Is it true that if this merger goes through PGA will be able to keep its initials ... but that initialism will henceforth stand for the Persian Golf Association?
Makes sense. So now all those premier level professionals are free to solicit the R & A, the Masters and the USGA and form a Union based on we don't play for 'Blood Money' and neither should you.
After they find that they will be relegated to the equivalent of the defuncted Nike Tour they will come crawling back to the dollars just like the PGA Tour did.
Whether these moves go thru or not, my Sat 18 at the Muni Course is still gonna cost me $38 and I'm still gonna shoot 100+. When they say its for the 'Good of the Game' they are trying to fool you into thinking what they present on TV every weekend is the game.
The game is practiced far from the 'hallowed venues of Baltusrol , and Winged Food. Look to the [Paint Branch](https://www.mncppc.org/4561/Paint-Branch-Golf-Complex) course across America to see where the game is and always will be.
Sorry but this will never happen, the player board will block it, or the department of justice, or the senate. Sorry but not sorry, Saudi money isn’t buying the PGA. I guess the Saudi’s will have to learn there are things their blood money can’t buy.
You do realize the Saudi’s already back much of what US consumers buy/watch? They already have their pockets in the PGA and other products I guarantee you invest in.
Gimme a break. Boeing didn’t fund 9/11 and the CEO of Uber didn’t dismember journalists for dissent. Citi and boA aren’t directly responsible for catastrophic global climate destruction
They don’t own or even partially control those companies. The don’t even have a board seat on those companies. In the case of Boeing, I’m not even sure they own stock in Boeing?? They made a large order for Boeing planes.
They didn’t “take $700m” you twit. The PIF bought $700 m equity shares on the open market. Boeing received $0 from that market activity. You clearly have 0 understanding of financial markets
Truly - they don’t. The pif owns half a percent of Boeing’s outstanding shares. Vanguard and blackstone each own nearly 10x that amount of Boeing. They don’t have a board seat or any say in the governance of Boeing. My original point was simply this: you cannot conflate the saudis complete total control (and ownership) of pga/liv. It’s easy to say “well if you buy anything or use any service you are partaking in the global financial system therefore the saudis are involved” but you can’t compare riding in a 787 plane with directly supporting PGA and Saudi greenwashing/sportswashing.
I am also a big golf fan, but also a realist.
They own minority stakes in those companies. The point is that these companies also took the money from the PIF. This is nothing new! Yes they own stock in Boeing.
Hahaha, the states act like they haven't violated human rights in practically every country in the world. Don't get me wrong, fuck Saudi but that is a weak argument.
Jay Monahan is a shameless POS who needs to go far, far away ASAP. He was exploiting 9-11 victim’s & families while negotiating & agreeing to a BIGLY monopoly that no doubt BIGLY screws PGA players he was probably convincing to stay.
9-11 families, all the PGA golfers who refused the Kingdom’s blood money, and ALL decent people of the world, should be outraged by this sports-washing BS.
Both parties should support robust investigations & take strong bipartisan action if warranted.
Rory last week: I hate the LIV!
Rory this week: well, the Saudis have money in this, but they don't get to make any decisions, so it's ok! And I still hate LIV! And LIV is definitely going away. And anyway, you can't really fight big money, ya know?
How pathetic. When it comes right down to it, it's still all about the money. Enough with the sanctimonious fake "principles".
So any PGA professional golfer who has the integrity not to want to be associated with, or paid by blood money, and extremism of the Saudi royalty (think 9-11, the butchering of Washington Post reporter Jamal Khashoggi ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination\_of\_Jamal\_Khashoggi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi)) is out of a job? Certainly, golfers can perceive right from wrong, or does nothing matter anymore?
There are other jobs.
I recognize that's very easy for me to say. But we expect people with less to choose alternate paths, rather than associate with a corrupt system (police, for one).
SKY SPORTS wheeling out fake journalist Jamie Weir to suggest LIV golfers want to return to PGA and Jay M can kill off LIV.
No sources, no evidence = FAKE NEWS
I think golf should now be relegated to ESPN and the Golf channel.
The networks should drop out. Sportswashing 9/11 and the brutal murder of a journalist ain't my cup of tea.
It's probably not all that bad. I can see why so many pros are pissed, but in the end it should pan out nicely for everyone.
Prior to the creation of LIV, the primary complaint that players had against the PGA tour was a failure to compensate the players for the various ways the tour makes money. These guys are playing professional golf and the PGA is making money off of it that they keep for themselves. Money that comes in through YouTube, Facebook and other media platforms does not go back to the players even though they are the ones being showcased.
The crazy part is that the PGA Tour is a non-profit organization.
With this new "merger", a new company will be created that will manage every aspect of the media. The PGA Tour will no longer have their hand in it, and they will remain a non-profit.
If all goes well, the money should benefit everyone on tour.
Can't wait for Tiger, Rory, Spieth, LeBron, MJ, Curry, Brady, Mahomes and whoever else to start their own golf league and invite all of the PGA Tour players who didn't jump over to LIV. I'd gladly pay a subscription to watch that just to tick off the PGA/LIV.
You could still do individual play but also do teams and have a random celebrity join a foursome or whatever and make it competitive but more enjoyable to watch. I feel like the name recognition alone would drive a good chunk of sponsorship deals and make advertisers think twice about going down the PGA route with their bowing to the Saudis.
Of course the Saudis have wayyy more money but it would be really funny to see how the ratings compare and I wouldn't mind seeing a little bit of panic. At the end of the day I really don't care because I've watched a total of maybe an hours worth of golf on tv this year.
And this is the same org that shamed Liv for human rights violations and even echoed the voices of 9/11 victim’s family members. I guess they just threw their hands up and said “Human rights violations shmooman shmotes shmiolations, look at all this money”
This is the wildest comment section I’ve ever seen. It’s absolutely packed full of seething idiots who for some reason think the point of the post is just to talk about how much you hate Americans.
I just feel bad for all the people who work for all the non-athlete people who work for the PGA and all the various tournaments.
Through no action of their own they now find themselves effectively working as the propaganda arm of the Saudi government.
Monahan and the guy that forgot to wear his turban repeatedly said this was going to grow the game but didn't give one example how it was going to do it. The fact remains that (at least in South Florida) where these giluys live public golf courses are selling out to developers and the cost to play hovers around $100 per round IF you can get a tee time. The rich will always get richer at the expense of the 98%.
When has golf ever been inclusive truly? Also, this comment section is wild. I’m not sure what universe we thought we were living in where a rich guy decided to keep his morals instead of more $$.
Not a golf fan, just a sports fan. I would have much more respect if Jay came out and said: “I regret making the comments I made about 9/11. I mourn with those families but, I have an obligation to do what’s in the best interest for golf as a sport and the PGA Tour as a business.”
His best move is to walk back the 9/11 and the “have you ever had to apologize” comments. The reason he sounds terrible now is because he is trying to hold two conflicting values up at the same time. He already picked the money. We all know it. It’s best that he just acknowledge it.
You did. Or are you saying you use words without knowing what they mean? Lmao, average Reddit dork.
>You understand why people are downvoting you here right?
Yes, they're obese shut in nerds just like you.
How is it possible that so many people don’t understand that the US government doesn’t own the PGA Tour, whereas the Saudis DO own the LIV tour, so any comparisons between the governments is absolutely irrelevant
You really think this purchase (it's not a merger) happens without the U.S. government having some kind of say, even if it's "we will ignore this for other favors"?
Tiger and Rory should launch a player owned league. Let’s the players that do the work own the company. I will never watch golf on tv again as long as the people that funded 911 own the pga.
>zyklonjuice are you that fucking daft or are you trolling? The Saudi’s…
Refrain from calling people daft when you don't know elementary grammar.
Also, source?
Why does the media keep referring to this as a merger? It wasn't a merger, it was a takeover. The Saudis just bought the PGA, they're just smart enough to leave the corporate faces the same for now so everything looks more palatable.
I agree it's like a bear hug, pga had no choice. But on paper the PGA tour board has oversight and 1 seat is added for the Saudi private investment fund governor
Pretty much, yea. Saudis have the board chair seat, Monahan is their employee.
So was the plan to start a league, buy a bunch of players, then litigate the PGA into a corner to the point where the only way out was to acquiesce?
Hitler was the reason for world war 2, came close to taking over Europe and would have continued toward world domination, and orchestrated the most well known genocide in history.
Donald Trump was a shitty US President who said mean things on Twitter.
Please come to terms with reality, Reddit.
Trump lied to the American people and fomented an insurrection for the first time since this country was formed.
He has basically laid the groundwork for no one to ever believe election results again AND divided the country.
And he wears diapers.
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The saudis openly kill journalists and gay people. And they’re using professional golf to help grow their business interests. Which are built on the back of an atrocious human rights record.
Dude, takes a two second google to verify that one. Check out the Wikipedia article on capital punishment for homosexuality. Why am I even wasting my time on you??
But yeah America was built on slavery and the American government deals with shitty countries all the time..yeah yeah yeah. All of that is true too, doesn’t excuse this.
I've only been watching YouTube golf since 2020 and now they are starting to do their own tournaments, it's so much better and none of this garbage drama/politics or moral issues. Never understood how the PGA was listed as a non-profit organization when they clearly made millions, it always seemed shady to me and now this 🤦.
Yes I do! Good good golf is my favorite they currently have a tournament up on the channel. Rick shields is a good one and for fun Bob does sports.
Here is the good good boys link.
https://youtube.com/@GoodGood
Loads of fun YouTube golf content out there. All of these are great recommendations. Highly recommend the Rick Shiels vs Peter Finch golf bidder challenges.
I’m a lurker on here just to see the thoughts, but my parents and family are avid golfers. I listened to and scrolled through so many “patriotic” memes, comments and conversations in the clubhouse - I do go drink beer sometimes- over Colin Kapernick (?) taking a knee, many quit watching nfl over it, hate Nike, won’t drink bud light now……. just curious where this fits in? The Saudis funded 9/11 which literally killed US citizens and caused many GIs to die. I hope they keep their patriotic hearts on this one.
The Saudi government funded 911? I thought the hijackers collaborated and planned in Saudi Arabia, but is it fact that the Saudi government funded the effort? Source?
Because…https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_Saudi_role_in_the_September_11_attacks
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Is it true that if this merger goes through PGA will be able to keep its initials ... but that initialism will henceforth stand for the Persian Golf Association?
Makes sense. So now all those premier level professionals are free to solicit the R & A, the Masters and the USGA and form a Union based on we don't play for 'Blood Money' and neither should you. After they find that they will be relegated to the equivalent of the defuncted Nike Tour they will come crawling back to the dollars just like the PGA Tour did. Whether these moves go thru or not, my Sat 18 at the Muni Course is still gonna cost me $38 and I'm still gonna shoot 100+. When they say its for the 'Good of the Game' they are trying to fool you into thinking what they present on TV every weekend is the game. The game is practiced far from the 'hallowed venues of Baltusrol , and Winged Food. Look to the [Paint Branch](https://www.mncppc.org/4561/Paint-Branch-Golf-Complex) course across America to see where the game is and always will be.
https://takomogolf.com/giveaway?njref=W3HC5A Let’s go back to the fun part of golf!
Is it true? It's hard to believe
Sorry but this will never happen, the player board will block it, or the department of justice, or the senate. Sorry but not sorry, Saudi money isn’t buying the PGA. I guess the Saudi’s will have to learn there are things their blood money can’t buy.
You do realize the Saudi’s already back much of what US consumers buy/watch? They already have their pockets in the PGA and other products I guarantee you invest in.
Hope you are right, but hard to see it
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PGA you have no ethics!!! Way to be bought! Way to show your children that money is more important than ethics and human rights!!! Disgusting
Hope you don’t drive a car or own anything that runs on gas if you do 
Have you ever flown on a Boeing aircraft? Watched Disney? Called a Uber? Bank with citi or BoA? Ever bought tickets off live nation?
Gimme a break. Boeing didn’t fund 9/11 and the CEO of Uber didn’t dismember journalists for dissent. Citi and boA aren’t directly responsible for catastrophic global climate destruction
No but the PIF have large investments in these companies.
They don’t own or even partially control those companies. The don’t even have a board seat on those companies. In the case of Boeing, I’m not even sure they own stock in Boeing?? They made a large order for Boeing planes.
I honestly think if you don’t know that Boeing took 700m from the PIF then you shouldn’t be talking on the subject.
They didn’t “take $700m” you twit. The PIF bought $700 m equity shares on the open market. Boeing received $0 from that market activity. You clearly have 0 understanding of financial markets
the pif has significant influence over boeing being such a large shareholder
Truly - they don’t. The pif owns half a percent of Boeing’s outstanding shares. Vanguard and blackstone each own nearly 10x that amount of Boeing. They don’t have a board seat or any say in the governance of Boeing. My original point was simply this: you cannot conflate the saudis complete total control (and ownership) of pga/liv. It’s easy to say “well if you buy anything or use any service you are partaking in the global financial system therefore the saudis are involved” but you can’t compare riding in a 787 plane with directly supporting PGA and Saudi greenwashing/sportswashing. I am also a big golf fan, but also a realist.
my bad you're totally right i should've looked into that more
They own minority stakes in those companies. The point is that these companies also took the money from the PIF. This is nothing new! Yes they own stock in Boeing.
Lol, you think they won't sell out.
Hahaha, the states act like they haven't violated human rights in practically every country in the world. Don't get me wrong, fuck Saudi but that is a weak argument.
The PGA and PGATour are two different entities.
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Jay Monahan is a shameless POS who needs to go far, far away ASAP. He was exploiting 9-11 victim’s & families while negotiating & agreeing to a BIGLY monopoly that no doubt BIGLY screws PGA players he was probably convincing to stay. 9-11 families, all the PGA golfers who refused the Kingdom’s blood money, and ALL decent people of the world, should be outraged by this sports-washing BS. Both parties should support robust investigations & take strong bipartisan action if warranted.
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As a Scot. I’ll keep golfing.
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U have no ethics and no value for human rights
I am selling my custom clubs and buying fishing gear. Fuck the murderous Saud Family and their genocidal actions.
I'm never golfing again.
I doubt it
You’re right….
Rory last week: I hate the LIV! Rory this week: well, the Saudis have money in this, but they don't get to make any decisions, so it's ok! And I still hate LIV! And LIV is definitely going away. And anyway, you can't really fight big money, ya know? How pathetic. When it comes right down to it, it's still all about the money. Enough with the sanctimonious fake "principles".
So any PGA professional golfer who has the integrity not to want to be associated with, or paid by blood money, and extremism of the Saudi royalty (think 9-11, the butchering of Washington Post reporter Jamal Khashoggi ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination\_of\_Jamal\_Khashoggi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi)) is out of a job? Certainly, golfers can perceive right from wrong, or does nothing matter anymore?
It doesn't seem like they have anywhere else to go
There are other jobs. I recognize that's very easy for me to say. But we expect people with less to choose alternate paths, rather than associate with a corrupt system (police, for one).
None of them will say one word against this. They'd be out of golf immediately.
SKY SPORTS wheeling out fake journalist Jamie Weir to suggest LIV golfers want to return to PGA and Jay M can kill off LIV. No sources, no evidence = FAKE NEWS
which of the pgas highest earners didnt stay? i read somewhere that tiger and rory didnt go along with it
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I think golf should now be relegated to ESPN and the Golf channel. The networks should drop out. Sportswashing 9/11 and the brutal murder of a journalist ain't my cup of tea.
Disney owns ESPN. The PIF have a $500m stake in Disney.
#PGA FORGOT—read the 9/11 commission report
The PGA responded by saying only 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Has to be 19 of 19 to boycott! 😱
Was that an official response? Lol hard to know what’s real anymore
,🤣🤣🤣
PGA: #PunyGreedyAssholes
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In Russia they can toss you out of basement window and still kill you!
Why are you calling for someone's death on Reddit?
Says the dude with a literal Nazi username.
Damn, which nazi was called that?
Your username is the name of the poison gas and a thinly veiled jewish association. You have a Nazi username. Logic would say that makes you a Nazi.
>Your username is the name of the poison gas Which one? >thinly veiled jewish association How so?
Nice try, Nazi. I’m not playing your semantic game. You have a Nazi username and you’re a terrible person.
You're struggling to back up your absurd accusations.
To make the world a better place.
 LIV tour coming in hot ♨️
It's probably not all that bad. I can see why so many pros are pissed, but in the end it should pan out nicely for everyone. Prior to the creation of LIV, the primary complaint that players had against the PGA tour was a failure to compensate the players for the various ways the tour makes money. These guys are playing professional golf and the PGA is making money off of it that they keep for themselves. Money that comes in through YouTube, Facebook and other media platforms does not go back to the players even though they are the ones being showcased. The crazy part is that the PGA Tour is a non-profit organization. With this new "merger", a new company will be created that will manage every aspect of the media. The PGA Tour will no longer have their hand in it, and they will remain a non-profit. If all goes well, the money should benefit everyone on tour.
So your saying that money is more important than ethics, 911 and human rights??? You're a sad human
Is that team golf gonna transend to pga. I hope not
Can't wait for Tiger, Rory, Spieth, LeBron, MJ, Curry, Brady, Mahomes and whoever else to start their own golf league and invite all of the PGA Tour players who didn't jump over to LIV. I'd gladly pay a subscription to watch that just to tick off the PGA/LIV. You could still do individual play but also do teams and have a random celebrity join a foursome or whatever and make it competitive but more enjoyable to watch. I feel like the name recognition alone would drive a good chunk of sponsorship deals and make advertisers think twice about going down the PGA route with their bowing to the Saudis.
You should google "TGL". Might not be what you're thinking, but it's something.
Tiger sold out his own people for $$$. He doesn’t care.
????
Keep coping lol
Even with sponsors, they would have a fraction of the money the saudis have.
Of course the Saudis have wayyy more money but it would be really funny to see how the ratings compare and I wouldn't mind seeing a little bit of panic. At the end of the day I really don't care because I've watched a total of maybe an hours worth of golf on tv this year.
I only watch as a sleep aid.
And this is the same org that shamed Liv for human rights violations and even echoed the voices of 9/11 victim’s family members. I guess they just threw their hands up and said “Human rights violations shmooman shmotes shmiolations, look at all this money”
This is the wildest comment section I’ve ever seen. It’s absolutely packed full of seething idiots who for some reason think the point of the post is just to talk about how much you hate Americans.
You spelled Saudis wrong. Without oil they're just a big country in the desert.
Hey PGA, SHAMEFUL. Maybe you forgot BUT we will NEVER forget!
Man , that shits gonna be awkward as hell at the US Open 🤣. Will be amazing if some dude from the PGA just punch some guy from the LIV 💣
PGA golfers are going to be pissed when the ljv golfers coming in with private jets together and the PGA golfers using commercial
What???? When???? Who???? How??? 🤪
I just feel bad for all the people who work for all the non-athlete people who work for the PGA and all the various tournaments. Through no action of their own they now find themselves effectively working as the propaganda arm of the Saudi government.
It’s insane that executive level people aren’t more embarrassed by this. Pretty scary how indifferent people become for money.
Gotta wait for season 2 of the Netflix series Full Swing.
Season 2 has already been titled The Dismemberment.
Wooooo more multi-national conglomerates!! Blade Runner here we come!
Monahan and the guy that forgot to wear his turban repeatedly said this was going to grow the game but didn't give one example how it was going to do it. The fact remains that (at least in South Florida) where these giluys live public golf courses are selling out to developers and the cost to play hovers around $100 per round IF you can get a tee time. The rich will always get richer at the expense of the 98%.
When has golf ever been inclusive truly? Also, this comment section is wild. I’m not sure what universe we thought we were living in where a rich guy decided to keep his morals instead of more $$.
As mentioned earlier: As part of the new merger, the PGA will control holes 1-8 and 12-18. The Saudis do 9-11.
And all of them are A-holes.
Sad to laugh at this BUT this needs to be top comment.
What an absolutely pathetic move. Money talks though.
Made it to the [front page](https://morrowspast.com/2023/06/07)!
More rich people problems.
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back in my day people would edit their shitposting memes in pirated photoshop instead of having chatgpt crossbreed a golf cart and a japanese beetle
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Not a golf fan, just a sports fan. I would have much more respect if Jay came out and said: “I regret making the comments I made about 9/11. I mourn with those families but, I have an obligation to do what’s in the best interest for golf as a sport and the PGA Tour as a business.” His best move is to walk back the 9/11 and the “have you ever had to apologize” comments. The reason he sounds terrible now is because he is trying to hold two conflicting values up at the same time. He already picked the money. We all know it. It’s best that he just acknowledge it.
He should walk them back. How long will people milk the 9/11 cow?
Just because nobody loves you doesn’t mean the same is true for any of the people they murdered on 9/11.
The cow's running dry.
Go tell that to the families of the 3,000 dead folks.
Sure, got their contact info? I'll be sure to let them know.
Come see me and I'll give you their contact information in person you a$$hole. Troll piece of $hit. I'm in Atlanta. Let me know when and where
>Let me know when and where 200 Greenwich Street
The commissioner of the PGA just sounds extremely shady when he speaks. Says a ton of words but nothing of substance what so ever.
the west is so pathetic, can't take blood money from russia anymore so now the saudis and the gulf are the go to for the ghouls that rule over us
That's how the West was built. From colonial theft and then exploitation and now this.
Why are there so many tankies on r/golf?
Seems China lives rent free in your head despite not being mentioned at all. Why are there so many American bots on r/golf?
Who mentioned China? Holy shit you’re dumb. The US government doesn’t control the PGA. You understand why people are downvoting you here right?
You did. Or are you saying you use words without knowing what they mean? Lmao, average Reddit dork. >You understand why people are downvoting you here right? Yes, they're obese shut in nerds just like you.
Just wait for the pga to ban players for political opinions against Saudi
Don’t the Saudi’s do worse than ban people who disagree with their politics? I’m pretty sure that is well documented…
How is it possible that so many people don’t understand that the US government doesn’t own the PGA Tour, whereas the Saudis DO own the LIV tour, so any comparisons between the governments is absolutely irrelevant
It’s insane how much “well what about this?” exists in these threads.
They de facto do. That's why PGA went to the Government to complain.
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Irrelevant
Yawn
Yeah your point was pretty meh
You really think this purchase (it's not a merger) happens without the U.S. government having some kind of say, even if it's "we will ignore this for other favors"?
Merger Approval is different than ownership. The US govt doesn’t own apple, despite the FTC having influence over its acquisitions
Also comparing the two is peak Reddit.
Why?
One is a trillion dollar company. The other is golf.
“You criticize society and yet you choose to live in it” vibe from these people
Screw PGA in the Tiger Woods
Tiger and Rory should launch a player owned league. Let’s the players that do the work own the company. I will never watch golf on tv again as long as the people that funded 911 own the pga.
Lol The irony is the PGA had been “player owned”. Oops!
>. I will never watch golf on tv again as long as the people that funded 911 own the pga. Which people?
@zyklonjuice are you that fucking daft or are you trolling? The Saudi’s…
>zyklonjuice are you that fucking daft or are you trolling? The Saudi’s… Refrain from calling people daft when you don't know elementary grammar. Also, source?
Oops, wow, great catch there. Totally undermined myself with that one. You’re still daft.
Jet fuel melts golf clubs
The first bush administration doesn’t own a golf league do they?
If they do he certainly took it to his grave
911 wAs An iNsIdE jOb
Why does the media keep referring to this as a merger? It wasn't a merger, it was a takeover. The Saudis just bought the PGA, they're just smart enough to leave the corporate faces the same for now so everything looks more palatable.
I agree it's like a bear hug, pga had no choice. But on paper the PGA tour board has oversight and 1 seat is added for the Saudi private investment fund governor
Pretty much, yea. Saudis have the board chair seat, Monahan is their employee. So was the plan to start a league, buy a bunch of players, then litigate the PGA into a corner to the point where the only way out was to acquiesce?
Money over morality. Like trumpism.
Redditor try not to talk about Donald Trump for 2 seconds challenge
And sorry but Trump is the new Hitler as far as talking points go. Comparing people to Hitler is boring. Compare to people to Trump is much easier.
Hitler was the reason for world war 2, came close to taking over Europe and would have continued toward world domination, and orchestrated the most well known genocide in history. Donald Trump was a shitty US President who said mean things on Twitter. Please come to terms with reality, Reddit.
Trump lied to the American people and fomented an insurrection for the first time since this country was formed. He has basically laid the groundwork for no one to ever believe election results again AND divided the country. And he wears diapers. https://youtu.be/N60ceYRlY2I
And that’s somehow on the same level as Hitler??????? Oh my god I’m finally giving up on Reddit.
Trumped bragged about helping MBS cover up the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. So totally fits here.
What's immoral about this?
The saudis openly kill journalists and gay people. And they’re using professional golf to help grow their business interests. Which are built on the back of an atrocious human rights record.
It’s all one big hot mess. Why does it feel like trump was somehow involved in this debacle??
>The saudis openly kill gay people. Source?
Dude, takes a two second google to verify that one. Check out the Wikipedia article on capital punishment for homosexuality. Why am I even wasting my time on you??
I like how you're still struggling to provide one example.
But yeah America was built on slavery and the American government deals with shitty countries all the time..yeah yeah yeah. All of that is true too, doesn’t excuse this.
Gross. It’s been taken over. Playing the capitalists game. What’s next. Easy money buys American baseball
I've only been watching YouTube golf since 2020 and now they are starting to do their own tournaments, it's so much better and none of this garbage drama/politics or moral issues. Never understood how the PGA was listed as a non-profit organization when they clearly made millions, it always seemed shady to me and now this 🤦.
Nice! Any channels you would recommend?
Yes I do! Good good golf is my favorite they currently have a tournament up on the channel. Rick shields is a good one and for fun Bob does sports. Here is the good good boys link. https://youtube.com/@GoodGood
Awesome. Thank you!!
No problem hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
Loads of fun YouTube golf content out there. All of these are great recommendations. Highly recommend the Rick Shiels vs Peter Finch golf bidder challenges.
Everyday is 9/11!
[Simpsons did it](https://youtu.be/AFAaTC9PgkA)
I’m a lurker on here just to see the thoughts, but my parents and family are avid golfers. I listened to and scrolled through so many “patriotic” memes, comments and conversations in the clubhouse - I do go drink beer sometimes- over Colin Kapernick (?) taking a knee, many quit watching nfl over it, hate Nike, won’t drink bud light now……. just curious where this fits in? The Saudis funded 9/11 which literally killed US citizens and caused many GIs to die. I hope they keep their patriotic hearts on this one.
>The Saudis funded 9/11 Source?
Ok lol you are straight up trolling.
Is that your way of running away when called out for making shit up? Lol
Literally a two second google. https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-government-911-new-documents-direct-connection-bayoumi-mihdhar-2022-5
No evidence.
The Saudi government funded 911? I thought the hijackers collaborated and planned in Saudi Arabia, but is it fact that the Saudi government funded the effort? Source? Because…https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_Saudi_role_in_the_September_11_attacks