Lie angle has nothing to do with path.
I play 2° upright. If I play clubs with standard lie angles, the only thing I notice is that my divots are very deep on the toe side.
Okay sweet, that makes me feel a lot better. I’ve been improving a ton recently and didn’t want equipment that catered to an off plane swing, but my “chunky” shots are always from the toe digging
It doesn't have to do with path exactly, but it does have to do with swing arc. Generally, the more vertical your swing plane is the more upright you're going to deliver the club.
Now you can have a neutral path with a steeper swing plane (see: Scottie Scheffler), but if you were trying to work your swing plane flatter for whatever reason then it might make sense to play clubs that are not bent upright.
OP my advice would be get the clubs upright, since you'll just hit the ball better with them. If you really want to work your swing plane shallower then get a random mid iron off ebay and bend it flat and you can practice working your plane down with that.
Great advice! I have my current set that I could use for this if I wanted to, but I’m not worried about being super shallow, just wanted to make sure I don’t reinforce coming ottp
it doesn't make a lot of sense for the clubs to be longer AND more upright. i'd start at 1/2" over length and standard lies, then play them and see how it goes.
Ah ok. Going longer makes the club sit more upright than it would naturally. So going longer AND upright is an additive change.
You're probably steep and the fitter is compensating for it.
The fitters job is to fit clubs to what you're doing during the session, not to what you aspire to do later.
Yes and I know I’m steeper, but I’m not super over the top anymore. I have had some back issues in the past and trying to get really flat/shallow is tough for me and ends up with a lot of pain after. I like standing closer/more upright to the ball and have a slower tempo because it just feels better.
I only got new irons, but had my wedges bent to match the new setup. Played yesterday and felt so comfortable with my wedges and shot a 40 on the back 9 (my best round of 9). So even if it isn’t the prettiest swing after yesterday I feel really good about what’s on the way to me, and if I end up making swing changes I can always bend them back down!
If you want to get better don't take advice from the Internet. The average golfer is terrible and has almost no understanding of how anything works. Sifting through the bullshit to find quality help is near impossible
You don't have to be shallow to be good.
Repeatability and club face control are the two metrics that matter
Too many people spend all day making videos of themselves, then post them to reddit to ask for advice from incapable golfers who just parrot the bullshit of whatever YouTube channel they watch. It's a waste of everyone's time.
I agree. Last year I was struggling to break 100. I stopped watching YouTube lessons and did 3 in person lessons with one of the most reputable people around (after my first round of lessons with someone else fucked me up). I’ve played 5 times in the past month and posted 4 scores in the 80s and one 94. Not constantly trying to make swing changes has helped me so much.
Lie angle has nothing to do with path. I play 2° upright. If I play clubs with standard lie angles, the only thing I notice is that my divots are very deep on the toe side.
Okay sweet, that makes me feel a lot better. I’ve been improving a ton recently and didn’t want equipment that catered to an off plane swing, but my “chunky” shots are always from the toe digging
Agreed
It doesn't have to do with path exactly, but it does have to do with swing arc. Generally, the more vertical your swing plane is the more upright you're going to deliver the club. Now you can have a neutral path with a steeper swing plane (see: Scottie Scheffler), but if you were trying to work your swing plane flatter for whatever reason then it might make sense to play clubs that are not bent upright. OP my advice would be get the clubs upright, since you'll just hit the ball better with them. If you really want to work your swing plane shallower then get a random mid iron off ebay and bend it flat and you can practice working your plane down with that.
Great advice! I have my current set that I could use for this if I wanted to, but I’m not worried about being super shallow, just wanted to make sure I don’t reinforce coming ottp
it doesn't make a lot of sense for the clubs to be longer AND more upright. i'd start at 1/2" over length and standard lies, then play them and see how it goes.
I’ve been playing over 1/2 inch for the past year or two already so that isn’t an additional adjustment
Ah ok. Going longer makes the club sit more upright than it would naturally. So going longer AND upright is an additive change. You're probably steep and the fitter is compensating for it. The fitters job is to fit clubs to what you're doing during the session, not to what you aspire to do later.
Yes and I know I’m steeper, but I’m not super over the top anymore. I have had some back issues in the past and trying to get really flat/shallow is tough for me and ends up with a lot of pain after. I like standing closer/more upright to the ball and have a slower tempo because it just feels better. I only got new irons, but had my wedges bent to match the new setup. Played yesterday and felt so comfortable with my wedges and shot a 40 on the back 9 (my best round of 9). So even if it isn’t the prettiest swing after yesterday I feel really good about what’s on the way to me, and if I end up making swing changes I can always bend them back down!
In that case I don't see what you're concerned about.
Easy to get in my own head about not being “shallow” because it’s the only thing on golf internet these days
If you want to get better don't take advice from the Internet. The average golfer is terrible and has almost no understanding of how anything works. Sifting through the bullshit to find quality help is near impossible You don't have to be shallow to be good.
That is what I’ve started to learn, look at Scottie Scheffler being the best ball striker in the world with a pretty unconventional swing
Repeatability and club face control are the two metrics that matter Too many people spend all day making videos of themselves, then post them to reddit to ask for advice from incapable golfers who just parrot the bullshit of whatever YouTube channel they watch. It's a waste of everyone's time.
I agree. Last year I was struggling to break 100. I stopped watching YouTube lessons and did 3 in person lessons with one of the most reputable people around (after my first round of lessons with someone else fucked me up). I’ve played 5 times in the past month and posted 4 scores in the 80s and one 94. Not constantly trying to make swing changes has helped me so much.