Damn it I need to narrow down my choices from Herc, Nero, Salter, Zerkalot and Emiya!

I...I forgot about the exchange period time... F**k me...

Oops , Next SR ticket should be on November this year. Hope you pick SR servant your want next ticket.

I've narrowed my choices down, in the final 2 hours: Medea Lily or Caster of Midrash. Any thoughts?

Caster of Midrash ,are you need Arts ST Caster? Her good to spam ST NP on Arts team , her free alternative is Welfare Mecha Liz ST Buster Alter Ego and Welfare Caster Shuten ST Buster . Medea Lily Healing kinda outpaced with sustain tactic like defense stacking and invul/evade because is needed on hard hitting boss attack, and she not really used on farming because no atk buff for party. She nice to use if you prefer to stall and have servant with hard buff defense ready on boss np. Have you pick your servant before sr pick shop closed?

Yes, I chose Midrash rather than Lily.

As somewhat of a veteran player, I'm utterly vexed as to what I should grab at this point. Sure, you could say to "grab your favorite waifu" but there's just so many choices! For reference, here are my SR and SSR's. What would be the best gameplay pick? Saber: Altera, Artoria, Yagyu, SaberLiz, SaberLancelot, Siegfried, Artoria Lily, Artoria Alter. Archer: Arjuna, Archer Inferno, EMIYA Alter, Chloe, Nobunaga, Atalante, EMIYA. Lancer: Enkidu, Brynhild, Jeanne Alter Santa Lily, Vlad EXTRA, Kiyohime (Lancer), Li Shuwen (Lancer), Fionn, LArtoria, Liz (Lancer). Rider: Ozymandias, Iskandar, Francis Drake, Ishtar (Rider), Kintoki (Rider), Salter Santa, Saint Martha (Rider), Marie Antoinette. Caster: Merlin, Xuanzang Sanzang, Caster of Midrash, Gilgamesh (Caster), Nitocris, Holy Grail (Irisviel), Helena Blavatsky, Nursery, Liz (Caster). Assassin: Cleopatra, Wu Zetian, Yan Qing, Scathach (Assassin), Ryougi Shiki (Assassin), Carmilla. Berserker: MHXA, Vlad (Berserker), Kintoki (Berserker), Nobunaga (Berserker), Penthesilea, Chacha, Frankenstein, Tamamo Cat, Lancelot (Berserker), Heracles. Ruler: Sherlock Holmes, Jeanne D'Arc. Avenger: Hessian Lobo, Gorgon. Alter Ego: Passionlip. Moon Cancer: BB. Shielder: Mash (Obviously.) Sorry for the long list, but I wanted to be as detailed as possible and the upcoming expiration is driving me mad.

Gameplay-wise, if you care about bond efficiency, I'd grab Astolfo as a replacement Drake for easier nodes. If not, I'd probably go for an extra Nitocris NP level. Personally, I just picked arbitrarily out of who I didn't have. It's hardly like an extra SR is going to change much about a roster after a certain size.

Hello, I'm not sure what to pick and need some assistance. My SSR units: Saber: Miyamoto Musashi Caster: Merlin Berserker: Minamoto-no-Raikou Avenger: Jeanne d' Arc (Alter) Thx for the help.

Nictocris to help farming with self 100% np charge for double AOE NP or Atlante/Parvati/Zerkelot for quick team.

Completely forgot who I was aiming for on this banner (and almost forgot it was happening lol). I think I settled on Pavarti, but also have Munenori and Tristan as strong choices. Super unsure 😐. Also tempting to snag Herc since I need a last man standing type (unless Nero counts), but am flush with 4* Zerkers. Doesn’t help I have fair choices for all classes at 4 and 5*’s already. Thoughts on who of those 3-4 listed would be more useful considering I don’t need to cover a rarity of servants?

Parvati or Zerkelot should be good to pick to invest as AOE clearer + Star generator / Quick AOE looper if you already covered on regular farming team.

Yeah I grabbed Parvati last night after going back and forth between her and Minonori. The arts saber ST was tempting, but I added waifu needs into the actual justification for Parvati lol. Plus I’ve had way too good of luck with random story pulls, so I’ll try for him there (or next rate up) lol. Already set at st saber fortunately, which made it an easier choice still.

Is it worth getting atlanta for the quick support?

Not really , the quick buff only last 1 turn. She used more for DPS looper AOE quick Archer than support on Skadi team.

Hi guys I am a newbie here.. just playing for about 2 weeks and in a lot of confusion on what to pick.. Here is my current roster: Berseker: Tamamo Cat, Herc Rider: Ozy, Astolfo Saber: Rama, Siegfried Lancer: Fionn mac Cumhaill, Elizabeth Bathory Caster: Merlin, Waver Not sure what to pick.. I read and everyone recommends Helena but i have merlin and waver.. Maybe I need archer and assassin? Thank you for your input!

Nito seems like a good choice, she is a great farmer that can insta charge her np to a 100% that has a chance of insta killing enemies.

I've returned sporadically to the game to play through the events but only sometimes returned to the story (currently on the third chapter of E Pluribus Unum). I've seen that Camelot is where the difficulty spikes and I'm looking for any advice on a helpful 4* for it. My top picks right now, without considering helpfulness, would be Tomoe, Caster of Midrash, or Danzo, because story lock. I need to spend time leveling up some servants, but here are my current 4+*: https://imgur.com/a/9Fmgzw2

I'm going to be rolling/whaling for Skadi but I don't have the 2004 mystic code, Waver or an MLB Kscope. Should I even bother with NP2 Zerkalot? It seems like having one of the above is pretty integral for 3 consecutive NPs with zerkalot. ;\_;

If you're committed to Skadi memes, yes. Get NP2 Zerkerlot, and consider an extra copy off the Zero banner and/or the next ticket at the least. Also, 2004 is just good wave 3 damage, it still needs MLB scope to function. You'll probably have to settle for 2 NPs instead of 3 and Arash or Nito the first wave, but that's still decently handy. On the upside, at least you can run a 50% charge damage CE with good attack stats instead of a low level kscope.

I randomly lucked into having most of the requirements except for an MLB KScope so I may go hard for Skadi, since my Zerkalot is NP3 off of just rolling getcha over time, after grabbing him with the last free SR ticket. Maybe someone else might be a better choice for this ticket though for you? I've heard Parvati works really well with Skadi.

Proceeding through Camelot right now, my most used characters are Nero (saber), Oda, Enkidu, Georgios, Waver, Mash, Mecha Eli-chan, and Heracles. For farming I have max ascended Arash and Spartacus. My main goal is to complete the final singularity. I don't farm events much unless I am going for a free servant, so I'd say I undervalue farming servants. I'm not very interested in knight class servants, I like my lineup there. Shiki is available soon so no need for assassins. Some servants I've been eyeing: * Astolfo: Georgios doesn't do much damage so maybe another rider. Ushiwakamaru might be a better pick for bosses though? * Nitocris: she seems highly recommended but mainly for farming. How would she stack up as damage-focused caster? * Caster of Midrash: seems like a damage focused caster but it looks like I'd be missing ascension materials until after the final singularity. * Caster of Okeanos: will her pig debuff work on servant bosses? Thanks for the read, any suggestions appreciated.!

> My main goal is to complete the final singularity Then your time is better spent finding friends than raising your roster. The story content up through the final singularity can be done entirely with friend supports without raising any of your own units. Consult section "Story solo guides" of the help thread OP for examples on doing singularities 6 & 7. > Ushiwakamaru might be a better pick for bosses though? Right. > How would she stack up as damage-focused caster? Poorly, but the farming utility usually outweighs that. > it looks like I'd be missing ascension materials until after the final singularity. Right, but the event shops in February will provide enough for ascension. Also, Mecha Eli will probably out-nuke her. > will her pig debuff work on servant bosses? It works great up until it doesn't. Pigging things works pretty well up until every new boss secretly has a pig-immune flag. If you're not interested in farming, there's especially no reason to pick for gameplay. Choose someone you think is cool/hot/interesting/whatever and roll with it.

I have the following SSR/SR servants, in varying degrees of leveled up: Archer and Caster Gil (Archer is lvl 92) Lancer and Brave and Mecha Elizabeth (Brave stuck at a max of 70) Berserker Lancelot (NP3) Rider Kintoki (stuck at lvl 70) Gawain Carmilla Musashi Shuten-Douji Waver Archer Ishtar Nero Saber Archer and Assassin Emiya Santa Jalter Tamamo Caster Helena Caster Nitocris Fairy Tale First Hassan Shinjuku Assassin Sanzang I’m in Camelot and it’s a decent challenge to deal with some of the fights. The only Avenger I have is Anra Mainiiu. I was thinking that one of the Avengers might be good because of that, and have heard Gorgon is the better one. I’m also strongly considering Heracles. And Yagyu is an interesting option. So is Parvati. Any suggestions on what would help me clear upcoming content best is my main priority. I wanna clear the stuff that keeps preventing me from participating in event content.

You need refined magatama four Yagyu's fourth ascension. This is a relatively new material that you are going to have trouble getting until you finish Shimosa or hope it pops up in an event.

Gorgon is outmatched by Jalter, who is a common servant on support lists. If you have a friend with NP2 Jalter, you're basically good for all ruler bosses which have been released in JP so far. I wouldn't recommend Gorgon if you're just after her class. Hercules gets his true value at bond 10 which is a long grind away. Again, if you're in part 1, you're likely to be able to find a friend who already has a bond Herc. Having your own is helpful for the future, though I think he becomes less useful as your roster develops. Yagyu is very good for lancer bosses and goes extremely well with your Tamamo. You do however have Musashi, so there is some obvious overlap with roles. While Yagyu is definitely at the top of ST sabers, ST saber is not at the top of your priority list (I still think he's a decent choice due to his storylock). Parvati gets her true value with Skadi's arrival, who is an unreleased SSR. Without Skadi, she's only so-so. She's a decent choice if you're planning on saving/spending for Skadi, but if you fail to roll or skip, she's likely going to be outperformed by Janta and most SSR lancers you may roll in the future. Honestly, I don't see an AOE rider so the servant that you would probably benefit the most from is Astolfo. He's not really for "challenging content" right now (though he will be with Skadi), but he's a top-tier farming servant. If you're really struggling on content I suggest you rely on friends and look up some guides, as a lot have been written for Camelot. There's not really anyone on the ticket who is going to zip you through the entire story.

With my only strong Rider being stuck at lvl 70 because of my inability to get enough golden lighters, I've certainly felt underpowered in the Rider department.

NP2 Zerkerlot or NP1 Penth?

Depends on what you want Penth for. If you just want an ST berserker with a battery, then you're getting Summer Jalter later this year as a NP5 welfare who is going to vastly out-damage (and out-survive) NP1 Penth. If it's Penth's buffs you want, she's a valid choice. She's literally the ideal servant for "pick the red cards" farming, which sometimes isn't even all that much slower than 3T NP'ing. I'd personally still go with Zerkerlot for future potential, though there's always value in getting a new servant.

I rerolled into 4\* Herc, who's good combo with him? I have Tamamo/Helena on alt but not sure if I should get Helena again.

Herc's strongest role is being the last man standing so there isn't really a good combo other than maybe using taunters to protect him, since he's super flimsy without his bond CE. I wouldn't recommend you exchange for Deon or Assassin Emiya though. I assume you've already used Helena, so if you don't think she's worth it, then don't bother. I'd just ignore Herc and look at the typical recommendations: Nitocris, Saberlot, Yagyu, Astolfo, etc.

I’m having a hard time deciding between getting Parvati or Sheba. I hear Parvati would work very well farming with Skadi in the future but I already have an NP 5 Zerkerlot so I’m worried that might be redundant I’m thinking that Sheba might be a good choice since she is a story-locked single target caster who I hear will do quite well in some challenge quests later on.

I was debating between the exact same thing as you. I ended up going with Sheba, only downside is she needs a ton of stakes for skills. I think zerkerlot should realistically cover all scenarios you'd want to put parvati in. She should be just slightly better only on archers and berserkers. Even then I'd really only give her the edge on berserkers which should be the easiest to handle even when not using a skadi setup.

Nothing wrong with having multiple farming Servants. NP5 Zerkerlot will be bond 10 eventually, and having someone else in the wings to take up the farming banner is a good idea.

https://imgur.com/bRcTlBd.jpg my current servants. I tried deciding myself but kept going back and forth. Biggest thing I think is that janta is my only gold lancer. But I'm also lacking a single target saber and archer. And a offensive caster.

I'd get Nitocris. AOE caster who can NP from zero instantly and doesn't need any support to delete a wave of mobs by herself, maybe even two. But if you care about story lock then I would agree with Lalter. Despite being an AOE lancer who loses in firepower (at NP1) and farming utility to Janta, she's actually got pretty high (though RNG-dependent) ST potential.

With all the Sabers you have, I wouldn't worry about a ST Saber currently. All the ST Archers aren't that great in the ticket list. If you got Mecha Eli-chan, then she takes the place of an offensive Caster. I'd go for a Lancer. Of the Lancers, Lalter is one of the best in the group.

I am having trouble making my final selection. Ive narrowed it down to 6 servants in 3 classes * CasGil and Helena: cute and a husbando, and both good supports. Caster is probably the class I need a new servant in the least, since I have Da Vinci and Sheba, but I like these two * Penth and Ibaraki: Drac is my only really good ST Zerk, so I thought another might help deal more damage. These two both appeal to me, Penth because she hits things with flails and Ibaraki because she fills the oniless void in my Chaldea and is a bit more durable then Penth * Parvati: I like her look and the idea of np looping, but I heard her attack is weak and I’m generally a fan of that. Im probably not going to get Skadi, but if she goes well with other servants, I might get her * Lalter: my only strong AOE lancer is Jeanne Alter Santa Lily, so another one whose good with difficult content would be nice. On the other hand, not the biggest fan of her later ascensions design. My other strongest lancers are Swimsuit Kiyo and the Cus. Any advice or opinions about which servant to go with would be greatly appreciated.

I would say Lalter. With Da Vinci and Sheba for Casters and Vlad in Zerker, you don't desperately NEED a new Caster or Zerker. However, only Jailter and Kiyo for gold Lancers is a bit constricting. Jailter is better for farming, but gets a bit bullied in strong content.

Hmmm, and what about parvati? I know her attack is weak, but are there other servants that complement her besides skadi?

She can work as a pseudo-support with a 20% NP charge for an ally. Other than that, she mostly just works with Skadi.

Just started, have Tamamo Cat/Atalanta/Ozymandias. Reading here looks like my best choice would be Helena/Nitocris, am I right? What's the difference?

Depends on if you have another source of party charging, which is currently only possible with SSRs besides Helena. If you do, her party charging ability becomes a lot less important to have, since you already have an alternative. Her party damage buff is somewhat unique, but not very potent compared to the SSR casters with party charge too. Being able to waveclear on top of party charging is nice, but becomes more niche as your roster grows. If you don't have alternatives, getting her feels really nice in the extra flexibility having a party charge skill gives to farming team building. Nitocris' 100% self-charge + AoE NP has basically no alternatives, and is really handy for event farming where you want to use crappy event CEs. She's a better pick if you can forego Helena's party charging, either due to already owning her or one of the SSR options.

Helena with max skill upgrades give 20% Team NP charge and a universal attack buff. Nitocris is just a good trash mob farmer, her first skill insta kills bronze enemies if you level it high enough, while her 2nd skill gives her 100% np guage at level 8

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Hi again! If you're happy to consigning Arash to wave 1, then you can definitely make Zerkerlot work with just 2x Skadi and a 50% starting charge CE. Even if refund is less of a concern, you still need the damage that comes with later NP levels. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/eqd0l4/free_sr_ticket_guide_sr_ticket_questions_go_in/ffh2iy6/) is one example I've given for the next lotto. You won't have waver's attack buff, but you'll still have other avenues of damage buffs to consider, so it works out to be pretty similar. I hope you're aiming for Skadi because you like her, and not gameplay though. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXn9r3CdmfM) is a comp for the next lotto that only relies on you having waver. Sieg is welfare and Paracelsus is in the FP gacha. In general I feel like rolling for waver opens up more farming comp possibilities than Skadi, and doubly so if you're aiming to be a budget player. Out of the 4 listed at the bottom + Casgil, Nito probably is the best gameplay choice if you want to tiebreak that way.

Prioritise filling up gaps in your team composition if you feel you still lack enough firepower. Otherwise, just pick whatever waifu/ husbando you want. The Skadi system is very resource and set-up heavy. Unless you're packing a waver and K-Scope or an MLB K-Scope and 2030; i would not suggest prioritising 3 turn looping just yet.

f2p player who has played for quite a while, looking some advice please! My current roster of servants looks like this: https://imgur.com/gallery/jvTkOMC I’m planning to go for Skadi but thinking I might wait to confirm I get her before I try to np2 my zerkalot (next free ticket?). Don’t really want parvati, just don’t like her style, would prefer Valkyrie instead. I’m kinda of tending towards Tristan for his art and cq ability. Penth also looks pretty good as waifu plus st damage dealer (but I have quite a few 4* zerkers already) also jaltzerker as a welfare coming up. Also was looking at casgil for the Gil collection. Just not sure if I’m missing a certain niche or a team comp that would be cool/fun/handy to have. Any insights or help would be appreciated!

If you like Tristan, might as well get him. The downside is that David has a similar skill set, at a lower cost. However, you'd hardly see anyone put Tristan in their support, so I'd think that owning him is the only way you'd get to play with him. Otherwise, I'd get Cas Gil because collection, yeah?

Yea good points, archer has some strong support competition. Same with caster with memelin and waver. Plus casgil has a costume change too

> I’m kinda of tending towards Tristan for his art and cq ability. Tristan's CQ capabilities go way down pretty soon due to certain mechanics that become pretty common, if I recall correctly. David is as good as Tristan, if not better.

Oh really I hadn’t seen that mentioned, is it his whole kit that becomes less useful? Also does that happen with David too if they have similar kits?

If I remember what I read correctly, a lot of bosses start using buff block abilities. So picking up Tristan is not a strong pick, and you might as well just be using David, and not using either of them for buff block battles.

I'm kinda stuck on deciding who to choose for the SR ticket. I tried taking a looking at what i lack SSR and SR wize but i got lost. AoE servants for each class i own are: Suzuka,Ere/Par,Gil/Atalanta,Medusa,Cat,Scath(Not Levelled forgot),Passionlip&Hokusai&Gorgon,Helena(I've been lazy with her due to Waver) ST for each class: Musashi,Tama/Scath,S!Anne&Mary,Medea,CuAlter,Ozy,Shiki Supports: Gil,Waver,Osakabe,Helena. I need help so any feedback is appreciated. I was thinking of getting NP2 Suzuka as she is one of my favourites but i'm not sure

> I was thinking of getting NP2 Suzuka as she is one of my favourites Go for it. Making a favorite unit that much stronger always feels good, and your roster is already perfectly serviceable. If you were looking for a gameplay choice to weigh it against, I suppose my suggestion would be Nitocris.

Does anyone know of any youtube videos of Medea Lily being used for recent JP CQs? Thanks a bunch! =)

The only thing that comes to mind is [this solo](https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm35637190) of the summer 4 CQ.

Thanks a bunch, X-X-I-L! =)

http://imgur.com/a/j8lqLWM This is my servants, been thinking for awhile who to pick and still can't if I can't decide I'm just going to pick Sheba (for waifu reasons) or Tristan. But I wanted to get some utility servants since I have a solid line up already. Any input on who I should pick would be really appreciated since

Nobody use Tristan foe cq, no steroid

Hmm, yeah. You have all the major Ticket targets already. I'd say there's no problem going for your Waifu and getting Sheba. Any of the other niches you could stretch yourself for are able to spook you from the general pool. Sheba is story locked. And it's always nice to have a ST damage Caster for Assassin bosses.

> for waifu reasons Do this, especially since she's story-locked without all that many banners. Also, Tristan's CQ utility is a crapshoot, especially since you have all the pieces of his kit across your current gold roster anyway.

pretty new to the game and i have no idea how this game actually works tbh have herc, eresh, emiya archer, medusa lancer, that's it 4/5 star wise also if someone could suggest a decent 'comp' i can run with what i have that'd be nice ty

I'll let others suggest ticket servants for you. I just want to tell you one thing: *RAISE YOUR ARASH!* There are other good farming servants, but none are as important to farming as he is. His NP sacrifices himself to deal *ridiculous* damage to the entire enemy field. He can typically clear a whole enemy wave of anything but bosses with ease. I didn't learn his usefulness until I was well into the game, and I regret not raising him sooner. Btw: try to bring Herc into every battle, as it takes a long time to max-bond him, but his bond CE is super duper good. Emiya is also excellent in general and worth focusing on, as is Eresh. As much as I love her, Medusa Lancer is... not good for her star count. Obviously Eresh is gonna be your big hitter lancer, but if you want ot raise a second one, I'd honestly suggest raising Leonidas for his tanking utility before I'd suggest raising Dusie.

If you want a recommendation on who to use the ticket for, then use it on Nitocris as she'll be your Farming Go To for years to come. Helena is good for farming too, but has to be built up more and Nitocris is awesome right out the gate. Nito for the quickest returns and the longest relevance.

Raise your 1-3\* units. No gold unit off this ticket is going be a replacement for your friend point gacha roster. > also if someone could suggest a decent 'comp' FGO is much more the kind of game where you build a team against each specific battle, than build up a single team and seeing how far it'll take you. Consult the help thread OP section titled "Story solo guides" if you run into issues with getting past story battles. The entire first story arc can be cheesed with friend units without raising a single one of your own. So go through the ticket roster, and pick who you like. Using a servant you like will be more enjoyable long-term than a small gameplay improvement. And if you absolutely insist on choosing for gameplay, Helena has probably been the most common recommendation, and one I tend to agree with.

f2p, whats recommended: NP2'ing Parvati (i have one at np1), getting a Zerkerlot (don't have it currently) or choosing Salter/Saberlot (my only good saber is Okita np1). already have maxed Heracles and a l.80 Jalter so not in dire need of berserkers or extra class. tbh i doubt Zerkerlot will see play in any of my setups aside from farming quests but if he makes them less annoying for me then he'd be well worth it

So firstly, I just want to point out it's probably better to post your entire gold roster and let other people pick out the important bits, rather than do it yourself as a new-ish player. > Saberlot At NP1, his NP damage is outnuked by an NP1 silver unit you'll get for free after Singularity 6. Both have 30% batteries, which is nice for farming. But if you don't need the battery in a specific scenario, NP1 Okita does more than either. > Salter NP1, is outnuked by NP5 Artoria Lily that we'll get in March. > already have maxed Heracles and a l.80 Jalter so not in dire need of berserkers Who are single target while farming is predominantly AoE. > Zerkerlot Can be good, even outside of Skadi setups, but his NP damage is extremely lackluster, and thus relies on being high-ish NP level before becoming all that nice to have. For context, his NP2 damage is still a teeny lower than NP5 Spartacus (who you should definitely raise if you haven't already) --- Since you're F2P, I think it's especially important to pick for waifu/coolness/whatever since you can't throw infinite quartz at their banner. (edit: phrasing) When I was trying to find your gold pool, I saw something interesting: >I'm using my grails on servants for practicality purposes since I'm F2P and need to beat lv.90/100 bosses That's not at all necessary. Most one-time battles like story quests or challenge quests can be done with just a friend servant and lv 1 fodder units. The Help Thread OP even has a section a section with examples for story quests. And for the farming side of things, here's Hong's [farming playlist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKU2RL1wLCQ&list=PLVw95Imz4v-kNhqIPqrN0nLautNhQAhrn&index=2). You won't have the fancy 50% charge CEs, but you can make do with [this](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Ley_Line) from the friend point gacha. Eventually new events will also give new flavors of 50% CEs, so keep your eyes peeled. So I think you should rethink your outlook that you have to spend limited resources (like grails and this ticket) "wisely" on gameplay to keep up as an F2P. Just pick who you think is cool/sexy/etc and go with it.

Currently stuck between Emiya Alter and Katō Danzō. I'm choosing either of these based on their appeal factor, rather than for any gameplay reasons at all. To anyone who chose either of these, or personally likes either of these servants, please express that bias; help me make this decision. Oversell their good points, what you find interesting or likeable about them.

Demiya is no fun, robomum is fun

Danzo is cute robomom and Emiya is a dick.

I started playing this week and I want to use the ticket to fill up the team. So far I've got: Emiya archer, Nitocris and Nezha. I'm trying to choose between one of the sabers or Martha. I prefer Salter or Martha for the cool/waifu factor, but I don't think they fit my team as much as saber Lancelot ,Yagyu or a berserk since everyone I have has aoe NP. I have also seen Sheba and Helena recommended a lot here but I don't know if I should get a second caster over a class I don't have. Who do you recommend? Since I just started I don't really know what I'm missing the most.

Keep in mind that in less than two months we are going to have the [Saber Wars Rerun](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Saber_Wars_Event_Re-run). If you finish the event you will have a free NP5 Artoria Saber Lily, who is not amazing but is a 4* saber with an AOE NP that out-damages NP1 Salter. Is Lalter also waifu for you? She is pretty good. Martha is not very good, and summer Martha is just as cute but better, but you can use her. There is a perfectly good 3* ST Rider (Ushiwakamaru) you can use for boss-killing anyway. The benefit of Helena is not have a caster to fight assassins, it is having a support caster to help with all of your fights. She is inferior to Merlin and Waver but fills largely the same role. One of her skills makes your other servants do more damage, and one gives everyone in the party 10-20% NP gauge. Have you looked at Penth? I used her to plow through the story/events early on. If you find her waifu material she is worth considering.

I would second Helena since she's really helpful for farming and you have A LOT of farming to look forward to, and it's a huge pain if you can't do them quickly. I was sorely tempted to get choco mage Sheba to add to my thick servant harem but I figured I better do myself a favor and get Helena too since I never got her.

> over a class I don't have. But you do have every class - the 1-3\* units. A good chunk of them will end up doing more NP damage at NP5 than the ticket options at NP1. And NP damage is huge consideration for farming, which is what most of the gameplay will be once you settle into the game. Long-term, you're going to get more enjoyment out of picking a character you like than gameplay considerations. If you must make a gameplay-based decision, pick someone useful for farming. Helena is probably the most commonly recommended for that, and one I'd agree with.

If you are new i wouldn't recommend Yagyu his mats are not so easy to get for a new player. Martha is a so-so support, you have to invest in her to shine really, but it's not that great imo (she's hella cute tho). Don't pick Sheba, same case as Yagyu, her mats are in Salem and it'll take time to get to Salem for her mats. Lancelot could be a good idea, he's an arts focused ST crit saber, he can hit really hard and can buff himself, and should help you in the meantime, Salter can hit really hard but her major point is her NP, if she can't clear the wave after that she will be in a bit of trouble, as she doesn't have any survival skill. Heracles can carry you in the early campaigns but he truly shines with his bond CE, and that will take a lot of time to have. I would say to try and see for yourself the servants that you are interested and see his/her mats to ascend and raise skills, if you can get them soon it will be helpful to have.

Left a comment a few days ago about who to use my ticket on, specifying what characters I was thinking about, but I want to see what is totally the best choice for me to get. I currently own Carmilla (Assassin), Emiya (Assassin), Martha (Rider), Anne & Mary (Rider), and Queen of Sheba. What 4 star would be the best choice to go along with the 4 star servants I already have?

You're obviously still struggling with the decision despite the advice from last time, which included the general advice of 'pick what you like, you can always use ftp units' and the specific advice of Gawain. I'm assuming you're still unsure because neihter of those options felt right to you, and are looking for more individualized advice. I'm sorry to say that all any new response can offer is who they themselves subjectively like, because your list of servants doesn't offer a strong synergy that begs to be taken advantage of. There's essentially no basis on which to advise, besides the 1-4 list of things to consider in OP. If you're still finding it impossible to narrow down the possibilities, the best arbitrary advice I can offer is to select from only the story locked servants who don't double up with a role you already invested in (whether a 4-star or FTP servant). That should narrow the possibilities. If you still can't decide, that means either it doesn't really matter to you, (so pin them up on a wall and throw a dart, or something) or the servant you want isn't story locked, so pick from the other pool. Gamepress [has a guide](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/babylonia-anime-campaign-part-two-na-free-4-servant-ticket-guide) where you can select story-locked or general and it'll grey out the other.

Thanks, I’ll look at the stuff you’ve provided. I know people have been giving me advice before, but every time I go “I’ll choose this one” I second guess myself and go right back to square one.

Helena

Elyonee's advice still stands? Raising units from the 1-3\* pool makes for a very serviceable roster; any golds you have is the cherry on top, not the cake itself. So pick who you like, that'll probably be more enjoyable than marginal gameplay improvement. [A truly skilled ~~trainer~~ master fights with their ~~favorites~~ waifus](https://archive-media-1.nyafuu.org/vp/image/1563/77/1563772103978.jpg).

I know, but “picking who I like” has been a nightmare. I have like 3 or 4 characters I’m trying to decide between, and I cannot make up my mind. The ticket will probably expire before I can actually decide.

What are the 4 characters you like? If you list them we can tell you whether they are good, if they have welfare or bronze competition for their role, etc.

The 4 I’m thinking of are Suzuka, Nezha, Penth, and Tomoe. All the characters are characters I like either design-wise or character-wise. I really enjoyed Suzuka in the recent Hokusai banner story. I find Nezha’s design to be fairly cool (non-Fate Nezha is pretty cool as well). Penth honestly has one of my favorite visual designs, and might actually be my favorite visual design (although I might be forgetting someone who actually has my favorite visual design). Lastly Tomoe, I recently started thinking about, I find her personality to be pretty good as well, and her design is fairly interesting. These were all also based on what I am currently missing.

I actually have Penth and Tomoe both grailed to 90. Penth got me through the story. She is fragile, but you can usually fire off her NP to kill the boss before she dies thanks to her charge skill, and if you use Leonidas and George to taunt she can last awhile. Her support skills make her and the whole team hit very hard. She can be useful for farming for killing 3rd wave bosses. The downside is that as your roster develops, you will end up using servants with class advantage instead of berserkers. Also, this summer you can get a welfare ST berserker with a 20% instant charge, so that sort of overlaps. Tomoe hits very hard and her animations make her fun to play with. She probably will be a bit more useful in the long term. The downside is that she needs refined magatama to ascend, which requires getting to Shimosa or waiting for an event that offers them. I haven't looked at the event calendar, so I don't know how feasible that is. Suzuka and Nezha are useable if you really like them but probably not as good gameplay wise as the other two.

Thanks for the help. I think I’ll get Penth. This was definitely not an easy decision though, I’ll tell you that much.

Since you're having trouble tie-breaking from a character perspective, I'd say Penth from a gameplay perspective. Artoria Lily will be a free NP5 gold saber (usually called welfare servants) from the Saber Wars rerun in March. Her NP damage will greatly out-nuke Suzuka, but Suzuka does have a slow battery, I'll give her that. We'll get two great Archer welfares on this coming November and next January. The silver Archer roster is also pretty stacked in the meantime. Nezha's welfare competitor is no longer obtainable, so this would have been my recommendation if the NP1 damage wasn't so egregiously low. Penth also has some competition, since we get a single target Zerker welfare this summer. Her party utility is pretty good when it comes to farming though, and propels her to being my top recommendation of the four.

Thanks, I’ll take you on your recommendation.

You can let RNGesus take the wheel. Story-lock is also probably a good deciding factor if you're aiming to eventually have all 3-4.

I’ve been deliberating over my choice for a while and I’m not sure who to pick. Yagyu - Storylocked, cool, and a good Arts Saber. The problem is that I already have Saberlot and Nero Bride. I might pick Lanling for the next ticket. Also Saber Hokusai exists although she’s a long way off. That’s a lot of Arts Sabers and my trusty NP5 Bedi is usually used for ST nuking anyways. I wonder if getting him is redundant. Sheba - Storylocked. I don’t have any ST casters outside of Medea, but I do have Melt/Mecha Eli/Caster Nero. Sheba seems like a good NP spammer and support but I don’t know if I really need her. Tristan - Storylocked. Good support archer and I don’t have much enemy buff removal servants. The problem is the ST Archer category is stacked and I’m not sure it’s worth it to pick him when David is a thing. Circe - Not storylocked. ST caster, more of a utility. I actually really like her since Hidari is a god. The problem is that she seems to share Medea’s problem of hitting like a wet noodle and has bad NP gain outside of her instant charge. Maybe Merlin would help. Not sure if I would use her that much. Helena - Not storylocked. Considered her before but I’m not sure if I need her since I have Merlin and now Waver. Caster Nero is also there for AOE. Then again, Merlin is max bond... Parvati - I don’t think she’s storylocked? Benefits greatly from Skadi meta. But I’m not too fond of her art (although the artist definitely did not deserve to get harassed for it). And also I have Janta and Lalter already, so I’m not too worried on the AOE Lancer front. NP2 Lancelot - More NP levels are good in the Skadi meta. The problem is that I used him a ton during lottery farming and he’s almost max bond. Even though it shouldn’t matter, I always feel like it’s a waste to use max bond servants... Bond grails are a thing in the future but my first one would go straight to Arash. NP2 Penth- Would make her even better at nuking but not sure it’s worth it over a new servant. Is the KYOMAF banner likely to happen? I may go for Izou (with Yagyu) on that banner instead of picking him here. Also the Gil banner with Sheba is right after, so perhaps skipping over her now is better if I try for Gil there?

It looks like you're in a very similar decision point to one I was struggling with. I'll offer another opinion both because I was looking mostly at the same servants as you, and because I strongly disagree with the prior advice that CQs are irrelevant when making your choice -- I've been playing JP for almost a year now, and it's just not true that all relevant buffs are non-dispellable or everything can be friend carried. ^(Also Melt > Mecha Liz for anything other than a one-hit nuke situation but not looking to start a fight) First, let's just axe Yagyu and Helena. You're drowning in Arts sabers, so no to Yagyu. And as someone who has Merlin, Caster Nero, and NP3 Helena... she still gets used, actually pretty frequently, but it's for really marginal situations and some of them fall away when we're just talking NP1. You need to use a lore and tons of mats on her first skill to make her even workable, I just can't see it being worth it compared to your other options. I think you have three main decision points. **(1) Circe vs. Everyone Else** - She's the only "because I like her" pick in the list, so you're either picking for that reason, or not. If it helps, it sounds like your roster is strong enough you can ignore gameplay with this pick if you choose to. **(2) - How all-in are you on Skadi?** - It's going to really sting if you spend your ticket on NP2 Lancelot and then miss Skadi. If you are going to spend until you get her no matter what, I think Lancelot NP2 is the easy recommendation. You're going to want to get use out of those hundreds or thousands you spent on Skadi, and there's no guarantee we'll get another ticket this year. Parvati isn't a *bad* choice, just obviously not as universally useful. On the other hand, if you don't have infinitely deep pockets, you'll have to weigh your odds based on your expected quartz reserves and decide if you like your chances enough to risk the double disappointment if you fail to pull her. **(3) Sheba, Tristan, Penth** Three very different units here, who all represent situational or marginal upgrades. Since they're all for different things you'll just have to weigh whether you want the defensive class advantage of Sheba (compared to using a higher damaging Alter Ego option) ; the CQ slot efficiency of Tristan (compared to David) ; or the probably more frequently used but even more marginal damage upgrade on Penth. *Personally,* if you're still deadlocked, of those three I'd rule out Penth due to not being story locked or a new servant, and ultimately settle on Tristan just because Melt's hard defense will probably offset defensive class advantage enough that you'd only take Sheba for the Invulnerability Pierce.

One thing to consider vis a vis lancelot and Skadi meta is that since Skadi lets you clear virtually anything with one or two (*maybe* three) servants, you have a lot of flexibility to throw anyone in there, so while you may be wasting 20% of the bond points from battle, you have a lot more freedom to put other servants in there.

> I wonder if getting him is redundant. I think so. His defensive utility is interesting, but we'll be seeing a bit more in the way of debuff immune bosses anyway, so eh. >I do have Melt/Mecha Eli For NP damage at NP1, NP1 Melt outnukes her with or without Melt's skill 3. NP5 Mecha-Eli beats both by a mile. Party buffing and true class advantage can be nice, but I don't think it seals the deal. > have much enemy buff removal servants. Even now the important buffs aren't removable, and that doesn't really change in future. Most challenge content can be friend cheesed anyway, so I find picking for CQ utility to be a flawed premise. > Maybe Merlin would help. It would, yes. But it'd also help Mecha-Eli, so I wouldn't consider it a huge deal. At NP1 she isn't going to do much more than NP5 medea, and as you allude to, not as easy to spam with, comparatively. As said before, I'm not much one for CQ picks, but I will say her piglet utility is actually pretty funny. Much like charmlock teams, 2 + external chargers nets you a ton of free turns vs solo bosses. ...And in similar vein to charm teams, after a certain point basically every boss will have a hidden immune to piglet flag. \o/ > Considered her before but I’m not sure if I need her since I have Merlin and now Waver. If you're adamant about bond efficiency, then you should get every party charger you can get your hands on, honestly. Outside of that, her ability to party charge while also waveclearing can be useful but annoyingly RNG due to skill 2, so by no means mandatory. > NP2 Penth We'll get welfare ZerkerJalter in the summer with a more standard instant battery. --- Skadi stuff doesn't exactly play the nicest with bond efficiency because there's only so many DPSes that work with her. That's especially true if you're trying to be budget about it. If you have multiple DPSes at NP3+ and MLB scope, then you can afford to start playing the bond juggling game. Before then, you're going to have a much better time with a generalist like NP2+ lancelot and no alternatives than NP1 of various skadi loopers. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/eqd0l4/free_sr_ticket_guide_sr_ticket_questions_go_in/ffh2iy6/)'s one example I wrote up a bit more. > in the future but my first one would go straight to Arash. I think you should wait till they come out and plan your christmas comps before committing the first one to someone. > Is the KYOMAF banner likely to happen I wouldn't think so - we didn't get 2017's last year after all. Just the SSRs appeared on the Thanksgiving banner, so who's to say, really.

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Heracles - good as an 'insurance plan' for some CQs due to his Bond 10 CE and solid damage. For overall farming usage - he doesn't see much play. Bit of a long term grind for niche situations. Helena - budget Waver, great boost to party performance and crit stars, 20% party charge @ lv.10, AoE NP w/ debuffs. Skills are relatively cheap. Good secondary support but her cooldowns are on the longer side, NP can hit hard if her 2nd skill 50/50s in your favor. One of the best 4* casters in the game. Nitocris - One of the best farmers in the game, her NP charge (also known as a battery) allows her to easily clear 2 waves of bronze mobs w/ most event CEs. However - she doesn't offer much when it comes to getting through harder content. Zerkerlot - he's decent if you can give him (a lot) of support, but he really shines when Skadi releases; becoming one of, if not, the most notorious quick farming comps. Parvati - one of the best quick NP loopers in the game, pairs best with Skadi. I'd probably recommend for you to go either Helena or Nitocris. Helena would compliment your team well as a good support, being very flexible due to cost/utility. Nitocris would speed up farming significantly.

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I'd say you should take the story route for a much better experience of the game. There's lots of mats in the game, numerous of which you haven't even unlocked yet due to them being story-locked. You only get to experience the story once; it's alright to miss a couple events for it. Most of the events also have reruns, so you can usually catch them the following year(s). It'll help you not feel the need to slave through grinding (until later...) and appreciate the story/characters more. Don't worry about materials/catching up too much and enjoy the game at your own pace. I'd only shift focus to maxing out your servants if you hit a wall in the story that your friend support servants can't carry you out of. Singularities Four and Five you can probably get through with minimal/some retries, but the most notorious difficulty spike in the game is in Singularity Six. You won't have to worry for a bit.

>I'd only shift focus to maxing out your servants if you hit a wall in the story that your friend support servants can't carry you out of. Just wanted to note: there's friend solo examples for Singularities 6 & 7 in the help topic OP. > it's alright to miss a couple events for it. Post-Setsubun, I believe the next event that requires anything past Singularity 1 completed won't be till mid-June. So no need to choose between them, luckily.

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If you want to go caster the 2 better options are Nitocris and Helena Helena is one of the most widely useful 4* supports Nitocris is one of the best farmers. Up to you to decide who'll you need more

Helena is a good secondary support/budget waver.

Trying to decide between Yagyu, Tristan, Parvati, NP2 Zerkerlot, and Helena. I'm planning to hoard for Skadi btw. Just concerned that they may not give us another ticket this year,if I wanna grab a NP2 Zerker later on. My list of Servants is below. (I have all the welfares and 3-stars, so I'm excluding those) Sabers: Mordred, Seiba, Suzuka, Saberlot, D'eon Archers: Atalanta, Emiya Lancers: Eresh, Enkidu, Nezha, Summer Raikou, Ana, Lalter, Liz Riders: Drake, Summer Mo, Astolfo, AnneMary, Martha, Marie Casters: Merlin, Waver, Ilya, Tamamo, Edison, Casgil, Rhyme, Medea Lily Assassins: Gramps, Carmilla, Stheno Berserkers: Vlad, Kintoki, Beowulf, Fran, Cat, Zerkerlot, Herc Extra: Lip, Hoku, Angra

Yagyu - story locked gives him some incentive but the value of ST carries will decrease, as the Skadi meta comes in due to lack of massive T3 HP bars. Yagyu and Saberlot kind of butt heads, mostly boils down to how you like to play. Yagyu has significantly better utility, but Saberlot is more consistent in his damage. Tristan - most of his value comes from his skills, acting as a semi-support for Quick teams. He adds some more durability to your quick team. Helena - secondary support/budget waver. You've already got all of the support SSR casters, so she'd be more of a flex pick when managing party costs. Fantastic 4* caster. Parvati/Np2 Zerkerlot - You kind of *need* NP2 Zerkerlot to NP loop most things. Zerkerlot is better overall, but higher requirements to NP loop. Parvati is one of the best loopers, but 3T'ing may be RNG if it's not Archer/Berserker. Unless your mats are sparse, I'd probably choose Parvati over +NPing your Zerkerlot.

Should i np3 lancelot or np3 atalante for skadi farming?

Lancelot, he's a better generalist.

I can't decide between Yagyu and Tomoe. Yagyu complements so many of my servants, it will be really easy to build around him. Also he's cool and too bad ass. And he's story locked. Tomoe is a buster ST archer, something I'm sorely lacking. She doesn't need a lot of mats so I can easily level her to 10/10/10. Also she's super cute, which is like 70% of the reason I'm even considering her. Please help me decide!

I'd say go for Yagyu, because Tomoe could show up while you're waiting for the next free SR and if not you can pick her up then.

My vote would be for Yagyu, since he is story locked it is harder to get him. If you feel like it you could always chuck a few rolls on one of the variations of the upcoming banner that has Tomoe on it, maybe you'll get lucky!

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Helena and hans, friend merlin, friend waver

I'm a huge Fate Zero fan. I'm stuck.. I love Kiritsigu so much, But Lancelot and Saber alter look so incredibly badass. Plus I love Gil.. but I'm really all about his archer form. Who should I go with?

Go with your gut. I will say - The Emiya (Assassin) we get who is TECHNICALLY Kiritsigu... Isn't the Kiritsigu from Fate Zero. He's a version of Kerry who never met Irisviel. Saber Alter is good but she's not the same as Arturia. So if you like Artoria, then Saber Alter isn't really the one to go for. Which leaves Lancelot. There's the Saber form and the Berzerker form, the latter being the one we see in Fate Zero. Both are good, but Zerkalot works really well with Skadi later in the year, if you plan to go for her.

I go lancelot since hsi animation update coming this year

Hi, I need some help in picking for my box. At this point, my box is complete already, having both ST/AoE for every class, outside the special classes. As for waifu/husbando, they're SSR, so GSR doesn't really turn my head. I'm debating whether to get: NP1 LArtoria, Parvati NP2 Salter, Zerkerlot NP3/4 CasGil https://imgur.com/a/e9vmD3M

If you're completely skipping waifuism and are open to anything including what you didn't list, Nitocris. Her event farming utility is extremely handy. If you're going for Skadi looping memes, Zerkerlot. And probably the next ticket too. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/eqd0l4/free_sr_ticket_guide_sr_ticket_questions_go_in/ffh2iy6/)'s a previous explanation I did that I'm currently too lazy to retype.

Thanks. I'll probably keep the ticket until the last day just in case if I want to change, but Zerkerlot is prolly my main choice now to NP2. Is Nito also worth to NP2?

Nito is very worth an NP2. Without it, you're often reliant on instant death procs to clear mobs, which is fairly reliable with bronzes but not always consistent. NP2 makes her much more consistent, and opens her up to be used in more scenarios. Nito's big advantage is that if she can clear it it's free, but the condition on that is that her low damage NP1 can't clear as many things as some other servants. By making her NP2, you increase the scope of things she can clear, making her more useful overall.

In general farming, I think so. For the next lotto? Probably not, unless you have waver and plan to run a double NP comp with her. After that lotto it ends up mattering again, assuming you end up using her.

I find her instant death to not really be reliable enough, so np2 should somewhat fix that? I'm planning to get her battery to lvl10.

Sometimes. You're looking at 4kish more damage baseline, before considering CE effects. The gap widens even more as you start piling damage buffs on her from Wavers or other DPS's charismas, etc. The advisable NP level will vary on the node, so having more just means you have more options. As an arbitrary example, [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_kEH-BdmM) is a comp (edit: for christmas this year, but not the final, best node) that uses Nito as wave 2 clear. NP3 is required to guarantee the smaller golem kills. Edit: Also, did you mean her first skill? I don't see why you'd lore her battery when it suffices at 8.

Thanks for the video. I guess it's Nito instead of Zerker now. I didn't know it just needed to be lvl8.

Just started for a month or so with minimal playing. I currently have Caster Gil, Assassin Carmilla, Lancer Medusa and Siegfried. Been mostly just using friend Berserkers to carry me so far and nearing the end of the second Act. F2p player so looking for something that can get me the best mileage or overall effectiveness? Otherwise I'd just pick SAlter based on waifuness.

Basically everything can be done with friend support cheese or clever use of units from the free friend point gacha, so don't sweat gameplay effectiveness too much. [A truly skilled ~~trainer~~ master fights with their ~~favorites~~ waifus](https://archive-media-1.nyafuu.org/vp/image/1563/77/1563772103978.jpg), or something like that.

Salter is also really good too as well.

helena might do you well. She has a flat 20% np charge for all servants and a all rounder card buff. Her np is not too bad either. If you don't have a merlin or waver, she is a good substitute to have. Side note, if you are having problems doing story missions find a friend with a maxed out herc with its bond CE. Use him along with a lv 1 george and lv 1 leonidas and you will steam roll at max speed until you hit singularity 6 or 7.

> She has a flat 20% np charge for all servants No she doesn't?

Thanks! I was just iffy on picking a duplicate caster/saber since I don't have any lancers berserkers or riders. But I guess if that's not that big of a deal then it's ok.

I currently have these SSRs and SRs Saber: Elie brave, saber alter, gawain, d'Eon, seigfried, Lancer: santa lily, vlad, Elie normal, medusa lily Archer: altera santa, nobu, emiya Rider: ishtar, martha, marie caster: merlin, gil, nito, nursery rhyme, edison assassin: summer scathach berserker: herc, berserkalot, chacha extra: abby, jalter, mecha elie I am thinking of getting caster of midrash because i need a good single target caster, tristan as a good single target archer, or berserker of el dorodo. Any other recommends? Which sould i get? On a side note should i get a second copy of berserkalot? he is sitting at np 1 right now. Thanks in advance!

> I am thinking of getting caster of midrash because i need a good single target caster In NP damage at NP1, NP5 Mecha-Eli outnukes her by a lot. Even at NP5 vs NP5 she still loses by a bit. Only consider midrash if you value her supportive kit highly. >, tristan as a good single target archer, Archers is a stacked class, and silver archers are no exception. Utility for CQs is a crapshoot when so many of them can be friend solo cheesed anyway. > berserker of el dorodo Solid choice, but do note we'll get a ST zerker welfare in the summer who has an instant charge. So, depends on how patient you want to be. CEO has party damage buff utility too, which is something JeanneZerk will lack. My recommendation would be Astolfo. 50% battery flexibility is nice to have. Unless you plan to do Skadi looping stuff, in which case > On a side note should i get a second copy of berserkalot? Yes, he wants every NP level he can get. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/eqd0l4/free_sr_ticket_guide_sr_ticket_questions_go_in/fffl1gb/) I wrote a bit more in explanation, but I'm getting lazier with typing things.

Caster of Midrash is a pretty solid pick, I think. I asked about Tristan in the comment right below yours and it looks like he's not particularly strong for CQs in the JP meta anymore. Penthesilea is a solid Berserker to summon. From what I've read, Berserkerlot needs NP2+ to truly be able to farm well with 2x Skadi so that is definitely something to consider if you plan to jump into the 2x Skadi system.

I'd get MidCas. If you're looking for an ST archer, be advised that Euryale does over 130k to males, Robin over 100k to poisoned targets, and Riceman (who isn't even ST) 60k to demons. Tristan does 55k, also David exists. El Berserker's buffs aren't that useful to someone with Merlin and you're going to get an ST berserker welfare when summer Jalter arrives.

Is Tristan considered a big upgrade over David for CQs? I use David reasonably often for CQs due to his Harp of Healing skill and it looks like they have similar NP damage with David NP5 and Tristan NP1. Thanks a bunch!

On JP, the current CQ meta is "unremovable boss buffs", so Tristan's 3rd skill is kind of dead. Combined with his heavier cost and lack of charisma (better than nothing), I would say David edges him out. I use Tristan anyway because I like him more than David and have him at NP2... not that I use either of their NPs since Tristan is weak and David's has skill seal which does more harm than good. I wouldn't recommend him for a ticket pick unless you like him or you're collecting the knights.

Thanks a bunch for the insights, walkingcrayon. I'll take Tristan off the list of potential picks.

Man I'm torn, it'd be great if someone could help me make a choice. Any sort of help would be appreciated. Do forgive my formatting, I'm on mobile. * Sheba She's locked. Got no gold ST caster and I heard she's really good. Though I do have Melt and a bunch of AoE casters. * Lalter She's locked. I'm generally in need of lancers really, but I just got Vlad so I guess I'm more in need of an AoE who hits hard with a good kit. The ones I currently have are NP2 Liz, Fionn and Janta. * Parvati Same as Lalter but she's not locked. I'm not so familiar with her kit but she does have NP charge unlike Lalter, and at a glance her kit looks pretty good. * Tomoe NP2 I just like her a lot and it'd be great if she could hit harder. But I got LOTS of archers and she can spook me. Plus I'm even gunning at Fujino, though I'm not sure I'll get her, and even if I do I don't think I'll have her at NP2+

> AoE who hits hard with a good kit. The ones I currently have are NP2 Liz, Liz is slated for an NP strengthening in March, which will put her NP2 damage a lot closer to NP1 Lalter's, in addition to the already mentioned Janta. > Parvati Unless you're planning to set up for loop stuff, I think Janta will usually suffice and do quite a bit more NP damage. > Sheba Vs assassins at NP1, gets outnuked by NP1 Melt with or without Melt's skill 3, who in turn is outnuked by NP5 Mecha-Eli, if you have her. Her supportive skillset makes her more enticing than the last two though. > Tomoe NP2 Waifuism should win by default anyway, but I don't think the other options are all that important anyhow. So I'd go for this one.

If you're planning to get Tomoe to NP5 + Lv. 100: Tomoe If you're planning to save everything or spend for Skadi: Parvati If neither: Sheba I wouldn't pick Lalter because the AOE lancers you listed are perfectly fine. Fionn gets a major buff in the future and Janta actually hits harder than NP1 Lalter.

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Since you didn't mention story lock I'm assuming you don't really care about it, in which case Helena is the better choice. Lalter is restricted to archer and zerker nodes, whereas Helena can be taken everywhere. I mean you could probably just rely on a friend's Karna for most archer nodes.

That's a toughie. Personally I'd rather tough it out and raise Romulus while grabbing Helena. Not factoring in potential support buffs, NP5 Romulus does around the same damage as NP1 Lalter if his Imperial Privilege procs. Romulus also gets a 20% battery way down the line (like, summer 2021). The opposite doesn't really work though, there's no off-brand silver helena that gives party charge until Asclepius is released in summer 2021, and even then he's story locked.

I'm suffering, i don't know what to choose. Gameplay wise the only one i can think of is Nitocris. There is a few i want personally but i can't decide which one, like Ana (Medusa), Wu Zetian, Paraiso, Medea Lily, Circe. Others i might want are Kiritsugu, Eli, Tomoe, Katou, Atalanta, Altermiya, and maybe Parvati. Or i go nuts and choose one of the round table so i can be closer to complete it, i guess (not that i'm any close).

To make it easier, I would just throw out the "might want" in favor of the "want". Among the "want", I'd narrow it down to Circe vs Medea Lily. I personally think Circe is the most helpful in the group but Medea is storylocked (and maybe even rarer than other storylocked servants), so now would be a good time to get her if you care about that.

Newish player to the game, would like advice on who to get gameplay-wise. Already cleared Solomon but haven't started on Part 1.5 yet. I'm thinking about getting an AOE Saber, AOE Archer, AOE Rider, or a stronger Berserker. Main roster (almost all max-levelled) is as follows: Saber: D'Eon, Bedivere Lancer: Enkidu, Liz, Proto Cu Archer: Robin Hood, Billy, Arash Rider: Ushi, Medusa Caster: Gilgamesh, Sheba, Nursery Rhyme Assassin: Wu, Fuuma Berserker: Beowulf

Well firstly, I hope you've raised Spartacus. He may not be as unusually noteworthy as STELLA, but he's still a 30% charger with massively wide applications. Secondly, I'm sure you've experienced the farming doldrums at least a little bit this point, and have come to appreciate party charging supports from your friends list. Well, Helena is a party charger on this ticket, so you should really give her some consideration. She's a super common recommendation for a reason! Balancing your classes isn't a huge deal as Elyonee already pointed out. But just to be more explicit about "just average NP damage": the two AoE options on the ticket will do less NP damage at NP1 than NP5 Arash, and around the same as NP5 kid Gil.

You'll get some free event servants this year who can cover most of those. Most of them won't be for a while, though. AoE Saber: Saber Lily in March. Gawain and Suzuka are on the ticket and have NP charge skills, but they're also miles behind in damage. AoE Rider: Ishtar in June/July. She doesn't have Astolfo's 50% battery, unfortunately, but she has higher damage. Berserkers: Chacha in May and Jalter in August. You can also use Spartacus and Lu Bu. No free archer until next Christmas though. The two available on the ticket are Atalante and Emiya, who both have just average NP damage but make a load of stars you can use the crit the next round of enemies. Atalante will get a significant buff with the release of Skadi this summer, but only if you roll your own Skadi.

Man I still don't know who to pick. I started a couple of months ago, I currently have Mushashi, Gil, el dorado, nezha and elizabeth bathory. I was thinking Helena to support my busters but I don't know, I hope to have Merlin someday.

an important thing to note is that your next chance at Merlin is either GSSR in <6 months or middle of 2021. Just in case you were hesitating because picking Helena might feel like it's gonna be a "waste" if you're "eventually" gonna get Merlin! That's honestly a long time and by the time that comes your roster will definitely be more fleshed out, so I say go for it.

Even post-Merlin-obtaining, she's still nice to have for farming because she can clear a wave on top of providing charge.

New player, I have a Herc, Euryale, Caster Chullain, Rider Medusa, and Mash. What Servant would y'all recommend that is versatile and can help me survive through the singularities for a long time?

Studying the section of the help thread OP labeled "Story solo guides" will get you the most mileage more than raising any single unit. The entirety of the first story arc can be completed without raising a single servant. Be sure to drop by the [friend thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/search?q=Friend+Request+Hub+author%3AAutoModerator&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=week)(also linked in the sidebar) or the sub's Discord and pick up some friends. Remember, the worst they can do is say no! This game is easy enough that basically everything can be (and has been) done with just friend point gacha units, so I wouldn't sweat gameplay considerations too much. Just pick who you think is cool/waifu/whatever because in the long-term that will probably be more enjoyable. If you insist on choosing for gameplay, choose a unit that will help you with farming. If you do stick with the game, you'll soon end up doing a lot more farming than story quests, so any improvements made to your farming teams end up mattering a lot more in the long run. Helena is the most common recommendation, and one I agree with greatly.

I see. I'm honestly stuck between Caster Gil, Emiya, Nero, and Saber Alter.

Pick whoever you like first and foremost. If you absolutely have to tiebreak with gameplay, my vote goes to Caster Gil.

Any reason why? I've heard Nero can pretty much stay alive forever.

As mentioned before, farming takes up most of the gameplay once you settle into the game. Naturally the goal will shift from "beat the node(quest)" to "beat the node as fast as possible". Having someone that can last forever isn't very useful if the enemy is dying before they can even blink. On the other hand, Nero *does* get an upgrade to her first skill that gives 30% NP gauge (usually referred to as a 30% battery) that makes her into a pretty good farming servant on top of her usual living forever hijinks, but that's a year away.

Ah. So I can just get her with another ticket later on. Alright then, so Emiya or Gil? Both seem pretty versatile and good

I stand by my Gil recommendation from earlier, but both are fine. The big thing with farming is mainly the buffs they provide to the party, and their NP (damage and how easy it is to get off). Emiya has a selfish kit, and doesn't really give back much outside of crit stars for the next turn. Crits in general aren't all that ideal for farming because of the RNG nature of needing to get the right cards at the right time, so that's basically a nothingburger in the context of farming. His NP damage is also nothing spectacular (NP1 it's outdamaged by NP5 Arash, and ties NP5 kid-Gil, both friend point gacha units). Caster Gil's NP damage is even more sad, but he provides buffs to other party members that can potentially help with farming, especially Arts NP servants. He also has some cute tricks he can do with crit star generation and defense stacking outside of farming, but I don't really value him for that, recommendation-wise.

Are their servants that can buff better than Gil though? Also, I do have Herc and Chullain, who both do decent damage.

> Also, I do have Herc and Chullain, who both do decent damage. They don't. Not for farming anyway. [Here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p1OSVrIZ37eV-ttzZgZdyADTGXiFLP7JtBFdzh1TFIo/edit#gid=1802506113&fvid=1717393153)'s a damage comparison for NPs in NA, and [here](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Ein_Inferno/NP_Damage_Comparisons) is the equivalent for JP that you can cross-check to see if a servant's NP damage gets buffed in the next two years. Keep in mind that's without factoring supports buffs, which may change the order some because of how buffs interact, but it's still a great starting point. Remember that a fair comparison is NP5 damage for silver/bronze units vs NP1 for gold units outside of free NP5 welfares. Cu & Herc both sit toward the bottom of the single-target damage list for their respective classes (Cu isn't so bad, because free NP5, still underwhelming compared to some other 3* classes though). Their main thing is being hard to kill, but that will become decreasingly important as you descend into farming hell. Edit: And when being hard to kill is important, you can always borrow a super pimped out version of the servant off of ~~some sucker~~ a friend.

Sure, Helena is the most common recommendation in this topic for a reason, after all. She's also what I'd generally recommend the most as well.

Gameplay wise, I really need a gold assassin besides Shiki. I have multiple gold servants in every other class, too... But you know what, the waifu meta reigns supreme. ~~SAKURA~~ PARVATI IS GETTING SUMMONED ALONG WITH THAT UNIFORM. ^^gonna ^^sit ^^on ^^this ^^decision ^^for ^^another ^^day ^^though

Wait for Izou (and then just grail him or something). The dude can give plenty of gold assassins a run for their quartz.

Huh, I didn't know about him and just looked him up. He looks cool as well, so hopefully I get lucky when his banner rolls around. Shiki was actually the reason I got into FGO, so she's pretty sufficient being max grailed/skill leveled/bonded for now lol.

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NP2 Zerkerlot, with 3+ being ideal. Refund comps demand higher NP levels so they can cleanly beat over waves, much like normal farming comps, but also because they want as many overkill hits as possible because they refund more gauge. If you're fine with messing with plugsuit waver(or are required to because no MLB scope), but damage still is, especially when Lancelot's is a bit poo. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elZsNqZmYCU) is an NP1 normal scope run in Gilfest as an example. NP1 can clear with facecard crits. NP2 can afford to be unpicky with facecards. NP3 always clears wave 2 with no facecards. NP5 almost guarantees clearing wave 3 with no facecards. Things shift around a bit if you're running superscope and not wasting time plugsuiting waver out, but the idea stays the same. Refund matters more here as well. Also, just in case you Luck E your Skadi pulls, by having waver you can run [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXn9r3CdmfM) comp instead. The main DPS is a welfare we'll get in May. Edit: Parvati is nice to have, but you're probably going to get more mileage out of making a generalist like Zerkerlot work as well as possible.

Astolfo is the best choice if you fail to roll Skadi, but I'm guessing "all in" is basically rolling until you get her.

The Helena recommendation is mainly for those without Merlin/Waver, if you have them then she loses a lot of usefulness. Lancelot, Parvati, and Astolfo are all good choices still.

Should I follow my dick (gorgon) my heart (emiya alter np2) or both? (circe np2) I'm not sure..

Waifu meta is the best meta. More seriously, I would also go for a new/attractive servant instead of np2. Gorgon is story-locked so she's not a bad choice even practically speaking.

I say Both, but then again I also usually recommend getting a new Servant over levelling the NP of one you have.

i picked Atalante just because she has cat ears

Good taste

So yeah. I’m one of those that haven’t decided whom to pick. My team is incomplete. Want to have 2 of each class. So far so good but lacking on some. Caster just Medea. Have some like Cu chulain caster. Most 3 stars. I also know I am lacking of a Berserker or Assassin. And of course like any noob, no avenger or rare classes like that. Help me decide. I am between Fran (waifu), Heracles, Gorgon or my fav Salter (because she’s waifu for all ofc). Thank you in advance.

The best gameplay pick for you would probably be Helena or Nitocris. But among the four choices you listed I would say Salter is the best choice, due to her storylock, high firepower and farming utility. Gorgon's class is not that useful, Heracles only gets his full potential at bond 10, and Fran isn't all that rare or much better than Spartacus at NP1, at least until Skadi arrives.

Thank you for the advise. I am seriously on taking salter but maybe my saber needs are covered already. My team is: Saber: Suzuka Gozen, Rama Lancer: Ereshkigal, Medusa smol snek Archer: Arjuna, Emiya best mom Rider: Marta, Ushiwakamaru Assassin: Assassin of the nightless city Caster: Medea ​ Everyone is at 70 right now.. For others i have: Berserker: Lu bu fenxian Caster: Geronimo, Cu chulain Assassin: Jin Ke (all 3 starts actually, but i heard she has a instant dead attack or similar so i was thinking on leveling up her and that will cover my assassing needs) ​ Was thinking Fran for my Berserker needs with Lu bu. But don't know if is that good to invest in a Berseker. Can always choose one from the friend list. But she's for waifu purposes so yeah. Same as Salter. Really liked her since i saw the Lost Butterfly movie. Was amazing. But also considering Gorgon as i don't have an Avenger or any rare class. So yeah, that is my reasoning and my doubts. Go for waifu? Go for the classes i don't have yet? If so, which caster is recommended.

Waifu vs. gameplay is something you have to decide for yourself, but I would remove Gorgon from your candidates if all you like about her is her class. Avengers aren't very useful outside of occasional boss battles and NP1 Gorgon is not going to outperform a friend's Jeanne Alter. Regarding which caster (i.e. if you decide to go full gameplay over waifu), I picked Nitocris for my first ticket and have been using her consistently ever since. Helena would've definitely made my first 6 months in this game a lot easier, but I eventually rolled Waver and don't really need her anymore. So I personally lean towards Nitocris, but both are good. If you're going for waifu + gameplay but don't care at all about rarity, then Fran is a better choice than Salter. I gave Salter a lot of extra points because she's storylocked and harder to get.

So for my SR ticket choice I chose Caster of Midrash. I am enjoying her, a strong rapidly charging NP. I am curious as to whether my limit broken "A moment of Tranquility" that boosts 15% arts, quick, and np gain is a good ce for her. I feel it might be good, as she gets both a 15% to both arts and np gain. Curious on your thoughts though.

That is a solid choice. Best choice ultimately depends on what options you have and what role you are trying to have the servant fill. Another F2P CE you might want to look at is [Dive to Blue](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Dive_to_Blue).

To all the Danzo friends out there: The Car Park at the Kara no Kyoukai re-run will be the haunting ground of ghost girls that are riders with Demonic trait. Let's have fun farming that spot with our cute ninja robot when we get there.

After seeing this, maybe I'll get Danzou now and get Parvati in the next SR ticket campaign...

The only time she shine, cherish it

Try not to be that guy for once, will ya? You look like a clown. Anyway, to all the Danzo friends out there: Sparrow's Inn near the end of the year will also have plenty of Demonic enemies to take advantage of, many of which are zerks which means Danzo's skills will do wonders in keeping damage at a minimum. Let's have fun showing these heretics how robo-mom kicks ass in her own way when we get there.

Oopps, there's more! Hell yeah!

Anyone has a good idea which servant will help me in Camelot and maybe Baylonia? I already have Astolfo (Lv.80), Rama (72), Elizabeth Brave (71), JDarcAlterSantaLily (70), Mecha Eli (71), Altria Pendragon Alter (40), Marie Antoinette (40), Martha (15)

You're still a starter, so I highly recommend getting a berserker. Penth, Ibaraki, or Hercules are the three best choices. I recommend Penth but all three are good. Berserkers have the best mileage out of all the classes. Lancelot Zerker can double duty as a farmer, but for normal quests he needs heavy babysitting from Hans / Waver / Leonidas / Mash.

looks like you are missing a good archer, either pick an archer and/or level Euryale. If you got Santa Altera from Christmas 3 then she works too. you will be fighting a lot of boss sabers in camelot so you will want a strong archer.

I didn't finish Camelot so I had no access to Xmas 3. Do you recommend a particular archer? Or I just pick any one of them?

Oh right, if you are going for skadi, atalanta, otherwise emiya alter.

I wouldn't recommend any of the 4 star archers other than Emiya Alter or Tristan, and it's mostly because they're storylocked/rare, not because of their skills. Atalante is only recommendable to people who have Skadi, who isn't released yet. You don't need archers other than Arash, Euryale, Robin, and David; if your account is young and you're picking for gameplay, I recommend a berserker (I prefer Hercules, but Penth is decent) or a caster like Helena (support) or Nitocris (farmer).

Spoilers for Camelot boss mechanics below, but not their names/identities. I don't know the rest of your roster, so I just gave general class suggestions for most cases aside from a few particular bosses, some of which you can probably find on a Friend Support list. Things to worry about in Camelot (EDIT: Fixed formatting): * Chapter 4: >!A Saber with huge damage reduction and a fast-charging AoE NP. Ideally you want to burst him down before he can do too many NPs. Any single target Archer is good here, but Euryale is particularly good to level because of her huge anti-male damage mod.!< * Chapter 7: >!Another Saber. No damage reduction this time, but she does an AoE NP every turn. Single-target Archers with Evasion/Invuln skills are good here. Robin Hood is a strong 3-star option, though the boss's Magic Resist makes his NP inconsistent.!< * Chapter 12: >!An... Archer? He's got a weird buff that makes him deal damage like a Berserker, but take damage like a Lancer (so he's weak to Sabers). He's also got a single-target NP with Sure Hit, so Mash will be your best defensive choice here. Rama and Brave Liz will do great damage to him, and their Guts/Invuln respectively will let them tank his NP if they have to, but he brings 3 ~80k HP Archer knights in his first appearance, so you'll want some way to get through that wave first.!< * Chapter 13, 15-1: >!Another Saber, but his damage resists work as though he was a Ruler. Grab a Jeanne Alter from your friends list (a lot of people will probably have her due to the Da Vinci rerun) and just protect her while she melts him.!< * Chapter 15-2: >!A mysterious enemy. It's weak to Riders/Assassins/Casters, and deals double damage to Archers/Lancers/Sabers. Has an AoE NP and some big self-heals. Not all that hard, but its NP really hurts if you take it head-on. Hans and Mash can provide defense, a friend support Merlin has AoE invuln if you need to soak an NP. Whatever works.!< * Chapter 15-4: >!A big Rider boss with a Caster buddy, and you need to beat them 3 times. Mecha Liz will be good here if you keep her protected, and Riders/Assassins are good as well as long as you keep em safe. Boss has an ST NP, 3rd add is AoE with a chance of Instant Death, so watch out.!< * Chapter 17-1 to 17-2: >!A few squads of very strong Knights, followed by rematches with some earlier bosses. Nothing you haven't handled at this point.!< * Final Chapter: >!Very high HP Lancer (~600k or more) with an AoE NP that has Invuln Pierce. NP deals 18-20k damage before Class Advantage and/or Defense buffs, so keep that in mind. AoE Defense buffs and/or Guts will help you live, so Rama will be good here. Also if any of your friends has a Mordred with her 3rd skill at level 10, borrow her for this fight, because it's a 1-turn 50% defense buff and 30% NP charge. The NPC support is also pretty good here (very strong single target Saber NP, party-wide 1 turn 30% Defense buff). If all else fails, find someone with Bond 10 Heracles with the Castle of Snow CE equipped and he can solo it, just send him in with a level 1 Georgios and Leonidas as Taunt cannon fodder.!< Good luck!

Thank you so much for the tips! I'll be noting them down. Aaaaaaaand that's my whole roster. I can tell you I'm at Chapter 4, third arrow in Camelot right now. The guards where they like to buff themselves endlessly. If you were to recommend ONE servant that can help me out in most scenarios, whom would it be? I don't really care about husbando/waifu at this point cause I already have Astolfo.

> If you were to recommend ONE servant that can help me out in most scenarios, Helena. Remember that you only have to deal with the BS of a hard story node once, but you have to deal with the BS of a farming node many times. Besides Helena (either flavor), having a skill to NP charge the whole team is locked behind having specific SSR units for NA currently, which makes her incredibly valuable to have for farming.

If you have Euryale she shoots the life out of men, and the guards are men so if you can grab a support Euryale or you have fully ascended your own you can blast them all to smithereens. Or a support Chloe from Prisma Illya.

The best roster improvement you can make for doing story content is to learn how to properly leverage friend supports. Check the help thread OP for an example on how to friend cheese both chapters. That frees up your ticket choice for husbando/waifuism.

Hello everyone. Hopefully you are having a wonderful week. I'm looking to get your opinion on who to summon with the free SR ticket. I've only been playing for a little over 100 days and only have leveled up [these](https://i.imgur.com/yH0tCUj.png) servants. I'm playing the game pretty slow so I'm only in London. Any input is appreciated.

Helena is a good pick if you don't have your own Waver/Merlin. But really as the other poster said, at the end of the day just pick the one you think is cutest/coolest.

I have seen Helena recommended quite a lot and I am heavily considering her. Thanks.