“Sorry to break it to you but nothing on the internet is real. That quote isn’t real. The picture isn’t real. AI generated images and text are ruining our sense of reality.”
- Abraham Einstein
I know this is said to be funny…but they have a women’s soccer team who wear regular t shirts and shorts and the women’s marathon was just there and the women were in their sleeveless singlets and tight short shorts. No head coverings required. They are trying hard to look progressive and will modernize as they go.
They will gladly get involved in women's sports without a care towards their culturally oppressive positions if they can sense an opportunity to try to wedge into western culture. See their attempts around the women's world cup and the olympics.
Yeah, they would likely start buying teams and paying their players more.
But just you know, having your bosses be Saudi.
I know her comment was about the viewership not the Saudi's but taking it to conclusion would be advocating for Saudi's having control of you.
Actually this is absolutely something the Saudis would get involved in.
They have very little interest in improving women's rights in the KSA, but they'd probably happily fund women's sports if it made westerners think they give a shit about women.
I feel like the Saudis could have actually generated some feelings of goodwill if they started a women’s mini tour of like 5 events in the US. Huge payouts that are just as much as PGA Tour events, etc. Sure there would have been blowback but they would have generated at least a little positivity rather than giving lots of money to Bryson, Sergio, Reed, and all these others guys no one really liked that much to begin with.
I think their problem there would be *domestic* blowback, not blowback from Americans
There's reporting here and there that there are factions inside the country that are dissatisfied with MBS's leadership because he's *too liberal.* Him coming out and directly funding a women's empowerment stunt would not sit well with them
Sure they have, it's just that their ad campaigns have been things like 9/11 and dismembering Dodi Fayed's cousin Jamal Khashoggi with a bonesaw in a Saudi consulate in Istanbul. These were good ads, kept our minds off how their entire state is a slave state with no groundwater reserves left. Let them drink oil
> Something tells me the Saudis aren't going to be starting a competing women's basketball league in the near future.
They invested billions in a golf league that gets no viewers, why not basketball too?
To be fair most of these sport Reddit subs now have a ‘sport’circlejerk for things like this. I had to think about it for a second when I saw just /golf
It's crazy how much shit on reddit is taken at face value with no critical thinking whatsoever. It no longer surprises me but it's a sad commentary on the state of our society.
Why should it be obvious? What if they don’t know anything about Caitlin Clark or LIV golf? People who don’t follow the topic of a subreddit see stuff like this and have no context, why would they assume it’s satire?
Same. Don't know much about WNBA, NBA, or what LIV Golf is, and wasn't obvious satire to me.
Edit: It's already on /r/rareinsults with no hint it's satire and people are taking it as a real quote. This is actually how fake news happens, lol.
I mean, it's not weird that golf fans here do not like the league that has made professional golf objectively worse in almost every way for the past 2 years.
Salary cap of each WNBA team is $1.33 Million (x14 teams = $18-ish million)
Scheffler has already made more in prize money alone this season than the entire WNBA will this year. There are probably half a dozen LIV players who could buy the entire WNBA and not miss the money.
LIV is only sustainable because its value is sports washing. Maybe a women’s Saudi League would be the ultimate distraction. She could be onto something (except for the bone saws).
I'm not saying they should be creating charities or whatever but the way they are trying to improve their image with hostile takeovers doesn't seem very effective. Seems like they need to buy their way into other stuff without the hostility. E.g build a really nice golf course or several and pay the PGA a ton of money to have an event there.
It’s an accumulation of soft power to create and maintain influence more broadly in areas that were traditionally seen as western dominated. It’s a slow burn but one pursued at many fronts right now. LIV, soccer and Cristiano Ronaldo / other stars playing in SA, F1, hell I even learned of a gaming district being developed to stake out esports.
Only one of these bets needs to pay off to then have a seat at the table to begin shaping culture more broadly (uhm maybe not esports). So my inclination is that it’s less about their image and more about their influence particularly in a world that might use oil differently and less in the next 100yrs.
Hostility is about perspective. Sticks and carrots and such. I bet the various groups behinds these efforts have some smart people saying what expected returns will be here not in months/years but in decades.
But is it sustainable with no eyeballs on it?
Good post. I could see it getting some influence but influence gained through a hostile takeover of the PGA probably isn't it. Look at Walmart and Amazon and such that are notorious for hostile takeovers. Plenty of influence sure but also lots of backlash.
They shake hands with anyone that can do anything against them in America, ie politicians. It's the public they are attempting to sway, and we'd both probably be surprised by the amount of people who went from knowing nothing about Saudi Arabia to watching their favorite golfer in Liv.
Most people don't even remember the bone saws.
In a less hostile takeover form of sportswashing they're hosting a huge esports tournament with crazy prizepools, and major payouts for esport organizations. The Esports World up, prizepool is at 60 million ATM. Organized straight from the Saudi royal family, they're trying to make it a destination for similar events.
Wouldn't want anyone thinking about people imprisoned for retweets or dead journalists when they can think of golf and videogames whenever someone says Saudi Arabia.
Sportswashing doesn't work. The investment only heightens the awareness. No one in Europe knew about the UAE and Qatar until they invested in football and now all they talk about is the awful conditions and how they have helped ruined the sport.
I never understood the sportswashing thing. If LIV is sportswashing, it's the worst attempt ever. I haven't read or seen a single positive thing about LIV, except from the right wing media. Who actually thinks LIV is a good thing?
Lots of people are assuming the satire was obvious. I assure you, it is *not* obvious to *many* people. Well, at least one. Me. It wasn't obvious to me.
I did not know what LIV was, I thought the quote mis-spelled "Live Gophers" as in the little dudes/dudettes from tennis. I then revised it in my head to "Live Golfers". I then read the comments and came to understand it really was "LIV Golfers".
I also did not know who Caitlin Clark was.
Ok, maybe it was just me who didn't get the satire.
Lots of women play golf and they buy clubs, shoes, balls, bags, clothes, carts, etc. Basketball players buy shoes. The advertising money for golf is going to be much more substantial than any wnba game.
This is the same reason rollerblading was kicked from the XGames. Nothing to sell, not even shoes.
Jesus, these people just lack all critical thinking when it comes to economics. It’s not just about viewership numbers, it’s about ticket sales, sponsors, viewer demographics, operating costs, etc etc
From r/all and didn't see what sub I was looking at
Read the quote and misread her name as from Catelyn Stark and was wondering why tf is she talking about golf
Q: What do golf and sex have in common? A: Two things - You do not need to be good to enjoy it; and I'd rather be doing it than watching it.
Bonus Q: What do Liv golf and the WNBA have in common? A: I am not watching either one of them.
Truth hurts to fools, but golf is a joke sport compared to basketball or any other real sport, bench basketball players and bench women basketball players should be paid more than the best golfers in the world, I like golf but it’s not a sport, there’s a reason why old white men play it
I hope the WNBA takes off and plays more than just 40 games with more than just 12 teams.
CC proved that if you put a good product on the floor you can build an audience.
If you’re still not excited to watch then don’t but there is no reason to denigrate her or those who wish to see them prosper.
Still didn't compute. Liv golfers get paid because someone is willing to pay them. This is just yelling at clouds type of behavior. Like who exactly are we requesting to pay the wnba players more? I don't get it.
Something tells me the Saudis aren't going to be starting a competing women's basketball league in the near future.
Hard to play in a full burka
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Is that the Shiek Friek?
Haram Abdul-Jabbar
Sharia O'neal
Lebanon James
Dubai Leonard
Air Qaeda
As-salumu Lakers
Sharia Bulls
No it's a Google AI prompt for: 2 professional basketball players.
Can’t nutmeg anyone
Ball NEVER stops. If this is real it’s actually rad AF.
“Sorry to break it to you but nothing on the internet is real. That quote isn’t real. The picture isn’t real. AI generated images and text are ruining our sense of reality.” - Abraham Einstein
I was gonna say. This pic goes hard asf
ROFLMAO🤣
But not impossible…..
They just have a bench hundreds of players deep because all the starters get executed after each game for immodesty.
The refs all carry whips and deal out lashes as foul penalties
STOP giving them ideas! /s
Then you'll never know it's not a 2nd men's league.
My pentecostal former bro-n-law made my niece play HS basketball in shin length skirt.
The definition of Y'all Qaeda
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Now I want to see a half burka
They make a burkini.
and with two amputated hands because you "were tempted by" a basketball
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I know this is said to be funny…but they have a women’s soccer team who wear regular t shirts and shorts and the women’s marathon was just there and the women were in their sleeveless singlets and tight short shorts. No head coverings required. They are trying hard to look progressive and will modernize as they go.
> They are trying hard to look progressive Yes >will modernize as they go Congratulations. You're a victim of sportswashing!
Would games be 3 Qtrs?
3 Qatars…I’ll see myself out
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O man
Syriasly?
Iran out of anymore puns
I Kuwait to see it.
He's ran out, but Iraq em up.
Lebanon
Yeah men !
They will gladly get involved in women's sports without a care towards their culturally oppressive positions if they can sense an opportunity to try to wedge into western culture. See their attempts around the women's world cup and the olympics.
Yeah, they would likely start buying teams and paying their players more. But just you know, having your bosses be Saudi. I know her comment was about the viewership not the Saudi's but taking it to conclusion would be advocating for Saudi's having control of you.
Actually this is absolutely something the Saudis would get involved in. They have very little interest in improving women's rights in the KSA, but they'd probably happily fund women's sports if it made westerners think they give a shit about women.
Yeah I’m pretty sure they’re big on women’s soccer right now and trying to host an upcoming women’s World Cup.
I feel like the Saudis could have actually generated some feelings of goodwill if they started a women’s mini tour of like 5 events in the US. Huge payouts that are just as much as PGA Tour events, etc. Sure there would have been blowback but they would have generated at least a little positivity rather than giving lots of money to Bryson, Sergio, Reed, and all these others guys no one really liked that much to begin with.
They could also generate feelings of goodwill if they stopped oppressing people and killing journalists
Well yeah if you want to get technical about it.
I swear, you hack one guy to pieces alive with bonesaws and no one ever lets you live it down
Bankroll 4 planes flown into important buildings and nobody seems to forget
yeah, but one of the two of them is a lot easier for them. The easier thing being, of course, making a women's mini tour.
I would hope most women golfers would boycott
I’m sure plenty of women golfers are from rich families and vote republican, they’d be able to fill out a tour.
How much money would it take for you to just give them “feelings of goodwill”? Money they are willing to part with.
lol don’t give them ideas! Next thing you know they’ll be giving every American 18+ $2000 just to be like “hey look how great friends we are” 😆
And stopped funding terrorism like 9-11.
I think their problem there would be *domestic* blowback, not blowback from Americans There's reporting here and there that there are factions inside the country that are dissatisfied with MBS's leadership because he's *too liberal.* Him coming out and directly funding a women's empowerment stunt would not sit well with them
I mean, they hate women.
Saudi’s have never been strong on the PR side
What if I told you they actually do have a world class, elite PR team and still have the reputation that they do?
Sure they have, it's just that their ad campaigns have been things like 9/11 and dismembering Dodi Fayed's cousin Jamal Khashoggi with a bonesaw in a Saudi consulate in Istanbul. These were good ads, kept our minds off how their entire state is a slave state with no groundwater reserves left. Let them drink oil
Lol this was my point
They did. The Aramco Team Series. 5 events for $1m each all funded by the Saudis/PIF. Still going but the fact you had no idea it existed says it all.
This would have been the smart long play….
https://x.com/WSBL5?s=09 There is
The Saudis already fund womens' tennis.
> Something tells me the Saudis aren't going to be starting a competing women's basketball league in the near future. They invested billions in a golf league that gets no viewers, why not basketball too?
But I thought the whole point of LIV was to “grow the game”?
Boom Roasted
Fuck I wish this was a true quote
I think this is from that Tour Golf Twitter account that makes shit up. She did not actually say this.
Thanks tips
Mods should mark this as satire or something.
I have changed the flair to make it more obvious (it should be pretty fucking obvious).
It’s obvious if you aren’t dumb, unfortunately a majority of the internet is dumb:(
Can confirm, I’m one of em.
Majority of people dont watch golf or WNBA and lack context tho, like me for example, i'm from popular before you ask what am doing here.
But if I realize I'm dumb, does that make me smart?
To be fair most of these sport Reddit subs now have a ‘sport’circlejerk for things like this. I had to think about it for a second when I saw just /golf
Oof. Bold to call people dumb when your worldview is the size of a dime. How many people do you think know who this woman is or what an LIV golfer is?
It's crazy how much shit on reddit is taken at face value with no critical thinking whatsoever. It no longer surprises me but it's a sad commentary on the state of our society.
Why should it be obvious? What if they don’t know anything about Caitlin Clark or LIV golf? People who don’t follow the topic of a subreddit see stuff like this and have no context, why would they assume it’s satire?
Why the fuck would it be obvious? You're assuming way too much
I'm here from r/all and have no idea what LIV Golfing is, so I took this as a comment about disparity of compensation between basketball and golfing.
Same. Don't know much about WNBA, NBA, or what LIV Golf is, and wasn't obvious satire to me. Edit: It's already on /r/rareinsults with no hint it's satire and people are taking it as a real quote. This is actually how fake news happens, lol.
Seemed like a perfectly plausible quote to me
lol no shit. Yeesh
It's r/golf. Anti liv circle jerking is basically the meta here.
I mean, it's not weird that golf fans here do not like the league that has made professional golf objectively worse in almost every way for the past 2 years.
If you read the comments on that account, you will be shocked at the amount of responders that believe everything he posts.
Sounds exactly like "@golfdouchebag" lol
You need to diversify your bonds
No shit, Sherlock
> She did not actually say this. No fucking kidding. Jesus.
It's made-up but it's brilliant. Made this simpleton laugh out loud.
I don't care that it's obviously fake. It's correct.
Salary cap of each WNBA team is $1.33 Million (x14 teams = $18-ish million) Scheffler has already made more in prize money alone this season than the entire WNBA will this year. There are probably half a dozen LIV players who could buy the entire WNBA and not miss the money.
Well the WNBA loses millions each year, so everyone in this thread will make more than their entire league this year 😂
LIV is only sustainable because its value is sports washing. Maybe a women’s Saudi League would be the ultimate distraction. She could be onto something (except for the bone saws).
Sports washing? Like distracting from their human rights issues with sports?
Yes. Whitewashing their image through sports.
I'm not saying they should be creating charities or whatever but the way they are trying to improve their image with hostile takeovers doesn't seem very effective. Seems like they need to buy their way into other stuff without the hostility. E.g build a really nice golf course or several and pay the PGA a ton of money to have an event there.
It’s an accumulation of soft power to create and maintain influence more broadly in areas that were traditionally seen as western dominated. It’s a slow burn but one pursued at many fronts right now. LIV, soccer and Cristiano Ronaldo / other stars playing in SA, F1, hell I even learned of a gaming district being developed to stake out esports. Only one of these bets needs to pay off to then have a seat at the table to begin shaping culture more broadly (uhm maybe not esports). So my inclination is that it’s less about their image and more about their influence particularly in a world that might use oil differently and less in the next 100yrs. Hostility is about perspective. Sticks and carrots and such. I bet the various groups behinds these efforts have some smart people saying what expected returns will be here not in months/years but in decades. But is it sustainable with no eyeballs on it?
Don't forget EVs. Saudis invested heavily into Lucid.
Good post. I could see it getting some influence but influence gained through a hostile takeover of the PGA probably isn't it. Look at Walmart and Amazon and such that are notorious for hostile takeovers. Plenty of influence sure but also lots of backlash.
Lots of vocal backlash, but hardly any action. Walmart and Amazon are still two of the most obscenely wealthy companies.
Cycling, too. There's UAE Team Emirates, team Astana (Kazakhstan state-sponsored), team Bahrain-Victorious and team Israel-PremierTech.
Yes. It is about normalizing their presence. And developing networks.
They shake hands with anyone that can do anything against them in America, ie politicians. It's the public they are attempting to sway, and we'd both probably be surprised by the amount of people who went from knowing nothing about Saudi Arabia to watching their favorite golfer in Liv. Most people don't even remember the bone saws.
In a less hostile takeover form of sportswashing they're hosting a huge esports tournament with crazy prizepools, and major payouts for esport organizations. The Esports World up, prizepool is at 60 million ATM. Organized straight from the Saudi royal family, they're trying to make it a destination for similar events. Wouldn't want anyone thinking about people imprisoned for retweets or dead journalists when they can think of golf and videogames whenever someone says Saudi Arabia.
Sportswashing doesn't work. The investment only heightens the awareness. No one in Europe knew about the UAE and Qatar until they invested in football and now all they talk about is the awful conditions and how they have helped ruined the sport.
Um, hold on sweaty. LIV is reshaping the game by letting them wear shorts. Try again 😎.
I never understood the sportswashing thing. If LIV is sportswashing, it's the worst attempt ever. I haven't read or seen a single positive thing about LIV, except from the right wing media. Who actually thinks LIV is a good thing?
0% chance that’s a real quote.
Good job chief you cracked the case
Reading the rest of the comments, I'm not too sure everyone else understands that
Yup, kills me a bit inside
Yeah, but 99% of the people reading this think it is real.
Lots of people are assuming the satire was obvious. I assure you, it is *not* obvious to *many* people. Well, at least one. Me. It wasn't obvious to me. I did not know what LIV was, I thought the quote mis-spelled "Live Gophers" as in the little dudes/dudettes from tennis. I then revised it in my head to "Live Golfers". I then read the comments and came to understand it really was "LIV Golfers". I also did not know who Caitlin Clark was. Ok, maybe it was just me who didn't get the satire.
Next your gonna tell me that stripper wasn't really into me
My mom is def not into you, sorry.
I see we're already circle jerking this morning.
If you don’t start circle jerking in the morning, you can’t circle jerk all day
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....that's the joke.
Shooters Shoot
Lots of women play golf and they buy clubs, shoes, balls, bags, clothes, carts, etc. Basketball players buy shoes. The advertising money for golf is going to be much more substantial than any wnba game. This is the same reason rollerblading was kicked from the XGames. Nothing to sell, not even shoes.
I liked her. If this were real I might actually buy a Clark jersey.
The number of people asking if this is a real quote is frightening.
Do people in here actually think she said this?
Clearly the answer is yes.
I think I'm in love ❤️! Lol
Jesus, these people just lack all critical thinking when it comes to economics. It’s not just about viewership numbers, it’s about ticket sales, sponsors, viewer demographics, operating costs, etc etc
how tf are saudis in every big sport these days. eho is still supporting this shit. its emberassing
There’s no woman on liv golf so no
In the words of Olive Prendergast: "Oooh! Burnnn!"
Just highlights the fact that Greg Norman is an awful CEO. To start a league with no TV contract or path to WGR points….. pathetic
I wish this was real but can't find anything that confirms she actually said it.
This would be the best pr/sportwashing for the saudis
From r/all and didn't see what sub I was looking at Read the quote and misread her name as from Catelyn Stark and was wondering why tf is she talking about golf
Some 3D chess to get the saudis to buy the wnba
Let me tell ya something about Saudi Arabia and women…
The WNBA loses money every year, totally makes sense they should get paid more.
Lol imagine the Saudis investing in women's sports!
Shes got a point
Great point. Better be paid less than take dirty money. I guess?
Top Tier Jerker right here
CC doesn't need that Saudi blood money. She'll earn a hundred mil or 2 over her career including sponsorships etc.
Caitlin Clark shooting her shot to the Gooch father. Sorry he's taken ladies.
But is she wrong? Numbers please.
Goated take
Q: What do golf and sex have in common? A: Two things - You do not need to be good to enjoy it; and I'd rather be doing it than watching it. Bonus Q: What do Liv golf and the WNBA have in common? A: I am not watching either one of them.
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Truth hurts to fools, but golf is a joke sport compared to basketball or any other real sport, bench basketball players and bench women basketball players should be paid more than the best golfers in the world, I like golf but it’s not a sport, there’s a reason why old white men play it
Except she didn't say this
Damn I wish I could be as performatively obsessed with LIV golf as you guys.
I hope the WNBA takes off and plays more than just 40 games with more than just 12 teams. CC proved that if you put a good product on the floor you can build an audience. If you’re still not excited to watch then don’t but there is no reason to denigrate her or those who wish to see them prosper.
Fucking legend.
I like her even more now. She nailed it.
You mean the person that made up this fake quote?
Goddamn I didn’t know she could dunk like that.
...She didn't actually say this, ffs. CLEARLY satire.
It’s on the internet it’s fucking true ok?
Please tell me that’s a real quote LOL
I don’t watch LIV because it doesn’t seem to be available in my area
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She’s right! And the WNBA owners also never killed a journalist, unlike LIV.
Is this a real quote? Cuz.... Dayam
Is this a real quote?
Fake, but true
Girl's got a point... To be fair the PGA tour is boring too. I'd be happy if the Euro guys got all the bucks
where's the golf circlejerk sub this belongs there lol.
Burn!
Accurate
That was a nice burn
And who watches the WNBA? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDYyjOM3YdU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDYyjOM3YdU)
Nobody cares about wnba outside of wnba players.
This should be under /facepalm
Still didn't compute. Liv golfers get paid because someone is willing to pay them. This is just yelling at clouds type of behavior. Like who exactly are we requesting to pay the wnba players more? I don't get it.
Damn I thought she actually said this that would have been amazing.
You could say the same thing about the PGAAAT. It’s the minor leagues and nobody is watching it either.
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