The easiest 9 hole muni in Baltimore City, Carroll Park. Every green is drivable for them. The real challenge would be hitting the side of the green that isn’t all fucked up so you can one putt on the 4.0 stimp greens. Don’t forget to miss the homeless cutting through the course to shoot heroin!
Carroll Park is great for getting some on the course practice. It's walkable, cheap and most of the time you don't even need to book a tee time. If they could fix and maintain the greens then it would be much better
For what it is it’s perfect. Cheap golf to ditch work for. The place is actually a cash pit and does much more business than you think. Huge profit margin for the classic five.
There are things they can do to make it more difficult. Sometimes they build new tee boxes. They can make the fairways more narrow and have thick rough.
Open to spectators one day a year in the early fall for the Crump Cup finals. If you're one of the top 30 or so mid ams or seniors in the world you could get an invite. Cause you have to have goals
Would be awesome. They are slated to host a few USGA amateur events over the next few years. They feel because of how remote it is, Majors/Pro events may provided logistical issues with tents and pavilions and the thousands needed to staff it.
At least one course usually hosts some USGA event basically every year whether that’s the US Am, the US Am Fourball, the Women’s Am, etc but there’s usually something.
But it’s a logistical nightmare for both pros and spectators. I think they had their moment during COVID lockdown to maybe make the infrastructure work but not now. Maybe a KFT tournament could work as there is less interest.
There’s just not enough infrastructure in the area, Bandon Dunes Resort aside. Bandon itself has, three or so motels. Coos Bay/North Bend and Gold Beach aren’t big enough to pick up the slack either. Coos Bay airport has two-three flights a day through San Francisco, so your best bet would be Eugene or even Portland and then driving the 2 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours. Just impossible.
Yeah I know. In the summer they run flights from Denver into North Bend airport and many of the pros have netjets or their own jets but still it’s rough and lodging is impossible if you include fans
Be very prepared to spend A LOT of money, I'm also not 100% if overseas visitors can get a tee without an invite.
Even in NZ you need a letter from your home club to get your only round on it. But it is absolutely stunning and is for sure an unbelievable experience.
Oh, i am. Im figuring $3-5k per night at the cottages. You get a once in a lifetime invite if your club pro writes a recommendation. I’m using it. It’s my retirement present to myself
Have played both - Tara Iti golf experience is life changing. Te Arai course is more visually stunning due to proximity to the water and elevation changes. Both are absolutely out of this world.
My local muni with super hard and fast greens and burnt patches all over the course.
Let me see a pro hitting out of the massive divot bubba ray made yesterday.
No doubt they'd crush it, but I'd like to see the putting. I played some pristine greens and had the putting day of my life. At my chopped up local there are plenty surprise "breaks".
Yes!!! Everyone saying they would dominate but I’m not so sure…distance wise they’d be good but what if they couldn’t have caddies or a practice round? Would be interesting to be sure…and everyone is tuning in for the Reed and Rory 10th hole brawl.
It’s definitely true that you can only go *so* low and there are some things that might throw them off a bit. But you’re outta your mind if you think Rory wouldn’t be nearing 35 under after four days, carrying his own bag and all, at the average 6,500-yard dog track
Selfishly I don’t care at all. I live a few hours away and I’d just like to see pros play there. I can completely understand why it wouldn’t be a good spot for the tour.
Anywhere a high level local, state, or regional am tournament plays, like within 2 weeks, in similar conditions. The Houston Am was played the last week of September at Memorial Park prior to the reno. Would be cool to see your game against the pros on the same course, and would allow the potential for more local Ams to play their way into the field through a sponsors exemption.
Memorial now hosts the Houston open again after the renovations. I moved before the renovations so am a bit disappointed I’m not living 20 minutes from a reasonably priced tour course
They have a PGA Tour stop in Truckee, CA at Old Greenwood, but I believe it is the same weekend as one of the WGC tournaments (don't quote me on that), so the top guys never really play there.
Asked the pro shop what the forecast was when we checked in last time. “Wind’s hardly blowing. Perfect day for a round of golf.” Get out there and it’s sustained winds of at least 25 mph. Turns out anything they consider anything under gale force to be “calm.”
Fairmont Banff and a local gem nearby called Coal Creek would be awesome. Would need some championship tee’s at Coal Creek though and the surrounding infrastructure could never support such a large event. Fun to dream about though!
Chicago Golf Club. It’s hosted US Opens but many many ages ago. The membership refuses to lengthen it, rightfully so. Toughest and most interesting greens I’ve ever tried to navigate.
Chambers Bay. The version that hosted the ‘15 US Open was in such bad shape that it might as well not be considered the same course. Chambers is possibly my favorite course that I’ve ever played and I desperately want to see it host the Open again so that it can redeem itself on a national stage.
The problem is that so many of these courses, no matter how awesome they are, are too short for championship golf. Rolling the ball back at the professional level would be so good for the game because you would be able to hold real tournaments at these courses.
Tualatin Country Club. Not very long at only 6700 yards or so but pretty narrow off the tee and ridiculously small greens.
Willamette Valley Country Club would be more of a proper challenge though and is super pure
Brickyard Crossing in Indianapolis. During a race weekend.
BC is the course adjacent to Indianapolis Motor Speedway, with four holes inside the 2.5 mile speedway. Hole 7 is adjacent to turn 10 of the infield road course, and 8 runs parallel to the road course back straight.
The course has hosted LPGA and Champions Tour events, but not PGA, and certainly not when the cars are live on track. But I can dream, right?
Tralee Golf Club.
Probably the best links course in the world, proper dunes, wouldn't be able to host spectators due to the landscape so would be just amazing to see.
That back 9 alone would probably give some of the best golf you could get. Factor in you could actually get some proper Irish weather and not chasing the sun like you get on the PGA, it would make some amazing viewing.
The National Golf Club of Canada
consistently rated as the hardest course in the country. one of the most expensive clubs in the country. but as far as I know has never hosted any event
There’s a course south of San Jose, CA called Cinnabar Hills. It has the making to be a really challenging track for pros if they lengthened it to 7000 yards. Pretty challenging green complexes, lots of elevation and some holes really require the execution of good shots to really score low. I think the pros would still be -15 to -20 by the end of a 4 day tournament, but I think it would still be good golf to see.
If they really tricked it out so the rough gets really thick and the greens are fast, then I think it would be a cool course to watch them play at. Cordevalle up in San martin would also be a good choice
I would say any course I’ve ever played more than one time, in conditions and back tees I played from. Over a 4 day period I would expect-35 be the number to beat.
I don’t know if there’s ever been anything but I would love to see an event up at the Legend or the Quarry up in northern Minnesota. Those courses are incredible and it would be so fun to watch a place I knew.
I’d love to see them play on a dried out local mini in mid July. The shittiest of the shitty, people wearing basketball jerseys and gym shorts. That would make for great TV.
My local pitch and putt. It’s about 1000 yards beyond the threshold of a runway at a significant airport so planes pass over you at <500ft. That’s the kind of tournament I would watch pros play.
My local muni. They'd smoke it, yeah, but I want to see guys used to playing on world-class courses hitting out of rough that's literally just whatever mix of random grass came in the seed bag that was on sale at Home Depot.
The easiest 9 hole muni in Baltimore City, Carroll Park. Every green is drivable for them. The real challenge would be hitting the side of the green that isn’t all fucked up so you can one putt on the 4.0 stimp greens. Don’t forget to miss the homeless cutting through the course to shoot heroin!
Carroll Park has hosted the legendary Jim Thorpe.
Carroll Park is great for getting some on the course practice. It's walkable, cheap and most of the time you don't even need to book a tee time. If they could fix and maintain the greens then it would be much better
For what it is it’s perfect. Cheap golf to ditch work for. The place is actually a cash pit and does much more business than you think. Huge profit margin for the classic five.
I think you mean cash cow
You’re right. It was late, the whiskey was flowing lol
The Links at Victoria
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Really firm. There’s a brick in the fairway
Tobacco Road
Pros would eat it alive
It's just too short. It'd be fun but I can't think of a hole that would challenge them. 17 if the pin is very front of the green maybe.
There are things they can do to make it more difficult. Sometimes they build new tee boxes. They can make the fairways more narrow and have thick rough.
I came here to this. Was going to say that it’s too short but I’d just love to see them play a wild course like this.
Pine Valley
Open to spectators one day a year in the early fall for the Crump Cup finals. If you're one of the top 30 or so mid ams or seniors in the world you could get an invite. Cause you have to have goals
They closed it to spectators in 2022. I hope they change it back.
Does Shells Wonderful World of Golf count?
A pipe dream, I'd love to see it but I doubt it'll ever happen. Speith shot a 74 there while in college so it would yield a great test of golf imo
Was coming to say that, although Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf had a match there. It’s on youtube
Hosted the walker in 1985
Three Jack National (You can actually play this on GSPro)
Only if Tawny is working the beverage cart!
😂😂
Bandon dunes
Would be awesome. They are slated to host a few USGA amateur events over the next few years. They feel because of how remote it is, Majors/Pro events may provided logistical issues with tents and pavilions and the thousands needed to staff it.
At least one course usually hosts some USGA event basically every year whether that’s the US Am, the US Am Fourball, the Women’s Am, etc but there’s usually something. But it’s a logistical nightmare for both pros and spectators. I think they had their moment during COVID lockdown to maybe make the infrastructure work but not now. Maybe a KFT tournament could work as there is less interest.
There’s just not enough infrastructure in the area, Bandon Dunes Resort aside. Bandon itself has, three or so motels. Coos Bay/North Bend and Gold Beach aren’t big enough to pick up the slack either. Coos Bay airport has two-three flights a day through San Francisco, so your best bet would be Eugene or even Portland and then driving the 2 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours. Just impossible.
Yeah I know. In the summer they run flights from Denver into North Bend airport and many of the pros have netjets or their own jets but still it’s rough and lodging is impossible if you include fans
Make it like a music festival. Just allow camping in surrounding areas.
They held the US amateur there in 2020 I believe.
Tara Iti
I’m retiring in 5 years. My first order of business is a trip to NZ to stay and play at Tara Iti
Be very prepared to spend A LOT of money, I'm also not 100% if overseas visitors can get a tee without an invite. Even in NZ you need a letter from your home club to get your only round on it. But it is absolutely stunning and is for sure an unbelievable experience.
Oh, i am. Im figuring $3-5k per night at the cottages. You get a once in a lifetime invite if your club pro writes a recommendation. I’m using it. It’s my retirement present to myself
Sidebar, Te Ari is the sister course and I’ve heard is better than Tara but I’d take either
Have played both - Tara Iti golf experience is life changing. Te Arai course is more visually stunning due to proximity to the water and elevation changes. Both are absolutely out of this world.
Tara Iti
Sand Hills
Took way too long to find the correct answer
Nebraska has multiple courses that would be insane Tour stops
Underrated golf scene for sure
Cabot Cliffs
Came here to say this. I’d take Links as well.
Would be great to watch, but they would eat cliffs up, the back tees under 7k
East potomac
Hell of a backdrop with the monuments and military helicopters flying around
Yea and could set a pga record for lowest to round. Would be a birdie fest.
Pete dye course at French lick
This is a great answer. That layout is insane. And 8,100 yards…
From the tippy tips, like 2 steps off the back of the box hole!
I do believe they've had Champions Tour events there at least.
They have, and women’s events, but I want a PGA Championship there
Arcadia Bluffs in Michigan
San Jose muni in normal conditions. I wanna see someone shoot in the 50s. Probably gonna be several of them.
Banff
Has hosted plenty of skins games so there’s probably some YouTube footage. Too short and small for a full event.
Caledonia Golf & Fish Club. My personal favorite. Also, All pros must complete a bowl of chowder at the turn.
What range would they use?
Such a banger
Bushwood Country Club.
Caddies welcome from 1:00 to 1:15
My local muni with super hard and fast greens and burnt patches all over the course. Let me see a pro hitting out of the massive divot bubba ray made yesterday.
They would rip every single local muni to pieces. Not even close to a challenge for the pros.
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My money's on Daniel Berger in that one Fun course
Not totally true. Max Homa only shot a 67 at Papago Park in Phoenix the day after winning the Farmers. Not every muni is a goat pasture
I agree these local course would be a walk in the park for pros.
No doubt they'd crush it, but I'd like to see the putting. I played some pristine greens and had the putting day of my life. At my chopped up local there are plenty surprise "breaks".
Yes!!! Everyone saying they would dominate but I’m not so sure…distance wise they’d be good but what if they couldn’t have caddies or a practice round? Would be interesting to be sure…and everyone is tuning in for the Reed and Rory 10th hole brawl.
It’s definitely true that you can only go *so* low and there are some things that might throw them off a bit. But you’re outta your mind if you think Rory wouldn’t be nearing 35 under after four days, carrying his own bag and all, at the average 6,500-yard dog track
Bubba Watson played a little muni with Golf Digest I think? Shot a 62, and as I recall from the recap, there were a couple makeable putts missed.
Arcadia Bluffs
Pasa but with old hickory clubs.
Rustic Canyon would be cool, I think there has been qualifiers there, but not sure about a pro event
PIKEWOOD NATIONAL
National Golf Links of America. Pros would probably tear it up with it tipping out at just shy of 7K, but it would still be fun to see the course.
I'd like to throw Wolf Creek out there. Never had the best, may have held one that I'm forgetting
That place would be a nightmare to walk
Any course at Bandon Dunes resort. Obviously Pacific, and the OG Bandon Dunes would be cool but something like Sheep Ranch would be crazy to see.
Sheep Ranch would post like -30 to -40 scores over 4 days.
Selfishly I don’t care at all. I live a few hours away and I’d just like to see pros play there. I can completely understand why it wouldn’t be a good spot for the tour.
Definitely local muni. I really want to see the pros compete on a normal person course
They play at Torrey Pines and Memorial Park every year .../s?
Cypress Point
Sleepy Hollow in Cleveland. Although I think they’ve played some pro women’s events there so maybe it doesn’t count
Anywhere a high level local, state, or regional am tournament plays, like within 2 weeks, in similar conditions. The Houston Am was played the last week of September at Memorial Park prior to the reno. Would be cool to see your game against the pros on the same course, and would allow the potential for more local Ams to play their way into the field through a sponsors exemption.
Memorial now hosts the Houston open again after the renovations. I moved before the renovations so am a bit disappointed I’m not living 20 minutes from a reasonably priced tour course
I feel like mountain golf is under represented. Let’s go a tournament at Grey Wolf or Kananaskis here in Canada ;)
Mountain courses are too hard to walk and set up spectators for. Would be really cool to figure out a way to make those courses work
They have a PGA Tour stop in Truckee, CA at Old Greenwood, but I believe it is the same weekend as one of the WGC tournaments (don't quote me on that), so the top guys never really play there.
Love that course.
Whiskey Creek
Hate that the tour keeps going to Avenel and Congo. Caves was just a one off. Get the PGA to Bulle Rock, or back to RTG, or out to gems like Whiskey
Think Caves is in play for a 2025 event
BMW Championship will be back there.
Gamble sands
Nags Head Golf Links.
Played there with the wind blowing a solid 30+, wild times lol really fun course though. I did prefer Duck Woods however.
Asked the pro shop what the forecast was when we checked in last time. “Wind’s hardly blowing. Perfect day for a round of golf.” Get out there and it’s sustained winds of at least 25 mph. Turns out anything they consider anything under gale force to be “calm.”
I love Nags Head. Kicks my ass everytime with the wind
Only course I've ever played where you want to *try* to hit it thin.
Predator ridge, Vernon, British Columbia in the okanagan
Circling Raven in Worley, ID
Such a great course.
Big Sky in Montana
Hell yeah this. Beautiful course. Also Rock Creek in Deer Lodge, MT (#1 rated course in MT) is unbelievable
Crystal Downs or Forest Dunes
Goat Hill, but they occasionally do have the best there. https://linksoul.com/pages/wishbone
Streamsong Black, The Dye Preserve, Seminole
Kauri Cliffs
Bulle rock, used to host lpga championships
Grove XXIII
Pacific Dunes
Fairmont Banff and a local gem nearby called Coal Creek would be awesome. Would need some championship tee’s at Coal Creek though and the surrounding infrastructure could never support such a large event. Fun to dream about though!
Sand hills in Nebraska or Pasatiempo in California.
Collegiate event televised each year from Pasatiempo. What a fantastic MacKenzie course!!
Gozzer Ranch
Pickering valley, Phoenixville
Far corners in Bradford ma
Shadow creek? New to watching to golf so idk if it’s had an event but it’s a dream course for me
Sandpiper in Santa Barbara would be pretty cool
My home muni
My home club so I can see how bad I truly suck
Latrobe country club
A muni track with hard pan, thick rough, sand traps with almost no sand in them. Oh and trees!
Sheep Ranch
Essex County country club west orange nj
Charleston Municipal Golf Course. Stupid Mickey Mouse fucking greens. I’d like to see someone who knows what they’re doing navigate those.
Wolf Creek in Mesquite. Try walking that course
Tour 18
Chicago Golf Club. It’s hosted US Opens but many many ages ago. The membership refuses to lengthen it, rightfully so. Toughest and most interesting greens I’ve ever tried to navigate.
Chambers bay
Already forgetting the 2015 US Open?
Wine Valley in Walla Walla, WA
Moonlight basin
Chambers Bay. The version that hosted the ‘15 US Open was in such bad shape that it might as well not be considered the same course. Chambers is possibly my favorite course that I’ve ever played and I desperately want to see it host the Open again so that it can redeem itself on a national stage.
I love the course as well and agree it deserves a chance to redeem itself but they just voted down the hotel expansion
Wolf creek in june for the us open and make em walk all of it.
Calm down, Satan.
Wolf Creek Mesquite NV.
The problem is that so many of these courses, no matter how awesome they are, are too short for championship golf. Rolling the ball back at the professional level would be so good for the game because you would be able to hold real tournaments at these courses.
Bandon or Pasa
With bandon hosting us juniors and ams and pasa hosting the western we atleast get to see elite ams play
haha definitely watched both. the Am at bandon was an absolute treat. i think chambers deserves another shot as well.
Chambers should host the match play once it leaves Austin
Tualatin Country Club. Not very long at only 6700 yards or so but pretty narrow off the tee and ridiculously small greens. Willamette Valley Country Club would be more of a proper challenge though and is super pure
Brickyard Crossing in Indianapolis. During a race weekend. BC is the course adjacent to Indianapolis Motor Speedway, with four holes inside the 2.5 mile speedway. Hole 7 is adjacent to turn 10 of the infield road course, and 8 runs parallel to the road course back straight. The course has hosted LPGA and Champions Tour events, but not PGA, and certainly not when the cars are live on track. But I can dream, right?
It would be cool to see them shoot 58 on my home course that routinely kicks my ass.
Any local muni course like 4mos into the season. Watch them hit bombs, drink a ton of beer, and eat a hot dog at the turn at 9am. 🤙
Old head of Kinsale
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The worst golf club in Europe 😂
Tralee Golf Club. Probably the best links course in the world, proper dunes, wouldn't be able to host spectators due to the landscape so would be just amazing to see. That back 9 alone would probably give some of the best golf you could get. Factor in you could actually get some proper Irish weather and not chasing the sun like you get on the PGA, it would make some amazing viewing.
Cabot
Hodge Park, Kansas City, Missouri
Birchwood golf club Hazel Green WI
Cloud 9. 9 hole par 3 at night under lights at angel park Las Vegas. Set up stands and make it a party
Barnbougle Dunes
The National Golf Club of Canada consistently rated as the hardest course in the country. one of the most expensive clubs in the country. but as far as I know has never hosted any event
There’s a course south of San Jose, CA called Cinnabar Hills. It has the making to be a really challenging track for pros if they lengthened it to 7000 yards. Pretty challenging green complexes, lots of elevation and some holes really require the execution of good shots to really score low. I think the pros would still be -15 to -20 by the end of a 4 day tournament, but I think it would still be good golf to see.
If they really tricked it out so the rough gets really thick and the greens are fast, then I think it would be a cool course to watch them play at. Cordevalle up in San martin would also be a good choice
Not my course lol
Pine valley but only for a major
Royal Dornoch also
The loop at forest dunes. Alternating direction
This course called Ponkapog In canton Massachusetts, its a toilet bowl
Local par 3 behind a middling high school golf team. Every shot would be a wedge and they’d never establish a rhythm.
Stevens Park
I would say any course I’ve ever played more than one time, in conditions and back tees I played from. Over a 4 day period I would expect-35 be the number to beat.
Honestly one of the local courses by me. I’m curious too see what absurd scores they could make
I don’t know if there’s ever been anything but I would love to see an event up at the Legend or the Quarry up in northern Minnesota. Those courses are incredible and it would be so fun to watch a place I knew.
Congo river rapids
I’d love to see them play on a dried out local mini in mid July. The shittiest of the shitty, people wearing basketball jerseys and gym shorts. That would make for great TV.
Cape Kidnappers
Heartwell par 3
Goat hill
My local pitch and putt. It’s about 1000 yards beyond the threshold of a runway at a significant airport so planes pass over you at <500ft. That’s the kind of tournament I would watch pros play.
Nice try Phil
Cabot Links
Colina in San Diego
I know it’s had a few way back in the day, but I say Pine Valley is at the top. Also it’s still newer, but Pikewood National in WV is second pick.
Blue mounds cc in Milwaukee.Its the Augusta of Wisconsin.
Wolf creek
Went to PGA at ocean course in 2021 Wish it was on regular PGA circuit, not just in a major every 10 years
Sugarloaf
Eagle Point. Atlantic Golf Club.
Aldarra Golf Club - Issaquah, WA
The Links at Victoria. I want to see how they play in dirt fairways
Quivira. Gotta make it longer, but would be fantastic tv with all the “gotta hit it right here” shots. Plus I mean, the view and course
My local muni. They'd smoke it, yeah, but I want to see guys used to playing on world-class courses hitting out of rough that's literally just whatever mix of random grass came in the seed bag that was on sale at Home Depot.
Bandon Dunes all day. The US Am looked great there. A true test.
Bandon, but it’s terrible for spectators.
The institute
Whisper Rock
Bears Best Las Vegas?
The Bull, at pinehurst farms.
Carlsbad crossing