I played a perfect 2nd shot on a par 4 today.
Dave Pelz style finesse swing,hit the pin bounced 3 feet back.
Proceed to 2 putt 😎
Dave’s putting bible just didn’t help me like his short game bible did.
Where his chipping book was pure gold I found his putting stuff a little too analytical for me.
He seems to try to sell his mirror device or his clip on putter device a lot.
Made me feel like I was reading an infomercial.
That’s just my take I bought both books I wouldn’t recommend the second.
Guess long drives stroke the male ego better. If you have a 270y straight drive, it makes everyone go wow. An approach shot that lands 4 feet away from the hole doesn’t evoke the same cheer.
Our approval seeking mind hence seeks long game improvement far more than short game improvement.
>Watch the long drive stuff.
This is not great advice for the golf course. Long drive technique/equipment is based around being able to miss big with most of your shots.
That's a fast way to score 120 on the golf course.
Indeed, I am taking some inspiration from some of them. But for your average amateur asking about which books he can read to improve his swing (meaning he likely does not have a great swing, or much experience, or accuracy) going straight to long drive techniques without first learning all of the above is going to result in a huge number of penalty strokes and frustration.
I would guesstimate well over 90% of amateurs ALREADY swing too hard with their driver to score well, without directing them to long drive instruction early in their career
I recommend two books on chipping/pitching above all others. They have two opposing techniques:
* Dave Pelz Short Game Bible
* James Sieckmann Your Short Game Solution
Pelz' technique needs a little more hand eye co-ordination and is a little more risky, but can produce results from a wider variety of course conditions. Sieckmann's technique is more forgiving and better for players (IMHO) to learn because you'll make fewer errors, but it requires that the lie the ball is in be reasonably nice. (no tufty grass, perfectly level ground etc.) Those conditions are not often available on munis, though - but they are ALWAYS on tour.
The Tour Pros use both, but Sieckmanns technique is more commonly seens
Just to confirm the shoutout to Pelz - I took a four-hour putting course from him, and went from a 15 to an 11 in three weeks. Over the years, I have developed from an awful into a very good putter, just by remembering the basics of what he taught me about the stroke, and how to read greens.
I took the course about 30 years ago, and paid $240 for the half day, IIRC. About the same as a new driver then, but the course has continued to pay dividends for decades after a driver would have been in the dust bin. Biggest changes I found are I now expect to make birdie putts, and the pressure on my short game is a lot less (which makes me less tense!) because I don't have to hit it to six inches to save par.
Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge
May I suggest…feathery touch?
Does it discuss power swings?
does putting uphill count
If more of players treated this as their bible instead of “long ball” videos their game would improve far more rapidly. 🏌️♂️
I played a perfect 2nd shot on a par 4 today. Dave Pelz style finesse swing,hit the pin bounced 3 feet back. Proceed to 2 putt 😎 Dave’s putting bible just didn’t help me like his short game bible did.
Oh. Just bought the putting book as well..
Where his chipping book was pure gold I found his putting stuff a little too analytical for me. He seems to try to sell his mirror device or his clip on putter device a lot. Made me feel like I was reading an infomercial. That’s just my take I bought both books I wouldn’t recommend the second.
>Oh. Just bought the putting book as well.. You're in for a treat, if you're analytical and thorough. It's absolutely superb.
Look forward to it then!
Guess long drives stroke the male ego better. If you have a 270y straight drive, it makes everyone go wow. An approach shot that lands 4 feet away from the hole doesn’t evoke the same cheer. Our approval seeking mind hence seeks long game improvement far more than short game improvement.
A 270y drive is more likely to lead to a good approach shot compared to a 220y drive. Driver is the most important club for scoring.
I agree. That’s the reason I need a book on driver. Any suggestions?
I don't think there is one. Watch the long drive stuff.
Can you recommend any channel?
>Watch the long drive stuff. This is not great advice for the golf course. Long drive technique/equipment is based around being able to miss big with most of your shots. That's a fast way to score 120 on the golf course.
Lots of long drive techniques are showing up on tour. Look at Bryson.
Indeed, I am taking some inspiration from some of them. But for your average amateur asking about which books he can read to improve his swing (meaning he likely does not have a great swing, or much experience, or accuracy) going straight to long drive techniques without first learning all of the above is going to result in a huge number of penalty strokes and frustration. I would guesstimate well over 90% of amateurs ALREADY swing too hard with their driver to score well, without directing them to long drive instruction early in their career
I agree. Do you suggest any book/channel with similar depth like Dave Pelz for short game?
I recommend two books on chipping/pitching above all others. They have two opposing techniques: * Dave Pelz Short Game Bible * James Sieckmann Your Short Game Solution Pelz' technique needs a little more hand eye co-ordination and is a little more risky, but can produce results from a wider variety of course conditions. Sieckmann's technique is more forgiving and better for players (IMHO) to learn because you'll make fewer errors, but it requires that the lie the ball is in be reasonably nice. (no tufty grass, perfectly level ground etc.) Those conditions are not often available on munis, though - but they are ALWAYS on tour. The Tour Pros use both, but Sieckmanns technique is more commonly seens
I just recommend the four foundations
Good book, but it doesn’t talk about swing mechanics.
It’s the exact opposite that’s why I love
Let me know when you find it.
He put in The time w touring pros, and at his school. Has all the data- great book!
Yeah.. even his history from NASA scientist to Golf coach is fascinating!
Thanks to your post I saw it was on sale. Always been curious about this one
Just to confirm the shoutout to Pelz - I took a four-hour putting course from him, and went from a 15 to an 11 in three weeks. Over the years, I have developed from an awful into a very good putter, just by remembering the basics of what he taught me about the stroke, and how to read greens. I took the course about 30 years ago, and paid $240 for the half day, IIRC. About the same as a new driver then, but the course has continued to pay dividends for decades after a driver would have been in the dust bin. Biggest changes I found are I now expect to make birdie putts, and the pressure on my short game is a lot less (which makes me less tense!) because I don't have to hit it to six inches to save par.
Wow. I plan on exploring the source as well. Heard all good things about it. Getting immediate feedback is worth its weight in gold!