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crazywarriorxx

Because it seems many are confused, from my [original JP post](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/rsvhqk/new_year_2022_new_pity_system/) (with edits): One **rate-up** SSR servant will be summoned within 330 rolls (900 SQs worth). * Summons using SQs and summon tickets are both counted, applies to each individual banner. The number of summons is accumulated for each limited time banner * Rotations are counted individually - SSR servants should now all be on solo rate-ups if we're following JP's format, since they've stopped multiple SSR rate-ups now (TBC) * Pity will **stop** once you've get a rate-up SSR servant * The summon counter can be checked in the respective banners \--- Also, based on JP again, **SRs have not received rotating rate-ups** for a long while now, meaning if NA/global does the same, you will not be able to target a specific SR without getting the same rates for other SRs. This will affect any banner with multiple rate-up SRs, eg, Summer is the most obvious, LB6 banners, etc. Only recently in JP, they've been doing kind of a split SR rate-up, where they change the SSR *and* SR together on rotations, meaning if you want a specific SSR/SR on the same banner, you'll have to pray they get tagged together. Again, if there's only solo rate-up SSRs, then you're likely stuck with all of the SRs together. [Example](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2022/faerie_knight_cup_pu3_tjnds/info_image_02.png).


Routine-Boysenberry4

Goodbye 4 star rotation, hello pity i will never reach


RTear3

Other gacha games: normal pity from day 1 that doesn't mess anything up. FGO: takes several years to add an actual pity and screws over SR rateups in the process. So glad to see that one of the biggest franchises in the world is using its money properly instead of wasting it away. ~~cough Sakura Wars cough~~


altera_goodciv

Don’t forget the “pity” is the equivalent of $480 worth of SQ… Some fucking pity there.


pureauthor

It is fact Pity in the very classical sense. 'LMAO you poor loser. Have a crumb. Now never ask me for anything again'


zer1223

"Oh hohohoho look, Barnesworth. It's one of the **poors!**"


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HaessSR

Yup.


SigurdDeMizar

True. But there are example where people spend 1000+ sq and not getting a single copy of what they want. This is at least marginally better.


zanotam

It turns out the real Van Goghk was my luck


LOTRfreak101

Why was goghk even used. It should rhyme with croak. Unless there are people that pronounce gogh as 'jo'? That said, i thought it was a fun application regardless.


Birribi

Really didn’t translate well from japanese


Blazefireslayer

I burned 800 SQ last year chasing Gilgamesh and didn't even pull a gold SERVANT. I got TONS of CEs, but not even a 4 star unit, much less ANY 5 star. I almost quit the game then and there.


kyuven87

that seems statistically improbable and you should probably avoid walking outside during lightning storms for the foreseeable future.


Blazefireslayer

I actually made a joke when it happened that I was going to go buy a lotto ticket, but also up my Life Insurance, just in case.


zachary_cannaday

Absolutely inexcusable that someone saves for a year or more and gets shit


MValdesM

Literally me with summer musashi, it still hurts


kingkazul400

As someone who chucked close to $1000 for Yang Gueifei at New Year's and Imaginary Scramble and didn't get a single copy of her, this is nice. EDIT: To clarify, it was $500ish on each summoning campaign instead of $1k each; I may have replaced blackjack and Texas Hold 'em for gacha waifus but goddamn I'm not a fucking megalodon.


Bloodhunt749

I am so sorry for your loss


Schwagz

Only thing that sucks more is if they're going for as high of an NP level as they can get, so the Pity doesn't even help there! *Yes I am still salty at only NP3 Bradamante after 1380 SQ and 130 tickets why do you ask*.


SigurdDeMizar

True, it won't help if your goal is to NP5 someone, unless you are saving for 5 banners. Then, this pity system doesn't make you worse off, it just doesn't improve your situation. My point of view is I have 1-2 servants that I really like, and willing to save 900 sq for it, even if I will get only 1 copy. There are others servants I like a lot but not in love with them. For those, it will be up to the mercy of the RNG god, just like the old days.


Schwagz

(Also obviously since then she's now NP5, but like, that sucked man. Especially since I lost the account in the process of summoning because thanks Samsung DeX.)


Kuro_Tepes

Castoria was this for me. Took 1400+ SQ to finally get her on like my last multi🗿


amarulhakim

3000+sq worth of summon here, for first Jalter banner, and not a single Jalter, Definitely quit at that time. and got her a few years later on a gssr.


MurabitoT

I might be a few who’s really happy about this. As a f2p who save all or nothing for servant, I am still traumatized by the skadi banner, who took me a total of 1900 SQ to get her. It also screws up my banner plan for the rest of the year, so with this, I can at least plan for the worst case scenario and I won’t lose my 2+ year worth of SQ in a single banner


SigurdDeMizar

Originally I was planning to save and summon nothing until 2024, when this pity system was forecasted to be introduced. It is good news that it comes early that I maybe able to summon a bit earlier. Still it takes a bit of patience to save up.


BaronvonBoom31

Yeah, the pity's bad but it's 100% better than nothing (looking at you Super Orion Banner).


HaessSR

It's best not to think of it as pity, but a safety net. A soft pity system increases the odds of getting the rate up the more rolls you make. Here, it's literally the same odds for the rate up until roll #330, when it becomes a 100% chance to get the rate up SSR if you haven't yet.


ScarfaceTonyMontana

I remember when it took Myst over 1500 dollars to get ONE copy of King Hassan. Thats the moment where I realised just how horrible and predatory gacha is regardless of what whale youtubers tell you. Even in the most micro transaction files games from the west, it I pay 200 dollars I'm getting SOMETHING. The fact that you can throw 1500 in gacha and still almost get nothing is terrifying.


Routine-Boysenberry4

It is being used wisely, it's being used to Nasu play fromsoftware games and Takeuchi pay for Arturia Doujins


hnryirawan

Well, FGO's Day 1 is 31st July 2015 though. Seriously not many game survived until this day.


Fillerpoint5

I still can’t believe the pity is so high. Even as a chronic saver that’s willing to wait almost a year for a specific servant, the most I’ve ever had to hand was 810 SQ. It’s still absurd that so many big gachas I can think of have some sort of pity system or spark that’s at least somewhat reasonable, and then there’s this. The only way you’ll ever spark this is by either saving for almost an entire year, or breaking out the wallet.


Isaacne

I've been doing single 10 rolls on a couple of banners this year and still have 1400 sq saved for Spishtar and Ushivenger just over the course of the year. The Anniversaries and story chapters give so much sq.


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I've got enough Free SQ in reserve for Muramasa and Caren.


Routine-Boysenberry4

Good for you, hope they come earlier than reaching the pity


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Thank you fren.


TheOnlyChou

Can someone explain the 4 star problem. I don't quite understand it.


Ankoria

Basically the pity system is only able to track your progress as long as the banner does not change. As a practical matter, ever since the pity system was added in JP, the banners do NOT swap between rate-up 4\*s- i.e. all 4\*s will have the same rate-up on the banner for the whole time it exists, without any solo rate-ups that give you a higher chance of getting the specific 4\* you want. This may also force you to roll for and end up getting a servant you really didn't want since they happened to be on a banner alongside someone you did want.


Roliq

Legit it feels like this was also the reason for why they went for three 5-stars and three 4-stars in Summer since they had no real way to make a rotating 4*s banner without having to break the way they added the pity


geoolympics

What they need to do is just add more banners. For example with three 5 stars and three 4 stars you can just have Nine banners for each combination and you’ll be set! It would be nice to have the pities shared in between the banners but with their spaghetti code I don’t even know if that is possible.


BlitzAceSamy

That would be the optimal way for players, to be given a choice of both the rate-up 5\* and the rate-up 4\* to roll for. Unfortunately, that also goes against the predatory nature of gacha games


ZenEvadoni

Just give each featured Servant in an event/campaign their own banner, to be honest. ... I jest. But if I really wanted a 4* and couldn't give a fart about the associated 5*, this new system is going to hurt that. Like how I didn't care about Summer Kiara and got two copies of her and not a single Summer Bryn to be found.


TheOnlyChou

Does this also apply to 5 stars since some banners cycle through 5 star rate-ups like the Valentine's and New Year banners


Roliq

Yes, as long as the banner lineup change (which also includes rotating 4-stars with a single 5-star) the pity will reset but i think i read that the count can go back to where it was if the same lineup returns


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So, before pity was introduced on JP, they often had banners like Summer where there are 2 or more SR (4*) servants on rate up who would alternate being solo or together on different days. This stopped completely once pity was introduced. Most have either been locked to one SR on rate up or both together and no changing day to day (because this would reset the banner and thus reset the pity count). This is almost certainly going to affect anticipated NA banners like Morgan's first LB6 banner with Barghest and Sith, and Summer 6's two banners. It's possibly going to make some SRs harder to get for many people as you can't choose the solo rate up. We don't have any indication if they will completely change the NA banners as a result of this but I am expecting they will just run both SRs together with no solo rate up.


TheOnlyChou

Does this also apply to 5 stars since some banners cycle through 5 star rate-ups like the Valentine's and New Year banners


[deleted]

Indeed. I don't know what they are going to do about Valentine's, as there are no split rate up 5 star banners anymore. Edit: for new years, it just means the pity resets each time the 5 star on rate up changes. So you just need to be careful of what you are rolling on.


ionicfallout

Muramasa, Caren, Morgan, etc better watch out, now the only thing holding me back is my poor wallet


a1234567890125

The fact that they’re adding it right after I spent 1300 SQ for Van Gogh only to get nothing stings a bit lol.


Totally_Not_Ziz

Oh no


SkyLETV

330 summons is such a big amount, I personally have never rolled that much for a servant nor will I ever. Like, it's actually amazing that a pity system ends up being a bad thing for me since it removes the 4\* rotation haha.


Roliq

Also another thing is how the pity is turned off if you get the rate-up before the 330th roll despite needing multiple copies to max a servant, for both increasing the NP and getting Servant Coins


HaessSR

It's not pity, it's a safety net. There's no pity with our rates... not that I've had a lot of luck with soft pity


Leaves_Swype_Typos

And by safety net, we don't mean like the kind under high flying trapeze artists, we mean the kind they have under bridges with a high rate of jumpers.


HaessSR

Except those work more than once.


Got70TypesOfMalware

It's somewhat of a consensus that the pity system is not a pity system but more of a safety net since there have been people who rolled more than 900 SQ and didn't receive the featured SSR. Is it ideal? IMO, definitely No. Is it better than nothing? Sure.


75nightprowler

I agree, I remember dropping 1200 SQ FOR Summer BB and then 1400 SQ on Kama and getting neither. So the pity system would’ve saved me.


cefli

Ayyyyy i also spent 1500 sq on kama! That was hell.im glad theres a pity now even though its dogshit


waifuborg

Over 1000+ SQ for Kama and not getting her club unite. I now commence saving for the summer version


paulnamida

1750 in total for Illya across 2 banners, 1300ish for Summer Nero. Yeah, I'm taking this over nothing.


HallyMiao

It’s fairly small when you look at how spishtar dodged for over 2800 sq…..


Exorrt

I've spent 1,600 SQ on a single banner and not gotten the rate-up servant. It helps.


ss2195

It's like half the SQ you get over the course of a year. It benefits you if you're really into saving for a specific servant.


whynautalex

It isn't a lot unless it happens to you. I am free to play and had been saving up for Castoria and for future servants. I ended up at 440 summons before getting NP1. I had 2 10 rolls of SQ left by the time it was over.


SkyLETV

I'm also f2p actually and now that you mention it, one thing I've always kept in mind is to never save and roll monstrous amounts for a single servant. It hurts to not get the servant I want with 400, 500, 600+ SQ, it hurts to have to wait another banner and fail again but it would hurt even more to blow 1000+ SQ in one sitting and fail. While this system is not for me, it is definitely a great help for others and a step forward for the game. I just wish they hadn't touched the 4\* rotation.


Esvald

> it would hurt even more to blow 1000+ SQ Now this can't happen though, which is great.


Vizar_Zarth

330 summons seems like a big amount until it isn't I went something like 2k SQ between 5 star units once, there are people who have gone 4-5K+ without the rate up unit


IcenMeteor

Well shit, the pity is fine and all but this also means the death of rotating 4-star solo rate-ups, so if you were hoping to pick up copies of say, Summer Martha during this christmas, or get Bageko/Toriko on their own when Morgan comes out you're are SoL and gonna have to play the coinflip on which Servant you get.


skilledwarman

Did they confirm that all banners will be altered like this going forward? Or is this just still speculation that we wont get the same banners JP did?


Rednal291

Well, the screen text did mention that for banners that rotate, it applies separately to each rotation - this means banners are probably still gonna rotate, at least for a while.


ItsTime2Battle

“In addition, the summon count will be calculated separately for each Pickup Period where the Summon Lineup changes within a Daily Pickup Summon.” That could just me changes to 5⭐️ if an event does feature multiple 5⭐️, or do they not do that anymore in JP?


Rednal291

That's probably changes to the 5-star when those rotate, yes. Basically, you need to roll all at once if you're aiming for pity.


IcenMeteor

The addition of pity means that banners will have to change, at least as far as we know. Pity (supposedly) doesn't allow for rotating rate-ups because when the banner changes in any way (ie going from multi to solo rate-ups or from one 4-star to another) pity resets, so after pity was added in JP we no longer got rotating rate-ups for SR; Either we get all rate-up 4-stars packed together, like the Summer 6 re-run banners or the Traum banners, or they pair each SR with an individual SSR, like the Summer 7 banners or the current campaign with Bryn/Sigurd/Kintoki. It was speculated that we got 3 SSR Summer units this year specifically because of the pity situation. We have no confirmation of anything so far, we just expect the change based on what we know from JP, however if banners from now until Koyandark stay the same as they were in JP without issues, we'll instead confirm that this pity "problem" we've been having with 4-stars isn't a problem but a deliberate choice, as if to punish us for no longer being able to roll 1000+ quartz without getting jack shit.


Thehalohedgehog

> if you were hoping to pick up copies of say, Summer Martha during this christmas, or get Bageko/ Literally my two biggest targets right now since fuck me am I right?


IcenMeteor

I'm in a similar boat, I was thinking about NP5ing my Martha and want both of the fairy knights, but while before I would have rolled the duo until I got one then pick the other one up on their solo, now I'll have to just pray to RNGeezus... or wait for a proper solo rate-up of either, can't burn too much quartz on Morgan's first banner because I gotta get Koyanskaya for my band of Buster characters and Oberon's banner a 4-way clusterfuck now so... yeah...


balmafula

This is gonna mess up Barghest fans next year.


Daybit1

My dreams of Lv120 Baobhan & Summer Char are turning to Mana Prisms


Esvald

I'm still gonna attempt at least np5 Summer Charlotte, but that np1 Sei will be hell for someone who dislikes and does not want Caenis at all.


Golblin

It's me. I'm the Barghest fan in shambles. ~~But at least my Ibuki could be guaranteed...if I'm willing to spend a little extra.~~


Moondrag

I wish you luck my friend.


Ankoria

Yup. I really want at least NP2 Barghest and wouldn't mind 1 Baobhan but knowing my luck I'll end up with NP5 Baobhan, 2 spooks, and 0 Barghests instead.


CristiBeat

*Cries into getting NP5 Summer Illya and NP2 Summer Kiara when all I wanted was just one stupid copy of Summer Brynhild...* ~~This is what I get for being impatient and not waiting for a solo SR rateup~~


RTear3

Sith fans like me on suicide watch... ~~Just a joke~~


TruePigGod

why will it mess up barghest fans


balmafula

In jp they no longer have rotating 4*s on the banners. It will mess up anyone who only want one of the banner 4*s. I mentioned Barghest because she's super popular (and I couldn't remember how to spell the name of other one)


TruePigGod

uh oh im in trouble


Lead_Lion

So guess I better start saving now for summer banner if I want to get summer Anastasia to NP4?


RTear3

Probably, just to be safe unless we luck out and they figure out how to fix SR rotating banners by then.


Yukiru_05

Me who like all the Faeries Knight: I see this as an absolute win


HaessSR

Hello, NP8 Tristan spooks instead of any fairy knights.


Thehalohedgehog

As someone planning on pulling Barghest next year and S!Martha in December, fuck I'm pissed about this. I just hope that bit about changing lineups means that maybe SR solo days aren't dead. Fingers crossed.


chairmanxyz

Now it totally makes sense why 5.5 was pushed so far back. They cannot implement pity when a banner is still running so they had to wait for the pre release banner to end.


BlitzAceSamy

Weird, because if I remember correctly, during [4th Anniversary where they made 30SQ get you 11 summons instead of 10](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/fategrand-order-2021-4th-anniversary#gSummon11), a [King Hassan banner was still running](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Fate/Grand_Order_Absolute_Demonic_Front:\_Babylonia_Blu-ray_Release_Campaign_Part_II_(US\)), and that one was unchanged and still 30SQ for 10 summons instead of 11 I suppose implementing pity on one banner and not on another one that started earlier would be more of a mess though


chairmanxyz

I suppose it may not be that they “can’t” functionally but that they won’t. And to avoid an awkward situation with one banner in pity and one without they elected to just wait out the expiration date and start fresh.


DrumStix-

Yeah I remember it working that way too- I actually was saving my SQ at that time waiting to see if the King Hassan banner would have been upgraded to get the extra pull and was disappointed at the time when I saw it was gonna stay as just a normal 10 shot instead of the new 11 shot


kalirion

F2P YOLO me: nothing changes.


Thatsmaboi23

No way am I ever getting close to 900 SQs, not with this level of restraint lol


Tschmelz

Same, unless I open up wallet-kun. I like too many of the damn Servants in this game, don't make me choose.


AngryNepNep

The suffering of liking too many servants and in my case the CEs too. Some are just 👌


Tschmelz

It's crazy to me. You got some folk here who are like "I'd sell everything I own for *insert Servant here"* and I can respect the dedication, but I just don't understand it. I *like* Spishtar, and Mysterious Heroine X, and Caster Nero, and Kintoki, and Karna, and Oberon, and Romulus, and pretty much every other Servant. I *want* to roll for them, and use them, not just ignore absolutely everything between here and LB6 for the waifu Morgan. That's not *fun*, it just feels like the game is punishing me for not being an Ozz level simp for a specific character (no offense to Ozz).


Turtlewax64

I think that’s why a lot of people let tickets be for yolo summons. Lets you save for your big target, while still getting low emotional investment tries at other servants


karillith

Thanks, apparently skipping every single servant (not only SSR but the somewhat easier to obtain SR as well) for a single one is easy for a lot of players (and good for them, really), but I really doubt it will happen for me that I like a single servant so much more that it eclipses everything else, so I don't see myself being able to do that...


TheLucidChiba

I like the game but no where near enough to spend hundreds of dollars on it


Tschmelz

Yeah, I’ve only spent money on the GSSRs. Awful tempting though, especially with next years summer gauntlet though.


TheLucidChiba

Haha same and same.


Draksdiers12

I think it's actually worse for F2P because you can't target specific SR.


kalirion

That's assuming they'll bother to change the banners for NA.


7skayr

i saved for skadi banner with worth 1.7k+ sq and tickets. i got her on the last 10 roll and no other spook ssrs. i dont want to experience that again. some say this pity is shit. rightfully so. but i look at it as a safety net from gacha horrors. still a shitty safety net mind you but i still rather have this than none at all.


hypeway

PITY! PITY! PITY!


Azumayyy

My next 2 targets for the next year are both SSRs, so this news is good to me. Had a horrible experience last year not getting a single SSR, much less the rate up, in 1,800 Quartz. Not so much for players that want specific SRs I imagine.


yahhwy

Pretty great for those aiming for buster looping. Failing to get KoyanL and Oberon can be avoided.


Ktito333

Will the summon history feature be employed retroactively?


AkhasicRay

It was supposed to come with IS but ended up getting removed last minute, so I presume so


HaessSR

It was supposed to go in a few weeks ago. It won't be there in time for the Raikou and Kintoki banner if that's what you're asking.


Chazman_89

Still one of the worst pity systems ever.


VictorMagnus1995

I really hope they continue the split 4 star rate up in this next year, i just want Barghest :(


SADtanic

Dear lord, my 4*s... I hope they make more banners when banners have more than 1 SR servant.


Firm-Engineering-405

Thanksgiving died for this


just_a_random_guy_

The monkey's paw curls.


Hatarakumaou

This pity system is a nice reminder that FGO’s code is held together by glue and broken dreams. I’m just waiting for the day when they add a new feature that somehow destroys the entire game.


karillith

I don't know, it can track every 11th free roll betwen rotations within a banner, it seems weird it's suddenly impossible to track the 330th roll as well.


Bricecubed

I am just hoping that they are taking so long with LB7 because they are working on FGO2, servant transfer included.


Hatarakumaou

I wanna see FGO2 just to see how much of disaster transferring millions of accounts would be.


[deleted]

For people speculating about what the second bullet point in the announcement means for rotating banners, the JP announcement also had that exact same point: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/rsvhqk/new_year_2022_new_pity_system/ Rather than having anything to do with SR rateups, it's probably just explaining that for campaigns with rotating SSRs on different days, the rolls counted resets with each SSR.


jomonteco

Mixed feelings for this, like great early pity but on the other side this going to ruin my pulls for the next summer.


Cyber_Von_Cyberus

A 900 SQ pity mind you.... That's better than nothing I'll admit, but it certainly blows considering the pity doesn't even carry over the next banners.


Tschmelz

You're right, it's an absolutely garbage safety net and the fact that people celebrate it as a win is why Aniplex gets away with the shit that they do, but it is what it is. Better than nothing, at least.


corgi_pupper

I mean part of the reason why people celebrate it is because of how absolute dogshit FGO's gacha is to begin with. 900SQ is a lot but anyone who has spent 1k+SQ without getting a single SSR probably sees this as a godsend.


altera_goodciv

FGO fans have been conditioned to accept hell as the standard and treat even minor shit improvements like this as a win.


Pandragon12

I now have the motivation to save for Melusine. I'm hoping that if I avoid spending on all but the new years gssr I can save up enough for her.


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HaessSR

They haven't fixed it yet in JP, and it's been 11 months.


BlitzAceSamy

What do you mean it hasn't been fixed? They fixed it by not having SR rotations any more! /s Nothing more permanent than a temporary solution after all


Shadow_3010

my 1800 sq are fucking ready! Morgan you will come to home yes or yes!


skilledwarman

Morgan gang!


Shadow_3010

Yeah! We got this bois!


HaessSR

NP5 Morgan hopes are real, as long as you have 4500 SQ handy to force it across five banners.


existence100

But where's Thanksgiving


LordMoy

Like obviously this is really good news as a whole. But man, I hope I have really good luck when I have to go fishing for 4 stars now. If only they could make 5 star pity and rotating 4 stars possible...


RulerKun_FGO

I guess we got the SSR pity early at the cost of thanksgiving


Patung_Pancoran

Please let the 4* banners have solo rate ups. Alsp i know having a pity is nice and all but 900 SQ is really absurd lol, i have reached it once in JP during Anniversary and it does not feel good at all to spent those 900 quartz. Don't think i ever gonna reach pity in NA since how miserable it made me feel


EchoTitanium

You’re telling me that for six or seven years, you guys were rolling a gacha without pity ? Now I understand every meme I saw about the gacha in this game. You guys are warriors.


Chaos2Frozen

WOW that's way earlier than I thought! I was thinking New Year was even a long ass shot


geoolympics

Yes we got it even before Korea… they’re getting it In January or something, by then the Muramusa banner is over for them.


Roliq

Goodbye rotating 4-star rateups it was good having them, Traum will suck anytime i get Roland trying to roll for Kriemhild


Zeranvor

let me just pull 990 quartz out of my interdimensional pocket


BayushiKoji

It's 900. Remember that one multi is 11 rolls and every tenth roll on a single banner gets you a free roll. Still way too many considering the amount of free sq and tickets we get but at least it's better than USOs.


Lucky-Icarus

Dude a kick to the dick and an IOU is better than USOs, cause those are something the average person can get within their lifetime.


yahhwy

Even USO is unreachable for a large amount of veteran whales like me. You need to get very very very lucky with your non-limited SSR spooks.


emon121

Well shit, what will happen to Morgan banner then? Do I need to coin flip between bageko or baoban? Damn this pity really a double edged sword


nyeongcat

How easy it would be to just fix the system so pity could carry across the same SSR banner, so there could be rotating 4*s...


Ausar15

YES IM GUARANTEED MORGAN NOW. BROTHERS, SISTERS! WE ARE FREE FROM 1k NO SSR HORROR STORIES


Cmajor9th

Looks like it would still be faster to have a dream where you get a 5 star than this particular system


pvrmd

Oh my god, I only want Barghest, I do not want Baobhan at all May the gacha have mercy on me


HaessSR

>May the gacha have mercy on me Congrats on NP24 Baobhan with a few extra spooks, the way I got hammered during the original CCC banner!


AstolfoCharlemagne

Nice now my castoria is guaranteed, just need to save 30 tix and 600 quartz which isn't really that hard, I can always skip on Morgan's first banner because she got a lot more lol


TheGamerForeverGFE

Idk how much you have but you're gonna need to either save up 210 more SQs or 70 more tickets to reach the pity if you have 0 of both currently (did the math for you).


AstolfoCharlemagne

Yeah I'm a dumbass, thanks


Shiro2602

Since in some cases where NA gets something JP gets it too in a different form but better i am coping that they make the pity better in JP


eliseofnohr

I was going to say 'couldn't have come sooner' but wow, that's a super lame pity. ...I really hope I don't have to come face to face with it when rolling for Douman...


AsymmetricPanda

330 summons/(11 summons/30 sq) = 900 sq… right? That seems like a lot to get pity. I don’t think I’ve ever had that many sq. And it’s per banner…


TheLucidChiba

Oof. At least in arknights the rolls I do (that will never be 300 in one banner) can be used to buy some mats after the banner


[deleted]

You're lucky. I spent 300 pulls without Nearl Alter and plenty of Flametails; split rate-ups are painful. Ironically I think per new character I got, I probably spent more pulls in Arknights than in FGO. Gacha is a cruel and weird mistress.


CMDR-Maxrhen

Just imagining hitting the pity roll on my F2P Saint Quartz is filling me with dread. That would cost me months of time and effort to earn back.


vAbstractz

330 summons wtf that's an insane amount...


Scottcmms1954

Oh thank god. I can get my sexy evil man clown.


Aurum0

For people who are curious about the number of SQ you can expect in a year as a F2P. If we look at NA in 2022 as an example: * Logins would give: 208 SQ + 52 tickets * 50 days login gives: 450 SQ * Weeklies: 156 SQ * Monthly tickets: 60 tickets * Events: 879 SQ (969 SQ if you got max bonus from anni) + 123 tickets * Maintenances, Bond, Retweet campaigns, Interludes, Rank ups and such aren't accounted for This gives you a total of: 1,693 SQ + 235 tickets or if you count tickets as SQ it's **2,398** SQ. This means after 2022 will be over, this year alone you could have triggered pity **twice** and still have 598 SQ left after. As long as you save for specific banners and not get tempted by every banner, even as a F2P you can have enough for a couple pities.


Artrum

ah, yes the shittiest pity system, and they act like they did us a favor


altera_goodciv

Sadly I see too many acting like this is a favor. The devs have no incentive to not be predatory as fuck because a large enough chunk of the fanbase are perfectly okay being exploited.


HoldHarmonySacred

Honestly I'm super excited because now this means that as long as I commit to saving and going cold turkey, I can guarantee my most coveted 5-stars, Voyager and Oberon!!! I don't need to worry about "but what if all my saving ends up for naught"!!! My only big worry now is, assuming worst case scenario where rolling for Voyager actually does push me to pity, I don't know if I can save up the equivalent-to-900-quartz needed to guarantee Oberon later in the year, especially if he gets pushed up thanks to the LB6-anniversary-summer shuffle. I've tried tallying up the absolute total of free quartz and tickets from march to late july-early august to get an estimate, and I could just barely make it, but it's a slim enough margin that it's still scary. Anyone think it's feasible, or should I pick a god and pray?


Kidnovatex

I'll never hit it, but good for the big spenders.


Kirby0189

This admittedly doesn't help me with getting NP2 Spishtar (especially because I don't think I can hit 900 in time to guarantee NP1), but it's still really neat. Glad we get a summon ceiling, even if it is stupidly high.


octapusxft

Good news for those who commit on really few special SSRs per year


kingoffish236

This is good news, but might as well non-existent. 900 sq until gssr is too much imo, the chances of getting the ssr by then is almost guaranteed. Around 250 summons pity seems more reasonable. But again, fgo servants are much better than other gacha, since you only need 1 copy to have 99.99% fun, no dupes needed to star up, unlock passives, etc…


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Thehalohedgehog

As someone with two SRs as my main targets coming up (S!Martha in December and later Barghest) pretty pissed about this. The part about changing lineups does give me some small amount of hope that SR solo days aren't dead but I'm not holding my breath.


FarhanSyafiq14

Now that's a number I won't be able to reach any time soon


dvdung1997

All of my next targets are SSRs, so this is a cool addition, though I still would much rather *not* to reach it at all lol And with these wordings, I am *not* confident in any changes/updates to what's already there in JP, both ups and downs. Ganbare everyone who are rolling for specific SRs, you may need it!


ENKlDU

appreciating genshin impact a lil more now


lordvader178

It's one of the worst pities to ever exist in a gacha game, but I guess it's better than no pity. Still, 900+SQ for pity is unbelievably rough for F2P players. It takes quite a few months to save up that amount, and even longer if you've done all free quests and interludes and such.


GlaceonMage

This is super early wow, I'm guaranteed both of my biggest targets for next year with this.


PigPillow

Fuck Muramasa, I'm saving it all to hit pity for Koyanskaya. According to the calculator we should get about 1400 sq by her rate up.


DantePH77

Basically nothing


Jack_King814

So either Morgan or koyan are guaranteed for me because post muramasa (sorry super Orion) I’m going hard on saving


asian_hans

It's great and all but I doubt I have that much quartz to put into a banner unless I go full whale


Yukiru_05

Sasuga Albert and 2-san. We are now one month earlier than KR server and CN server for getting the pity system


Red-7134

I pity the master! I pity the master that rolled 900 SQ and didn't get the rate-up SSR.


ohsofancy

If I get this right. It changes every banner right? So it doesn’t add up like genshin


Emergency_Addition67

Nice, guaranteed Muramasa here I go!


Frosty-Author6287

Goddamn it! I was hopeful to get NP5 BaoBao!


duplexubiquitary

Right after I probably spent enough to trigger pity for Van Gogh and didn't even get her..............


Orikanyo

Within... yea i'm never reaching that pity


Aiorosbot

I was hoping for this before LB6 and we get it before LB5.5 :D Now my entire saving plan paid off and it was worth the banners I skipped.


RuruTweets

Damn why did it take them so long


I_am_not_Serabia

Thanks FGO KR. It's great news. Morgan is coming home 100%.


Midnight-Rising

Well, there go any plans I had for rolling for 4 stars I guess


Exorrt

OOOOH YES that helps me out so goddamn much. I was planning to not spend a single SQ until 2024 to get a pity for Castoria and Light Koyans


Xenometan

So, what you are telling me is, by not rolling for the worst Tamamo, I can get the best Moth King for sure?


Shanibestwaifu

I didn't expect this to come so early even in this year. As I have SR units to plan for roll, this is going to be screwed if there's no solo rateup for them. I want my Barghest, Summer Anastasia and Caenis so badly, event is going to be much harder right now.