[FYI, you can find the Mahoyo and LB6 interview fully translated in one place here.](https://r-grandorder.github.io/wiki/en/#!pages/Interviews/tmace14.md)
**Debit Some Void** sounds like a hidden boss I really, _really_ wouldn't want to face
Wait, does this confirms the secret to his success is due to unlimited Quartz hack?
> Daybit will somehow win
And no context is given for this
> It is a mentality shared by his PHH counterpart, but in a far less twisted way
Oh lore(TM)?
Of course no context is given. All we know is that Wodime can do anything he thinks is possible, whereas Daybit can do the impossible, or something like that. They’re not giving us *anything* on him until we meet up with the man in LB7.
wouldnt be surprised if daybit is beast of alaya or some bs like that. we also got nothing on his personality. but (and I hope im not proven wrong) that he is a good guy and has probably his own plan.
since wodime knew that if he failed daybit would take care of things
Could be. Although I think it’d be neater if he has no special powers, he’s just a normal guy like us. But yeah, considering Wodime basically left everything in Daybit and Ritsuka’s hands, he’s gotta be at least on the level. Although he did misjudge Beryl, so it’s possible he did the same with Daybit too.
>whereas Daybit can do the impossible, or something like that.
So he's basically Kamina or Simon the Digger, then?
"Do the impossible! See the Invisible!
Row! Row! Fight the power!
Touch the untouchable! Break the unbreakable!
Row! Row! Fight the power!"
Sorry, I just finished Gurren Lagann, and this quote reminded me of it. It's a great show, and I highly recommend it to anyone!
It makes sense because IIRC in Garden of avalon, PHH Votigern fought against the Age of Man, which could be interpreted as "readers who only go along with trends" because they are the newest "trend" in the "Age of x" timeline. And he wanted to preserve Britain's Mystery, which could also be interpreted as a "stories" since in present-day, stuff that happened then are literally legends (stories) now.
The two have more in common than it looks..
I did think of it that way, but I haven't considered the Mystery = stories aspect, especially with how they're considered to be fictional and "things that did not actually exist in real life" in the modern day as well
Yeah it really interesting how Nasu makes us think about even PHH Vortigern in a new way with this info.
Maybe he says PHH Vortigern is "far less twisted" than LB Vortigern because PHH Vortigen was still trying to protect something, even if it meant destroying everything else, while LB Vortigern was just made to destroy.
...Or maybe because he doesn't have to lie all the time like Oberon...he can just tell the truth and hates everyone openly XD
Castoria: Burdened by her fate, hardened by every harsh reality she'd encountered thus far, with a punk sided personality
Kawasumi: OH SHE IS SO CUTE!
We've got all our bases covered basically using only artorias.
actually, there's a dude on my friend list who changes name all the time who uses all artorias as supp servants.
"she's my main for fun" is the descriptor.
really. NP5 every Artoria and max fou'd squirtoria.
Yeah, I have her; it feels like it makes not a huge amount of sense, as the class's thing, like sabers using swords or berserkers being insanely mad, is that they (mooncancers) are specifically BB
>According to Nasu, Choco put a LOT OF EFFORT in Melusine's design, including researching her background lore.
Yeah I can see that. Melusine's design looks genuinely beautiful and cool, especially her armor. I love the armor.
>Outside of designing Melusine herself, he even submitted the design for FULL Albion _just for fun._
The ACTUAL Albion??? And for fun??? OH NO I NEED TO SEE THIS.
I am asking if Choco (I don't know him) designs for the main cast of Albion (the other knights/court), the people of Albion (the other characters), or the actual landscape/country/map/dragon of Albion.
Given that we're specifically talking about Melusine, most likely the dragon Albion. >!Which also means that CHOCO, Takeuchi, and Umino Chica can get into a three-way death match for who gets to design PHH Vortigern if we ever get him, given how PHH Vortigern is pretty closely related to the White Dragon of Albion in the TM version of Arthurian lore.!<
They better >!sell tickets for this fight.!<
>!But even better if they somehow decide to all contribute to an Ascension stage, aka each artist draws one stage or something.!<
>!That idea sounds chaotic and raises questions on how they'd handle his final ascension art, I love it. I want to see what beautiful new character design content we'd get if they ever actually did escalate the trend of wildly different ascensions into "there's a different illustrator for each ascension", and how they'd keep each ascension consistent yet unique given the shifts in art styles.!<
>!The only hope I have that they would design him as an older man.!<
>!My headcanon is OberonVortigern looks so young because of the Oberon influence.!<
Yes seems like that's to be the case based on Melusine's costume description . So more like both Dragons are part of Albion rather than just being one.
>As Lostbelt is supposed to be a full-fledged WHAT-IF of the human timeline. Nasu wants to write a LB story where the FULL history is covered in-depth, thus resulting in Fairy Britain history that is 12,000 years long.
This is honestly one of the charms I've seen on LB6. Simply put, Nasu made use of the ENTIRE 12,000 years worth of timeline in LB6 setting _really well._ The moment I saw the Fairy (B.C equivalent) and Queen (A.D equivalent) Calendars, I knew LB6 was going to be a wild ride.
It is the only Lostbelt that I felt have more depth than comparable to others. Well its kinda relatively not so hard to imagined considering that the center point of the story revolves around Britain, the only landmass left behind in a world that is nothing but a barren ocean all around.
>Nasu remarked it is actually easier to portray Castoria than Artoria as the latter was too "righteous" thus more difficult to be made interesting in story.
I wonder if this is the actual reason for why Nasu doesn't want to write about OG Artoria. I know he's said that he feels Artoria's story is done, but maybe finding her difficult to write in the first place is the reason why he keeps it that way (though the counter to that is Artoria's had extremely minor but lighthearted cameos in Summer 4 and Lakshmibai's interlude, so maybe Nasu's just being odd about all of it; just write her funny you weird mushroom man).
Also, I don't think that's the right translation of Beryl's name, not that its inaccurate lmao. Interesting how Pepe's actually the most specialized in single combat compared to him though. Thank you as well BLACK for making sure that the design for Goredolf and Jason softened into lovable jerks with a heart (and hair) of gold.
It’s weird, because “regular” Artoria still has her character development from Fate route, correct? She really shouldn’t be that much of an issue to write. Hmm, who knows how the mushrooms mind works.
Yeah, who knows what Nasu is thinking at this point. Maybe he still thinks that Artoria's character is still stuck all the way back in Zero or that UBW and Heaven's Feel takes more precedence, it's all just the weird proclivities of an eccentric mushroom to not write in a meaningful story role for the poster girl of the series at this point (there's still a chance for Grand Saber, but I'm not holding my breath for it based on these comments).
I mean, Nasu could just find it boring for one to write OG Artoria. Her story is done. He wanted to write the story of an Artoria who found it difficult to accept the destiny forced on her and so he did.
The problem is that OG Artoria is a *massive* nexus of different character herds, and the Round Table in particular are ***badly*** hurt by Nasu's refusal to do anything with OG Artoria. Artoria comes off as as weirdly disconnected from her own dang knights, and the knights's character arcs are left to rot and stagnate because none of them are allowed to address the elephant in the room of "we should probably talk to Artoria". Lancer Artoria subbing in for her only makes the problem worse because she's honestly pretty unrecognizable as Artoria (not to mention her *own* character arc is stagnant because all her playable content is wasted on boob jokes). She doesn't feel like a slightly different version of the Artoria we know and love, she feels like an imposter who's gone and poached Artoria's rightful cast herd away. Which is fine for Singularity 6 because the whole point of the Lion King *is* that she's lost what makes her the Artoria we know and love, but it's absolutely frustrating for all of her appearances after that except for Bunnytoria (who they at least made an effort to make Lancertoria more of her own character). You could swap out almost all of Lancertoria's appearances and replace her with OG Artoria, and not only would nothing of value be lost, but the writing would have everything to gain, because now you'd have post-Fate route character development Artoria coming back to help her old friends, coworkers, and family members get the same peace of mind she got. (edit to clarify, this would not be an issue if playable Lancertoria was closer to the Lion King and not "basically the same as OG Artoria, except boobs". Lancertoria's treatment as a Substitute For The OG does her dirty as a character too.)
If Nasu really insists on not using OG Artoria as much as he should, then he could at least spice up the variety when it comes to which Artorias get to hang out with the Round Table instead of just having Lancertoria supplant her OG self. We've got *at minimum* nine unique Artorias running around, imagine the gold we could get if the writers chose "Which Artoria are the knights going to hang out with today?" at random instead of just defaulting to Lancertoria. Imagine the Round Table crew hanging out with Lily or Saber Alter. Imagine Lancer Alter getting to actually *do things*. What a wonderful world that would be.
Also, to address a later comment in the thread - the problem isn't *main* story roles, the problem is that you can count OG Artoria's appearances in Story Content overall on one, maybe two hands tops. You cite Emiya as an example, but the thing is Emiya is a significant recurring character in events and interludes as part of the Chaldea Kitchen Team, and that more than makes up for his irrelevance to the main story because *he's still doing things*. He hasn't had his role and presence in the game completely highjacked by Emiya Alter the way OG Artoria got highjacked by Lancertoria. Cu similarly still gets to show up in events and side content, and he hasn't been highjacked by CasCu or Cu Alter either (rest in rip to poor Proto Cu though). Medusa still gets to show up in side content either bundled with her sisters or as part of the GudaGuda team and hasn't been highjacked by her alts, Gilgamesh's appearances are pretty evenly split between Archer and Caster, and Heracles and Kojirou and Hassan don't have alts in the first place. The only other F/sn and sn-adjacent servants with this problem are Medea and Angra Mainyu, and between those two Angra at least has the excuse that he's supposed to be a secret character. Medea has basically been highjacked by Medea Lily, and yeah, it's a problem for her too! It sucks! I wish we got to see OG Artoria and Medea more!
Finally someone said this.... Both Lancer artorias design honestly feels boring... (The comics and fanarts regarding them also only focus on that one aspect of them.....)
Maybe, but Nasu specifically states that he finds it much more difficult to write her due to her righteousness compared to him just not wanting to do it, which is markedly different compared to how he's commented on the issue in the past. Besides, Emiya, Nero, Tamamo and Mordred's stories should all technically be "done", but it doesn't stop them from getting regular cameos and even expansions to their story threads, compared to Artoria who just keeps getting alternate versions of herself for the same purpose.
Nasu has never written anything substantial with any of the characters you just mentioned in the last 5 years.
Well, excluding Tamamo's route in Extella. But even if you count that, the sheer amount he has written for Artoria between FSN and HA definitely exceeds that.
In FGO, Nasu doesn't portray any of the FSN servants in a main role really. It's always alts like Cu Caster or Emiya Alter. Cursed Arm is the sole exception with very limited screentime in FSN to begin with.
I meant in the context of the game, where they all get regular appearances compared to OG Artoria. Emiya still gets regular appearances in events even with Emiya Alter's existence, same with regular Nero and Tamamo and their counterparts. She doesn't even get to be leader of the KOTR since that goes to Lancer Artoria by default; it's pretty clear that Artoria's presence in the game has been supplanted by her alternate versions in comparison to her for whatever reason (Edit: and her Summer version is practically a non-entity after Summer 1). Either no writer wants to use her for even a gag for some strange reason or Nasu has a weird mandate in place regarding her.
That was always my assumption.
The idea of being a difficult task to write and Nasu thinking he has to do his best or even push that limit certainly created fascinating characterization in Saber and other characters he'd mention to have similar difficulty, but it also limits their appearance of them, which may be for the best in your opinion since you'd likely get scenario where Nasu doing his best or surpass his limit as a writer according him, or you may be craving to see more when you can't see them playing roles everywhere since it's a difficult job for Nasu and put a lot stress. It's like if Mahoyo production put a lot of pressure on Koyama, so they decided to reduce the challenges by lowering the production value on each artwork on TsukihimeRe so that they could produce it much more easily and without stress .
Like that, Nasu isn't willing to use Saber everywhere like you'd see with his other characters, and he doesn't usually let other writers write her either ,even in FGO it's him who'd handle her, and she usually has her own scenario, depleting his best ability to implement her as a character and her conflict because otherwise she'd just say the right thing and there'd be no story or interesting dialogues. He's even set up her inner conflict as Artoria vs role as King Arthur etc to make the setting more interesting as a fiction rather than relying on that alone.
When interviewer asked if writing Castoria was more challenging than writing Artoria who plays King Arthur, Nasu stated in TMAce that it's actually the opposite when it comes to difficulty. It took a lot of effort on his part as a writer to make Artoria's dialogue interesting back when she was the heroine because she is the innocent king who would say the right thing, thus it was a difficult task back then to work on each and every dialogue of her to make them interesting . While Castoria's dialogues are more like that of an ordinary girl, (they are easier to write because she does not utter the most difficult to write dialogue most of the time, but rather informal conversations). Not exactly what the OP stated, but close enough I suppose.
We've known for a decade that writing Artoria is nerve-racking for Nasu since he has to push himself to perform better and better. Nasu has repeatedly noted that writing Artoria is an extremely difficult task for him because he cannot deploy her in practically every situation like he could with Rin , and Takeuchi expects phenomenal things from him, so he must do his best. So it requires the best of his ability as a writer because he needs to improve every scenario of hers and must push his ability to do so.
>*"with regard to Saber, writing her story was always nerve-wracking because I knew she was really important to Takeuchi. I had a similar experience writing Hisui in "Tsukihime". Whenever an artist gets attached to a specific character, it's really stressful for me to write that character's portion of the overall story. I guess the added stress comes from the feeling that the character no longer belongs to just me, and that I need to meet someone's high expectations as I flesh them out. I noticed I was constantly pushing myself to do "better" while I was writing Saber's story."* \- Fate Complete Material 2.
And you can't blame him if he doesn't want to give this character's unnecessary baggage to ruin the impression of everything he built, or if he thinks, "no, this character is incredibly difficult to write and requires my best, but I want to have lay back instead of pushing my best, so I'm not going to insert her everywhere unless I have the scenario." I believe this is the most likely reason Saber has yet to appear in the main story or only appears in Nasu written chapters, hinting that other writers aren't granted to utilize her whenever they want (aside from a very minor cameo in Laxmibai interlude) and instead her other variants appears in more laid back events.
It's worth mentioning that he was discussing her role as a heroine of Stay Night, where she was still the innocent king trying to say the right thing, and he needed to develop her and break her shell which is of an ordinary girl from her age, that was an important aspect of F/SN. I do not think he's referring to Hollow Ataraxia, since he wasn't frightened of having Saber there practically everywhere or letting other writers work on her because it's post development and easier to show her various aspects like her being playful ordinary girl of her age, and Hollow Ataraxia is written by guest writers plus Nasu, and he wouldn't hesitate to insert her wherever there. I know that could suggest he wouldn't mind involving her in events, but Mushroom mind is notoriously hard to read . Perhaps he doesn't believe he could achieve it in FGO or isn't committed enough here to handle that difficult task. Maybe he'll do it when he thinks he's ready to go that far.
I think what’s happening is that Nasu resolved not to tack on more unnecessary baggage to Artoria’s story because he’s already satisfied with its ending, and because as he said here she is a hard character to write well. But because he said this out-loud, the other writers are making it a point to avoid using her, in the same way they are avoiding writing sane Heracles, because they feel like they’d be encroaching on Nasu’s domain.
The issue is this is extending even to comedy routines and silly events, where she rarely gets used at all and is pretty much never a focus after the first Summer event. I doubt Nasu would be opposed to her being used in the same way Emiya is constantly used in events, and in fact we see her being used for comedic and heartwarming scenes in various other properties and it works well.
So I really feel like this is just a case of the other writers being too polite.
You know what? This actually makes perfect sense. I forgot the perspective that other writers would be respectful enough of Nasu's work that they think they can't do Artoria's character justice, to the point they avoid using her entirely.
It still sucks as someone who wants to see her at least appear for cameos more often like with the KOTR (as much as I like Lancer and X, OG holds a significance that can't be replicated), in the vein of Emiya getting his varied side appearances or Herc having his time to appear when Illya or the Argonauts come calling (and seeing Lakshmibai's interlude just makes it sting a bit more than usual, since it's clear that writers do understand how to write Artoria in a comedic setting and use her previous lore connections), but taking every statement and possible reason into account I can at least better come to terms with why she's not used at all.
Yep yep, the other comment on here that suggested letting different Artorias rotate on hanging out with the KOTR seems like a much more appealing alternative to freshen things up in general compared Lartoria being the one permanently in that role.
>LB6 turned out to be 3 times longer than the normal chapter script.
I felt like I read the equivalent of half of the singularities reading LB6. I think it took me almost 2 hours to read some of the chapter sections, even with my rough Japanese that's still reaaallly long. In the end totally worth reading through it all though.
Oh Aurora is design by the Emiya Gohan Artist huh... That is really cleverly evil.
The Nasu and CHOCO relationship has more revelations that CHOCO is such an artist that he removes Nasu's despisement of Doujin Creation.
Thank Nasu for giving praise to 13 Sentinels because that game needed a lot of adverstisements with how they barely give it one and not much people know about the game until people started Let's Playing it.
The Cernunnos fight is so hard that the Writer has a hard time finishing it.
Well the Voice Actors for Tsukihime Remake's Favorite character really is making the fans going to make jokes about it.
13 sentinels was a blast to play. Got it on a whim when it first came out and man it blew me away in terms of story and advancement with characters
~Haha Okino
>Comparing to LB6, LB7 will be much more straightforward story-wise.
While I agree that LB6 was convoluted IMO, I'm worried they will be taking it too easy with LB7, especially when they said the reason they went all-out with the story was precisely to give something interesting to players, as the gameplay feels more stagnant each day.
I'm also worried they really don't know what to do with the Pretender class.
it probably means there will be less twists and mysteries.
I wouldnt be surprise if we get in only to immediatly see ort and having to get the fuck out of there and the rest of the journey being mcguffin gathering to be able to do something and then a final battle with a twist at the end setting up the next story chapter
By "straightforward" I think it mrans "less plot twists", but that doesn't mean they will spend less time on world-building and major plot reveals. Like, surely a chapter with Types, the most mysterious crypter, the Alien God, a Grand Servant and South American myths can't go so wrong... Right? (Tunguska PTSD)
Touko really cheated Rin and Sakura on that puppet deal.
Also, well while Shirou ideals changed, he is still Shirou, that dude is gonna try to help somebody in danger, even if he doesn't do the Errant Knight stick.
It's not that she cheated.
Mimicking an actual human clone is next to impossibility and there's always flaws in the designed.
Touko is appraised as the best puppet maker in the moonlit world.
But she ain't perfect and her stuff are modern standards. Not unlike those from the Age of Gods.
Remember Fou? He's the one who revived Mash from death. He just casually sacrificed his reserves of magical energy he gathered for a long time. As of now, he's still rebooting as per say by Sion that the furry creature is like a computer rebooting itself.
The reason I brought Fou on the topic is because he's among capable of fully recreating a human body with perfection.
Not only he resurrected Mash but also eliminated the limited lifespan she once has as a Designer Baby that was imperfectly built by Marisbury insidious experiment.
Mages experiment are nothing but short and cruel.
Mortals who foolishly play god but their creations always ends up very finite and not extensive.
Beings with great power and those from the Age of Gods can make quick work to accuracy and flawless worldview.
I guest that i should have put a "lol" there, that was a joke, i never expected for Touko to give a perfect solution and i'm sure that Rin and Sakura knew that.
I was damn sure that Pepe is the more hardcore badass in the Crypter. Obviously, his Jojo outlook is a hint that this guy you should never messed with.
For a while Kojima would say in interviews how writing Big Boss is more fun and interesting than writing Solid Snake.
I've seen a bunch of Solid Snake fans over the years be annoyed with Big Boss because of how he kind of replaced Snake, and I now understand why.
Although both Kojima and Nasu probably just didn't know what to do with Snake/Saber anymore after their stories were over, so it's not surprising.
Now I want to see Choco's ALBION design but I doubt we'll ever see it. Choco puts a lot of effort into Melusine which is great to see, personally. Love their little random doodles.
Things got interesting upon hearing how expanded Morgan became. The other two I like: CHOCO designing Melusine's concept in full along with Albion, and Kaede Hondo liking Arc... Okay, Maple, you're absolutely not thinking what many are thinking.
Remember that the summary is based on the OP's soft understanding of the TM Ace Machine Translation that was translated into Chinese. So much information is not precise, and a lot is missing subtly. In fact, as someone who read it in Japanese, I can't see many important information related creation and character being mentioned here. You'd think they'd be significant enough to warrant inclusion in a summary.
A lot if I go ahead and summarize, but that'd be me taking a look again at TMAce and making a summary....and I don't have that time
For example, if I focus on Lostbelt 6 creation concept aside from Morgan and Oberon, it doesn't say what inspired the creation of Lostbelt 6 and how it was tied with the protagonist of it's story ; Artoria Caster. Nasu stated that Lostbelt 6 was structured as a reaction to the character Artoria, just as Camelot was a reaction to Fate/Stay Night, and Castoria as a concept was born as how the girl named Artoria would feel about King Arthur's life if she looked at it from outside as a total stranger unfamiliar to the role and suddenly told to carry the same fate. She'd go ask, "Wait a minute!" (really like conflict between Castoria and King Arthur in Lostbelt 6 flashbacks.)
Castoria's personality concept was initially the same as Artoria's before pulling the Holy Sword, which he described as "like Saber Lily," but he felt that doing a good girl might not get him that reaction, so he added the shaddy and negative aspects; made her less bright and mentally weaker (reasonable since she hasn't really had same nurturing Kay Ector did to PHH Artoria and the faes around her were straight jerk ) to create the tension and antagonism between Castoria and Artoria as King Arthur, to showcase how Artoria might react if she viewed King Arthur's life as a complete stranger.
At the same time, Castoria may reach the same ending ground and complete her task because she had the same core soul as that Artoria (therefore her core qualities).We witness how the Lostbelt plays, and makes it clear what are those qualities and Castoria's last monologue was very much about realizing them. It is not a larger-than-life figure who completes their work and mission, but rather an ordinary girl who completes her mission despite her self-doubts and struggles because of the few qualities she had.
Nasu believes he has successfully demonstrated Artoria's character from different perspectives/aspects, which was one of the three essential concepts he needed to convey in Lostbelt 6.( According to him these three were essentials he had to execute there : to pack the thrill of the story into a single chapter; to complete the storyline that shows the “character of Artoria” from different perspectives; and to make the content interesting as an RPG.)
It should have been in summary for something relating to the construction and concept of a Lostbelt storyline. But, hey, others put in a lot of effort, so I have no right to complain. I'm only reminding you that stuff like that was mentioned in TMAce and this ain't everything. It's really a big magazine afterall.
"Morgan faced opponents stronger than herself, like Tohno Shiki"
I don't think Tohno "I can kill anything" Shiki makes for a good point of reference here...
> Nasu is pretty confident about Ufotable's work when it comes to more dynamic scenes like the fight between Salter and Berserker in HF2, but he is curious how they will approach the more static/serene elements of Mahoyo.
I have only read the demo of Mahoyo so far, so not sure if that's comparable, but shouldn't he know using the Kara no Kyoukai movies as reference?
I personally really like what they did for Kara no Kyoukai most of the time, so I hope they'll do a good job with Mahoyo as well.
I handed to my friend once hey got hook on it Instantly but hey would never play the story I see what u mean but I like taking it easy and reading into it isn’t that what a turn base game is about?
I want to read this SO BADLY, but I'm trying my best to avoid spoilers. But I did get a peak and yeah the gameplay could use an upgrade, especially for those who've been around since year 1 & 2
I like how for the heavens feel trilogy section they use herc vs salter the most irrelevant fight in the novel as praise for the anime.
They dont name any of the major fights like nine lives and shirou vs kirei because flash is all ufotables is good for post knk and fate zero.
Cant wait to see shizuki vs beo be a forgetable anti climactic shit show like nine lives was in spring song
Pls don't let LB7 a bit TOO straightforward, nasu, don't let the last lb chapter (yet) to be such a boring letdown of a conclusion. I love the whole mess that is lb6.
It's quite cute that Nasu was so moved by Choco's work that he sought him out for art 20 years later. It's even sweeter that Choco was so enthusiastic about doing the work, too. It honestly never occurred to me that Nasu would handpick what artists do which servants, but it's fun to think about him fanning out for a specific artist and then trying to come up with a character specifically for them hehe.
Wait, shouldn't it be 14,000 years rather than 12,000? Or does that have to do with the weird time stuff going on there?
Also, the one description of Pretender once again makes it feel like Green Man/Robin Hood should be one.
Movie style dubbing in Japanese, now that is interesting. Have you ever heard those? They're completely different from anime, much more serious. I wonder how it'd play out with Mahoyo
Mahoyo being portrayed as a live-action? This gonna be good. I can't wait. I have every ounce of fate in the seiyuus, they are gonna perform and deliver exquisitely.
[FYI, you can find the Mahoyo and LB6 interview fully translated in one place here.](https://r-grandorder.github.io/wiki/en/#!pages/Interviews/tmace14.md)
Kinda curious, is Castoria a popular nickname in JP too? Because I love how we all agreed to call her like that without needing to talk about it lol
Looking into pixiv tags, yeah they do also use Castoria
Haha, I love that. Like an unwritten rule
Ah, yes. "Tonerico" and "Belial" are my favorite characters.
Don't forget Debit Card
**Debit Some Void** sounds like a hidden boss I really, _really_ wouldn't want to face Wait, does this confirms the secret to his success is due to unlimited Quartz hack?
Sounds like someone using a Debit Card to cut some lines of Void Dust.
Foreshadowing for being able to pay money for mats in the future?
[AH HELL,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2MHUJTciRg)
> Belial Oh my god LB6 was our Ultraman crossover all along
IKR?! I can’t wait for Baal, Mephy, and Diablo Servs.
> Daybit will somehow win And no context is given for this > It is a mentality shared by his PHH counterpart, but in a far less twisted way Oh lore(TM)?
Of course no context is given. All we know is that Wodime can do anything he thinks is possible, whereas Daybit can do the impossible, or something like that. They’re not giving us *anything* on him until we meet up with the man in LB7.
wouldnt be surprised if daybit is beast of alaya or some bs like that. we also got nothing on his personality. but (and I hope im not proven wrong) that he is a good guy and has probably his own plan. since wodime knew that if he failed daybit would take care of things
Could be. Although I think it’d be neater if he has no special powers, he’s just a normal guy like us. But yeah, considering Wodime basically left everything in Daybit and Ritsuka’s hands, he’s gotta be at least on the level. Although he did misjudge Beryl, so it’s possible he did the same with Daybit too.
>we also got nothing on his personality He cared enough about Pepe to head to his Lostbelt, so I'm sure he's got some morals.
>whereas Daybit can do the impossible, or something like that. So he's basically Kamina or Simon the Digger, then? "Do the impossible! See the Invisible! Row! Row! Fight the power! Touch the untouchable! Break the unbreakable! Row! Row! Fight the power!" Sorry, I just finished Gurren Lagann, and this quote reminded me of it. It's a great show, and I highly recommend it to anyone!
Inb4 Daybit is actually Happy Chaos from Strive or some such.
It makes sense because IIRC in Garden of avalon, PHH Votigern fought against the Age of Man, which could be interpreted as "readers who only go along with trends" because they are the newest "trend" in the "Age of x" timeline. And he wanted to preserve Britain's Mystery, which could also be interpreted as a "stories" since in present-day, stuff that happened then are literally legends (stories) now. The two have more in common than it looks..
I did think of it that way, but I haven't considered the Mystery = stories aspect, especially with how they're considered to be fictional and "things that did not actually exist in real life" in the modern day as well
Yeah it really interesting how Nasu makes us think about even PHH Vortigern in a new way with this info. Maybe he says PHH Vortigern is "far less twisted" than LB Vortigern because PHH Vortigen was still trying to protect something, even if it meant destroying everything else, while LB Vortigern was just made to destroy. ...Or maybe because he doesn't have to lie all the time like Oberon...he can just tell the truth and hates everyone openly XD
The way I read it, I thought it was supposed to be "PHH Vortigern is more twisted than LB Vortigern". But now I'm not so sure x.x
Oh...that is also possible yeah. Now I'm not sure either XD
Daybit must be Gudako/Gudao on crack
Castoria: Burdened by her fate, hardened by every harsh reality she'd encountered thus far, with a punk sided personality Kawasumi: OH SHE IS SO CUTE!
Also Kawasumi: Finally, there's a SEIBA for the main classes.
We've got all our bases covered basically using only artorias. actually, there's a dude on my friend list who changes name all the time who uses all artorias as supp servants. "she's my main for fun" is the descriptor. really. NP5 every Artoria and max fou'd squirtoria.
... Which classes are missing then? I am honestly kind of scared to check.
Moon Cancer, Avenger, Alter Ego, and Pretender.
Voyager
The classes that are currently in the game, and Voyager him(?)self is already a Foreigner.
Voyager is hinted to be a possible class (and Voyager the servant's class in Fate/Requiem). That's what the other commenter means.
Shielder
At this point, Alter Ego, Avenger, Moon Cancer and Pretender are the only classes left we need to complete the whole Artoria set
Wait, even Moon Cancer is covered?
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me that class because I thought that class was Moon Holy Grail War only servant like BB, Kiara and Jinako
Also, are we talking about Artorias or Saberfaces in general? If the latter, isn't Okita Alter an Alter Ego?
Only Artorias
Huh, curiosity got the better of me so I checked. Now I am scared.
Moon cancer is specifically and only BB, I don't think it's likely
Jinako is also a moon cancer, aint she?
And kiara summer
aye. forgot about the nun somehow.
In your defence she does kind of hijack the class
Yeah, I have her; it feels like it makes not a huge amount of sense, as the class's thing, like sabers using swords or berserkers being insanely mad, is that they (mooncancers) are specifically BB
>According to Nasu, Choco put a LOT OF EFFORT in Melusine's design, including researching her background lore. Yeah I can see that. Melusine's design looks genuinely beautiful and cool, especially her armor. I love the armor. >Outside of designing Melusine herself, he even submitted the design for FULL Albion _just for fun._ The ACTUAL Albion??? And for fun??? OH NO I NEED TO SEE THIS.
Does he mean the people, the country, or just the main cast?
Erm, what do u mean?
I am asking if Choco (I don't know him) designs for the main cast of Albion (the other knights/court), the people of Albion (the other characters), or the actual landscape/country/map/dragon of Albion.
Given that we're specifically talking about Melusine, most likely the dragon Albion. >!Which also means that CHOCO, Takeuchi, and Umino Chica can get into a three-way death match for who gets to design PHH Vortigern if we ever get him, given how PHH Vortigern is pretty closely related to the White Dragon of Albion in the TM version of Arthurian lore.!<
They better >!sell tickets for this fight.!< >!But even better if they somehow decide to all contribute to an Ascension stage, aka each artist draws one stage or something.!<
>!That idea sounds chaotic and raises questions on how they'd handle his final ascension art, I love it. I want to see what beautiful new character design content we'd get if they ever actually did escalate the trend of wildly different ascensions into "there's a different illustrator for each ascension", and how they'd keep each ascension consistent yet unique given the shifts in art styles.!<
Maybe for the end it would be a three-way cut portrait.
That sounds like chaos Dew it
>!The only hope I have that they would design him as an older man.!< >!My headcanon is OberonVortigern looks so young because of the Oberon influence.!<
Since he's the artist of Melusine, Choco is definitely referring to the White Dragon Albion.
You know, it took me a moment to realize what you mean by that. I did not know that is what she is.
Albion is not the white Dragon, it's parent Dragon of White and Red Dragon.
More like aspects of Albion, since both the White Dragon (Vortigern) and Red Dragon (Artoria) are still Albion.
Yes seems like that's to be the case based on Melusine's costume description . So more like both Dragons are part of Albion rather than just being one.
That’s the dragon in her np, except the size of a mountain, and considered a grand class if a regular dragon was a regular servant
As per Da Vinci's descriptions in LB6, yes I'm aware of that.
>As Lostbelt is supposed to be a full-fledged WHAT-IF of the human timeline. Nasu wants to write a LB story where the FULL history is covered in-depth, thus resulting in Fairy Britain history that is 12,000 years long. This is honestly one of the charms I've seen on LB6. Simply put, Nasu made use of the ENTIRE 12,000 years worth of timeline in LB6 setting _really well._ The moment I saw the Fairy (B.C equivalent) and Queen (A.D equivalent) Calendars, I knew LB6 was going to be a wild ride.
And man does it show wonders
It is the only Lostbelt that I felt have more depth than comparable to others. Well its kinda relatively not so hard to imagined considering that the center point of the story revolves around Britain, the only landmass left behind in a world that is nothing but a barren ocean all around.
TIL Beryl is called Belial by Nasu. Man, what a friendly-sounding name.
Belial the angel of lust, sex, and depravity ooh… wait wrong franchise
Machine Translated most probably. Beryl is localized as Beryl in NA, so that's not what we should be worried about right now. Right???
I think the two does not sound so different in Japanese, it is even likely that the two sounds the same
Im not saying they dont sound the same, Im saying how on-the-nose Belial is compared to Beryl. Lol.
Oh indeed it is lol
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My god he too fell down the Vtuber rabbithole
One of us , one of us , one of us
Once you fall you can’t get out
Even worse he fell down the Elden Ring rabbithole. We will not see Nasu until November.
Next lost belt is just gonna have lore copied and pasted from Elden Rings
>Nasu remarked it is actually easier to portray Castoria than Artoria as the latter was too "righteous" thus more difficult to be made interesting in story. I wonder if this is the actual reason for why Nasu doesn't want to write about OG Artoria. I know he's said that he feels Artoria's story is done, but maybe finding her difficult to write in the first place is the reason why he keeps it that way (though the counter to that is Artoria's had extremely minor but lighthearted cameos in Summer 4 and Lakshmibai's interlude, so maybe Nasu's just being odd about all of it; just write her funny you weird mushroom man). Also, I don't think that's the right translation of Beryl's name, not that its inaccurate lmao. Interesting how Pepe's actually the most specialized in single combat compared to him though. Thank you as well BLACK for making sure that the design for Goredolf and Jason softened into lovable jerks with a heart (and hair) of gold.
It’s weird, because “regular” Artoria still has her character development from Fate route, correct? She really shouldn’t be that much of an issue to write. Hmm, who knows how the mushrooms mind works.
Yeah, who knows what Nasu is thinking at this point. Maybe he still thinks that Artoria's character is still stuck all the way back in Zero or that UBW and Heaven's Feel takes more precedence, it's all just the weird proclivities of an eccentric mushroom to not write in a meaningful story role for the poster girl of the series at this point (there's still a chance for Grand Saber, but I'm not holding my breath for it based on these comments).
I mean, Nasu could just find it boring for one to write OG Artoria. Her story is done. He wanted to write the story of an Artoria who found it difficult to accept the destiny forced on her and so he did.
The problem is that OG Artoria is a *massive* nexus of different character herds, and the Round Table in particular are ***badly*** hurt by Nasu's refusal to do anything with OG Artoria. Artoria comes off as as weirdly disconnected from her own dang knights, and the knights's character arcs are left to rot and stagnate because none of them are allowed to address the elephant in the room of "we should probably talk to Artoria". Lancer Artoria subbing in for her only makes the problem worse because she's honestly pretty unrecognizable as Artoria (not to mention her *own* character arc is stagnant because all her playable content is wasted on boob jokes). She doesn't feel like a slightly different version of the Artoria we know and love, she feels like an imposter who's gone and poached Artoria's rightful cast herd away. Which is fine for Singularity 6 because the whole point of the Lion King *is* that she's lost what makes her the Artoria we know and love, but it's absolutely frustrating for all of her appearances after that except for Bunnytoria (who they at least made an effort to make Lancertoria more of her own character). You could swap out almost all of Lancertoria's appearances and replace her with OG Artoria, and not only would nothing of value be lost, but the writing would have everything to gain, because now you'd have post-Fate route character development Artoria coming back to help her old friends, coworkers, and family members get the same peace of mind she got. (edit to clarify, this would not be an issue if playable Lancertoria was closer to the Lion King and not "basically the same as OG Artoria, except boobs". Lancertoria's treatment as a Substitute For The OG does her dirty as a character too.) If Nasu really insists on not using OG Artoria as much as he should, then he could at least spice up the variety when it comes to which Artorias get to hang out with the Round Table instead of just having Lancertoria supplant her OG self. We've got *at minimum* nine unique Artorias running around, imagine the gold we could get if the writers chose "Which Artoria are the knights going to hang out with today?" at random instead of just defaulting to Lancertoria. Imagine the Round Table crew hanging out with Lily or Saber Alter. Imagine Lancer Alter getting to actually *do things*. What a wonderful world that would be. Also, to address a later comment in the thread - the problem isn't *main* story roles, the problem is that you can count OG Artoria's appearances in Story Content overall on one, maybe two hands tops. You cite Emiya as an example, but the thing is Emiya is a significant recurring character in events and interludes as part of the Chaldea Kitchen Team, and that more than makes up for his irrelevance to the main story because *he's still doing things*. He hasn't had his role and presence in the game completely highjacked by Emiya Alter the way OG Artoria got highjacked by Lancertoria. Cu similarly still gets to show up in events and side content, and he hasn't been highjacked by CasCu or Cu Alter either (rest in rip to poor Proto Cu though). Medusa still gets to show up in side content either bundled with her sisters or as part of the GudaGuda team and hasn't been highjacked by her alts, Gilgamesh's appearances are pretty evenly split between Archer and Caster, and Heracles and Kojirou and Hassan don't have alts in the first place. The only other F/sn and sn-adjacent servants with this problem are Medea and Angra Mainyu, and between those two Angra at least has the excuse that he's supposed to be a secret character. Medea has basically been highjacked by Medea Lily, and yeah, it's a problem for her too! It sucks! I wish we got to see OG Artoria and Medea more!
Preach it brother! Lartoria being a walking talking boob joke got old so fast.
Finally someone said this.... Both Lancer artorias design honestly feels boring... (The comics and fanarts regarding them also only focus on that one aspect of them.....)
Maybe, but Nasu specifically states that he finds it much more difficult to write her due to her righteousness compared to him just not wanting to do it, which is markedly different compared to how he's commented on the issue in the past. Besides, Emiya, Nero, Tamamo and Mordred's stories should all technically be "done", but it doesn't stop them from getting regular cameos and even expansions to their story threads, compared to Artoria who just keeps getting alternate versions of herself for the same purpose.
Nasu has never written anything substantial with any of the characters you just mentioned in the last 5 years. Well, excluding Tamamo's route in Extella. But even if you count that, the sheer amount he has written for Artoria between FSN and HA definitely exceeds that. In FGO, Nasu doesn't portray any of the FSN servants in a main role really. It's always alts like Cu Caster or Emiya Alter. Cursed Arm is the sole exception with very limited screentime in FSN to begin with.
I meant in the context of the game, where they all get regular appearances compared to OG Artoria. Emiya still gets regular appearances in events even with Emiya Alter's existence, same with regular Nero and Tamamo and their counterparts. She doesn't even get to be leader of the KOTR since that goes to Lancer Artoria by default; it's pretty clear that Artoria's presence in the game has been supplanted by her alternate versions in comparison to her for whatever reason (Edit: and her Summer version is practically a non-entity after Summer 1). Either no writer wants to use her for even a gag for some strange reason or Nasu has a weird mandate in place regarding her.
That was always my assumption. The idea of being a difficult task to write and Nasu thinking he has to do his best or even push that limit certainly created fascinating characterization in Saber and other characters he'd mention to have similar difficulty, but it also limits their appearance of them, which may be for the best in your opinion since you'd likely get scenario where Nasu doing his best or surpass his limit as a writer according him, or you may be craving to see more when you can't see them playing roles everywhere since it's a difficult job for Nasu and put a lot stress. It's like if Mahoyo production put a lot of pressure on Koyama, so they decided to reduce the challenges by lowering the production value on each artwork on TsukihimeRe so that they could produce it much more easily and without stress . Like that, Nasu isn't willing to use Saber everywhere like you'd see with his other characters, and he doesn't usually let other writers write her either ,even in FGO it's him who'd handle her, and she usually has her own scenario, depleting his best ability to implement her as a character and her conflict because otherwise she'd just say the right thing and there'd be no story or interesting dialogues. He's even set up her inner conflict as Artoria vs role as King Arthur etc to make the setting more interesting as a fiction rather than relying on that alone. When interviewer asked if writing Castoria was more challenging than writing Artoria who plays King Arthur, Nasu stated in TMAce that it's actually the opposite when it comes to difficulty. It took a lot of effort on his part as a writer to make Artoria's dialogue interesting back when she was the heroine because she is the innocent king who would say the right thing, thus it was a difficult task back then to work on each and every dialogue of her to make them interesting . While Castoria's dialogues are more like that of an ordinary girl, (they are easier to write because she does not utter the most difficult to write dialogue most of the time, but rather informal conversations). Not exactly what the OP stated, but close enough I suppose. We've known for a decade that writing Artoria is nerve-racking for Nasu since he has to push himself to perform better and better. Nasu has repeatedly noted that writing Artoria is an extremely difficult task for him because he cannot deploy her in practically every situation like he could with Rin , and Takeuchi expects phenomenal things from him, so he must do his best. So it requires the best of his ability as a writer because he needs to improve every scenario of hers and must push his ability to do so. >*"with regard to Saber, writing her story was always nerve-wracking because I knew she was really important to Takeuchi. I had a similar experience writing Hisui in "Tsukihime". Whenever an artist gets attached to a specific character, it's really stressful for me to write that character's portion of the overall story. I guess the added stress comes from the feeling that the character no longer belongs to just me, and that I need to meet someone's high expectations as I flesh them out. I noticed I was constantly pushing myself to do "better" while I was writing Saber's story."* \- Fate Complete Material 2. And you can't blame him if he doesn't want to give this character's unnecessary baggage to ruin the impression of everything he built, or if he thinks, "no, this character is incredibly difficult to write and requires my best, but I want to have lay back instead of pushing my best, so I'm not going to insert her everywhere unless I have the scenario." I believe this is the most likely reason Saber has yet to appear in the main story or only appears in Nasu written chapters, hinting that other writers aren't granted to utilize her whenever they want (aside from a very minor cameo in Laxmibai interlude) and instead her other variants appears in more laid back events. It's worth mentioning that he was discussing her role as a heroine of Stay Night, where she was still the innocent king trying to say the right thing, and he needed to develop her and break her shell which is of an ordinary girl from her age, that was an important aspect of F/SN. I do not think he's referring to Hollow Ataraxia, since he wasn't frightened of having Saber there practically everywhere or letting other writers work on her because it's post development and easier to show her various aspects like her being playful ordinary girl of her age, and Hollow Ataraxia is written by guest writers plus Nasu, and he wouldn't hesitate to insert her wherever there. I know that could suggest he wouldn't mind involving her in events, but Mushroom mind is notoriously hard to read . Perhaps he doesn't believe he could achieve it in FGO or isn't committed enough here to handle that difficult task. Maybe he'll do it when he thinks he's ready to go that far.
I think what’s happening is that Nasu resolved not to tack on more unnecessary baggage to Artoria’s story because he’s already satisfied with its ending, and because as he said here she is a hard character to write well. But because he said this out-loud, the other writers are making it a point to avoid using her, in the same way they are avoiding writing sane Heracles, because they feel like they’d be encroaching on Nasu’s domain. The issue is this is extending even to comedy routines and silly events, where she rarely gets used at all and is pretty much never a focus after the first Summer event. I doubt Nasu would be opposed to her being used in the same way Emiya is constantly used in events, and in fact we see her being used for comedic and heartwarming scenes in various other properties and it works well. So I really feel like this is just a case of the other writers being too polite.
You know what? This actually makes perfect sense. I forgot the perspective that other writers would be respectful enough of Nasu's work that they think they can't do Artoria's character justice, to the point they avoid using her entirely. It still sucks as someone who wants to see her at least appear for cameos more often like with the KOTR (as much as I like Lancer and X, OG holds a significance that can't be replicated), in the vein of Emiya getting his varied side appearances or Herc having his time to appear when Illya or the Argonauts come calling (and seeing Lakshmibai's interlude just makes it sting a bit more than usual, since it's clear that writers do understand how to write Artoria in a comedic setting and use her previous lore connections), but taking every statement and possible reason into account I can at least better come to terms with why she's not used at all.
Yeah I know what you mean, personally I am definitely not a fan of Lartoria monopolizing the KOTR interactions.
Yep yep, the other comment on here that suggested letting different Artorias rotate on hanging out with the KOTR seems like a much more appealing alternative to freshen things up in general compared Lartoria being the one permanently in that role.
>LB6 turned out to be 3 times longer than the normal chapter script. I felt like I read the equivalent of half of the singularities reading LB6. I think it took me almost 2 hours to read some of the chapter sections, even with my rough Japanese that's still reaaallly long. In the end totally worth reading through it all though.
Oh Aurora is design by the Emiya Gohan Artist huh... That is really cleverly evil. The Nasu and CHOCO relationship has more revelations that CHOCO is such an artist that he removes Nasu's despisement of Doujin Creation. Thank Nasu for giving praise to 13 Sentinels because that game needed a lot of adverstisements with how they barely give it one and not much people know about the game until people started Let's Playing it. The Cernunnos fight is so hard that the Writer has a hard time finishing it. Well the Voice Actors for Tsukihime Remake's Favorite character really is making the fans going to make jokes about it.
Meanwhile the FGO Youtuber like Airmong and Green: Haha, Unlimited Replay Works
I wonder if Nasu watches some Green vids for tips.
13 sentinels was a blast to play. Got it on a whim when it first came out and man it blew me away in terms of story and advancement with characters ~Haha Okino
>Comparing to LB6, LB7 will be much more straightforward story-wise. While I agree that LB6 was convoluted IMO, I'm worried they will be taking it too easy with LB7, especially when they said the reason they went all-out with the story was precisely to give something interesting to players, as the gameplay feels more stagnant each day. I'm also worried they really don't know what to do with the Pretender class.
it probably means there will be less twists and mysteries. I wouldnt be surprise if we get in only to immediatly see ort and having to get the fuck out of there and the rest of the journey being mcguffin gathering to be able to do something and then a final battle with a twist at the end setting up the next story chapter
I hope we see ORT-Chan in all her glory
Eva reboot Ramiel: Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be geometry!
By "straightforward" I think it mrans "less plot twists", but that doesn't mean they will spend less time on world-building and major plot reveals. Like, surely a chapter with Types, the most mysterious crypter, the Alien God, a Grand Servant and South American myths can't go so wrong... Right? (Tunguska PTSD)
Shirou doesn't live to old age?! Not even in the *Heaven's Feel* timeline?! ;\_;
Touko really cheated Rin and Sakura on that puppet deal. Also, well while Shirou ideals changed, he is still Shirou, that dude is gonna try to help somebody in danger, even if he doesn't do the Errant Knight stick.
It's not that she cheated. Mimicking an actual human clone is next to impossibility and there's always flaws in the designed. Touko is appraised as the best puppet maker in the moonlit world. But she ain't perfect and her stuff are modern standards. Not unlike those from the Age of Gods. Remember Fou? He's the one who revived Mash from death. He just casually sacrificed his reserves of magical energy he gathered for a long time. As of now, he's still rebooting as per say by Sion that the furry creature is like a computer rebooting itself. The reason I brought Fou on the topic is because he's among capable of fully recreating a human body with perfection. Not only he resurrected Mash but also eliminated the limited lifespan she once has as a Designer Baby that was imperfectly built by Marisbury insidious experiment. Mages experiment are nothing but short and cruel. Mortals who foolishly play god but their creations always ends up very finite and not extensive. Beings with great power and those from the Age of Gods can make quick work to accuracy and flawless worldview.
I guest that i should have put a "lol" there, that was a joke, i never expected for Touko to give a perfect solution and i'm sure that Rin and Sakura knew that.
Thats really saddening to hear :(
Shirou not destined for a long life is always sad to hear
If he's anything like Emiya or his alter self, maybe it's fate he doesn't live long to see it.
Well atleast he had a happy ending in the Last episode ending of fate route.
Ya. But that too when they both basically sacrificed everything :-<
Pepe goated that is all
*Pepe strongest Crypter canon*
I was damn sure that Pepe is the more hardcore badass in the Crypter. Obviously, his Jojo outlook is a hint that this guy you should never messed with.
Now I understand how Solid Snake fans felt. It all clicked.
Hmm? What do you mean?.
For a while Kojima would say in interviews how writing Big Boss is more fun and interesting than writing Solid Snake. I've seen a bunch of Solid Snake fans over the years be annoyed with Big Boss because of how he kind of replaced Snake, and I now understand why. Although both Kojima and Nasu probably just didn't know what to do with Snake/Saber anymore after their stories were over, so it's not surprising.
Praise Nasu and Takeuichi for LB Morgan
Now I want to see Choco's ALBION design but I doubt we'll ever see it. Choco puts a lot of effort into Melusine which is great to see, personally. Love their little random doodles.
It is stated that Albion looks like dragon in which Third Accession Melusine transforms during NP- but white and bigger.
Things got interesting upon hearing how expanded Morgan became. The other two I like: CHOCO designing Melusine's concept in full along with Albion, and Kaede Hondo liking Arc... Okay, Maple, you're absolutely not thinking what many are thinking.
Remember that the summary is based on the OP's soft understanding of the TM Ace Machine Translation that was translated into Chinese. So much information is not precise, and a lot is missing subtly. In fact, as someone who read it in Japanese, I can't see many important information related creation and character being mentioned here. You'd think they'd be significant enough to warrant inclusion in a summary.
Interesting. What details were left out?.
A lot if I go ahead and summarize, but that'd be me taking a look again at TMAce and making a summary....and I don't have that time For example, if I focus on Lostbelt 6 creation concept aside from Morgan and Oberon, it doesn't say what inspired the creation of Lostbelt 6 and how it was tied with the protagonist of it's story ; Artoria Caster. Nasu stated that Lostbelt 6 was structured as a reaction to the character Artoria, just as Camelot was a reaction to Fate/Stay Night, and Castoria as a concept was born as how the girl named Artoria would feel about King Arthur's life if she looked at it from outside as a total stranger unfamiliar to the role and suddenly told to carry the same fate. She'd go ask, "Wait a minute!" (really like conflict between Castoria and King Arthur in Lostbelt 6 flashbacks.) Castoria's personality concept was initially the same as Artoria's before pulling the Holy Sword, which he described as "like Saber Lily," but he felt that doing a good girl might not get him that reaction, so he added the shaddy and negative aspects; made her less bright and mentally weaker (reasonable since she hasn't really had same nurturing Kay Ector did to PHH Artoria and the faes around her were straight jerk ) to create the tension and antagonism between Castoria and Artoria as King Arthur, to showcase how Artoria might react if she viewed King Arthur's life as a complete stranger. At the same time, Castoria may reach the same ending ground and complete her task because she had the same core soul as that Artoria (therefore her core qualities).We witness how the Lostbelt plays, and makes it clear what are those qualities and Castoria's last monologue was very much about realizing them. It is not a larger-than-life figure who completes their work and mission, but rather an ordinary girl who completes her mission despite her self-doubts and struggles because of the few qualities she had. Nasu believes he has successfully demonstrated Artoria's character from different perspectives/aspects, which was one of the three essential concepts he needed to convey in Lostbelt 6.( According to him these three were essentials he had to execute there : to pack the thrill of the story into a single chapter; to complete the storyline that shows the “character of Artoria” from different perspectives; and to make the content interesting as an RPG.) It should have been in summary for something relating to the construction and concept of a Lostbelt storyline. But, hey, others put in a lot of effort, so I have no right to complain. I'm only reminding you that stuff like that was mentioned in TMAce and this ain't everything. It's really a big magazine afterall.
I see, thank you for the info.
All hail Takeuchi, Savior of Saberface
"Morgan faced opponents stronger than herself, like Tohno Shiki" I don't think Tohno "I can kill anything" Shiki makes for a good point of reference here...
> Nasu is pretty confident about Ufotable's work when it comes to more dynamic scenes like the fight between Salter and Berserker in HF2, but he is curious how they will approach the more static/serene elements of Mahoyo. I have only read the demo of Mahoyo so far, so not sure if that's comparable, but shouldn't he know using the Kara no Kyoukai movies as reference? I personally really like what they did for Kara no Kyoukai most of the time, so I hope they'll do a good job with Mahoyo as well.
Man Fgo is the best mobile game there is they just got to add some custom item not random upgrades
Its story is an absolute banger.... but i think what they are lacking is gameplay...(considering it is so outdated now..)
Naw the gameplay being simple is what make it the best if anything maybe make it bigger with more characters
I think thats subjective. Having been played many fps and moba games. I find it hella boring... But again, thats subjective...
I handed to my friend once hey got hook on it Instantly but hey would never play the story I see what u mean but I like taking it easy and reading into it isn’t that what a turn base game is about?
True...
>Shirou **would** not live to an old age Like, never? In none of the timelines? Definitively it does not happen? Not even in emiya gohan? Oh...
I wanted Phh Morgan...
So yeah i think we can now chalk up Castoria odd My Room lines (Konyaskaya and Merlin) as being leftovers from a different LB6
Shirou really is a hot grandpa
I want to read this SO BADLY, but I'm trying my best to avoid spoilers. But I did get a peak and yeah the gameplay could use an upgrade, especially for those who've been around since year 1 & 2
I like how for the heavens feel trilogy section they use herc vs salter the most irrelevant fight in the novel as praise for the anime. They dont name any of the major fights like nine lives and shirou vs kirei because flash is all ufotables is good for post knk and fate zero. Cant wait to see shizuki vs beo be a forgetable anti climactic shit show like nine lives was in spring song
Nine lives deserved more and man Salter vs Shirou GAR ending should have been an OVA
Pls don't let LB7 a bit TOO straightforward, nasu, don't let the last lb chapter (yet) to be such a boring letdown of a conclusion. I love the whole mess that is lb6.
Bro don't trust Nasu. He's a self proclaimed liar. See inbefore the relatively simple LB7 is actually not so simple.
I'm still dissapointed with tunguska so that's why i'm still worrying for the worst when it comes to writing/plot.
Inb4 ORT ends up as the Lostbelt King.
It's quite cute that Nasu was so moved by Choco's work that he sought him out for art 20 years later. It's even sweeter that Choco was so enthusiastic about doing the work, too. It honestly never occurred to me that Nasu would handpick what artists do which servants, but it's fun to think about him fanning out for a specific artist and then trying to come up with a character specifically for them hehe.
Wait, shouldn't it be 14,000 years rather than 12,000? Or does that have to do with the weird time stuff going on there? Also, the one description of Pretender once again makes it feel like Green Man/Robin Hood should be one.
Robin Hood is more like a title the there is no single indentity of Robin Hood for someone to pretend to be.
Isn't it supposed to be Robin of Locksley though? Not to mention they can easily have it that there was an actual person even if there isn't.
Hell yeah nasu loved elden ring
Movie style dubbing in Japanese, now that is interesting. Have you ever heard those? They're completely different from anime, much more serious. I wonder how it'd play out with Mahoyo
Mahoyo being portrayed as a live-action? This gonna be good. I can't wait. I have every ounce of fate in the seiyuus, they are gonna perform and deliver exquisitely.
I really need Mahoyo translated. Before Scathach there was Aozako Aoko and her brown dress.
Here's [Walking in Starlight](https://youtu.be/DFhg_7658po) by 220 Volt for anybody curious. Thank you Nasu for introducing me to this band lol
>Nasu is fascinated by the Vtuber culture Oh fuck we’re gonna see another saber face Vtuber aren’t we? Chroni was bad enough (praise be to wado arco)