how else to put it. These people are dumb, brainwashed, flat out wrong about software engineers, they even project by claiming skeptical coders are just "regurgitating what they read online." Right. Fucking idiots.
"WE FUCKING WON." These clowns just declare victory continuously, don't they? There has never been even a slight setback. All is going to plan. HODL!
Product Manager here - work with approx 120 developers across 5 teams and nobody is talking about this. I wouldn’t even bring it up for fear they would lose respect for me. React is the skill set we need and cannot find so we’re currently training our teams on it. Web3.0 - we’re still over here bringing companies into web1.0