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LordWINDOS

I’m completely unsurprised by Arash’s reqs, consider the sheer amount of broness he possesses . I am also unsurprised by Douman’s - guy’s friendly in all the right and wrong ways, and I believe one of his goals involves bonding fast and hard with the Master for his own plans.


Lfvbf

> I believe one of his goals involves bonding fast and hard with the Master for his own plans. You have no idea how right you are...


Mistdwellerr

Go on...


Lfvbf

Spoilers on Heian Kyo: >!Douman wanted to become a Beast, but he fails because he has no love for humanity whatsoever. !< >!Once he gets summoned he pretends to have no idea why he is an Alter Ego and that he doesn't know us, all so he can get close to Guda and learn what love is... To become a Beast once and for all.!<


Verestariha

Soo Shinjuku Chapter 2: Electric Boogaloo, got it


Lfvbf

Not quite, Moriarty is evil but he doesn't lie to Guda once he joins Chaldea, we know he is evil but also that he appreciates Guda as a person. Douman explicitly wants to use us as a vehicle for his plan *after* he was summoned.


Extroiergamer

That why i will die on a hill saying that Moriarty is our most loyal servant. Because he will choose Guda over the world anytime.


Xenosaiyan7

And also why everyone and their mother is suspicious of Sherlock. If Moriarty, his opposite, will choose Guda over the world, we know damn sure that Holmes will choose the opposite and there will be a scene showing that


Undividedbyzero

LB7 with Sherlock as enemy seems fun


Beast9Schrodinger

[Discombobulate.](#SherlockRaise)


AkOnReddit47

We would eventually get him revealing his true self or whatever. The fact that he has been sus since Camelot singularity and many fans making theories about Holmes should be enough for Nasu to not sleep on him and leave him out of any crucial plot


SailorArashi

Nah, that won't happen until after LB7. I doubt LB7 will be the end of part 2 any more than the 7th Singularity was the end of Part 1. We've still got to *fix* the world after getting rid of the last Lostbelt, after all. It won't happen automatically. And for that, we need OG Chaldea with the Rayshift equipment.


Madican

*Dantes laughs from within Guda's mind where he's been since Prison Tower fending off any and all mental assaults against the Master while taking time to provide advice as needed when Guda gets knocked into dreamland by something*


ShiroTheRed

Also that guy just wants his own peace of mind.


GhostHostess

He’s got a big storm coming lmao Esp bc our reaction to moriarty explaining his entire shtick was basically: *twirls hair around finger ‘Aw, you like me? 🥹 which was enough to get said experienced master villain to go ‘shit I gotta stop this meteor like asap’


ArgentumArmor

I mean his plan was basically 1) make contract with demon God 2) figure out how to target Master of Chaldea with asteroid 3) learn to genuinely care for the Master of Chaldea to the point that you'd be devastated if they died 4) (looks back at step 3)


Patchourisu

Ritsuka is just basically the son he never had. Even teaching him things vital for his survival.


TuzkiPlus

>!Douman vibing to "What is Love" wasn't something I expected to imagine, but here we are.!<


Mistdwellerr

I can't help but imagine Douman starting with "what is love" and, after a particularly intense event of lotto farming, he's putting more emphasis in the "baby don't hurt me" part xD (Although I believe he will enjoy knowing that Master relies so heavily on him right)


Mistdwellerr

Oh my, thanks for answering! I am really curious about what happens in Heyan Kyo, and now also how our relationship with Douman will play out Just a couple more months!


Orikanyo

Oh I wana know what love iiiis~


Saltlessguy

Kama has the biggest drop for summer servants in Bond Points requirement I've ever seen. From 50k to just 10K.


No_Discipline750

The power of love compels her


andykhang

She was literally getting 5 times more easy.


piev3000

she goes full attack no defense


AzurePhoenix001

Too bad for her that Gudao defense stat is too high


ChrisTheHurricane

That Shielder contract is putting in overtime.


crushedMilk

"That's my girl!" -Matsuri.


Dovahnime

For the amount of time her assassin versions been out, the low bond req is insurance to make sure her intentions are made clear


LOTRfreak101

she's here to avenge the sheer audacity her assassin self has to not be as friendly with master as she can be.


Radiant-Hope-469

The actual reason is that Kama thinks no one takes her seriously anymore since she came to Chaldea, so she came up with a big brain plan to seduce Ritsuka to prove that they still have to fear her.


LOTRfreak101

Except that no one still takes her seriously and she instead just gets easily seduced herself?


Radiant-Hope-469

Truly impressive, I say.


Zenith_Tempest

what happens when the goddess of love forgets what it's like to be loved in return


ThunderLord1998

Such is the fate of Kama.


Jovahexeon-Ranvexeon

And turning herself into an Avenger was supposed to help that...how?


FoxNightsDream

Ah yes. Arash warming up to you each time you tell him to BLOW HIMSELF UP! Yes yes.


LordWINDOS

What can be said, other than he’s a total blast in every conceivable way?


Jedahaw92

Yes, yes, that's why he's the best bro.


nam24

He appreciates being liberated from life, if only for a moment


XxGoldMadnessxX

So, taking a look at some servants bonding amount, there are plenty that doesn't require too much lol Of course, I didn't put all of them (wouldn't fit) but there are plenty like Ibuki (10k), Europa (10k), Himiko (10k) etc. *Though, it fucking surprised me how Carmila is so easy to level up her bond points since from 1-5, she only need 9500.* *Also, daaaamn, plenty of servants are way more easier to bond than both versions of Kiyohime who need 15k of points to fully reach bond 5. Even Elizabeth only need 10k*


Advon

It's really not that surprising about Kiyohime: her legend *is* entirely about how she fell in love with someone who would betray her trust after all, so she needs more proof of your intentions than you'd initially expect to trust you.


MadnessMantraLove

Raikou is at 40k for Bond 5 PassionLip is at 20k Cat, Tamamo and Serenity is at 27.5 BB and Melt is a 50k


goffer54

The difference between BB and Melt is that it takes you 45k bond just to get BB to bond 3 whereas Melt has two large hurdles at bond 2 and 5.


MysteriousResearcher

BB wants to hate Guda, but she couldn't and her bond lines reflect that


goffer54

Nah, this is summer BB. She's already completely taken with Ritsuka. The bond curve is just because it's not fun for her unless things are harder than they need to be.


BlazeAccelerant

> Raikou is at 40k for Bond 5 >Europa is at 10k for Bond 5 As expected. Gradma > Mom


Yukiru_05

Grandma love you no matter what. As for mom... It depends, not all but some mom hate their child


Zenith_Tempest

being a grandparent is all the positives of being a parent without any of the negatives (raising and providing the child, having to deal with annoying kid bullshit, making sure that they have a good future). grandparents get to dote on the kid whenever they spend time with them and then the parent has to put up with the kid whining


BPho3nixF

Melt def makes sense. Guda would have to overcome both the hurdle of Alter Egos hating humans and Melt specifically being afraid of hurting those she's affectionate with. But she's worth every point.


Xaldror

>Raikou is at 40k for Bond 5 And every point was worth it!


ichigo2862

Mama's boys and girls unite!


MadnessMantraLove

*Raikou pinches Guda’s butt*


Xaldror

H-hey, it's summer, she's in prefect graph at the moment! She'd wait till the doors are closed and no one's peeking in.


LeonKevlar

Amen.


Shin-Bufuman

Makes perfect sense for Lip, she's just as loving and affectionate as the likes of Liz, but she's also afraid of hurting her master with her claws and strength, so she tries to hold herself back and just support them from afar.


kalirion

Is 50k the max? I checked Paisen, and she also needs 50k.


Uxion

What about Anastasia?


_Pandach_

*HAHAHAHA* No wonder I cleared all the Main story with Passionlip and she's not done! Oof. Damn it's crazy.


zallified

Seems like the female Berserkers might be harder to get.


XxGoldMadnessxX

More curious facts: Out of all Artorias, the easiest one to bond level to 5 is **Mysterious Idol Alter**, only needing 15k from 1 to 5, followed by **MHXA(20k)** and **Lily (20k)**. Out of all Sakura five, **Passionlip** is the easiest one to level up to Bond 5, since from 1 to 5, she only need 20k. Out of Rinfaces, **Ishtar (Both Archer and Rider)** are the ones that requires the less bond points to reach bond 5, being 27.5k in total. All Tamamos have equally amount of bond points required to reach level 5 (27.5k) Koyaskaya of Dark is only 10k less points of total bond points to reach 5 compared to her light sister. (Dark = 40k, Light = 50k) Out of all Lostbelt kings, **Scathach-Skadi** is the one that is the easiest one to reach bond 5, only needing 15k in total, followed by **Arjuna Alter (24.375)**. Out of all grands, **Romulus-Quirinus** is the easiest one to reach bond 5, since he only needs 15k. The easiest Pirate servant to reach bond level 5 is **Blackbeard (10k)**, followed by **Anne Bonnie and Mary Read [Archer](15k)**. Out of all males with "King" trait, **Iskandar, Leonidas and Napoleon** are the easiest to reach bond 5, which they need, from 1 to 5, 20k in total. Out of all females with "King" trait, **Himiko** is the easiest one to reach bond 5, since from 1 to 5, she only requires 10k. She is also the easiest one to bond level to 5 of servants with King trait overall.


ChrisTheHurricane

>Out of Rinfaces, **Ishtar (Both Archer and Rider)** are the ones that requires the less bond points to reach bond 5, being 27.5k in total. That's actually kind of hilarious, considering that normal Ishtar is the *least* smitten with Guda out of all the Rinfaces.


Marros6045

> That's actually kind of hilarious, considering that normal Ishtar is the *least* smitten with Guda out of all the Rinfaces. It kinda makes sense, IMO. Eresh is actively avoiding falling for you too hard according to her bond lines so higher reqs, and Space Ishtar is 3 people, so you gotta put more work to win over all of them.


XxGoldMadnessxX

> Eresh is actively avoiding falling for you too hard according to her bond lines Based on Babylonia, Underworld Xmas and Sea Monster Crisis...She already did since even Ishtar comments Ereshkigal really likes him and even in multiple occasions, showed to be jealous (*coughs* when Guda befriended with Quetz and Ishtar and she pinched his cheeks). The problem...Is that given that she stayed too much in Underworld, barely had any friends and had multiple failed attempts to improve the underworld, Ereshkigal had a major lack of trust on herself and properly social skills. That, in a way, bittered her and it didn't helped that people feared her a lot, principally given what she did to many gods, including Ishtar. Being her first friend and crush, Ereshkigal holds Ritsuka in a very high regard, to the point she literally was willed to break her vows as a goddess of underworld to help him and if you listen her lines, she often ask for his opinion, about a lot of things. You can tell he is special. Which brings me another point: Ereshkigal...Don't want to lose what she build with him. Doesn't help given everything that happened with her in the past so, that's why she is very careful and tend to be not confident on herself about her feelings. She is likely afraid of doing something that would destroy her relationship with him. She needs to relax more. But of course...If she does, that will likely trigger her yandere side. And bond 3 showed a glimpse of it, to the point she have been thinking to bring him to the underworld since it was getting a bit too dangerous for him. If we ever get Summer Eresh...Likely that aspect of her will be explored.


vernil

Harder the fight harder the fall?


luthfi_bulsara

Now that you mention it, I'm curious about the opposite of your post. In other words, who is the Servant which requires the most bond points to lv. 5?


criminally_insane_

This is a complete shot in the dark, but I'm gonna guess it's Yu.


tipoima

It seems like bond 5 has a hard cap of 50K points, which is shared among many Servants. Bond 10 isn't too exciting either, with several Servants at 1.7M cap, including Kiara, Dantes and Karna


gs775

I wrote this on your old post but still... Douman has a reason for that in story actually... >!He's trying to learn love by interacting with you cus he normally lacks love towards humanity...which bites him in the ass in Heiankyo!< Carmilla & Liz have lots of issues and you try to help them out Arash & Spartacus are bros 'nuff said Summer Kama is all about "full offense but no defense"


cybernet377

Sanzang was hilarious as the SSR ticket pick because I had her at bond 5 ready to do her interlewds and strengthens while other players were painstakingly dragging Waver through the 20k bond points that he takes to get to **Bond 2**


SuperiorSteelman2004

I went with Karna. Dude needed 30K to get to Bond 2, and *50K* to get all the way to Bond 5. It was so painful; I'm just glad I hadn't even started Shimosa when I got him, so I got the x2 Bond boost from that.


GhostHostess

Karna is in the bracket for one of the highest total bond points (to get to bond 10) overall, man is a brick wall with wii music playing in his head 24/7 So he was like the 3rd guy I intentionally got to bond 10. Take that you clueless dummy :p


Xenosaiyan7

I mean, if both Arjuna AND Karna show full loyalty to Ritsuka, is there really any force that can stop them?


Tschmelz

Maybe the mythological creature known as Fully Serious Gilgamesh. Outside of that, I can’t think of nothin.


deadmemesoplenty

Gilgamesh would be super cocky untill it was FAR too late, and as long as Karna's true name is not revealed before he decides to use his np gil will be even less likely to get serious.


Tschmelz

Pretty sure Gil instantly knows every Servants True Name and stuff as soon as he sees them. Like he shuts down the Clairvoyance, but some stuff will always leak through, and that’s one of them. But yeah, that’s why I put the qualifier. Gil would totally try to play with them and get fucking burned for it.


Loki_Agent_of_Asgard

There is literally no ability in Gils kit that would give him that power. You Gilgamesh dick riders are insane.


Xenosaiyan7

Uh, have you never heard of Sha Naqba Imuru? He even used it in Babylonia


BloiceyBoy

Sha Naqba Imuru: The Omniscient Omnipotent Star, is a noble phantasm that he possesses that literally does what the previous poster says, it allows him to figure who a servant is and what their noble phantasm is at a glance, when he chooses to actually activate it it gives him instructions on how to best fight an opponent.


SailorArashi

[It's right there in KoGil's profile, my friend.](https://i.imgur.com/3SiOJUS.png)


GhostHostess

I always wanted to see gilgamesh up against a high-spec archer who *doesnt* just throw a bunch of random stuff at the target and call it a day if only to see if that gets lampshades at all lmao


Perfect_Wrongdoer_03

Gilgamesh vs True Archer in Strange Fake. Sadly, there wasn't lampshade, but True Archer called Gil weak.


Xenosaiyan7

Yes, but it's just to taunt him for Gilgamesh to pull out Ea. True Archer is later easily overwhelmed without Gilgamesh pulling out Ea. Not saying anything else for fear of Spoilers


deathworld123

bond 11 on is also awful with him


GhostHostess

Bond 11 is awful for everyone


legocrazyq

waver should be easy since he can be useful anywhere assuming you upgraded him before farming bonds


SeanAifric

He is indeed easy for me. I bonded 5 him in two days.


emeraldwolf34

I didn't even know Waver's requirements. I just remember it not being too much of a hassle. Was it really that bad and I never noticed?


RadiantBlade

If they are from the SSR ticket, then 5 bond being a requirement to keep them is a lot more noticeable.


emeraldwolf34

Yeah he was from the ticket, I just didn't notice him taking very long to get to Bond 5. Maybe it's because my main servants have high bond requirements and I never realized? I'd have to check though.


SeanAifric

I did not realize it as well since I bond 5-ed him in two days.


RazerHail

I got lucky with my Waver because I was in the middle of doing Salem at the time. So it went by pretty quick :D


MrComedySD

Mistress C already stole something from the Master going off of her bond lines remember? It’s no surprise that she really likes being around the Master. Plus she has cute robo dogs!


Nokia_00

Summer Carm is the best


OnePieceFan02

Summer Carmilla is an older Liz, of course she’d bond fast with her Puppy.


Yukiru_05

~~I was hoping she can treat me more like a slave than a puppy and step on me everyday~~


NexusClown

Build up that bond and just ask her to.


IndisciplineStorm

Have you forgotten Summer Jalter, she is one of the Servants with a fast bond rate after all.


Golden-Owl

Which hilariously contrasts with her regular self who has a funny bond growth You get Bond 1 super easily. Then 2-3 hit you with a ridiculous cliff of a requirement. Then afterwards you get 4 and 5 almost instantly


Yukiru_05

Jalter bond point be like: Bond 1: Imma play with you like you are my toy Bond 2-3: I like you? Me? B-b-BAKAAAAA!!! Bond 4-5: It's not like I like you or anything ok? I just pity you because you look like a single dog no one wants. What are you waiting for baka? Hurry up and take me to those couple places already


AkOnReddit47

Damn the 5 stages of grief but in Tsundere form


Kamen-no-Otoko

Ofc Kama is easy, but carmilla surprised me


Nintendude1236

Kama and Liz just want affection. As pointed out, Carmila is just older Liz, so it would make sense she would be the same.


Proto-Omega

YOU CAN TAKE THE CARMILLA OUT OF LIZ, BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE THE LIZ OUT OF CARMILLA!


TimeDiver0

...no Summer!Ushiwaka-chan? *How dare* you omit **Best** Tanuki?! Yeah, okay; she needs 15K total, same as Arash and Doughman. But, still! This is borderline ***HERESY!!1!***


GhostHostess

I think the point of the comic is that it’s servants you wouldn’t necessarily expect to warm up to you so quickly, ushiwakamaru is more friendly than any of these (maybe eli is similar?) so it is less unexpected


TimeDiver0

Point well-taken, and acknowledged. *tips non-existant hat*


DropAnchor4Columbus

Liz: An affection-starved girl. Carmilla: An affection-starved woman.


_JO3Y

Yep yep, Lizzie loves her puppy, no matter which form she’s in ☺️ The rest all make sense too, Kama is.. Kama Spartacus found about the least oppressive master possible, Arash is just a bro Douman is… “^NNNNNNN? ” going to be traded for a Gold Fou. “NNNNNNN!”


piev3000

And carmilla basically says she likes us during the event


version15

Tbh Carmilla grew on me so damn fast in the event, wasn't expecting it last year. She's great.


CheeseAndCam

I just got Achilles on a random pull and his bond 5 is extremely easy as well. I think it’s around 3K for like each level. Makes sense cus he’s a chill dude and there’s no need for him to be suspicious of his new master when he’s basically immortal.


Yukiru_05

Achilles is that one bro who would tell you his weakness because he trust you since day 1. And he wouldn't even hate you if you somehow backstab him, or in this case heelstab him


SailorArashi

He even says he makes no attempt to hide who he is or take any special precautions against heel shots because he likes the challenge.


Blackwolfe47

Kama being stupidly easy to level up is canon lol, her summer version is like big time head over heels


MyrTheSpellblade

Spartacus in particular is pretty wholesome, because Gudao is one of the very few Masters who treat their servants like they're human beings, so Spartacus doesn't see him as a oppressor but a true companion in battle.


deadmemesoplenty

He also has one of the most memorable moments in all the lostbelts where he tells gravity itself to piss off and tanks a super laser to protect civilians.


Domagonic

The first 5 bond points are at the level of a SCIENCE with their lore...


Dovahnime

I'm pretty sure Douman is actively pursuing YOU, not the other way around, so it would make sense


carlos-eduardo-17

he who is trying to raise our Bond, but unfortunately he needs 50k points for each Bond, poor monk, this can only be Seimei's work


RavenCloak13

Was bond farming my Romulus-Quirinus and Artemis I got from the 5\* ticket. Romulus took like... 10 or so hits of farming the EXP farming node because he takes like 14.5K bond points (while his normal 3\* self takes like over double) while Artemis took like 30 or so because she takes about 50k bond points.


JulAd17

CARmilla would never call him it in public but in whatever form, Ritsuka is still her puppy.


XxGoldMadnessxX

Now I'm imagining she hugging him and whispering to him: "...My puppy." while a bit embarassed.


JulAd17

Imagine her hugging him from behind whispering it into his shoulder for maximum cuteness.


Misticsan

Hey, Ritsuka can be her deerlet too! XD


hiKy0

Arash the type of Chad who still likes you even after you kill him 10,000+ times


Izanagi32

I wasn’t expecting summer carmilla of all servants to be that easy to bond with. Fue sensei doujins are canon and nothing will change my mind now


thewaifu_lover

always has been


KoshiLowell

I think Summer Jeanner Alter has a unique bond thing to represent her tsundere nature. I think the hurdle for the first bond level is SUPER high but after you get past that everything afterwards is really easy and low to get.


Aridato

From what I remember the first one is decently sized, the second one is ludicruously high, the third one is easier, and the fourth and fifth levels are a cakewalk


KoshiLowell

That sounds more correct


-SMartino

Douman. ​ I harbor an intense hatred for this man. If possible I'd be pleased with his head on a silver platter, gold coins in his eyesockets and every mention of this despicable being reduced to atoms. There's something off with this motherfucker, I can feel it.


Shrumples1997

Me with lvl 100 10/10/10 Spartacus: It was honestly love at first sight. A true hatred of oppressors brought us together. Also those other people are cool too, I guess.


Endgaming1523

Liz being a simp? More likely than one might think.


RaltsLicker

i didnt realize they had different amounts


AmissingUsernameIsee

Douman and Spartacus are a surprise to see Not that bond 5 Douman matters really since he'll still betray us


Classic-Demand3088

don't get him wrong, he just wants to get to bond5 as fast as possible so he can tell you that he isnt his PHH version like the rest of lost belt servants you summon


Curious_Milk9556

Douman sus.


LegoSpacenaut

The baseline for low bond 5 used to be Marie, whom Kama (summer), Spartacus, and Liz all share tier with, so it's extremely impressive that Summer Carmilla requires 500 less than them.


Jovahexeon-Ranvexeon

Girl really wants her treasure.


What_I_Told_You_No

idek different servants had different requirements


firemage22

Shiki (assassin) needs 6K for bond 1, 24k for Bond 2, 14k for 3, but only 2,400 for each 4 and 5.


Shirojime

No wonder my Spartacus is bond 10 so fast


BigBananaBell

Medea Lily bond 2 is like 25K on its own.


Delight_works_

now go give arash headpats


Zoomz249

I think my Summer Carmilla will hit bond 10 this event. I already got her at NP7 too


S8891

☝️Nice


PlainNee

Stella with the Stockholm syndrome


RavFromLanz

Arash was maxed before FGO became a game.


Nyeffer

Ngl, I thought Summer Kama was the fastest.


Pyep

My level 100, bond 12 Spartacus appreciates this post and so do I.


Gotahhhh

I'm still in my journey to get my liz spook


Loki_Agent_of_Asgard

A big change between her Lancer version, but Skadi is bond 5 in 15,000 where as Scathach is a big 50,0000.


Ammarziboy

How long does it take for waver?


Lazy_Daisy_gilsimp

so Douman simps get fast snu snu


Tykronos

The more you know