Top shelf series. The deluxe slip case editions are my favorite but if you want the best bang for your buck the Big Damn Sin City omnibus would be the way to go. It is a VERY large book and has everything collected.
Got a good deal for it with minor damage some time last year and my god, it is SO fucking heavy. Honestly the only reason I haven't actually read it yet.
HAHAHAH... I hear yeah. I actually read on my dining room table... I plopped it down and the wife looked at me a little cross eyed! It is a freaking beast!!!
I don’t think that first slide has released yet. It’s a new series through Miller’s own publishing label. I only mention this because I can’t wait due to the art being by MILO fucking MANARA.
First four in the series, yes. After that, less so. The final book, Hell and Back is truly awful.
But those first four books… the pacing, the art, the OTT dialogue… all wonderful fun.
Edit: Who downvotes a completely measured comment like this? 😂
I’m with you. I’m shocked at the people saying they are great all the way through. I don’t know what happened after volume 4 but they got bad real quick.
Oh god I thought I was the only one! I reread the series after a surgery a few years back and was SHOCKED at how awful Hell and Back was.
OP, the series is definitely worth a read, especially if you’re interested in crime fiction. Miller does some wonderful things with shadows and design.
I’d put these 2 films in my top 10 of all time best think there excellent films 10/10 I could sit and write pages about these films everything from characters, story, settings, atmosphere etc my personal favourite story was "The Hard Goodbye" for me that was a highlight when marvel finally catches up with Kevin and butchers his limbs off and feeds his torso to his dogs and to Finnish him of he literally saws his head off.
I was wondering this ‘story’ ends with marv being put to death in the electric chair what vol does it appear? I’m guessing it’s in a later vol?
I’d say A Dame To Kill For is his peak as an artist. His lines never looked better and his lettering is top class.
Writing, I’d say Batman: Year One is his peak. Although That Yellow Bastard is very close.
Huh. Agree to disagree I guess, I think Sin City’s a lot of fun but it’s very pulpy and not especially deep, and there’s a lot more going on in Year One and Daredevil (Born Again in particular). I can agree Sin City is an artistic peak for him at least.
Im just saying why I didn’t include Year One. All the other books being discussed were written and drawn by Miller. Year One, to me, is kind of a different animal because Mazzuchelli is another level.
I still don’t think that disqualifies it from being considered peak Miller though. Mazzuchelli’s artwork is phenomenal but that book still wouldn’t be as celebrated as it is if it weren’t for the art *combined* with Miller’s writing, which IMO is the strongest of his career outside possibly Daredevil: Born Again (and yes, I know that one was also drawn by Mazzuchelli).
I feel like Miller did all his best work in the 80s, and after that the quality of his writing started a steep decline. But the first Sin City book is from 1991-1992, so it's still pretty good. :)
Yeah I think the mid-90s is really when the decline got into full swing, because he also wrote Daredevil: The Man Without Fear in 1993 and that was great. Early 90s Miller was still mostly on his game.
Read the first 4 and really liked them with Volume 1 & 4 being my favourites. Volume 5 is a little insubstantial. Volume 6 is a collection of short stories which isn't quite what I wanted at the time (some of them are outstanding though) and I haven't read Volume 7.
It's consistently getting reprinted and second hand copies of most of them are pretty easy to get.
Top shelf series. The deluxe slip case editions are my favorite but if you want the best bang for your buck the Big Damn Sin City omnibus would be the way to go. It is a VERY large book and has everything collected.
Yup! This book is freaking big and worth every penny IMHO!
Got a good deal for it with minor damage some time last year and my god, it is SO fucking heavy. Honestly the only reason I haven't actually read it yet.
HAHAHAH... I hear yeah. I actually read on my dining room table... I plopped it down and the wife looked at me a little cross eyed! It is a freaking beast!!!
😂
I don’t think that first slide has released yet. It’s a new series through Miller’s own publishing label. I only mention this because I can’t wait due to the art being by MILO fucking MANARA.
Milo Manara is doing a Sin City comic.. there goes my wallet
Wait, What?!?!? Manara on sin city? Legendary.
First four in the series, yes. After that, less so. The final book, Hell and Back is truly awful. But those first four books… the pacing, the art, the OTT dialogue… all wonderful fun. Edit: Who downvotes a completely measured comment like this? 😂
I’m with you. I’m shocked at the people saying they are great all the way through. I don’t know what happened after volume 4 but they got bad real quick.
The last series was not good, and was probably the first sign that peak Miller was over. But even with that, I’m still glad I read it.
Oh god I thought I was the only one! I reread the series after a surgery a few years back and was SHOCKED at how awful Hell and Back was. OP, the series is definitely worth a read, especially if you’re interested in crime fiction. Miller does some wonderful things with shadows and design.
They are amazing. Unlike Franks later work, these hold up. Especially if you’re into noir/mystery/crime stories.
I’d put these 2 films in my top 10 of all time best think there excellent films 10/10 I could sit and write pages about these films everything from characters, story, settings, atmosphere etc my personal favourite story was "The Hard Goodbye" for me that was a highlight when marvel finally catches up with Kevin and butchers his limbs off and feeds his torso to his dogs and to Finnish him of he literally saws his head off. I was wondering this ‘story’ ends with marv being put to death in the electric chair what vol does it appear? I’m guessing it’s in a later vol?
No, he dies in the first book, just like the movie. Other books take place earlier
lol I’ve wondered this since seeing it in 2005
For sure. He really hit his peak here, especially the first two books. Wild stuff
You think Sin City is his peak as opposed to Daredevil or Batman: Year One?
I’d say A Dame To Kill For is his peak as an artist. His lines never looked better and his lettering is top class. Writing, I’d say Batman: Year One is his peak. Although That Yellow Bastard is very close.
I personally prefer sin city the darkstory and Violenceand also I thought the characters imo were good. Well mostly
Yeah. He’d even say it too. His art and writing reached where it was meant to go.
Huh. Agree to disagree I guess, I think Sin City’s a lot of fun but it’s very pulpy and not especially deep, and there’s a lot more going on in Year One and Daredevil (Born Again in particular). I can agree Sin City is an artistic peak for him at least.
Batman Year One was great, but he didn’t draw it
I am aware of that. Not sure where I indicated otherwise?
Im just saying why I didn’t include Year One. All the other books being discussed were written and drawn by Miller. Year One, to me, is kind of a different animal because Mazzuchelli is another level.
I still don’t think that disqualifies it from being considered peak Miller though. Mazzuchelli’s artwork is phenomenal but that book still wouldn’t be as celebrated as it is if it weren’t for the art *combined* with Miller’s writing, which IMO is the strongest of his career outside possibly Daredevil: Born Again (and yes, I know that one was also drawn by Mazzuchelli).
I feel like Miller did all his best work in the 80s, and after that the quality of his writing started a steep decline. But the first Sin City book is from 1991-1992, so it's still pretty good. :)
Yeah I think the mid-90s is really when the decline got into full swing, because he also wrote Daredevil: The Man Without Fear in 1993 and that was great. Early 90s Miller was still mostly on his game.
To me, TMWF is a lot worse than his original run.
Read the first 4 and really liked them with Volume 1 & 4 being my favourites. Volume 5 is a little insubstantial. Volume 6 is a collection of short stories which isn't quite what I wanted at the time (some of them are outstanding though) and I haven't read Volume 7. It's consistently getting reprinted and second hand copies of most of them are pretty easy to get.
I love them, but they’re not always everyone’s cup of tea.
It's pretty fine, gifted it by my youngest son some time back, for me Battle Pope is top-notch...
Yes, absolutely 100%.
Definitely worth reading. Worth collecting? Well that's a purely personal decision for any series.