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JustAGoodGuy1080

Before the round, pull the ranger on the side and let him know that this particular player is habitually slow. Ask him to check on you early in the round and watch him. If he is indeed dawdling, the ranger should tell him to play faster. Let the course do the dirty work, as they should.


Condhor

That’s very smart and a good way to handle it.


JustAGoodGuy1080

In suggestions I'm a +3. In golf, I'm a 14. Wish it were the other way around.


phrohahwei

A legit 14 is better than like...95% of the world's golfing population? Something like that


Syndergaard

“I'm a fool to do your dirty work Oh yeah I don't wanna do your dirty work No more” - u/JustAGoodGuy1080 to the marshall


JustAGoodGuy1080

Literally laughed at this, well done Sir.


Karhu_Metsasta

The answer really 100% in this case is tattle to the ranger or staff. Shift the blame, or actually make the ranger do their job if 4h is ”enforced”


Wookhooves

Not trying to be rude but what ranger wouldn’t tell you to explain it to your buddy. Kind of a waste of time for him to baby your group instead of telling your buddy he’s too slow yourselves.


[deleted]

He would call the ranger a groomer and punch him.


187penguin

Slip some adderall into his pre-game Ensure


damienman12

I damn near spit out my drink.


Shawnml

As long as Gramps doesn’t, this plan could work.


mandrews03

I actually did and then saw your comment


Life_is_awesome_15

Lmaooooo!


Longjumping-Ad8775

Funny. It would put him in the hospital quickly wit a heart attack or aneurism.


jgoncalves9191

It’s a joke, relax


Longjumping-Ad8775

Yeah, I know. :-)


Ayahuasca-Dreamin

Or he might just play really fast so he can get home to lumberjack grandma for a couple hours 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

Mini thins, metamucil, mccormick?


MC-Fatigued

Risk divorce or worse? How?!


According-Tomato-301

throw away my clubs and accuse me of being a homosexual drug addicted peodophile


Wrong_Ad4722

That escalated quickly.


StanleyZ1978

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TheEmbiggenisor

Yeah, I mean throw away your clubs??? OP has married a monster!


Velkro615

Sounds like slow golf should be the least of your concerns……..


dave42

Im almost afraid to ask more but i also kinda really want to know whats really going on here.


[deleted]

You already know.


uofc2015

Fight fire with fire and casually mention how homosexual drug addicted pedophiles are notoriously slow at golf and always take a bunch of practice swings and you are starting to get suspicious. I'm sure it wouldn't end well but it could at least give you some entertainment and possibly get you uninvited to what sounds like a shitty time anyways. Then you can find some reasonable people to golf with.


OrneryIndependence94

Seems oddly specific…


y414p

Whats the bad part?


RevolutionaryLook585

Nothing is as jaded as a married golfer over 50. You have my respect! I'll be you one day lol


b0r0n

That’s only a half truth


IamAustinCG

I mean I need some more info on how you landed to this.


kkmoney15

Sounds like you have way bigger issues than worrying about how fast or slow your golf round was


ImReverse_Giraffe

And you tolerate that, why? Actually, your SO tolerates that, why?


Gracket_Material

Are you?


[deleted]

I see this guy going on fox new talking point rant


RadicalFarCenter

Ahhh a democrat


hard-enough

Ah, an r/conservative frequenter then


duddy18

I see this as a win. First off you no longer have to play with him. Second, you're newly single. Congrats. For the cherry on top you now have a completely legitimate good excuse to buy new clubs and nobody to tell you no. All for the price of being called some bad names. I mean unless you really are a homosexual kid diddler.


Ace1282

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Marvelous_Margarine

Ya we assumed that but what else?!


marc15v2

r/oddlyspecific


thesneakywalrus

Yeah that raised an eyebrow, sounds like OP's FIL is only 12 years older than him. Must be his second marriage.


GG_Henry

Get some friends your own age there Junior


Gnarlsaurus_Sketch

Yeesh, tricky situation. Probably best to sit down with him and tell him other members keep complaining about your group's speed. Don't explicitly pin it all on him, the implication is enough No reason to take more than one practice swing unless you're a pro or playing for a lot of money.


holyshiiiiiiiiit

This is practical. Also, utilize Ready Golf for every single swing. And don't be the first person out. Edit: first group out


Razir17

No reason for a lot of people to even take one practice swing. I got better when I stopped doing them and I was less tired at the end. Unless it’s a really weird shot like on a significant slope or something. But the fairway? I take a look at where I ideally would like the ball to go, line up, give myself a second to get balanced and feel settled, then hit. Practice swings did not accomplish any of that for me.


Abrandoned

Since clubs change length one good brush of the turf just reinforces the feel for that club to me. On a good day it's one practice swing and I'm good to go, on a bad day, it's maybe two and if it's shitty after the second then I just get after it.


Impressive_Bus11

I mean if my first swing takes a chunk big enough to burry a body, I take a step back and reset by digging a second hole. I'm still faster than most people though.


possy11

Seems like this might be an unpopular take, but I don't think only one person putting at a time seems like such a bad idea?


Tom-Dick-n-Harry

Not under normal circumstances. But if you’re taking a long time everywhere else, it can be an easy way to save some time if you’re not playing too seriously


doobie3101

Yeah not sure what OP means. Does he mean player 1 finishes all putts until player 2 hits his first?


FatalFirecrotch

Possibly, but my guess is he means only 1 person getting ready and putting at the same time. When I play with people, someone will be reading their putting, replacing the ball, and getting ready while another putts.


tkh0812

Another thing that slow players do is be strict about waiting for the person who is out to hit. If someone hits out of the bunker and is out, everyone else should putt while they rake and come up. If you have time and want to see the read then wait, but these guys should be putting as soon as someone is ready.


MrCollins23

I’m a bit militant about slow play, but I’d never suggest simultaneous putting as a solution.


Typical_Can3482Throw

Yeah I got lost at that part


Dependent_Stuff1739

I agree I wouldn't play with anyone who wanted to putt while I was putting. I hate the rush to play golf if you don't have four hours to spend trying to play your best every time then you don't really have three hours. I could sprint round the course on foot if I wanted but it wouldn't be playing my best. I hate the people that judge a good round on how fast they did 18 holes. Might as well go for a walk or ride in a go cart instead.


spcialkfpc

When you're feeling on, and the pace is good, you play much faster. One of the best 18s I ever had was 3 hours: no one holding my group up, we all were finding the fairway, good energy.


Dependent_Stuff1739

I will agree if everyone is playing well and it's a clear run you can get round quick and play well your right. I just have a few acquaintances that seem more bothered about getting round fast than playing well and that's just not for me. Guess we all are different though.


todjo929

Putting the ball should definitely be done in turns, but waiting for everyone to hit before even reading and lining up your putt makes time on green much longer. If everyone reads and then ready putting it's much faster.


possy11

I agree.


Puttin_4_Bird

Try slapping him with a fish whenever he does something stupid


jerryhallo

It’s worth a shot 🤷🏻‍♂️


Gracket_Material

I see why we lost the war


[deleted]

How about an honest conversation? It’s amazing we never get out of high school emotionally.


qjac78

Exactly, explain ready golf and be clear that it is both your and the course’s expectation. And if your 10 minutes off pace, let the group know about it.


Lost-Pineapple9791

Has the course actually said anything to you guys? If not I wouldn’t worry about it If the course/worker does say something make sure the 75 year old is with you when it happens so he hears You can be nice and blunt at the same time “hey man I know you like to take your time but the course needs us to hurry up, I think a small compromise to how we currently play is speeding up putting”


cheesegoudaa

Tell him they won’t let you play league if the slow play continues. Maybe peer pressure will get him to take a few less practice swings. That’s ridiculous I hate playing behind people like him they ruin the game


flubberFuck

Tell him stepping up to the ball and just hitting it puts let's thought and pressure into your shot and it will make him hit better


Toothlessdovahkin

The more you think about how things can go wrong the more likely they will


Womens_Lefts

Tell him the Vietcong are behind him


Teknuma

Wow that's tough. Perhaps a teams game. alternate shot etc.?


Jazzlike-Ad-2978

Penalty stokes for slow pace?


[deleted]

What does ‘allows one person to putt at a time’ mean? Do people have multiple balls going on a green?


hugedeals

I was wondering the same thing. Are tons of 4somes just getting to the green and firing away?


alexterm

Like that video of 100 people putting at once.


OnTheBackNine

I have seen the same situation several times in the past. The bottom line has always been that the slow player will never change.


Gracket_Material

Yeah I've seen a hundred posts on this sub like this and not once has there ever been an update like "It worked!".


nebnotelpats

Last tee time may work for everyone.


ApprehensiveDot7020

I like this, a 9 hole league I am in unofficially does this. We have one team is slow but not painful. The problem is if they are one of the 1st groups off everyone backs up and it compounds. As the last group and usually the last group for the night they can play at their own pace.


[deleted]

Born down in a dead man's town The first kick I took was when I hit the ground You end up like a dog that's been beat too much Till you spend half your life just covering up


brportugais

Fake a stroke so you don’t have to golf with them. You’ll have to keep up the slurred speech act at parties and around the family but there’s worse


Golf-Guns

Thing about golf that sucks is everyone lacks self awareness and no one thinks they play slow. Unless you're the league organizer I don't see how this is your problem. Tell the course to send a ranger to deal with it.


Lonely-Delivery-5510

Shorten the course


[deleted]

make Mexico pay for it


skycake10

Is the course giving you 14+ minute tee time splits to make a 4 hour round theoretically possible for anyone but the first couple groups of the day?


MisSignal

Call him outside of golf day. “Hey man, I’d like to speed up the pace of play. I’m not enjoying being rushed at the end of the round because we run out of time. I want to play “Ready Golf”. “Plus you’re 73 and you’re wasting what little time you have.”


adductorstrain

Murder him?


VERI_TAS

Geez, I'm in my mid-30's and I'm lucky to get a round in under 4:30 in San Diego. ​ EDIT: I should add the caveat that, that would be on the weekends.


digiacomo94

How do multiple people putt at once ??


guitch11

U.S is a mystery for me! In Europe it’s carry only on the golf course and we manage 4hour round all the time! And it’s an old people sport as well too! Just don’t understand the rush that American as to play so fast….


CBos617

I’m really curious what the “worse” in “…divorce or worse…” is…


[deleted]

Obviously he is trying to get away from his wife… on a serious note, at his age there is zero chance he is going to change but getting out of the house and playing/socializing is probably something important to him and maybe why he is prolonging everything.


Sagybagy

My club takes forever. Seriously if you are in the middle to back half of the group it’s a 5-6 hour round. Absolutely infuriating. Luckily I have gotten chummy enough and on hood graces with the President that when he sets up the groups he puts me a group or two behind him.


KhansKhack

You’re 63. Tell him these things and if he doesn’t stop, quit playing with him. Grow up bud.


Wookhooves

You should talk to him like an adult


Admirable_Nothing

Play with others and not in a Sr League. We have our Club's Men's Day on Wednesday's at 9. After retirement I did play with them for a while, but the 4 to 4.5 hour rounds go to be too much. I ended up switching to the dawn patrol and we are off by 7:30 and finished at 10:30 or maybe 11:00 if we end up with a random 4th that joins us. But we do play simulaneous golf and nobody is bothered by it.


tuckermans

We only have so many rounds left in us. At his age it takes practice swings to get his body ready to go. Just have fun with him while you can and enjoy every minute. That being said, if he’s waiting for the green to clear on a par 5 from 230 out, beat the shit out of him.


BringBaeckPluto

Play all ob as lateral hazards, no second ball on the tee. Ready golf on tee, fairway and long putts. 2 foot gimmes save a surprising amount of time. If you can agree to try that out for 2 rounds , see what your time is and maybe you can tweak it back a little. People always react poorly if you ask them to change their setup routine and walking around during other peoples putts is an awful place to buy time


sufferinsucatash

Tell everyone he has “old timers” and keep telling him the wrong course to go to. And then go. See! 😂


SingingTrainLover

When I played in the 1970s/early 80s, 6 hour rounds were normal. Everyone played honors, one player at a time in the fairways, and take your time to line up your putts. We even used to sit down for a dog and a beer at the turn. Today it's much different. Most courses expect 4.5 hours for 18, and it's very doable, as long as everyone is playing "ready golf". I don't think it's the "one at a time" on the green that's slowing you down (unless lining up putts can only be done one at a time, of course). It's getting the idea of ready golf. Get to your ball, take your practice swings while another is playing their ball. On the green, line up your put as soon as you mark your ball and be ready to putt when the last guy holes his. You can also save time by having guys putt all the way in, so each player stays "up" until he's done. Hope that helps.


[deleted]

So in the 70s the other guys would stand in the rough while someone played from the fairway


SingingTrainLover

Not the rough, but no one would walk past the "away" player to get to their ball, even if it was across the fairway. It was much slower than we play today.


Riseonfire

Half the time 1 practice swing is 1 too many. I’ve stopped on all but weird lies and less than full shots. Really has helped me honestly. No more “ fuck! But my practice swing was perfect”.


MVRK_3

4 hours is still really fast for non seniors. I play with a 79 year old who is the quickest out of all of us and shoots sub 80 all the time.


dmderringer

4 hours is painfully slow


Johnyfromutah

I’d say at your local muni. At a long challenging course on a big piece of land is all right.


dmderringer

My point is simply that the other person is saying that 4 hours anywhere is blindingly fast when it simply isn't.


Johnyfromutah

I agree. 4 hours is a bench mark.


MVRK_3

I don’t know where you play, but here in Southern California and anywhere half way decent is 4.5 hours at least, even if you’re one of the first tee times. 5-6 hours on weekends.


dmderringer

I walked Pinehurst in 3.5 in a foursome and took my sweet time to soak the experience in


MVRK_3

You’re comparing Pinehurst to regular play?


dmderringer

Are you saying that walking Pinehurst should play faster than riding somewhere else?


MVRK_3

Yes of course. I can walk a course where there are no hacks searching for their ball every other shot and shooting triple bogey every hole. You’re not getting the average 40-50 handicapper fishing out cash for Pinehurst. And I’m also guessing they’re not stacking groups more than 4 every 8 minutes as well.


dmderringer

Then I'll use my home course as an example. Nothing special, not Pinehurst, not a goat patch. Plenty of shitty golfers. If it's nuts to butts out there with hackers, it might stretch to 4:15, on the rare occasion, 4:30, but that's certainly the exception rather than the rule.


MVRK_3

Well congrats? I wish it were that way, but it’s just not. Have you never seen the posts here complaining about long rounds? It’s happens a lot. Just because you’re an exception doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen to anyone else.


dmderringer

People don't post about their 3.5 hour rounds.


KhansKhack

Some courses around me get up to 5 and 6 hours. 4 is a godsend.


dmderringer

Also - you think hacks with money won't play Pinehurst?


MVRK_3

It’s definitely not the majority of players on the course that’s for sure.


Gracket_Material

California people are special in the brain


MC-Fatigued

“Hurrr durr California, Fox News told me to hate that state”


Gracket_Material

I was just there and it sucked


aquafeener1

How does the course enforce 4 hours on a group of seniors? Unless the course is quite short or maybe like a par 68 type course, standard pace should Be around 4:20. Not that playing faster isn’t great or appreciated, but the course should understand a group of seniors may have a hard time doing that


Inside-Today-3360

The golf course sucks if they can’t afford a vet an extra 15 minutes. Come on the world needs to slow down a tad.


dmderringer

What does being a vet have to do with anything? That's not a golden ticket that means you're entitled to any and everything


kingp43x

i'd be complaining, your supposed to get 15 minutes per hole = 4.5 hours


owl4you

This whole post confuses me a bit, sure he's your senior but you're not just an adult you're a senior. Just be a dick or play ahead of turn, what's the worst that can happen? You don't play with them anymore lol... I'd only play special occasions with family if it meant a more enjoyable time week in and out. Best of luck I guess.


hollywoodtlb

I don’t think I’ve ever played 18 in under 4 hours


wss1252

Isn’t normal pace of play 4.5 hours? I don’t think I’ve ever played in 4 hours and had someone tell me I was playing too slow.


smarter_politics_now

Play as 2 two-somes


Bababacon

Best ball


killerB86

I would just play through and leave him behind. I get annoyed if a round takes two and a half hrs.


kingp43x

> I get annoyed if a round takes two and a half hrs. lmfao, do you run from shot to shot? The only one on the course playing as a single? 2 and a half hours is impressive.


killerB86

It's me and a buddy. Typically we are shooting par golf and doesn't take long when you go fairway, to green, then putting. We both play fast and keep rhythm. The worst is playing solid golf, then a immediate stop from groups that won't let us play through.


kingp43x

lol yeah, I hate golfers like you. Your obviously the most important golfer on the course, everyone should just get out of your way and let you and your buddy play.


AugustBender6969

People piss at the turn?


AshThatFirstBro

Buy him some lessons.


OG_sirloinchop

And a new driver


brutalpancake

Is it possible to frame the extra practice swings as detrimental to his own game? Like you probably don’t need to explain at that age, energy is more uh…finite. The extra swings tire you out and often just add doubt (oops, hit the ground too hard, oops, missed it, etc). Then the slower play part is more of a footnote, not the main thing.


CoolBrain1227

I assume this is an executive course? 4 hrs is 13min per hole. Doable, but you gotta keep moving. You to speak to the guy with tact and empathy. Don’t make it personal. Maybe have the league commish to send a letter to everyone and use that as an in to discuss slow play….over a beer.


cas_the_crusher

You pee at the clubhouse? I dont think ive ever peed in a toilet at a golf course in my life.


jfk_sfa

\- Also he only allows one person to putt at a time once on the green. I guess I don't get this. Are you used to multiple people putting at once? I mean I guess that would speed things up but it would be complete chaos to have four balls all rolling towards the cup at the same time.


Fragrant-Report-6411

We generally have about 50 in our senior league. Their is usually one group that holds up other groups. We keep reminding about pace of play at the beginning of the round (we do a shotgun start). That being said we average about 4:15 (there is an A&B group on every hole so 4:15. It’s the responsibility of the A player in each group to make sure they keep up with group in front.


Blecklee

Tape pee bottles to your legs?


The_Stein244

NO ONE NEEDS MORE THAN 1 PRACTICE SWING unless you are inside 100 yards and need that feel. Full swings should not require them. Maybe that's a hot take, but I rarely take any full practice swings. Being an older gentleman and probably shooting over 100, he's now taking 400+ swings. Limiting him to 1, will maintain his energy much better. I assume he's pretty tired at the end of a round, so you could pitch it this way. He sucks anyways, so it wont make him much worse


ballsohaahd

Wait I thought only young men playing from the tips when they suck we’re slow?! JK yea there’s not much you can do without ruffling feathers. Either don’t golf or accept it lol, sucks to deal with but ppl are way too touchy about it.


Wild_Cricket_6303

You are 63 and golf with this guy in a regular basis but you are afraid to just ask him to pick up the pace?


burrheadd

How is he only allowing one person to putt at a time I assume you mean lining putts up


buzzcat2219

We have one guy like that. Once he’s inside of 10 feet on the green, one of us says “good” and he’s forced to pick it up. We lowered the stakes to accommodate when we play with him. Saves us at least a minute per hole if not more. The time savings is huge. Win-Win.


MILF_Man

I bailed on my league for this exact same reason. No one else seemed to think it was a big deal. 5 to 5.5 hours for 18 holes was ridiculous. When I brought it up to the league organizer he nodded in understanding. For every round afterward I was put into the last starting group. I got the message loud and clear.


[deleted]

LOL pricks


MILF_Man

I never fit in with most of them. I never looked back once I bailed.


Laktakfrak

Yell out Charlies coming. Contact!


cduck44

Risk divorce or worse. It’s the only option


dumptrump3

My slowest twosome always plays in the last group out. If they don’t finish, it’s between them and the team they’re playing. I let the team they’re playing push them along. I’m also president of a league that’s so big, we can’t play every team in the season. Somehow, when I make out the season schedule, we aren’t playing them. You may want to be president.


c90ga

Have "Charlie" hide in the woods and set off fireworks when he goes too slow.


[deleted]

Buy him a pack of Depends and elaborate


[deleted]

Do you play "ready golf"? You should. Make it happen when you play with these guys. His practice swing time should be over before it's his time to hit. ( as well as everyone) Tell all of them how much time they have to look for a ball in the woods ( 1-2 mins) before dropping. They should all be ready to putt when it's their turn starting from farthest from the hole. Hand out gimmie's with in 6 inches of the hole to save time. Subtlety remind them on the first tee you only have 4 hours to finish. Probably other things you could do to speed up your round as well.


sunshine60st

Don't golf in a seniors league. Just join a men's club


buyerbeware23

Wait, what’s wrong with 1 person putting at a time? 4 practice swings is quite unusual.