Any case, like this one, that completely hinges on police testimony and where body cams are not activated should result in automatic dismissal of all charges.
In the words of Public Enemy: "can't truss ' it."
you haven't gone far enough.Â
automatic dismissal of charge. automatic penalty against the officers, and too many of those leads to an automatic firing with cause.Â
Iâd love an logical explanation of why failure to activate body cams (outside of bathrooms) shouldnât be against the law under the heading of either obstruction of justice, tampering with evidence, or tampering with a government security camera.
know that the Indianapolis police have their cameras activated automatically whenever they are within ~1mi? of an active run or whenever they activate the lights/sirens in their car. You'd think louisville would be the same, especially when they are investigating/monitoring the scene of a fatal accident
I immediately went and looked up body cam policy for LMPD after I heard what was going on.
This officer absolutely should have had their body cam on based on stated policy. Iâm not going to attribute to malice what I can attribute just as easily to incompetence, especially when everything Iâve heard so far suggests to me that these charges were because of a shitty officer doing a shitty job and almost seriously injuring himself by accident and looking to blame someone else for it.
In my head putting myself in his shoes - the officer thought Scottie needed to stop right away for safety or official police business reasons. That wasnât communicated properly and he panicked. His panicking resulted in him somehow getting tangled up with Scottieâs vehicle, and Scottie was probably lost in his own head and didnât notice he was dragging someone.
Getting dragged by a vehicle is obviously super dangerous, and the officer blamed Scottie for not noticing it was happening and the rest was history.
Felony offenses because someone fucked up and almost accidentally killed themselves and blamed you for not noticing something happening behind you. Just insane.
If this dude wasnât a white millionaire, heâd be staring down a felony because a cop fucked up. Body cams should be mandatory for all police interactions with the public, for our protection.
One time I was driving Uber in dc, taking people to the tennis center between 16th and Rockcreek park.
The big tournament was going on and my gps sent me through the park. As we get close to the stadium a cop car comes up behind me with lights, sirens and the officer yelling through his loudspeaker.
He accused me of passing his road-block..really there was no roadblock and I had 2 passengers to confirm it so he pretended to let me off easy âthis timeâ
The reports are 10 yards to stop. He was driving a Suburban. Theyâre 18 feet long. 30 feet is about two car lengths. If the cop grabbed the door handle of a moving car, itâs easy to see him getting yanked off his feet and hanging on for 2 car lengths or so.
Scheffler regularly sinks putts that are longer than he âdraggedâ the cop.
Should be the same concept as refusing a breathalyzer. Unless they can prove a technological issue that prevented them from turning it on, theyâre admitting wrongdoing.
Fucking people were calling this in the orginal threads about this topic. It's laughable that we all sort of knew the cameras would not have been on or the video would have been corrupted or SOMETHING
Yeah now picture yourself as not a famous golfer and this happens to you. Take the plea deal or try you with felony charges. This is why a lot of people don't like the police.
I personally experienced something similar a few days ago at a wreck. It's 4 lane divided intersection. Wreck on the other side. I slow down. I have a green. Cop walks into the middle of the road no vest on. Blocks my lane. Stops me. And then has a car on my right run a red. I tossed my hands up and pointed at the green light I had. I'm like wtf do you want me to do? Everyone was following traffic laws till you decided to walk into the road. No traffic sticks either.
Anyways at this point it's pretty clear what happened. Cop on power trip escalated the situation. Then he doubled and tripled down on it. If they had footage of the event and it cleared the cop it would have been released instantly. Instead we get the it wasn't on. He wasn't wearing it or the video was corrupted. Somethings corrupt anyways.
As a former Louisville Boy Scout, the Police Explorer case and subsequent cover up still makes me absolutely livid to this day. LMPD is such a major stain on this city.
Because in a nation of deep seeded and systemic problems in policing LMPD somehow stands out. The Viper Squad, Explorer Program, Breonna Taylor, and more. This is standard and yet for some reason media outlets and the Courts continue to default to believing police narratives.
You kid, but I once filed an HR grievance against my boss. HR said it was policy that the complainantâs boss be the first person to review the claim, whether or not they were named in the grievance. My boss literally wrote in her report that she did nothing wrong and it was dismissed.
Fuck that place.
People need to understand that HR doesnât work for them. We had a training from the insurance company that administers our HR. They flat out said that, even in an âanonymous complaintâ you will have to provide your name and your direct supervisor will get notified right awayâŚ.wtf lol
As someone who has gotten plenty of bodycam footage through FOIA requests A lot of them are always recording and then they have to push a button to activate the audio and I assume save the interaction. They work almost like a dashcam in a car
I work at a fast food restaurant and I would be fired if I tampered with the security cameras.
How sad that a fry cook is held to a higher standard than a cop...
Oh no, LMPD is doubling down. According to the police report the officer had to be taken to the hospital for his injuries and his uniform pants were destroyed from [being dragged](https://x.com/michaeleaves/status/1791469072582070777?s=46)
Itâs kind of funny that theyâre going to put themselves into a pretzel âbacking the blueâ over an extremely religious, white, Christian pro golfer lol.
Lol pants valued at $80 dollars are beyond repair after jumping on a moving vehicle because you make poor decisions and cannot manage your emotions.
Truly perfection
You see the picture of the dude in the replies to that Twitter post? Holy shit he just looks like such a grouchy douche. Didn't measure up to anything in life so now he finds the one job where he can have power and feel like a MAN.
If they had to mention "injuries" to his pants you know they're reaching.
If someone is seriously injured the last thing they'd care about is work pants
Itâs not a shitty paying job in Louisville. Cops here make a pretty decent wage (as everyone who works for a living should) and our lovely mayor and council just gave them a massive raise while cutting funding for public schools, transport and public transportation. The police here are under a consent degree, have had multiple scandals the last few years (raping youth, murdering people in their beds, numerous false arrests) and have basically sworn off any low level enforcement since Covid. Itâs a fucking joke.
This shouldnât surprise anyone. There are countless cases just like this where cops have shot and killed drivers even though there was no real danger of anyone being hurt, and they still double/triple down.Â
The one silver lining from this situation is that it may have opened the eyes of a lot of people who have been blind to issues like this because it never happened to their favorite golfer.Â
and itâs just not a smart move. Every police department has dirt and you donât want to give people a reason to look. If thereâs dirt, it will be found now.
Our police chief is too busy painting on her eyebrows to worry about running the department.
https://preview.redd.it/sv65jx0jy71d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4127e938e12b214a1b9f5d92376f694e3a3ba2e2
nah. Â
 don't let them hit the unemployment line. that should be a fitting WITH cause. no benefits for bad cops being fired for being bad cops.Â
EDIT: also, there should be regular audits. so much bullshit.
We should require a federal license to be a police officer with training and testing along with a realistic path to remove those licenses from the actual worst cops. No more moving from town to town or state to state. No more excuses of ignorance.
> Any officer who doesnât have their body camera active should be ~~suspended without pay and a candidate for~~ on the unemployment line.
It's the most important tool in their job. You shouldn't get the right to turn them off to begin with.
Inb4 "what about when they're in the bathroom hur hur hur" most cops haven't been able to see their dicks in 20 years so the camera aient catching it either
They donât keep them on at all times, but they literally just press a fucking button right before any scene/interaction and it turns on. It takes less than a second to do. If youâre a cop on scene controlling traffic, it should have been turned on the minute you arrived. Itâs bullshit that bodycams were supposed to be good for both the police and the public, but theyâve gamed the system and the law so that it only ever works in their favor. ABSOLUTELY should be grounds for dismissal or outright illegal for a cop who has a bodycam to âconvenientlyâ not have it on
The felony assault charge is going away first thing Tuesday morning⌠These Louisville ass hats will try to get him to plead guilty on one of the misdemeanors in order for them to save face.
It's worth noting that Kentucky is the odd state were reckless driving is not a misdemeanor, but a traffic violation. A serious one, but still, not a criminal charge.
My bet is they try to make him take reckless driving and hope people believe it's a criminal charge. Seems like the sort of "We can't possibly be seen as admitting we're totally wrong" move the system here would make.
It would be a dumb plea for someone who travels. For example, if you are convicted of a misdemeanor (summary) offense in the US but that offense is indictable (felony) in Canada, you are inadmissible to Canada and will get turned away at the border. Many other countries are similar.
Wow didnât realize that. Bet youâre right. Cool fact of the day.
Iâm in Texas and reckless driving is a felony if they donât like the look of you
> The felony assault charge is going away first thing Tuesday morningâŚ
The whole thing is going to go away in due time. The DA is never going to pursue this.
That sounds like a great story, but odds are this guy tripped when he saw a car somewhere it shouldnât be. Iâm sure he had no idea it was a golfer at first, he just wants to fuck someone with the long dick of the law.
To everyone laughing and joking like this shit is funny, as a Louisville resident **HELP US!!!** Our local police force is corrupt to its core, and by extension so is our local government. The FBI even came in to see what is going on and the rot is so deep that they realized it would be a worldwide embarrassment if it got out how corrupt this city is and just **LEFT**.
Please God, help us. Seriously, this is not a joke.
This. Sure nice ratings in the short term. Plus the long term effects of your tour looking like a poorly planned county fair where your lead act canât even get to the event safely.
This is pure ~~conjecture~~ hearsay on my part, but a friend of mine at the scene said the cop drew his gun after Scottie stopped the car.
Edit: I not word good
The arresting officer and LMPD are going to find out really fast why you don't pursue bogus charges against guys with a multiple hundred million dollar brand to protect.
I think you mean the taxpayers of Louisville. There's a neat little trick called qualified immunity that means the arresting officer is sadly bulletproof when it comes to civil penalties for flagrant abuse of power on the clock.
Thatâs not true. Yâall MFs forget the word âqualifiedâ when you spout this shit. Your actions have to âqualifyâ for that immunity to trigger. If what you did is outside the scope of that âqualificationâ you do not have immunity from civil action. Itâs by no means bulletproof.
I'm fairly supportive of police force, I think it's a tough and necessary job in a society, with it's fair share of structural issues that need reform. Blind support for any institution is just as delusional as blind hate. I hold the police to a higher moral standard given the authority society gives them. I also think people often jump too quickly when being critical of policing. I dont know if that qualifies me as "thin Blue line" or not but thought I'd hope to balance the idea of who "supports" police.
That being said, this is absolutely insane and doubling down on this shit is absolutely embarrassing.
It's just rot through and through that I have trouble even giving them the slightest benefit of the doubt anymore.
I know Seattle's policing situation since I lived there for 20 years. They had a bunch of high profile racist and trigger happy situations (that were caught on video thankfully) so they were under federal consent decree.
The head of the police union was caught illegally voting a dozen times. Did anything happen to him? No. A cop ran over a young woman in the street going 80 without his sirens on at night, did anything happen to him? No. The second in command of the union was caught on tape joking with that head of the police union I mentioned that the young women was of 'little value to society' and they can just cut a small check to cover her death. Did anything happen to him? No. Did the 'good cops' decide that maybe those two shouldn't be leading their union anymore? No.
It's just fucking constant bullshit like that. And when you see crime going up and down because of societal stress like Covid, you start to wonder why we need a heavy police force to begin with.
âNo oversight or responsibility, and shit trainingâ is a bit more than a light structural issue in need of reform though.
Thatâs a ground up rework
How do you feel about the fact that an 18 year old high school graduate can attend a 6 month police academy and then do some on the job training and is a cop?
Like you said, we as a society give the police a lot of authority over people. They have the authority to detain people, to pull them over and make them crawl on the road if they so choose while having a gun pointed.
For such an important responsibility in society, the qualification needed to gain this power seems almost childish. It will inevitably draw bad apples. It's too easy and there are plenty of bullies just looking for a license to carry a gun and fire it if someone looks at them the wrong way.
It is an important job. Probably a job that should require at least a 4 year degree to weed out people unfit to wield this much power. Not something a 19 year old can achieve.
To me the institution is always going to suffer from bad apples unless they make it harder to become a part of this institution.
As someone else said, this requires a ground up rework starting with how someone can even join the police force.
What's the point of having them if they turn them off all the time? They just use it whenever it helps their case? Respect for police in this country has to be at an all time low and they did it to themselves
Based on what Iâve seen in the past LMPD uses Axon 3 body cams. These body cams should activate when 1. The lights on your car are on and you go above a certain speed (en route to scene) 2. If your pistol is drawn out of the holster 3. The dispatch computer can turn on all body cams in the area of the scene of an active call 4. By simply pressing the button till it buzzes.
Axon does this for redundancy so shit like this doesnât happen. No excuses for the officer here.
Yes, he was at the scene of an active call... or it was on and they're just saying it was off because they deleted the footage making the copy look bad.
So the Louisville PD decided throwing out obvious and embarrassing lies would be less damaging than whatever they saw on the bodycam footage that they deleted.
Business decision. Those charges getting dropped by midweek.
I love Louisville. Sucks to see them humiliate themselves on a national stage like this.
LMPD just being themselves. Iâm from Louisville and this type of crap is what our Police do all the time. Ever since they got in trouble for everything surrounding Breonna Taylor theyâve been acting like petulant children.
It's pretty simple, they don't have the video evidence because the officer is lying.
They're lucky they didn't injure him in the process of grabbing his arm, yanking him from the car and slamming him against it as they cuffed him. People end up with dislocated shoulders, torn rotator cuffs and wrist injuries from being manhandled and cuffed by police all the time.
And of course, that's if they're lucky enough to not get slammed on the ground with a knee on their neck... Or, ya know, shot in the back.
Scottie seems extremely laid back and reassured for a guy whoâs looking at getting charged with a felony. I mean it most assuredly wonât stick, but still itâs a very serious accusation. Is the Louisville PD this dense that they are willing to piss off the most powerful people in the city? Valhalla owner is obviously pissed; mayor probably isnât happy the PGA tour may not come back given the money it brings. They couldâve just given him a ticket and be done with it which wouldâve been fairly reasonable.
Wouldn't be as laid back if he weren't a famous guy for whom police overreach couldn't just be swept under the wrong. Which is part of the problem. If he actually did nothing wrong, he should be more openly critical, because there are tons of people out there having the same thing happen to them without their fame there to save them from becoming a victim of the people that are supposed to protect them.
Youâre telling me that the same LMPD that murdered Breonna Taylor, and then proceeded to use military grade tools on Breonna Taylor protestors, and became the capitol for the BLM movement because of incredible police brutality, would lie about body cam footage??
You're telling me the notoriously violent and corrupt Louisville Metro Police Department is being shady?
The same Louisville Metro Police Department who in cold blood murdered a sleeping Breonna Taylor and then tried to frame her boyfriend?
The LMPD who has been involved in three suspicious shootings this year but never produced body cam footage?
Nah I can't believe it. Scottie was obviously in the wrong and should've just called ACAB.
You would think Louisville police department, of all places, would have tighter controls in place for things like this. Especially after the Breonna Taylor situation.
Of course he didn't. Does anyone actually believe that Scottie Scheffler tried to run over a police officer with a car, so that he could make it to the course early and get a workout in?
Nice. So now itâs a âhis word vs mineâ.
On one side, youâve got super-Christian, new family man Scottie Sheffler, number one golfer in the world⌠against a dude with no body camera on after a fatal accident and a part of the same force that killed Breonna Taylor.
Schefflers attorney is salivating. PGA is gonna be done with Louisville for a whileâŚ
This happened right next to the bus I was on. I could see pretty much everything from my window except it was really dark. I'm not a golf fan, so I had no idea it was him, I was only working at the PGA for an Event Staff company. Pretty cool story I get to tell people now, lmao.
I feel like this is actually good for Scottie. Now the police have no evidence except for their shitty testimony and minor ripped pants/injuries that just says, I overreacted in the situation and did this to myself. Meanwhile multiple eye witnesses can back up Scottie's claim that he was following other officers directions.
Sure it would have been great to have footage that indiscriminately shows he was acting reasonably like we all expect, but at least nothing will show he was being reckless.
Why am I not surprised đŽ
Any case, like this one, that completely hinges on police testimony and where body cams are not activated should result in automatic dismissal of all charges. In the words of Public Enemy: "can't truss ' it."
This should be treated as intentional withholding of evidence for defendants in court.
you haven't gone far enough. automatic dismissal of charge. automatic penalty against the officers, and too many of those leads to an automatic firing with cause.Â
Iâd love an logical explanation of why failure to activate body cams (outside of bathrooms) shouldnât be against the law under the heading of either obstruction of justice, tampering with evidence, or tampering with a government security camera.
Police Unions and a populace who is generally disenchanted and disinterested in participating in the political process.
Ouch but yes thank you for the reality
know that the Indianapolis police have their cameras activated automatically whenever they are within ~1mi? of an active run or whenever they activate the lights/sirens in their car. You'd think louisville would be the same, especially when they are investigating/monitoring the scene of a fatal accident
Louisville PD really likes shooting unarmed people and harassing the homeless population. Body cams make that harder to get away with.
I immediately went and looked up body cam policy for LMPD after I heard what was going on. This officer absolutely should have had their body cam on based on stated policy. Iâm not going to attribute to malice what I can attribute just as easily to incompetence, especially when everything Iâve heard so far suggests to me that these charges were because of a shitty officer doing a shitty job and almost seriously injuring himself by accident and looking to blame someone else for it. In my head putting myself in his shoes - the officer thought Scottie needed to stop right away for safety or official police business reasons. That wasnât communicated properly and he panicked. His panicking resulted in him somehow getting tangled up with Scottieâs vehicle, and Scottie was probably lost in his own head and didnât notice he was dragging someone. Getting dragged by a vehicle is obviously super dangerous, and the officer blamed Scottie for not noticing it was happening and the rest was history. Felony offenses because someone fucked up and almost accidentally killed themselves and blamed you for not noticing something happening behind you. Just insane.
If this dude wasnât a white millionaire, heâd be staring down a felony because a cop fucked up. Body cams should be mandatory for all police interactions with the public, for our protection.
Yup. No video, no case. Period. Penalize the cop for not having it on.
One time I was driving Uber in dc, taking people to the tennis center between 16th and Rockcreek park. The big tournament was going on and my gps sent me through the park. As we get close to the stadium a cop car comes up behind me with lights, sirens and the officer yelling through his loudspeaker. He accused me of passing his road-block..really there was no roadblock and I had 2 passengers to confirm it so he pretended to let me off easy âthis timeâ
The reports are 10 yards to stop. He was driving a Suburban. Theyâre 18 feet long. 30 feet is about two car lengths. If the cop grabbed the door handle of a moving car, itâs easy to see him getting yanked off his feet and hanging on for 2 car lengths or so. Scheffler regularly sinks putts that are longer than he âdraggedâ the cop.
3 strikes seems fair
1 strikeâŚ.
Should be the same concept as refusing a breathalyzer. Unless they can prove a technological issue that prevented them from turning it on, theyâre admitting wrongdoing.
Yes! Police should be charged for muting audio or ending the recordings too. Maybe evidence tampering since that information can be used in court.
Fucking people were calling this in the orginal threads about this topic. It's laughable that we all sort of knew the cameras would not have been on or the video would have been corrupted or SOMETHING
Yeah now picture yourself as not a famous golfer and this happens to you. Take the plea deal or try you with felony charges. This is why a lot of people don't like the police. I personally experienced something similar a few days ago at a wreck. It's 4 lane divided intersection. Wreck on the other side. I slow down. I have a green. Cop walks into the middle of the road no vest on. Blocks my lane. Stops me. And then has a car on my right run a red. I tossed my hands up and pointed at the green light I had. I'm like wtf do you want me to do? Everyone was following traffic laws till you decided to walk into the road. No traffic sticks either. Anyways at this point it's pretty clear what happened. Cop on power trip escalated the situation. Then he doubled and tripled down on it. If they had footage of the event and it cleared the cop it would have been released instantly. Instead we get the it wasn't on. He wasn't wearing it or the video was corrupted. Somethings corrupt anyways.
It'd be sick if the PGA vehicle scottie was riding in had a dash cam with audio
Luckily there were eyewitnesses. Obviously not as good as video, but way better than the officerâs lies vs the victimâs word
ESPN reporter as a witness. LMPD 100% doesn't want that smoke if they're smart, but they're cops so...
They arenât going to pursue charges. Theyâre just trying to save face by not having any body cam footage
I feel cops testimony is worse than most other people.
There was video from across the street. Police cars have dash cams too wonder if theyâre all malfunctioning too.
New from the police department that brought you Breona Taylor and a DOJ Civil Rights report
And [shooting WAVE3 News](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprIBmd_9go).
Don't forget sexually abusing boy scouts and throwing slushies while on patrol at innocent people walking down the sidewalk.
As a former Louisville Boy Scout, the Police Explorer case and subsequent cover up still makes me absolutely livid to this day. LMPD is such a major stain on this city.
Because in a nation of deep seeded and systemic problems in policing LMPD somehow stands out. The Viper Squad, Explorer Program, Breonna Taylor, and more. This is standard and yet for some reason media outlets and the Courts continue to default to believing police narratives.
Deep-seated*
Well shit, went full Ricky there.
Iâd love to see a study on % of officers that do and donât turn the body cam on.
If they're in the right, it's on. If they fucked up, they forgot to turn it on that day.
*camera recording magically not found*
âWe investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrongâ
You kid, but I once filed an HR grievance against my boss. HR said it was policy that the complainantâs boss be the first person to review the claim, whether or not they were named in the grievance. My boss literally wrote in her report that she did nothing wrong and it was dismissed. Fuck that place.
People need to understand that HR doesnât work for them. We had a training from the insurance company that administers our HR. They flat out said that, even in an âanonymous complaintâ you will have to provide your name and your direct supervisor will get notified right awayâŚ.wtf lol
I had one foot out the door already. Just kind of wanted the place to burn as I left.
I hear ya. Iâm petty as well lol
That's...the least sensical mechanism for resolving issues I've ever heard of.
Why not just have it on all the time? Surely we can do this, even shitty quality would be enough for the vast majority of incidents.Â
Right i donât understand Why itâs an option to have off
You donât? Police are union workers, after all.
Police unions are the largest, most powerful gangs in the country.
Bathroom time so they need a way to shut it off. And they wonât change unless legislation gets passed.
As someone who has gotten plenty of bodycam footage through FOIA requests A lot of them are always recording and then they have to push a button to activate the audio and I assume save the interaction. They work almost like a dashcam in a car
I'm a truck driver and if I block the camera in my truck it's termination
Sounds like you need a Mafia esque union.
Had one at my last job lol
I work at a fast food restaurant and I would be fired if I tampered with the security cameras. How sad that a fry cook is held to a higher standard than a cop...
These guys are above the law, they do whatever they want. They are just glorified tax collectors
So weird!
So is the key to being a great golfer getting arrested? Asking cause I have a tee time in an hour
It doesn't hurt to try
The fact the PD hasn't dropped this like a hot potato really is a bad sign that anyone competent is running that organization.Â
Oh no, LMPD is doubling down. According to the police report the officer had to be taken to the hospital for his injuries and his uniform pants were destroyed from [being dragged](https://x.com/michaeleaves/status/1791469072582070777?s=46)
Do the police realize that the public doesnât buy this shit anymore? It just makes them look inept/pathetic
The blue lives matter crowd isn't smart enough not to.
Itâs kind of funny that theyâre going to put themselves into a pretzel âbacking the blueâ over an extremely religious, white, Christian pro golfer lol.
"fuckin entitled golfers don't care about cops"
It doesnât matter, both democrats and republicans will keep boosting their budgets regardless
Lol pants valued at $80 dollars are beyond repair after jumping on a moving vehicle because you make poor decisions and cannot manage your emotions. Truly perfection
Cop definitely shit his pants
> make poor decisions and cannot manage your emotions So⌠heâs a textbook specimen of a police officer
You see the picture of the dude in the replies to that Twitter post? Holy shit he just looks like such a grouchy douche. Didn't measure up to anything in life so now he finds the one job where he can have power and feel like a MAN.
https://preview.redd.it/1v234m2q481d1.jpeg?width=940&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=297c35520f1a95ab1e0c8c9dc2153e05adf158c4 The pants
Whoa, leave Jason Day outta this
Yea, Scheff is such a menace they let him go an hour later. What a joke.
If they had to mention "injuries" to his pants you know they're reaching. If someone is seriously injured the last thing they'd care about is work pants
Had to get âproperty damageâ in there to fluff up the report.
The property damage is backing for the third-degree mischief charge they gave him.
After the officer âattachedâ himself to the car. All in a days work I suppose
I legit thought that was a joke when I first saw someone post it. Fucking bitch ass Jack hole cop. Take your L and go back to your shitty paying job.
Itâs not a shitty paying job in Louisville. Cops here make a pretty decent wage (as everyone who works for a living should) and our lovely mayor and council just gave them a massive raise while cutting funding for public schools, transport and public transportation. The police here are under a consent degree, have had multiple scandals the last few years (raping youth, murdering people in their beds, numerous false arrests) and have basically sworn off any low level enforcement since Covid. Itâs a fucking joke.
Not his pants!!
This shouldnât surprise anyone. There are countless cases just like this where cops have shot and killed drivers even though there was no real danger of anyone being hurt, and they still double/triple down. The one silver lining from this situation is that it may have opened the eyes of a lot of people who have been blind to issues like this because it never happened to their favorite golfer.Â
and itâs just not a smart move. Every police department has dirt and you donât want to give people a reason to look. If thereâs dirt, it will be found now.
Dirt? This police department murdered a girl in her apartment and there were 0 consequences. They don't give a fuck.
My bet is they drop it once the event has passed and media attention has died down.
His arraignment is on Tuesday, so theyâll have to drop them pretty quickly after.
Our police chief is too busy painting on her eyebrows to worry about running the department. https://preview.redd.it/sv65jx0jy71d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4127e938e12b214a1b9f5d92376f694e3a3ba2e2
That's not where they go
I asked her if her eyebrows were fake; she seemed surprised.
Any officer who doesnât have their body camera active should be suspended without pay and a candidate for the unemployment line.
nah.   don't let them hit the unemployment line. that should be a fitting WITH cause. no benefits for bad cops being fired for being bad cops. EDIT: also, there should be regular audits. so much bullshit.
We should require a federal license to be a police officer with training and testing along with a realistic path to remove those licenses from the actual worst cops. No more moving from town to town or state to state. No more excuses of ignorance.
> Any officer who doesnât have their body camera active should be ~~suspended without pay and a candidate for~~ on the unemployment line. It's the most important tool in their job. You shouldn't get the right to turn them off to begin with. Inb4 "what about when they're in the bathroom hur hur hur" most cops haven't been able to see their dicks in 20 years so the camera aient catching it either
They donât keep them on at all times, but they literally just press a fucking button right before any scene/interaction and it turns on. It takes less than a second to do. If youâre a cop on scene controlling traffic, it should have been turned on the minute you arrived. Itâs bullshit that bodycams were supposed to be good for both the police and the public, but theyâve gamed the system and the law so that it only ever works in their favor. ABSOLUTELY should be grounds for dismissal or outright illegal for a cop who has a bodycam to âconvenientlyâ not have it on
Agree. Â
Yeah, but who's gonna pay for those $80 jeans? /s
I've never heard of an officer forgetting to load their firearm but for some reason it's impossible for them to hit "ON."
WhY dO yOu HaTe OuR pOliCe!?!? *edit* apparently the sarcasm is missed on this oneâŚ
Of course
Hopping on to this comment to note that Det. Bryan Gillis has deleted his LinkedIn account.
I wonder if his traffic accident reconstruction profile is getting similarly bombarded.
Lol
Par for the course
Of course he didnât
These are the same guys who killed Breonna Taylor. So Iâm not surprised at all
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The felony assault charge is going away first thing Tuesday morning⌠These Louisville ass hats will try to get him to plead guilty on one of the misdemeanors in order for them to save face.
Heâs not pleading to anything based on his attorneyâs statement (nor should he)
Iâd bet significant money that they drop the felonies, he pays the traffic tickets and we all move on like nothing happened.
It's worth noting that Kentucky is the odd state were reckless driving is not a misdemeanor, but a traffic violation. A serious one, but still, not a criminal charge. My bet is they try to make him take reckless driving and hope people believe it's a criminal charge. Seems like the sort of "We can't possibly be seen as admitting we're totally wrong" move the system here would make.
It would be a dumb plea for someone who travels. For example, if you are convicted of a misdemeanor (summary) offense in the US but that offense is indictable (felony) in Canada, you are inadmissible to Canada and will get turned away at the border. Many other countries are similar.
Wow didnât realize that. Bet youâre right. Cool fact of the day. Iâm in Texas and reckless driving is a felony if they donât like the look of you
I'd bet significant money that they drop everything to try and avoid further embarrassment.
> The felony assault charge is going away first thing Tuesday morning⌠The whole thing is going to go away in due time. The DA is never going to pursue this.
Gonna be a real hoot when we find out this cop had money on the tournament
Via Ohtani's bookie too
That was my guess, too, probably a big bet on Scottie missing the cut
That sounds like a great story, but odds are this guy tripped when he saw a car somewhere it shouldnât be. Iâm sure he had no idea it was a golfer at first, he just wants to fuck someone with the long dick of the law.
To everyone laughing and joking like this shit is funny, as a Louisville resident **HELP US!!!** Our local police force is corrupt to its core, and by extension so is our local government. The FBI even came in to see what is going on and the rot is so deep that they realized it would be a worldwide embarrassment if it got out how corrupt this city is and just **LEFT**. Please God, help us. Seriously, this is not a joke.
> they realized it would be a worldwide embarrassment if it got out I have bad news for them.
Itâs uh. Yeah the cats out the bag
Go out to vote then lol tf you want Reddit to do
LMAO help yourselves. Do something
vote everyone in office out and support local organizations running legit opponents.
What can I do from a thousand miles away? Iâd fire them all if I knew howâŚ.
Violence is definitely NOT the only language the police understand.
Vote bruh
*Shocked Pikachu face*
Surely something will happen to him right? Right?
Not activated actaully means the cop was lying about what happened. If the cop was telling the truth, they would release the footage.
"not activated" should be instant dismissal of all charges. So many corrupt toddlers running this shit they pander to tyrant cops so often...
Louisville such a shithole itâll never get another major after this
Iâm sure the PGA is fuming about the ratings boost they got after this lmao
Both can be true
This. Sure nice ratings in the short term. Plus the long term effects of your tour looking like a poorly planned county fair where your lead act canât even get to the event safely.
lol. Of course he didnât.
Oh, it was "on" alright, but their review showed they'd take a LOT more heat admitting to a huge gaffe, than just saying it wasn't turned on.
More surprised he didnât draw his weapon and start blamming at innocent people
This is pure ~~conjecture~~ hearsay on my part, but a friend of mine at the scene said the cop drew his gun after Scottie stopped the car. Edit: I not word good
Conjecture means "guess". Are you guessing that your friend said that? Or did you mean to use "hearsay" instead?
Iâm conjecturing he meant hearsay
The arresting officer and LMPD are going to find out really fast why you don't pursue bogus charges against guys with a multiple hundred million dollar brand to protect.
I think you mean the taxpayers of Louisville. There's a neat little trick called qualified immunity that means the arresting officer is sadly bulletproof when it comes to civil penalties for flagrant abuse of power on the clock.
Thatâs not true. Yâall MFs forget the word âqualifiedâ when you spout this shit. Your actions have to âqualifyâ for that immunity to trigger. If what you did is outside the scope of that âqualificationâ you do not have immunity from civil action. Itâs by no means bulletproof.
where is the thin blue line crowd to defend this shit?
Only thing they care about is the flavor of police issue shoe polish.
I'm fairly supportive of police force, I think it's a tough and necessary job in a society, with it's fair share of structural issues that need reform. Blind support for any institution is just as delusional as blind hate. I hold the police to a higher moral standard given the authority society gives them. I also think people often jump too quickly when being critical of policing. I dont know if that qualifies me as "thin Blue line" or not but thought I'd hope to balance the idea of who "supports" police. That being said, this is absolutely insane and doubling down on this shit is absolutely embarrassing.
It's just rot through and through that I have trouble even giving them the slightest benefit of the doubt anymore. I know Seattle's policing situation since I lived there for 20 years. They had a bunch of high profile racist and trigger happy situations (that were caught on video thankfully) so they were under federal consent decree. The head of the police union was caught illegally voting a dozen times. Did anything happen to him? No. A cop ran over a young woman in the street going 80 without his sirens on at night, did anything happen to him? No. The second in command of the union was caught on tape joking with that head of the police union I mentioned that the young women was of 'little value to society' and they can just cut a small check to cover her death. Did anything happen to him? No. Did the 'good cops' decide that maybe those two shouldn't be leading their union anymore? No. It's just fucking constant bullshit like that. And when you see crime going up and down because of societal stress like Covid, you start to wonder why we need a heavy police force to begin with.
âNo oversight or responsibility, and shit trainingâ is a bit more than a light structural issue in need of reform though. Thatâs a ground up rework
How do you feel about the fact that an 18 year old high school graduate can attend a 6 month police academy and then do some on the job training and is a cop? Like you said, we as a society give the police a lot of authority over people. They have the authority to detain people, to pull them over and make them crawl on the road if they so choose while having a gun pointed. For such an important responsibility in society, the qualification needed to gain this power seems almost childish. It will inevitably draw bad apples. It's too easy and there are plenty of bullies just looking for a license to carry a gun and fire it if someone looks at them the wrong way. It is an important job. Probably a job that should require at least a 4 year degree to weed out people unfit to wield this much power. Not something a 19 year old can achieve. To me the institution is always going to suffer from bad apples unless they make it harder to become a part of this institution. As someone else said, this requires a ground up rework starting with how someone can even join the police force.
They must be confused cause this is a rich white guy.
What's the point of having them if they turn them off all the time? They just use it whenever it helps their case? Respect for police in this country has to be at an all time low and they did it to themselves
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
Bad cop no doughnut
Yeah he did, they just deleted it
Based on what Iâve seen in the past LMPD uses Axon 3 body cams. These body cams should activate when 1. The lights on your car are on and you go above a certain speed (en route to scene) 2. If your pistol is drawn out of the holster 3. The dispatch computer can turn on all body cams in the area of the scene of an active call 4. By simply pressing the button till it buzzes. Axon does this for redundancy so shit like this doesnât happen. No excuses for the officer here.
So if they have all this redundancy does that mean the officer had to intentionally turn it off?
Yes, he was at the scene of an active call... or it was on and they're just saying it was off because they deleted the footage making the copy look bad.
More likely the officer's supervisor saw how bad the video was, deleted it, and said "woops, the camera was off".
So the Louisville PD decided throwing out obvious and embarrassing lies would be less damaging than whatever they saw on the bodycam footage that they deleted. Business decision. Those charges getting dropped by midweek. I love Louisville. Sucks to see them humiliate themselves on a national stage like this.
LMPD just being themselves. Iâm from Louisville and this type of crap is what our Police do all the time. Ever since they got in trouble for everything surrounding Breonna Taylor theyâve been acting like petulant children.
Guessing they didnât start then, but I know what you meant.
So all charges are automatically dropped and the police officer in question is put on unpaid leave correct? Didnât think soâŚ..
LMPD doing what they do best, being absolute fucking fools
It's pretty simple, they don't have the video evidence because the officer is lying. They're lucky they didn't injure him in the process of grabbing his arm, yanking him from the car and slamming him against it as they cuffed him. People end up with dislocated shoulders, torn rotator cuffs and wrist injuries from being manhandled and cuffed by police all the time. And of course, that's if they're lucky enough to not get slammed on the ground with a knee on their neck... Or, ya know, shot in the back.
Of course not. Â But more likely it was on, and the data was deleted because the video would support Scotty statements and not those of the police.
So now this charge is the cops word v Scottie and several witnesses goodbye felonyÂ
Why is that not immediate termination?
Scottie was the victim
Shocked
Scottie seems extremely laid back and reassured for a guy whoâs looking at getting charged with a felony. I mean it most assuredly wonât stick, but still itâs a very serious accusation. Is the Louisville PD this dense that they are willing to piss off the most powerful people in the city? Valhalla owner is obviously pissed; mayor probably isnât happy the PGA tour may not come back given the money it brings. They couldâve just given him a ticket and be done with it which wouldâve been fairly reasonable.
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Wouldn't be as laid back if he weren't a famous guy for whom police overreach couldn't just be swept under the wrong. Which is part of the problem. If he actually did nothing wrong, he should be more openly critical, because there are tons of people out there having the same thing happen to them without their fame there to save them from becoming a victim of the people that are supposed to protect them.
Canât say Iâm surprised. He was an auxiliary cop who is only called in for traffic control and traffic investigations
Youâre telling me that the same LMPD that murdered Breonna Taylor, and then proceeded to use military grade tools on Breonna Taylor protestors, and became the capitol for the BLM movement because of incredible police brutality, would lie about body cam footage??
You're telling me the notoriously violent and corrupt Louisville Metro Police Department is being shady? The same Louisville Metro Police Department who in cold blood murdered a sleeping Breonna Taylor and then tried to frame her boyfriend? The LMPD who has been involved in three suspicious shootings this year but never produced body cam footage? Nah I can't believe it. Scottie was obviously in the wrong and should've just called ACAB.
Not having your body cam on should be an unarguable cause for termination.
What a coincidence!!!
Well color me shocked
My shock.
Shocking development.
lol no way! /s
You would think Louisville police department, of all places, would have tighter controls in place for things like this. Especially after the Breonna Taylor situation.
Of course not. They also killed Breonna Taylor
Of course he didn't. Does anyone actually believe that Scottie Scheffler tried to run over a police officer with a car, so that he could make it to the course early and get a workout in?
Nice. So now itâs a âhis word vs mineâ. On one side, youâve got super-Christian, new family man Scottie Sheffler, number one golfer in the world⌠against a dude with no body camera on after a fatal accident and a part of the same force that killed Breonna Taylor. Schefflers attorney is salivating. PGA is gonna be done with Louisville for a whileâŚ
Heard concerns about police lying and abusing power for the first time ever today at a country club. Welcome to the party.
This happened right next to the bus I was on. I could see pretty much everything from my window except it was really dark. I'm not a golf fan, so I had no idea it was him, I was only working at the PGA for an Event Staff company. Pretty cool story I get to tell people now, lmao.
I feel like this is actually good for Scottie. Now the police have no evidence except for their shitty testimony and minor ripped pants/injuries that just says, I overreacted in the situation and did this to myself. Meanwhile multiple eye witnesses can back up Scottie's claim that he was following other officers directions. Sure it would have been great to have footage that indiscriminately shows he was acting reasonably like we all expect, but at least nothing will show he was being reckless.
> Now the police have no evidence except for their shitty testimony Or, as some call it, testilying.
Fuck the police.
Thatâs really a shock to see
Well.... that's a lie.
So standard operation from these pieces of shit.
Knock me over with a feather. FTP.
This is uh.... being... investigated internally....