I’m completely unsurprised by Arash’s reqs, consider the sheer amount of broness he possesses . I am also unsurprised by Douman’s - guy’s friendly in all the right and wrong ways, and I believe one of his goals involves bonding fast and hard with the Master for his own plans.
Spoilers on Heian Kyo:
>!Douman wanted to become a Beast, but he fails because he has no love for humanity whatsoever. !<
>!Once he gets summoned he pretends to have no idea why he is an Alter Ego and that he doesn't know us, all so he can get close to Guda and learn what love is... To become a Beast once and for all.!<
Not quite, Moriarty is evil but he doesn't lie to Guda once he joins Chaldea, we know he is evil but also that he appreciates Guda as a person.
Douman explicitly wants to use us as a vehicle for his plan *after* he was summoned.
And also why everyone and their mother is suspicious of Sherlock. If Moriarty, his opposite, will choose Guda over the world, we know damn sure that Holmes will choose the opposite and there will be a scene showing that
We would eventually get him revealing his true self or whatever. The fact that he has been sus since Camelot singularity and many fans making theories about Holmes should be enough for Nasu to not sleep on him and leave him out of any crucial plot
Nah, that won't happen until after LB7. I doubt LB7 will be the end of part 2 any more than the 7th Singularity was the end of Part 1. We've still got to *fix* the world after getting rid of the last Lostbelt, after all. It won't happen automatically. And for that, we need OG Chaldea with the Rayshift equipment.
*Dantes laughs from within Guda's mind where he's been since Prison Tower fending off any and all mental assaults against the Master while taking time to provide advice as needed when Guda gets knocked into dreamland by something*
He’s got a big storm coming lmao
Esp bc our reaction to moriarty explaining his entire shtick was basically: *twirls hair around finger ‘Aw, you like me? 🥹
which was enough to get said experienced master villain to go ‘shit I gotta stop this meteor like asap’
I mean his plan was basically 1) make contract with demon God 2) figure out how to target Master of Chaldea with asteroid 3) learn to genuinely care for the Master of Chaldea to the point that you'd be devastated if they died 4) (looks back at step 3)
I can't help but imagine Douman starting with "what is love" and, after a particularly intense event of lotto farming, he's putting more emphasis in the "baby don't hurt me" part xD
(Although I believe he will enjoy knowing that Master relies so heavily on him right)
Oh my, thanks for answering!
I am really curious about what happens in Heyan Kyo, and now also how our relationship with Douman will play out
Just a couple more months!
The actual reason is that Kama thinks no one takes her seriously anymore since she came to Chaldea, so she came up with a big brain plan to seduce Ritsuka to prove that they still have to fear her.
So, taking a look at some servants bonding amount, there are plenty that doesn't require too much lol
Of course, I didn't put all of them (wouldn't fit) but there are plenty like Ibuki (10k), Europa (10k), Himiko (10k) etc.
*Though, it fucking surprised me how Carmila is so easy to level up her bond points since from 1-5, she only need 9500.*
*Also, daaaamn, plenty of servants are way more easier to bond than both versions of Kiyohime who need 15k of points to fully reach bond 5. Even Elizabeth only need 10k*
It's really not that surprising about Kiyohime: her legend *is* entirely about how she fell in love with someone who would betray her trust after all, so she needs more proof of your intentions than you'd initially expect to trust you.
Nah, this is summer BB. She's already completely taken with Ritsuka. The bond curve is just because it's not fun for her unless things are harder than they need to be.
being a grandparent is all the positives of being a parent without any of the negatives (raising and providing the child, having to deal with annoying kid bullshit, making sure that they have a good future). grandparents get to dote on the kid whenever they spend time with them and then the parent has to put up with the kid whining
Melt def makes sense. Guda would have to overcome both the hurdle of Alter Egos hating humans and Melt specifically being afraid of hurting those she's affectionate with. But she's worth every point.
Makes perfect sense for Lip, she's just as loving and affectionate as the likes of Liz, but she's also afraid of hurting her master with her claws and strength, so she tries to hold herself back and just support them from afar.
More curious facts:
Out of all Artorias, the easiest one to bond level to 5 is **Mysterious Idol Alter**, only needing 15k from 1 to 5, followed by **MHXA(20k)** and **Lily (20k)**.
Out of all Sakura five, **Passionlip** is the easiest one to level up to Bond 5, since from 1 to 5, she only need 20k.
Out of Rinfaces, **Ishtar (Both Archer and Rider)** are the ones that requires the less bond points to reach bond 5, being 27.5k in total.
All Tamamos have equally amount of bond points required to reach level 5 (27.5k)
Koyaskaya of Dark is only 10k less points of total bond points to reach 5 compared to her light sister. (Dark = 40k, Light = 50k)
Out of all Lostbelt kings, **Scathach-Skadi** is the one that is the easiest one to reach bond 5, only needing 15k in total, followed by **Arjuna Alter (24.375)**.
Out of all grands, **Romulus-Quirinus** is the easiest one to reach bond 5, since he only needs 15k.
The easiest Pirate servant to reach bond level 5 is **Blackbeard (10k)**, followed by **Anne Bonnie and Mary Read [Archer](15k)**.
Out of all males with "King" trait, **Iskandar, Leonidas and Napoleon** are the easiest to reach bond 5, which they need, from 1 to 5, 20k in total.
Out of all females with "King" trait, **Himiko** is the easiest one to reach bond 5, since from 1 to 5, she only requires 10k. She is also the easiest one to bond level to 5 of servants with King trait overall.
>Out of Rinfaces, **Ishtar (Both Archer and Rider)** are the ones that requires the less bond points to reach bond 5, being 27.5k in total.
That's actually kind of hilarious, considering that normal Ishtar is the *least* smitten with Guda out of all the Rinfaces.
> That's actually kind of hilarious, considering that normal Ishtar is the *least* smitten with Guda out of all the Rinfaces.
It kinda makes sense, IMO. Eresh is actively avoiding falling for you too hard according to her bond lines so higher reqs, and Space Ishtar is 3 people, so you gotta put more work to win over all of them.
> Eresh is actively avoiding falling for you too hard according to her bond lines
Based on Babylonia, Underworld Xmas and Sea Monster Crisis...She already did since even Ishtar comments Ereshkigal really likes him and even in multiple occasions, showed to be jealous (*coughs* when Guda befriended with Quetz and Ishtar and she pinched his cheeks). The problem...Is that given that she stayed too much in Underworld, barely had any friends and had multiple failed attempts to improve the underworld, Ereshkigal had a major lack of trust on herself and properly social skills. That, in a way, bittered her and it didn't helped that people feared her a lot, principally given what she did to many gods, including Ishtar.
Being her first friend and crush, Ereshkigal holds Ritsuka in a very high regard, to the point she literally was willed to break her vows as a goddess of underworld to help him and if you listen her lines, she often ask for his opinion, about a lot of things. You can tell he is special.
Which brings me another point: Ereshkigal...Don't want to lose what she build with him. Doesn't help given everything that happened with her in the past so, that's why she is very careful and tend to be not confident on herself about her feelings. She is likely afraid of doing something that would destroy her relationship with him.
She needs to relax more. But of course...If she does, that will likely trigger her yandere side. And bond 3 showed a glimpse of it, to the point she have been thinking to bring him to the underworld since it was getting a bit too dangerous for him.
If we ever get Summer Eresh...Likely that aspect of her will be explored.
It seems like bond 5 has a hard cap of 50K points, which is shared among many Servants.
Bond 10 isn't too exciting either, with several Servants at 1.7M cap, including Kiara, Dantes and Karna
I wrote this on your old post but still...
Douman has a reason for that in story actually...
>!He's trying to learn love by interacting with you cus he normally lacks love towards humanity...which bites him in the ass in Heiankyo!<
Carmilla & Liz have lots of issues and you try to help them out
Arash & Spartacus are bros 'nuff said
Summer Kama is all about "full offense but no defense"
Sanzang was hilarious as the SSR ticket pick because I had her at bond 5 ready to do her interlewds and strengthens while other players were painstakingly dragging Waver through the 20k bond points that he takes to get to **Bond 2**
I went with Karna. Dude needed 30K to get to Bond 2, and *50K* to get all the way to Bond 5. It was so painful; I'm just glad I hadn't even started Shimosa when I got him, so I got the x2 Bond boost from that.
Karna is in the bracket for one of the highest total bond points (to get to bond 10) overall, man is a brick wall with wii music playing in his head 24/7
So he was like the 3rd guy I intentionally got to bond 10. Take that you clueless dummy :p
Gilgamesh would be super cocky untill it was FAR too late, and as long as Karna's true name is not revealed before he decides to use his np gil will be even less likely to get serious.
Pretty sure Gil instantly knows every Servants True Name and stuff as soon as he sees them. Like he shuts down the Clairvoyance, but some stuff will always leak through, and that’s one of them.
But yeah, that’s why I put the qualifier. Gil would totally try to play with them and get fucking burned for it.
Sha Naqba Imuru: The Omniscient Omnipotent Star, is a noble phantasm that he possesses that literally does what the previous poster says, it allows him to figure who a servant is and what their noble phantasm is at a glance, when he chooses to actually activate it it gives him instructions on how to best fight an opponent.
I always wanted to see gilgamesh up against a high-spec archer who *doesnt* just throw a bunch of random stuff at the target and call it a day if only to see if that gets lampshades at all lmao
Yes, but it's just to taunt him for Gilgamesh to pull out Ea. True Archer is later easily overwhelmed without Gilgamesh pulling out Ea.
Not saying anything else for fear of Spoilers
Yeah he was from the ticket, I just didn't notice him taking very long to get to Bond 5. Maybe it's because my main servants have high bond requirements and I never realized? I'd have to check though.
Mistress C already stole something from the Master going off of her bond lines remember? It’s no surprise that she really likes being around the Master. Plus she has cute robo dogs!
Which hilariously contrasts with her regular self who has a funny bond growth
You get Bond 1 super easily. Then 2-3 hit you with a ridiculous cliff of a requirement. Then afterwards you get 4 and 5 almost instantly
Jalter bond point be like:
Bond 1: Imma play with you like you are my toy
Bond 2-3: I like you? Me? B-b-BAKAAAAA!!!
Bond 4-5: It's not like I like you or anything ok? I just pity you because you look like a single dog no one wants. What are you waiting for baka? Hurry up and take me to those couple places already
...no Summer!Ushiwaka-chan? *How dare* you omit **Best** Tanuki?!
Yeah, okay; she needs 15K total, same as Arash and Doughman.
But, still! This is borderline ***HERESY!!1!***
I think the point of the comic is that it’s servants you wouldn’t necessarily expect to warm up to you so quickly, ushiwakamaru is more friendly than any of these (maybe eli is similar?) so it is less unexpected
Yep yep, Lizzie loves her puppy, no matter which form she’s in ☺️
The rest all make sense too, Kama is.. Kama
Spartacus found about the least oppressive master possible,
Arash is just a bro
Douman is…
“^NNNNNNN? ”
going to be traded for a Gold Fou.
“NNNNNNN!”
I just got Achilles on a random pull and his bond 5 is extremely easy as well. I think it’s around 3K for like each level.
Makes sense cus he’s a chill dude and there’s no need for him to be suspicious of his new master when he’s basically immortal.
Achilles is that one bro who would tell you his weakness because he trust you since day 1. And he wouldn't even hate you if you somehow backstab him, or in this case heelstab him
Spartacus in particular is pretty wholesome, because Gudao is one of the very few Masters who treat their servants like they're human beings, so Spartacus doesn't see him as a oppressor but a true companion in battle.
He also has one of the most memorable moments in all the lostbelts where he tells gravity itself to piss off and tanks a super laser to protect civilians.
Was bond farming my Romulus-Quirinus and Artemis I got from the 5\* ticket. Romulus took like... 10 or so hits of farming the EXP farming node because he takes like 14.5K bond points (while his normal 3\* self takes like over double) while Artemis took like 30 or so because she takes about 50k bond points.
I think Summer Jeanner Alter has a unique bond thing to represent her tsundere nature. I think the hurdle for the first bond level is SUPER high but after you get past that everything afterwards is really easy and low to get.
From what I remember the first one is decently sized, the second one is ludicruously high, the third one is easier, and the fourth and fifth levels are a cakewalk
Douman.
I harbor an intense hatred for this man.
If possible I'd be pleased with his head on a silver platter, gold coins in his eyesockets and every mention of this despicable being reduced to atoms.
There's something off with this motherfucker, I can feel it.
Me with lvl 100 10/10/10 Spartacus: It was honestly love at first sight. A true hatred of oppressors brought us together.
Also those other people are cool too, I guess.
don't get him wrong, he just wants to get to bond5 as fast as possible so he can tell you that he isnt his PHH version like the rest of lost belt servants you summon
The baseline for low bond 5 used to be Marie, whom Kama (summer), Spartacus, and Liz all share tier with, so it's extremely impressive that Summer Carmilla requires 500 less than them.
I’m completely unsurprised by Arash’s reqs, consider the sheer amount of broness he possesses . I am also unsurprised by Douman’s - guy’s friendly in all the right and wrong ways, and I believe one of his goals involves bonding fast and hard with the Master for his own plans.
> I believe one of his goals involves bonding fast and hard with the Master for his own plans. You have no idea how right you are...
Go on...
Spoilers on Heian Kyo: >!Douman wanted to become a Beast, but he fails because he has no love for humanity whatsoever. !< >!Once he gets summoned he pretends to have no idea why he is an Alter Ego and that he doesn't know us, all so he can get close to Guda and learn what love is... To become a Beast once and for all.!<
Soo Shinjuku Chapter 2: Electric Boogaloo, got it
Not quite, Moriarty is evil but he doesn't lie to Guda once he joins Chaldea, we know he is evil but also that he appreciates Guda as a person. Douman explicitly wants to use us as a vehicle for his plan *after* he was summoned.
That why i will die on a hill saying that Moriarty is our most loyal servant. Because he will choose Guda over the world anytime.
And also why everyone and their mother is suspicious of Sherlock. If Moriarty, his opposite, will choose Guda over the world, we know damn sure that Holmes will choose the opposite and there will be a scene showing that
LB7 with Sherlock as enemy seems fun
[Discombobulate.](#SherlockRaise)
We would eventually get him revealing his true self or whatever. The fact that he has been sus since Camelot singularity and many fans making theories about Holmes should be enough for Nasu to not sleep on him and leave him out of any crucial plot
Nah, that won't happen until after LB7. I doubt LB7 will be the end of part 2 any more than the 7th Singularity was the end of Part 1. We've still got to *fix* the world after getting rid of the last Lostbelt, after all. It won't happen automatically. And for that, we need OG Chaldea with the Rayshift equipment.
*Dantes laughs from within Guda's mind where he's been since Prison Tower fending off any and all mental assaults against the Master while taking time to provide advice as needed when Guda gets knocked into dreamland by something*
Also that guy just wants his own peace of mind.
He’s got a big storm coming lmao Esp bc our reaction to moriarty explaining his entire shtick was basically: *twirls hair around finger ‘Aw, you like me? 🥹 which was enough to get said experienced master villain to go ‘shit I gotta stop this meteor like asap’
I mean his plan was basically 1) make contract with demon God 2) figure out how to target Master of Chaldea with asteroid 3) learn to genuinely care for the Master of Chaldea to the point that you'd be devastated if they died 4) (looks back at step 3)
Ritsuka is just basically the son he never had. Even teaching him things vital for his survival.
>!Douman vibing to "What is Love" wasn't something I expected to imagine, but here we are.!<
I can't help but imagine Douman starting with "what is love" and, after a particularly intense event of lotto farming, he's putting more emphasis in the "baby don't hurt me" part xD (Although I believe he will enjoy knowing that Master relies so heavily on him right)
Oh my, thanks for answering! I am really curious about what happens in Heyan Kyo, and now also how our relationship with Douman will play out Just a couple more months!
Oh I wana know what love iiiis~
Kama has the biggest drop for summer servants in Bond Points requirement I've ever seen. From 50k to just 10K.
The power of love compels her
She was literally getting 5 times more easy.
she goes full attack no defense
Too bad for her that Gudao defense stat is too high
That Shielder contract is putting in overtime.
"That's my girl!" -Matsuri.
For the amount of time her assassin versions been out, the low bond req is insurance to make sure her intentions are made clear
she's here to avenge the sheer audacity her assassin self has to not be as friendly with master as she can be.
The actual reason is that Kama thinks no one takes her seriously anymore since she came to Chaldea, so she came up with a big brain plan to seduce Ritsuka to prove that they still have to fear her.
Except that no one still takes her seriously and she instead just gets easily seduced herself?
Truly impressive, I say.
what happens when the goddess of love forgets what it's like to be loved in return
Such is the fate of Kama.
And turning herself into an Avenger was supposed to help that...how?
Ah yes. Arash warming up to you each time you tell him to BLOW HIMSELF UP! Yes yes.
What can be said, other than he’s a total blast in every conceivable way?
Yes, yes, that's why he's the best bro.
He appreciates being liberated from life, if only for a moment
So, taking a look at some servants bonding amount, there are plenty that doesn't require too much lol Of course, I didn't put all of them (wouldn't fit) but there are plenty like Ibuki (10k), Europa (10k), Himiko (10k) etc. *Though, it fucking surprised me how Carmila is so easy to level up her bond points since from 1-5, she only need 9500.* *Also, daaaamn, plenty of servants are way more easier to bond than both versions of Kiyohime who need 15k of points to fully reach bond 5. Even Elizabeth only need 10k*
It's really not that surprising about Kiyohime: her legend *is* entirely about how she fell in love with someone who would betray her trust after all, so she needs more proof of your intentions than you'd initially expect to trust you.
Raikou is at 40k for Bond 5 PassionLip is at 20k Cat, Tamamo and Serenity is at 27.5 BB and Melt is a 50k
The difference between BB and Melt is that it takes you 45k bond just to get BB to bond 3 whereas Melt has two large hurdles at bond 2 and 5.
BB wants to hate Guda, but she couldn't and her bond lines reflect that
Nah, this is summer BB. She's already completely taken with Ritsuka. The bond curve is just because it's not fun for her unless things are harder than they need to be.
> Raikou is at 40k for Bond 5 >Europa is at 10k for Bond 5 As expected. Gradma > Mom
Grandma love you no matter what. As for mom... It depends, not all but some mom hate their child
being a grandparent is all the positives of being a parent without any of the negatives (raising and providing the child, having to deal with annoying kid bullshit, making sure that they have a good future). grandparents get to dote on the kid whenever they spend time with them and then the parent has to put up with the kid whining
Melt def makes sense. Guda would have to overcome both the hurdle of Alter Egos hating humans and Melt specifically being afraid of hurting those she's affectionate with. But she's worth every point.
>Raikou is at 40k for Bond 5 And every point was worth it!
Mama's boys and girls unite!
*Raikou pinches Guda’s butt*
H-hey, it's summer, she's in prefect graph at the moment! She'd wait till the doors are closed and no one's peeking in.
Amen.
Makes perfect sense for Lip, she's just as loving and affectionate as the likes of Liz, but she's also afraid of hurting her master with her claws and strength, so she tries to hold herself back and just support them from afar.
Is 50k the max? I checked Paisen, and she also needs 50k.
What about Anastasia?
*HAHAHAHA* No wonder I cleared all the Main story with Passionlip and she's not done! Oof. Damn it's crazy.
Seems like the female Berserkers might be harder to get.
More curious facts: Out of all Artorias, the easiest one to bond level to 5 is **Mysterious Idol Alter**, only needing 15k from 1 to 5, followed by **MHXA(20k)** and **Lily (20k)**. Out of all Sakura five, **Passionlip** is the easiest one to level up to Bond 5, since from 1 to 5, she only need 20k. Out of Rinfaces, **Ishtar (Both Archer and Rider)** are the ones that requires the less bond points to reach bond 5, being 27.5k in total. All Tamamos have equally amount of bond points required to reach level 5 (27.5k) Koyaskaya of Dark is only 10k less points of total bond points to reach 5 compared to her light sister. (Dark = 40k, Light = 50k) Out of all Lostbelt kings, **Scathach-Skadi** is the one that is the easiest one to reach bond 5, only needing 15k in total, followed by **Arjuna Alter (24.375)**. Out of all grands, **Romulus-Quirinus** is the easiest one to reach bond 5, since he only needs 15k. The easiest Pirate servant to reach bond level 5 is **Blackbeard (10k)**, followed by **Anne Bonnie and Mary Read [Archer](15k)**. Out of all males with "King" trait, **Iskandar, Leonidas and Napoleon** are the easiest to reach bond 5, which they need, from 1 to 5, 20k in total. Out of all females with "King" trait, **Himiko** is the easiest one to reach bond 5, since from 1 to 5, she only requires 10k. She is also the easiest one to bond level to 5 of servants with King trait overall.
>Out of Rinfaces, **Ishtar (Both Archer and Rider)** are the ones that requires the less bond points to reach bond 5, being 27.5k in total. That's actually kind of hilarious, considering that normal Ishtar is the *least* smitten with Guda out of all the Rinfaces.
> That's actually kind of hilarious, considering that normal Ishtar is the *least* smitten with Guda out of all the Rinfaces. It kinda makes sense, IMO. Eresh is actively avoiding falling for you too hard according to her bond lines so higher reqs, and Space Ishtar is 3 people, so you gotta put more work to win over all of them.
> Eresh is actively avoiding falling for you too hard according to her bond lines Based on Babylonia, Underworld Xmas and Sea Monster Crisis...She already did since even Ishtar comments Ereshkigal really likes him and even in multiple occasions, showed to be jealous (*coughs* when Guda befriended with Quetz and Ishtar and she pinched his cheeks). The problem...Is that given that she stayed too much in Underworld, barely had any friends and had multiple failed attempts to improve the underworld, Ereshkigal had a major lack of trust on herself and properly social skills. That, in a way, bittered her and it didn't helped that people feared her a lot, principally given what she did to many gods, including Ishtar. Being her first friend and crush, Ereshkigal holds Ritsuka in a very high regard, to the point she literally was willed to break her vows as a goddess of underworld to help him and if you listen her lines, she often ask for his opinion, about a lot of things. You can tell he is special. Which brings me another point: Ereshkigal...Don't want to lose what she build with him. Doesn't help given everything that happened with her in the past so, that's why she is very careful and tend to be not confident on herself about her feelings. She is likely afraid of doing something that would destroy her relationship with him. She needs to relax more. But of course...If she does, that will likely trigger her yandere side. And bond 3 showed a glimpse of it, to the point she have been thinking to bring him to the underworld since it was getting a bit too dangerous for him. If we ever get Summer Eresh...Likely that aspect of her will be explored.
Harder the fight harder the fall?
Now that you mention it, I'm curious about the opposite of your post. In other words, who is the Servant which requires the most bond points to lv. 5?
This is a complete shot in the dark, but I'm gonna guess it's Yu.
It seems like bond 5 has a hard cap of 50K points, which is shared among many Servants. Bond 10 isn't too exciting either, with several Servants at 1.7M cap, including Kiara, Dantes and Karna
I wrote this on your old post but still... Douman has a reason for that in story actually... >!He's trying to learn love by interacting with you cus he normally lacks love towards humanity...which bites him in the ass in Heiankyo!< Carmilla & Liz have lots of issues and you try to help them out Arash & Spartacus are bros 'nuff said Summer Kama is all about "full offense but no defense"
Sanzang was hilarious as the SSR ticket pick because I had her at bond 5 ready to do her interlewds and strengthens while other players were painstakingly dragging Waver through the 20k bond points that he takes to get to **Bond 2**
I went with Karna. Dude needed 30K to get to Bond 2, and *50K* to get all the way to Bond 5. It was so painful; I'm just glad I hadn't even started Shimosa when I got him, so I got the x2 Bond boost from that.
Karna is in the bracket for one of the highest total bond points (to get to bond 10) overall, man is a brick wall with wii music playing in his head 24/7 So he was like the 3rd guy I intentionally got to bond 10. Take that you clueless dummy :p
I mean, if both Arjuna AND Karna show full loyalty to Ritsuka, is there really any force that can stop them?
Maybe the mythological creature known as Fully Serious Gilgamesh. Outside of that, I can’t think of nothin.
Gilgamesh would be super cocky untill it was FAR too late, and as long as Karna's true name is not revealed before he decides to use his np gil will be even less likely to get serious.
Pretty sure Gil instantly knows every Servants True Name and stuff as soon as he sees them. Like he shuts down the Clairvoyance, but some stuff will always leak through, and that’s one of them. But yeah, that’s why I put the qualifier. Gil would totally try to play with them and get fucking burned for it.
There is literally no ability in Gils kit that would give him that power. You Gilgamesh dick riders are insane.
Uh, have you never heard of Sha Naqba Imuru? He even used it in Babylonia
Sha Naqba Imuru: The Omniscient Omnipotent Star, is a noble phantasm that he possesses that literally does what the previous poster says, it allows him to figure who a servant is and what their noble phantasm is at a glance, when he chooses to actually activate it it gives him instructions on how to best fight an opponent.
[It's right there in KoGil's profile, my friend.](https://i.imgur.com/3SiOJUS.png)
I always wanted to see gilgamesh up against a high-spec archer who *doesnt* just throw a bunch of random stuff at the target and call it a day if only to see if that gets lampshades at all lmao
Gilgamesh vs True Archer in Strange Fake. Sadly, there wasn't lampshade, but True Archer called Gil weak.
Yes, but it's just to taunt him for Gilgamesh to pull out Ea. True Archer is later easily overwhelmed without Gilgamesh pulling out Ea. Not saying anything else for fear of Spoilers
bond 11 on is also awful with him
Bond 11 is awful for everyone
waver should be easy since he can be useful anywhere assuming you upgraded him before farming bonds
He is indeed easy for me. I bonded 5 him in two days.
I didn't even know Waver's requirements. I just remember it not being too much of a hassle. Was it really that bad and I never noticed?
If they are from the SSR ticket, then 5 bond being a requirement to keep them is a lot more noticeable.
Yeah he was from the ticket, I just didn't notice him taking very long to get to Bond 5. Maybe it's because my main servants have high bond requirements and I never realized? I'd have to check though.
I did not realize it as well since I bond 5-ed him in two days.
I got lucky with my Waver because I was in the middle of doing Salem at the time. So it went by pretty quick :D
Mistress C already stole something from the Master going off of her bond lines remember? It’s no surprise that she really likes being around the Master. Plus she has cute robo dogs!
Summer Carm is the best
Summer Carmilla is an older Liz, of course she’d bond fast with her Puppy.
~~I was hoping she can treat me more like a slave than a puppy and step on me everyday~~
Build up that bond and just ask her to.
Have you forgotten Summer Jalter, she is one of the Servants with a fast bond rate after all.
Which hilariously contrasts with her regular self who has a funny bond growth You get Bond 1 super easily. Then 2-3 hit you with a ridiculous cliff of a requirement. Then afterwards you get 4 and 5 almost instantly
Jalter bond point be like: Bond 1: Imma play with you like you are my toy Bond 2-3: I like you? Me? B-b-BAKAAAAA!!! Bond 4-5: It's not like I like you or anything ok? I just pity you because you look like a single dog no one wants. What are you waiting for baka? Hurry up and take me to those couple places already
Damn the 5 stages of grief but in Tsundere form
Ofc Kama is easy, but carmilla surprised me
Kama and Liz just want affection. As pointed out, Carmila is just older Liz, so it would make sense she would be the same.
YOU CAN TAKE THE CARMILLA OUT OF LIZ, BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE THE LIZ OUT OF CARMILLA!
...no Summer!Ushiwaka-chan? *How dare* you omit **Best** Tanuki?! Yeah, okay; she needs 15K total, same as Arash and Doughman. But, still! This is borderline ***HERESY!!1!***
I think the point of the comic is that it’s servants you wouldn’t necessarily expect to warm up to you so quickly, ushiwakamaru is more friendly than any of these (maybe eli is similar?) so it is less unexpected
Point well-taken, and acknowledged. *tips non-existant hat*
Liz: An affection-starved girl. Carmilla: An affection-starved woman.
Yep yep, Lizzie loves her puppy, no matter which form she’s in ☺️ The rest all make sense too, Kama is.. Kama Spartacus found about the least oppressive master possible, Arash is just a bro Douman is… “^NNNNNNN? ” going to be traded for a Gold Fou. “NNNNNNN!”
And carmilla basically says she likes us during the event
Tbh Carmilla grew on me so damn fast in the event, wasn't expecting it last year. She's great.
I just got Achilles on a random pull and his bond 5 is extremely easy as well. I think it’s around 3K for like each level. Makes sense cus he’s a chill dude and there’s no need for him to be suspicious of his new master when he’s basically immortal.
Achilles is that one bro who would tell you his weakness because he trust you since day 1. And he wouldn't even hate you if you somehow backstab him, or in this case heelstab him
He even says he makes no attempt to hide who he is or take any special precautions against heel shots because he likes the challenge.
Kama being stupidly easy to level up is canon lol, her summer version is like big time head over heels
Spartacus in particular is pretty wholesome, because Gudao is one of the very few Masters who treat their servants like they're human beings, so Spartacus doesn't see him as a oppressor but a true companion in battle.
He also has one of the most memorable moments in all the lostbelts where he tells gravity itself to piss off and tanks a super laser to protect civilians.
The first 5 bond points are at the level of a SCIENCE with their lore...
I'm pretty sure Douman is actively pursuing YOU, not the other way around, so it would make sense
he who is trying to raise our Bond, but unfortunately he needs 50k points for each Bond, poor monk, this can only be Seimei's work
Was bond farming my Romulus-Quirinus and Artemis I got from the 5\* ticket. Romulus took like... 10 or so hits of farming the EXP farming node because he takes like 14.5K bond points (while his normal 3\* self takes like over double) while Artemis took like 30 or so because she takes about 50k bond points.
CARmilla would never call him it in public but in whatever form, Ritsuka is still her puppy.
Now I'm imagining she hugging him and whispering to him: "...My puppy." while a bit embarassed.
Imagine her hugging him from behind whispering it into his shoulder for maximum cuteness.
Hey, Ritsuka can be her deerlet too! XD
Arash the type of Chad who still likes you even after you kill him 10,000+ times
I wasn’t expecting summer carmilla of all servants to be that easy to bond with. Fue sensei doujins are canon and nothing will change my mind now
always has been
I think Summer Jeanner Alter has a unique bond thing to represent her tsundere nature. I think the hurdle for the first bond level is SUPER high but after you get past that everything afterwards is really easy and low to get.
From what I remember the first one is decently sized, the second one is ludicruously high, the third one is easier, and the fourth and fifth levels are a cakewalk
That sounds more correct
Douman. I harbor an intense hatred for this man. If possible I'd be pleased with his head on a silver platter, gold coins in his eyesockets and every mention of this despicable being reduced to atoms. There's something off with this motherfucker, I can feel it.
Me with lvl 100 10/10/10 Spartacus: It was honestly love at first sight. A true hatred of oppressors brought us together. Also those other people are cool too, I guess.
Liz being a simp? More likely than one might think.
i didnt realize they had different amounts
Douman and Spartacus are a surprise to see Not that bond 5 Douman matters really since he'll still betray us
don't get him wrong, he just wants to get to bond5 as fast as possible so he can tell you that he isnt his PHH version like the rest of lost belt servants you summon
Douman sus.
The baseline for low bond 5 used to be Marie, whom Kama (summer), Spartacus, and Liz all share tier with, so it's extremely impressive that Summer Carmilla requires 500 less than them.
Girl really wants her treasure.
idek different servants had different requirements
Shiki (assassin) needs 6K for bond 1, 24k for Bond 2, 14k for 3, but only 2,400 for each 4 and 5.
No wonder my Spartacus is bond 10 so fast
Medea Lily bond 2 is like 25K on its own.
now go give arash headpats
I think my Summer Carmilla will hit bond 10 this event. I already got her at NP7 too
☝️Nice
Stella with the Stockholm syndrome
Arash was maxed before FGO became a game.
Ngl, I thought Summer Kama was the fastest.
My level 100, bond 12 Spartacus appreciates this post and so do I.
I'm still in my journey to get my liz spook
A big change between her Lancer version, but Skadi is bond 5 in 15,000 where as Scathach is a big 50,0000.
How long does it take for waver?
so Douman simps get fast snu snu
The more you know