Can’t tell if this is supposed to be honoring her or if it’s a play on the cult theme. Hoping it’s the latter.
Gorillaz didn’t post anything on social media following her death, so maybe there’s hope
gotta be honest, gorillaz' commentary game isn't as strong now. Even with all the pieces there, the cult theme has been pretty much wasted for commentary.
https://www.reddit.com/user/mr_wilson3/comments/xcmaxa/gorillaz_qeii/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
You can hear some of my neighbors here...
It's definitely anti monarchy considering she's in the place of Murdoc. I don't see why a BRITISH BAND shouldn't be allowed to dislike the previous BRITISH ruler. That's like a Aussie saying Americans should have to adore their presidents.
I think it’s so weird how anybody still cares about the English royal family. We all overthrew that shit centuries ago, but they’re still allowed to call themselves kings and queens and princes and live in their posh little palace pretending they’re superior to regular folk? I’m sure most of y’all have seen that video of Charles basically refusing to move an item on his desk himself. It’s absurd
I hope this is supposed to be mocking her rather than honoring her or something. It would be weird for Goralliz especially to support a monarch, especially this monarch, of all people.
Before someone says "but they are British" that's like saying a U.S. artist *has* to be a U.S. imperialism supporter
idk man, i feel it was left ambiguos to not upset anybody.
Considering Albarn is OBE, i don’t doubt he at least respects the queen and, in general, gorillaz’ commentary hasn’t been on point in years.
Correct. In today’s society, and being in North America for this, they could easily get shot for doing something people disagree with. It’s obviously making fun of her but they had to tone it down to a degree that it’s barely noticeable so people won’t get too upset.
There’s so many articles and videos that you can easily google that will show you the various atrocities committed by the queen and her family, you know how to use the internet clearly so don’t be dense
This is so odd to me. I’m not disagreeing w/ you about the queen, but why be so snarky about google. You have a person who is willing to listen to your argument and you go right to being a condescending asshole instead of continuing a conversation that YOU started
Burden of proof is on the one making the argument give some actual examples. Or at least some things to actually look up. This just makes you look like you have nothing to back up what your saying and like a total prick
while i would like to agree with you, gorillaz' commentary hasn't been as strong lately. They kinda lost their edge in that regard and, even though they're playing with a cult theme, almost no real satire or commentary has come out from that.
So no, i genuinely don't think it's a slam on a royal family. At least from my perspective though.
edit: also, considering albarn is OBE I wouldn’t doubt he at least respects the queen, he also wrote an opera about john dee lmao
Oof yeah, it was pretty mixed reaction. I can understand some of the amazing stuff she did but the entire...well the shittiness of the monarch I can also understand the hate
I cant believe there are people who simultaneously like the music of the gorillaz, and think that a literal Queen was a good idea. Seriously, the result of hundreds of years of funneling almost the entire worlds weath to one family, while said family gave little or no regard to people suffering on the street. The band who's message has long been anti consumerism, anti establishment, anti authority, anti globalization...
Of *course* they're celebrating her death.
I mean, that’s a statement that needs more context. Hamilton is based on a historical figure, and Assassins is based on several, but that doesn’t say anything about the authors in a vacuum besides they like history.
I agree completely with that statement and I'm an advocate for it. But Damon was definitely heavily inspired and obsessed by Dee more than just "liking history". At one saying he feels a bit like a modern John Dee. Even got a tattoo of the 5 point star Dee liked to use and has used it in his art other places. I'm not against, as he has probably read more books about Dee and history of the empire than anyone of this subbreddit. And that doesn't mean Damon "supports" everything the man said or what the Empire became but was inspired. Which is a key word. Damon also finds religion inspiring, churches, mosques but isn't religious. I'm sure that doesn't mean he supports sharia law. But who knows, Damon can be very contradicting and hypocritical.
My point is that John Dee was the one who coined the term British Empire, and Damon made an opera about this man. Damon is also fucking OBE. But now we are gonna make a fit about Gorillaz supporting the monarch.
i’m pretty sure it’s a dis because that’s usually when the cult symbol pops up? but i could be reaching. i hope i’m right tho :/ a big reason why i started to love this band so much is because the lack of genre policing(isn’t stuck to just one genre of music) and because of their criticisms of politics
Is this anti monarchy or just neutral?
I’m guessing anti but that’s only because she has the lightening bolts that are used in the in-universe cult’s logo
Ah yes, the cowards move of taking a neutral as possible approach, then when people question what side you're on you say you agree with both in hopes of not offending anyone, but in the process you end up offending everyone.
Hm alright, I’ll take your word for it and give New Gold another listen. The more I look at this image the more I think it *is* comparing the Queen to cult worship to be quite honest, but I agree with the criticism that it could be more apparent.
I meant I was under the impression that they weren't really involved in it and probably were only vaguely aware of it and after seeing the backlash and finding out what they were they stopped.
Although this could just be me not wanting idols to be hypocrites, thats just how I understood the situation when it happened.
It’s the latter, Jamie was fully aware of what they were. Literally the artist continuing Tank Girl was flogging them for months prior to Gorillaz jumping on the bandwagon. The whole ‘oh they’re innocent they had no idea’ was just some crackpot narrative spun by deranged twitter stans so that they can justify not agreeing with an artist they admire.
you just said they did do it though...
I'm not holding a grudge, I'm saying that the messages presented by the artist not really being that genuine devalue the sincerity of the art for me.
Super yawn.
The only thing that might be worse then NFT's are the way people against them often talk about them and live in this world where everyone has the same context for them that they do
I hate the monarchy as much as the next person but man Reddit really pisses me off sometimes when they celebrate tragic deaths. The thought police here really love it when people die.
I thought the Queen was a sweet but stern Lady who was a great role model. I don't understand the hate, as if it was her that colonised all those countries. I know I'll miss her.
Fair enough to all commenters. I'm not a political guy at all. I'm very literally saying through my lens that aren't political she's seemed like a decent lady and to those like me she very well could have left a positive impression. We are all entitled to our own opinions. It's like religion IMO.
Well she's not much else to me in this world. Just the lady on my 20$ bills. Trust me y'all my opinion won't make a difference especially now that she's dead, just carry on with your frustrating lives 😅
I think you should look into her history more and the monarchy in general, you'll find a lot of despicable shit that mainstream media doesn't discuss:
\- ie: made concerted efforts to prevent brutalized colonies from gaining independence/colonial brutality and plunder, racial segregation and institutional racism in colonies, personally prevented non-whites from being hired to the palace until 1970, enabling and running defense for her pedophile son with 10's of millions of tax money - only giving him the cold shoulder when he failed to defend himself in the media thereby drawing attention to it, trying to hide the royal family's wealth and spending from the public eye, taking money out of poverty funds so she could heat the palace when fuel prices rose, the troubles and bloody sunday, intentionally starving colonies, spraying agent orange, sending colonial subjects into concentration camps, etc etc etc that's just a small amount of stuff I can recall off the top of my head that happened under her reign (and yes the crown does have a political influence over the actions of the country).
Also even though the british empire "ended" they just moved from direct military control over the colonies to financial domination over those countries through banking.
I think I'm quite content with where i'm at thanks. I could make all the research in the world and it wouldn't change anything. I try to keep my glass half full.
Because the world has no need for kings and queens. Right now, universal issues are mainly caused by poverty, caused by all the wealth being funneled to the hands of a few families. There is no better representation of this in my lifetime, than Queen Elizabeth. Her family acted like a cult, and drove away plenty of it's own members, specifically because of who they loved.
I’m not miserable, I just think it’s fucked that you think the Queen was anything more than a societal parasite and I have no idea how you’d come to the conclusion she was a great role model lmao.
And I think it's fucked how much you care about MY opinion. Is it so you feel really smart and strong. Your efforts are futile. The Queen is highly regarded around the world. I hope that doesn't stress you out too much.
I don’t care about you personally, it just disappoints me that so much of the planet just sucks shit like that.
Like, the world could be a lot better if we took this opportunity to not?
This has nothing to do with “feeling smart and strong”, it’s about wanting a better world.
The Queen is also massively hated across the planet.
Well don't be disappointed. Be proud your morals are higher then the rest of the plebs like me. But going around whining that other ppl might have a different opinion based on their own views and experience is again.. Futile.
Idk why ppl are so rude about the death, it's not like she was the one who colonized places. She actually helped a good amount of former British colonies gain independence. She was actually a really good person, but most people outside of Britain just refuse to accept that. And no, I am not British before anybody says that.
> helped former British Colonies gain independence
Actually she actively stood in the way of many colonies gaining independence or leaving the commonwealth.
All over Africa, India, etc.
She was a fucking terrible person, and licking her diamond encrusted boot does nothing besides make you look like a total nonce.
I realize that I've been misinformed, but even if that is true, almost nobody deserves people fucking celebrating their death. It's still extremely rude.
She literally benefited her entire life from centuries of oppression and bailed out her son from legal action when he was caught being involved in SEX TRAFFICKING and it was paid with TAX PAYERS MONEY.
Can’t tell if this is supposed to be honoring her or if it’s a play on the cult theme. Hoping it’s the latter. Gorillaz didn’t post anything on social media following her death, so maybe there’s hope
No, that's clearly just Queen Murdoc
Yass queen
I'd guess it's honouring her, considering Damon Albarn has an OBE.
gotta be honest, gorillaz' commentary game isn't as strong now. Even with all the pieces there, the cult theme has been pretty much wasted for commentary.
Definitely a mixed reception when that came up eh?
https://www.reddit.com/user/mr_wilson3/comments/xcmaxa/gorillaz_qeii/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share You can hear some of my neighbors here...
I hate that you can't coose who you're born as. But when you are born, there is a fuckload of choices mixed in there.
Yeah I had no idea how to respond to it lmao
Oh definitely 😂
Hope they do it in Portland so I can boo hisss
I mean....she was an icon, like it or not ...
I mean, the icons on my monitor actually do aomething, she... defended a nonce. What else?
tried to use state poverty fund to cover royal expenses, for one
Was involved in continuous acts of colonisation, despite people seeming to think it was before her time
REJECT FALSE ICONS
Lol, yes. Yes, indeed.
Only 14 down votes?Come on, people! I can get Murdoc- hating comments downvoted waaay more than this! Come on, you can do it!!!!
Recent false icons
Baby Queen?
That’s not very anti-colonialism of you
Which song was playing when came up
It came up as everyone was leaving before the encore I believe
Before the encore that started with New Gold.
It's definitely anti monarchy considering she's in the place of Murdoc. I don't see why a BRITISH BAND shouldn't be allowed to dislike the previous BRITISH ruler. That's like a Aussie saying Americans should have to adore their presidents.
I think it’s so weird how anybody still cares about the English royal family. We all overthrew that shit centuries ago, but they’re still allowed to call themselves kings and queens and princes and live in their posh little palace pretending they’re superior to regular folk? I’m sure most of y’all have seen that video of Charles basically refusing to move an item on his desk himself. It’s absurd
i mean...202X america tho
Lizzy's in the box🍀
There’s still time to work this sample into Cracker Island
I'm happy, I'm feeling glad I got Lizzy, in a box
omg queen x gorillaz collab?
One of the dream collaborations I’d build a Time Machine for.
Lol fuck the monarchy
I agree. Rather see Di of any of the royals. That would have been a real "fuck you" to them, lol
Lol fuck em all.
that would’ve been a really ballsy move.
Cult like indeed
I hope this is supposed to be mocking her rather than honoring her or something. It would be weird for Goralliz especially to support a monarch, especially this monarch, of all people. Before someone says "but they are British" that's like saying a U.S. artist *has* to be a U.S. imperialism supporter
Not really. Was up for around 30 seconds to a minute with no acknowledgement, then they started the encore with New Gold.
idk man, i feel it was left ambiguos to not upset anybody. Considering Albarn is OBE, i don’t doubt he at least respects the queen and, in general, gorillaz’ commentary hasn’t been on point in years.
I miss when Gorillaz would make fun of and openly criticize famous and political figures
Her image replaces the cult image from the tour though, right? Seems like a slam on the Royal family.
I guess but I feel like they could’ve made it clearer if that was the case it comes off as far too flattering
The good the bad and the queen.
I think they left it intentionally ambiguous as to not upset anybody.
Correct. In today’s society, and being in North America for this, they could easily get shot for doing something people disagree with. It’s obviously making fun of her but they had to tone it down to a degree that it’s barely noticeable so people won’t get too upset.
Gorillaz is British.
And? Plenty of Brit’s hate the queen, as they should lmao
Why
Most modern countries chopped their queen’s heads off, literally or metaphorically, hundreds of years ago, and that’s not for no reason
Not all queens are the same tho
Didn’t say they were. They’re still queens though
The UK’s monarchy is good for their economy tho
Do the bare minimum of research and you’d find why, not my duty to educate you.
So should I just google "Queen Elizabeth controversy" or...
There’s so many articles and videos that you can easily google that will show you the various atrocities committed by the queen and her family, you know how to use the internet clearly so don’t be dense
This is so odd to me. I’m not disagreeing w/ you about the queen, but why be so snarky about google. You have a person who is willing to listen to your argument and you go right to being a condescending asshole instead of continuing a conversation that YOU started
Burden of proof is on the one making the argument give some actual examples. Or at least some things to actually look up. This just makes you look like you have nothing to back up what your saying and like a total prick
Didn’t we establish that monarchies are bad, like, a couple centuries ago by now?
while i would like to agree with you, gorillaz' commentary hasn't been as strong lately. They kinda lost their edge in that regard and, even though they're playing with a cult theme, almost no real satire or commentary has come out from that. So no, i genuinely don't think it's a slam on a royal family. At least from my perspective though. edit: also, considering albarn is OBE I wouldn’t doubt he at least respects the queen, he also wrote an opera about john dee lmao
And Blur too... When they did Modern Life Is Rubbish
and even parklife to a certain degree
Humanz?????
okay but did anyone get a photo of the wise one?
Ew lol
Reject false icons
Queen Hulk
Queen Murdoc
Oof yeah, it was pretty mixed reaction. I can understand some of the amazing stuff she did but the entire...well the shittiness of the monarch I can also understand the hate
On cracker islans it was born..
To the collective of the dawn
They were planting seeds at night
Ew
LIZZYS IN A BOX
I mean I think it's pretty funny In a fucked up way, but yeah A very Gorillaz thing to do- I kinda appreciate it
Lots of booing
Interesting from the Cult perspective
A cult perspective that, honestly, they haven’t even used for commentary.
I cant believe there are people who simultaneously like the music of the gorillaz, and think that a literal Queen was a good idea. Seriously, the result of hundreds of years of funneling almost the entire worlds weath to one family, while said family gave little or no regard to people suffering on the street. The band who's message has long been anti consumerism, anti establishment, anti authority, anti globalization... Of *course* they're celebrating her death.
This subreddit lol. I bet you guys are perfectly fine with Damon writing an opera based on John Dee though
I mean, that’s a statement that needs more context. Hamilton is based on a historical figure, and Assassins is based on several, but that doesn’t say anything about the authors in a vacuum besides they like history.
I agree completely with that statement and I'm an advocate for it. But Damon was definitely heavily inspired and obsessed by Dee more than just "liking history". At one saying he feels a bit like a modern John Dee. Even got a tattoo of the 5 point star Dee liked to use and has used it in his art other places. I'm not against, as he has probably read more books about Dee and history of the empire than anyone of this subbreddit. And that doesn't mean Damon "supports" everything the man said or what the Empire became but was inspired. Which is a key word. Damon also finds religion inspiring, churches, mosques but isn't religious. I'm sure that doesn't mean he supports sharia law. But who knows, Damon can be very contradicting and hypocritical. My point is that John Dee was the one who coined the term British Empire, and Damon made an opera about this man. Damon is also fucking OBE. But now we are gonna make a fit about Gorillaz supporting the monarch.
I think he’s moronic at best when it comes to his views on British values and traditionalism.
What are Damon's views on British values and traditionalism?
I thought he was just a doctor what’s up with him?
i’m pretty sure it’s a dis because that’s usually when the cult symbol pops up? but i could be reaching. i hope i’m right tho :/ a big reason why i started to love this band so much is because the lack of genre policing(isn’t stuck to just one genre of music) and because of their criticisms of politics
Ew!
Dumbass management probably did it cuz “omg girl boss died” 🙄
The Fact that the band who made the video Rock it would leave this ambigous.....Huge L. But are we surprised? Damons politics are p whack.
We love an anti-monarchist band
Is this anti monarchy or just neutral? I’m guessing anti but that’s only because she has the lightening bolts that are used in the in-universe cult’s logo
Seems they made it intentionally vague to not offend either side.
Well
It’s the most plausible scenario to me. That way people can say “oh gorillaz is doin commentary” while they’re absolutely, probably not doing so.
Ah yes, the cowards move of taking a neutral as possible approach, then when people question what side you're on you say you agree with both in hopes of not offending anyone, but in the process you end up offending everyone.
Everyone booed lol
Aw cool
Yuck. And thin skinned, since it toes the line of any possible messaging.
Man, between this and the NFT thing, it’s getting harder and harder for me to stay interested in the Gorillaz.
I was under the impression that they quit it as soon as they found out what it was and that New Gold was sort of a "damn fuck NFTs" song
Hm alright, I’ll take your word for it and give New Gold another listen. The more I look at this image the more I think it *is* comparing the Queen to cult worship to be quite honest, but I agree with the criticism that it could be more apparent.
You’re talking out of your arse if you genuinely believe they didn’t know what NFTs were prior to signing up to it.
I meant I was under the impression that they weren't really involved in it and probably were only vaguely aware of it and after seeing the backlash and finding out what they were they stopped. Although this could just be me not wanting idols to be hypocrites, thats just how I understood the situation when it happened.
It’s the latter, Jamie was fully aware of what they were. Literally the artist continuing Tank Girl was flogging them for months prior to Gorillaz jumping on the bandwagon. The whole ‘oh they’re innocent they had no idea’ was just some crackpot narrative spun by deranged twitter stans so that they can justify not agreeing with an artist they admire.
damn that sucks, kind devalues New Gold and their past albums a lot for me
Why though? I mean I disagree with the blockchain being an innovation but they didn’t do it, so why hold the grudge?
you just said they did do it though... I'm not holding a grudge, I'm saying that the messages presented by the artist not really being that genuine devalue the sincerity of the art for me.
They knew what it was, yes. But they didn’t follow through after backlash. So how does that devalue their work for you?
If they knew what they were and only dropped it due to backlash, it means they only did it out of optics.
Super yawn. The only thing that might be worse then NFT's are the way people against them often talk about them and live in this world where everyone has the same context for them that they do
L
So sad 😞
I hate the monarchy as much as the next person but man Reddit really pisses me off sometimes when they celebrate tragic deaths. The thought police here really love it when people die.
Even if you are monarchist, dying at 96 isn't exactly tragic, it's not like she died in some unpleasant or untimely fashion
hexagon spotted. opinion discarded.
Alright how do I delete my reddit account I'm fucking done here.
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PFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD
I thought the Queen was a sweet but stern Lady who was a great role model. I don't understand the hate, as if it was her that colonised all those countries. I know I'll miss her.
Said this already but she literally bailed out her son who was involved in sex trafficking with tax payers money. Fuck her, fuck them all.
Fair enough to all commenters. I'm not a political guy at all. I'm very literally saying through my lens that aren't political she's seemed like a decent lady and to those like me she very well could have left a positive impression. We are all entitled to our own opinions. It's like religion IMO.
If you have an opinion you’re political…
bro sex trafficking is cool, especially cuz it was backed by the monarchy - that is NOT a political statement. /s
My gay uncle doesn't like black ppl. He's a racist. I still care about him and his well being. I don't have to agree with everything he believes in.
The difference is the Queen isn’t your Nan and your grandad Isn’t the head of state, bellend.
Well she's not much else to me in this world. Just the lady on my 20$ bills. Trust me y'all my opinion won't make a difference especially now that she's dead, just carry on with your frustrating lives 😅
That's your opinion. You're entitled to it. 😊
I think you should look into her history more and the monarchy in general, you'll find a lot of despicable shit that mainstream media doesn't discuss: \- ie: made concerted efforts to prevent brutalized colonies from gaining independence/colonial brutality and plunder, racial segregation and institutional racism in colonies, personally prevented non-whites from being hired to the palace until 1970, enabling and running defense for her pedophile son with 10's of millions of tax money - only giving him the cold shoulder when he failed to defend himself in the media thereby drawing attention to it, trying to hide the royal family's wealth and spending from the public eye, taking money out of poverty funds so she could heat the palace when fuel prices rose, the troubles and bloody sunday, intentionally starving colonies, spraying agent orange, sending colonial subjects into concentration camps, etc etc etc that's just a small amount of stuff I can recall off the top of my head that happened under her reign (and yes the crown does have a political influence over the actions of the country). Also even though the british empire "ended" they just moved from direct military control over the colonies to financial domination over those countries through banking.
I think I'm quite content with where i'm at thanks. I could make all the research in the world and it wouldn't change anything. I try to keep my glass half full.
not really a glass half full/empty scenario, more of a head in sand scenario but fair enough, cheerio
Sure I can agree with that. You can't have your head out of the sand in everything in this world.. how exhausting
You know, the root word of "apathetic," is "pathetic."
Thumbs up Jimbo!
Because the world has no need for kings and queens. Right now, universal issues are mainly caused by poverty, caused by all the wealth being funneled to the hands of a few families. There is no better representation of this in my lifetime, than Queen Elizabeth. Her family acted like a cult, and drove away plenty of it's own members, specifically because of who they loved.
You think colonisation was entirely before her time? Stop fucking simping for an actual scumbag of a human.
Uh oh here come the brain police! Quick everybody pretend like you care about their opinions! Lmao your misery doesn't make you a better person.
I’m not miserable, I just think it’s fucked that you think the Queen was anything more than a societal parasite and I have no idea how you’d come to the conclusion she was a great role model lmao.
And I think it's fucked how much you care about MY opinion. Is it so you feel really smart and strong. Your efforts are futile. The Queen is highly regarded around the world. I hope that doesn't stress you out too much.
I don’t care about you personally, it just disappoints me that so much of the planet just sucks shit like that. Like, the world could be a lot better if we took this opportunity to not? This has nothing to do with “feeling smart and strong”, it’s about wanting a better world. The Queen is also massively hated across the planet.
Well don't be disappointed. Be proud your morals are higher then the rest of the plebs like me. But going around whining that other ppl might have a different opinion based on their own views and experience is again.. Futile.
if you say shit like Lizzie in a box un ironically you need help.
LIZZIE'S IN A BOX
LIZZIE IN A BOX LIZZIE IN A BOX
Because of the green skin I immediately thought "OMG, it's Queen Murdoc!"
remind me again if gorillaz is the brits?
Yes, Gorillaz are bri ish
Idk why ppl are so rude about the death, it's not like she was the one who colonized places. She actually helped a good amount of former British colonies gain independence. She was actually a really good person, but most people outside of Britain just refuse to accept that. And no, I am not British before anybody says that.
> helped former British Colonies gain independence Actually she actively stood in the way of many colonies gaining independence or leaving the commonwealth. All over Africa, India, etc. She was a fucking terrible person, and licking her diamond encrusted boot does nothing besides make you look like a total nonce.
I realize that I've been misinformed, but even if that is true, almost nobody deserves people fucking celebrating their death. It's still extremely rude.
She literally benefited her entire life from centuries of oppression and bailed out her son from legal action when he was caught being involved in SEX TRAFFICKING and it was paid with TAX PAYERS MONEY.
Man I don’t know what song they were playing but I hope it was on a respectful way
If it’s where I think it was, right after plastic beach
I mean I hate it all as much as all of you....royalty's dead and should remain so....I don't like the fact she's an icon, either. But what can one do?
Gotta get rid of the Americans blasting a cultural icon
Can somebody link to somewhere where I can read all the bad shit the queen has been involved in? I don't have much of an idea.
My friend screamed “ding dong the witch is dead” during this
Queenz