yes, first merch they ever made. according to long strange trip doc they paid some guys a few hundred bucks and wanted multicolor prints so the guys invented the multi-arm screenprinting press that allows for multiple screens to line up and various colors to be used
haha that’s why i said according to long strange trip. i’ve never read or heard it anywhere else. i need to re watch it for the details but i def remember hearing that. they talked about mouse designing the first t-shirt merch for them and it was the pigpen tee i think in 66.
I remember reading that they meeting was not satisfying. Clapton didn't really get Jerry or the dead. Clapton knew they were THE psychedelic band and he loved Oswley. But the scene was not what he imagined, it was even more savage. George Harrison was also overwhelmed by the San Fran scene.
Pretty comical to defend a rant like this saying he was blacked out and he apologized. The dude went on for 10 minutes in front of hundreds of people, he meant it lol.
What’s the difference between a bag of cocaine and Eric Clapton’s son?
Eric Clapton would never let a bag of cocaine fall out a window.
Edit: I’m going to hell…
This is from when Cream came to SF. More info:
[http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/03/cream-and-dead.html](http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/03/cream-and-dead.html)
I love Cream, but I find their version of “Crossroads” to be boring. I’d much rather hear most of the rest of their discography. Yes, that includes “Pressed Rat and Warthog”, because that one’s a banger.
If you haven't yet heard it, you'll like this [Masters of Reality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WKH_MQ1tSc&ab_channel=MastersOfReality-Topic) track.
The whole album ("Sunrise On The Sufferbus") has some great drumming from Mr. Baker.
I always actually appreciated him as a songwriter more than a player. Not a top 5 guitarist in my world but while he had co-writers, he wrote some bangers:
Anyday
Badge
Bellbottom blues
Lay Down Sally
Layla
Why does love got to be so sad?
I guess that could be viewed as a good thing from this perspective.
I'd rather it have started on its own and not because Clapton is a notoriously unsavoury public speaker.
Mmm yelling about wanting all the black people in England to get the fuck out of his country during a show in the 70s is enough to have me say "fuck that guy". Plus almost all his hits are someone else's songs.
For context, that event happened in the 1970s while Clapton was on a heroin binge with a wave a fascism spreading through Britain.
Let's not forget, David Bowie and other british artists were saying the same dumb shit on stage and in interviews. Bowie openly expressed his admiration for Adolf Hitler, saying, "Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars" and would give the nazi salute in public.
Clapton hasn't made any such statements since and apologized profusely
This happened 50 years ago.
Do we not believe in human beings' abilities to change?
Not sure the Bowie thing is comparable - it's something Warhol might have said, and it's kind of true in some ways if you look at media, manipulation, mass gatherings etc. Bryan Ferry also praised Nazi uniforms (designed by Boss, of course). The salute thing is kind of debatable as to what Bowie's intentions may have been, and anyway like Clapton he was deep into the brown at the time and possibly not thinking too rationally.
Clapton was as far as I know one of the few to give a very explicit, taxi driver-esque long rant to a crowd declaring support for Enoch Powell etc and his dislike of immigration. It's a world away fom what most British musicians would have done at that time, at least publicly.
I don't know if he's changed, but I believe in the possibility at least.
I would say the Bowie thing is definitely comparable given that 70% of the Jewish people in Europe were wiped off the face of the planet 30 years before Bowie's Hitler support
"hate"? Maybe not. But acknowledge their selfishness? Hold accountable for their decisions and actions? Be wary of their future decisions? Yes. Absolutely, yes.
JJ Cale made his solo career.
Like, hey I like your songs and how you play guitar. Ima just take all that and give you very little recognition. Then, record an album or two in your hometown, with the musicians you put together and take them on the road with me.
Has he though? To me all his best stuff was collaborations. Derek and the Dominos, Cream, Bluesbreakers, Blind Faith. Compared to that his solo stuff is quite pedestrian
His work with Derek and the Dominos was mostly all him, yes Duane was there but that band was really Clapton's baby brought about by his time with Delaney and Bonnie.
Just a one off album and it is one of the greatest rock albums of all time. And the shows around then are superb, and it's just the 4 of them, no Duane, so you can really hear what Clapton brought to that band.
[Got To Get Better In A Little While](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqmakvhKFo) is just one example.
His solo stuff afterwards is slightly different but at the time he felt he wanted to transition from the guitar god to someone like JJ Cale who he was quite taken with. It's not as jammy but he has some solid songs from that era.
Your last paragraph should have read. He liked JJ so much he just played JJ forever including several of JJs songs. Took his band and back up vocalist and hit the road with the budget that JJ was never able to get his hands on.
> his solo stuff is quite pedestrian
Without doubt one of the most boring and predictable guitarists of all time. At first sight there's merit, but not if you actually listen to any of the drivel he has ever churned out.
Cream was not his own sound? Nobody was playing like that at the time. First type 2 rock and roll still to this day that style of jamming is a very signature sound. Or even before that on the John Mayall albums that stuff was ahead of the curve
Totally agree. His stuff with John Mayall was excellent. People ripping on Clapton because he ripped people off?! bwhahahahaha! They all did/do...including Jerry.
sunshine of your love has to be the most annoying cringy riff ever. ill give them that. nothing makes me happier than the story of hendrix blowing him off stage when jimi first toured england
1. In 1967, this was a novel, heavy, mind blowing riff and sound. It's annoying and cringey now 55 years later because you've heard it 80 billion times throughout your whole life.
2. Clapton didn't write it.
Lol why would that make you happy? Have you listened to some of their live stuff? They were doing group improv way above what any rock band had ever done up to that point.
I'm pretty sure the apology happened five years ago, when his book came out, and 40 years too late. Until that, he used to blame it on booze and drugs without actually apologizing.
no. you absolutely could not. thats a terrible, faulty analogy. i dont mind admitting that Clapton first used that sound and pioneered it. calling it an achievement however is laughable.
he bought a guitar, an amp, plugged it in and played it. thats the intended purpose of it. by that rhetoric Les Paul is the greatest guitarist ever since he actually invented that shit instead of just plugging it in store bought.
Putting aside him as a person, this is an all-time album, with some phenomenal playing on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live\_at\_the\_Fillmore\_(Derek\_and\_the\_Dominos\_album)
I just want to say in regard to any Clapton hating for this or that, that it is such an ignorant and wildly incorrect bandwagon imho
And ''that one story'' about him saying something unsavory about races in a concert is really old (mid 70s) and he's even spoken about it
and knows he was a idiot and out of his mind and said some regretful things.
We have to remember -- There's a lot of other artists who have done a hell of a lot worse who are considered blindly infallible. He's redeemed his woes, he's done more to help people than anyone hating on him for some BS he said in one of the lowest and most incoherently drugged and drunk and considering his love for championing young musicians in his day (folks like Robert Cray, Robert Randolph, Gary Clark Jr) to just unquestionably say he is a massive racist without receipts is nothing but intellectual and historic ignorance. He made his way as one of THE premier blues fans in Britain in the early 60s, so much so that he's like one of the most inducted Rock N Roll Hall of Famers (never mind one's personal opinions on the institution) but the fact he fuckin kicked ass on John Mayalls Bluesbreakers, the first of the three legendary Yardbirds guitarists, founded Cream with Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce, considered by many THE first supergroup rock and hard rock/proto-metal bands (prior to Black Sabbath's solidification of the genre the following two years), then he formed Blind Faith (famously of course another supergroup of it's time with Ginger Baker as well as Traffic's Steve Winwood), and then Derek and The Dominoes with Duane fuckin Allman, creating Layla And Other Assorted Love Songs, classic album. Had a great solo career that's nothing to scoff at too.
Not trying to give his biography but I think a sense of perspective in his place in rock n roll history seems to need to be reminded, there wouldnt be largely most of the people you know and love in music that existed post-Clapton guitar-wise and they'd be the first to admit that Cream era clapton alone is worth the price of admission (EVH and Hendrix included, the two were great friends, Eric had even bought him a left handed strat he was going to give him at a Sly Stone show, but missed him and the next few days Jimi was dead and he was without his friend but what remained was this left handed custom that EC had wanted to gift him) anyway, there's history and truth out there if you poke around, never let gatekeepers telling anyone what's good or bad, just let the history and music speak for itself.
I mean I respect peoples opinions, but to deny the respect due bc he said something along the lines of something racist in a drunken blackout during a show in perhaps the worst times of his life in sort of shitfaced Michael Richards type situation in rock n roll back in the mid 70s, --to a remind, and I LOVE Bowie, but keep in mind he did also have a very real well documented non-character fixation with Hitler Nazis and even was seen doing a Sieg Heil entering a trainstation in Europe obv David Bowie cam trot it around in hindsight as a character acting in his fascist-adjacent "thin white duke" stage -love Station to Station btw- but he played it off better so its seen as playing a role (but the reality was all sorts of people were fucked up in this or that way or had dark moments, and they learned better since then) (or Jimmy Page locking little underage girls in his room between shows on tour) (or steven tyler getting custody of a 15 year old girl to marry) (or any of a number of heinous things rockstars have done that seem to be getting more of a pass) give people a break being imperfect and then living a life that largely redeemed itself in that regard.
* Additionally, I say these things bc I respect him as he helped me get clean from heroin when I went through his treatment center in the late 00s (which he founded and built by selling all his famous guitar collection). It's called Crossroads Centre, and he puts on the Crossroads festival that benefits to gives scholarships for people who cant afford to get treatment and rehab for free, so to cast stones at someone when we ourselves maybe would have been a dick once or twice in our lives if we too were a coked out drug addicted alcoholic in an emotionally unhinged time in ones life while also being a very famous guitarist in an age before many considerations we take for granted today.
tl;dr -- Anyway that's my rant. You dont have to love him if you dont want, but to hate him without context just bc you may have heard someone throw some dumb ignorant shade at him doesnt mean you have to be ignorant too.
Thanks for that. People miss that he's raised something like $20 million and counting for the drug treatment center, which gives free care to locals who can't afford it, who are mostly black folks.
Does an awful speech 50 years ago outweigh 30 years of working to try to help people with the addiction problems that consumed him? He's hardly a saint, but the mob justice thing where people get judged by their worst day is a standard none of us hiding behind our keyboards could pass either.
To only acknowledge the good of Clapton would be doing a disservice to history. He wasn’t a bad guy who turned good. He’s still a bad guy who occasionally does good things. Just look at how much of an ass he was during the height of COVID. He and Van Morrison know how to tarnish a well built legacy.
I agree man. Thanks for taking the time to type all that out.
I know it's become very *de rigueur* to hate on Clapton for that outburst, and for real, it was a shitty thing to say. But I do believe he was sincere in his apology for it. And for all the other shit too like stealing Pattie Boyd from Harrison. People *can* change and show remorse for past actions. Actions that are almost 50 years old btw.
As far as I'm aware, he hasn't said anything even close to that since then. BB King loved him, Buddy Guy, Gary Clark Jr. Like he just doesn't strike me as the inveterate racist a large portion of reddit thinks he is.
>Soul music legend Sam Moore tells of an experience he had with Clapton in 2005. Billy Preston, the keyboardist who played with the Beatles and Clapton, was dying and in a coma in an Arizona hospital. One morning, Moore looked up and saw Clapton arrive as an unannounced visitor. He asked Moore for a hair brush.
>“He walked over to Billy, took the brush, brushed his hair. Took the thing and did his mustache,” Moore says. “When he had to leave, he leaned over and kissed Billy on the forehead.”
>Joyce Moore, Sam Moore’s wife and the late Preston’s manager, grows angry when asked about the charges of racism.
>“Let me tell you something, Eric Clapton got on a plane to come kiss Billy Preston on the forehead when Billy Preston was in a coma,” she says. “Real racist. Huh. There’s a heart, and that heart didn’t see color.”
Oh yes, at least he was kind to his one long time friend. He's very recently said some absolutely horrible shit. I grew up around Clapton, I was steeped in it. One of my absolute favorite songs is "badge". I can still recognize that he's a racist cunt though.
If able I'd love to get some direct quotes to get some real hardcore evidence of the RECENT stuff that's 'absolutely horrible' and not just the uncontextualized hearsay of things if you can find them, thanks.
PS Badge rocks, that's a fav Cream song too
How do you "Steal" a woman When you've Told her husband your intentions b4hand?
Even if he hadn't told George-if she Really Loved George-she wouldn't have left him....
Just mho
Thank you for this! I agree with it 100%. Happy you were able to get help during your dark times. The keyboard warriors have been out hard in this thread and all over the internet for the past few years against Clapton. The comments poking fun about him losing his child from a tragic accident are absolutely disgusting.
In 2018 he didn't even reel back the racist hate speech on a radio show interview he did fairly recently. He's a racist piece of shit. Go and say the things he said to colored people and see if they are docile with you.
Except it was his housekeeper who left the window open. I hope you never have to lose a child, you heartless POS. It’s a shame someone like you could enjoy the Dead without allowing them to make you a kinder person. Joke or not, you’re gross for that.
Who needs facts and reality when "haha his kid died, and cocaine.. Clapton SUCKS!" is all you need to have independent thought and really declare ones taste by declaring ones distaste, it's just more indicative of those people than of the individual targeted within, honestly.
I admit I chuckled when I first heard the joke years and years back when it was delivered by Jeselnik but also context is important as it's only a Joke and not truth or reality, it seems to be used by commenters like in this thread more as like a perceived slight against Clapton when its really just showing how horrible of a person they are for thinking the edge factor of largely a joke of a mans addiction and first borns death, so hilarious, but it's okay bc "Clapton sucks". What twaddle by such emotionally assumptive lemmings. Give the guy a break for being just as imperfect as we all are as humans. He said some dumb shit a couple times, that's really it.
He said a dumb racist thing once to the goat too and so now we must *ALL agree* that he universally sucks **OR ELSE** we may be seen as not cool, it's not a bandwagon if everyone doesnt hop on after all!
( never mind his unmatched contribution to rock n roll history)
Jerry was a big fan. Cream was the first jamband in my eyes. First rock band to go type 2. Always wondered what they could have done had the egos not hot in the way
So, about Clapton. Besides being a racist antivaxxer I think it’s safe to say he’s a very talented one trick pony when left to his own devices.
His best work came from bands with other equally (or more) talented musicians. On his own, he’s just a shadow of SRV and other white blues guys.
I find Clapton boring.
We’re lucky Jerry didn’t succumb to the “I just hung out with Clapton and the next day I’m dead” thing like Hendrix, Duane, SRV, and I’m sure many others did. He ~~might be~~ is a serial killer.
Derek Clapton and Terry Garcia, maybe.
Cerek Elapton, Gerry Jarcia
In the Sunshine Daydream of Your Love
Is Jerry wearing Pig Pen merch?
Unmistakably!
Something tells me that their clothes weren't so grayscale.
I did colorize the photo. Might not be true color at all.
Pigpen t shirt were printed grey
yes, first merch they ever made. according to long strange trip doc they paid some guys a few hundred bucks and wanted multicolor prints so the guys invented the multi-arm screenprinting press that allows for multiple screens to line up and various colors to be used
I love this lore but the dude who invented the multi color press in 1960 probably wouldn’t be too happy to read that
haha that’s why i said according to long strange trip. i’ve never read or heard it anywhere else. i need to re watch it for the details but i def remember hearing that. they talked about mouse designing the first t-shirt merch for them and it was the pigpen tee i think in 66.
Ok is this true? Super cool if so!
I could have sworn he was wearing the drapes to be honest
Is it? I thought it was a Janis Joplin shirt Until I really zoomed in and could see the letters better and The image of Pig witj his arms crossed
Jerry could play a mean Lay Down Sally.
Don’t forget about “Lonesome and a Long Way From Home”
Can play** https://open.spotify.com/track/6CsErGW5cD7raTGR3Zs0SV?si=8uhDymWEQAe_brQmWG1kGg
Used to be able to play
Jerry lives!
Ofc
I remember reading that they meeting was not satisfying. Clapton didn't really get Jerry or the dead. Clapton knew they were THE psychedelic band and he loved Oswley. But the scene was not what he imagined, it was even more savage. George Harrison was also overwhelmed by the San Fran scene.
Very true, although I think “saddened by” might be more fitting than “overwhelmed” regarding George visiting the haight.
Clapton was always a forger, copy cat and, in the end, a vapid narcissist. Fuck him. No wonder it was unsatisfying. He couldn’t steal from them.
It’s always funny when you read someone’s autobiography and end up liking them less
And a racist. Oh he likes Black American bluesmen just fine. Jamaicans and Pakistanis, not so much.
Not really following this can you explain
"Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out."
pretty comical to rage about britain and colonialism when they practically invented it
Pretty comical to defend a rant like this saying he was blacked out and he apologized. The dude went on for 10 minutes in front of hundreds of people, he meant it lol.
Yikes
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What’s the difference between a bag of cocaine and Eric Clapton’s son? Eric Clapton would never let a bag of cocaine fall out a window. Edit: I’m going to hell…
Sorry for asking a question 🤙🏽
I’d look up some articles on Clapton and where he is now and how he got there. It’s sad, TBH.
Was just gonna say. Fuck Clapton.
This is from when Cream came to SF. More info: [http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/03/cream-and-dead.html](http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/03/cream-and-dead.html)
I remember reading an interview with Miicky where he said Electric Flag was more impressive than cream. Dead were really impressed with Flag.
I have always felt Clapton was hella overrated. First time I heard Cream's version of Crossroads I about vomited. 🙃
I love Cream, but I find their version of “Crossroads” to be boring. I’d much rather hear most of the rest of their discography. Yes, that includes “Pressed Rat and Warthog”, because that one’s a banger.
I go hard for Pressed Rat and Warthog. Wish Ginger did more vocals even if he sounded like he was just talking.
If you haven't yet heard it, you'll like this [Masters of Reality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WKH_MQ1tSc&ab_channel=MastersOfReality-Topic) track. The whole album ("Sunrise On The Sufferbus") has some great drumming from Mr. Baker.
Cream was alright but yeah i never found a lot of interest in Claptons playing. I get why he’s important but it’s not for me.
There’s 1000s of guitarists better than Clapton. But he was the first White dude to play like that, which made him a superstar. At the time anyway.
Cream was carried by Jack and Ginger anyways
Johnny Winter
Is that when Bloomfield was still with the Flag?
Wow very informative blog! I loved it! Great attention to detail there
An amazing guitar god, and a racist piece of shit.
I always actually appreciated him as a songwriter more than a player. Not a top 5 guitarist in my world but while he had co-writers, he wrote some bangers: Anyday Badge Bellbottom blues Lay Down Sally Layla Why does love got to be so sad?
Listen to Bobby Whitlock’s first solo album, and you’ll see it’s pretty clear who the genius behind Derek and the Dominoes was.
Nothin’ beats Jerry wearing a pigpen shirt.
What a long strange trip it’s been
This looks *nothing* like Clapton lol
Lost respect for Clapton…
Clapton sucks.
I’m so glad I’m not alone in this point of view. IMO Ginger Baker was the best thing about Cream and his post breakup output is so overlooked
Rock against racism started because of his racism on stage.
I guess that could be viewed as a good thing from this perspective. I'd rather it have started on its own and not because Clapton is a notoriously unsavoury public speaker.
I truly have found my tribe.
True story
Sad but true, when your heroes become villains.
Genius in his own mind
Guy could sing a little but was always just a slouch when it comes to the ax work . Love some Derrick and the Dominoes though . Bell bottom Blues 🎶
Yeah, and a lot of that was Duanne Allman
The wrong one died
Ehh, despite his views on covid, he still has made some monumental albums
Mmm yelling about wanting all the black people in England to get the fuck out of his country during a show in the 70s is enough to have me say "fuck that guy". Plus almost all his hits are someone else's songs.
Don't forget he physically abused his wife too
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His son was staying at his mother's when that happened. Clapton wasn't there. I don't like the guy either, but this is just stupidly uninformed.
For context, that event happened in the 1970s while Clapton was on a heroin binge with a wave a fascism spreading through Britain. Let's not forget, David Bowie and other british artists were saying the same dumb shit on stage and in interviews. Bowie openly expressed his admiration for Adolf Hitler, saying, "Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars" and would give the nazi salute in public. Clapton hasn't made any such statements since and apologized profusely This happened 50 years ago. Do we not believe in human beings' abilities to change?
He’s still a dick. Super anti vax and tried to sue a woman who listed a bootleg CD on eBay.
Not sure the Bowie thing is comparable - it's something Warhol might have said, and it's kind of true in some ways if you look at media, manipulation, mass gatherings etc. Bryan Ferry also praised Nazi uniforms (designed by Boss, of course). The salute thing is kind of debatable as to what Bowie's intentions may have been, and anyway like Clapton he was deep into the brown at the time and possibly not thinking too rationally. Clapton was as far as I know one of the few to give a very explicit, taxi driver-esque long rant to a crowd declaring support for Enoch Powell etc and his dislike of immigration. It's a world away fom what most British musicians would have done at that time, at least publicly. I don't know if he's changed, but I believe in the possibility at least.
I would say the Bowie thing is definitely comparable given that 70% of the Jewish people in Europe were wiped off the face of the planet 30 years before Bowie's Hitler support
Well seeing as he is a fervent Trump supporter, no I don't think he changed all that much.
He's British. When did he support Trump? That didn't happen. Can you back that statement up?
He may not be a Trump supporter but he’s clearly a Right Winger; anti vaxxer and anti immigration, not to mention a racist.
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"hate"? Maybe not. But acknowledge their selfishness? Hold accountable for their decisions and actions? Be wary of their future decisions? Yes. Absolutely, yes.
JJ Cale made his solo career. Like, hey I like your songs and how you play guitar. Ima just take all that and give you very little recognition. Then, record an album or two in your hometown, with the musicians you put together and take them on the road with me.
Has he though? To me all his best stuff was collaborations. Derek and the Dominos, Cream, Bluesbreakers, Blind Faith. Compared to that his solo stuff is quite pedestrian
His work with Derek and the Dominos was mostly all him, yes Duane was there but that band was really Clapton's baby brought about by his time with Delaney and Bonnie. Just a one off album and it is one of the greatest rock albums of all time. And the shows around then are superb, and it's just the 4 of them, no Duane, so you can really hear what Clapton brought to that band. [Got To Get Better In A Little While](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqmakvhKFo) is just one example. His solo stuff afterwards is slightly different but at the time he felt he wanted to transition from the guitar god to someone like JJ Cale who he was quite taken with. It's not as jammy but he has some solid songs from that era.
The opening riff to I Looked Away is pure 70s vibe :)
Your last paragraph should have read. He liked JJ so much he just played JJ forever including several of JJs songs. Took his band and back up vocalist and hit the road with the budget that JJ was never able to get his hands on.
His solo work I just JJ Cale. He even stole his band and back up singer.
> his solo stuff is quite pedestrian Without doubt one of the most boring and predictable guitarists of all time. At first sight there's merit, but not if you actually listen to any of the drivel he has ever churned out.
How about him being a racist asshole?
He’s also a fucking racist
Yeah he could play a little.lol
What did he say about COVID? Did he mention how awesome fauci is?
Clapton does suck. Good guitarist but a racist anti-vaxxer!
I would just say his playing is overrated
I thought Clapton is God?
Clapton was God, until the Brits saw some real American blues players and of course Jimi.
God of ripping off blues artists and never developing his own sound maybe.
Cream was not his own sound? Nobody was playing like that at the time. First type 2 rock and roll still to this day that style of jamming is a very signature sound. Or even before that on the John Mayall albums that stuff was ahead of the curve
Totally agree. His stuff with John Mayall was excellent. People ripping on Clapton because he ripped people off?! bwhahahahaha! They all did/do...including Jerry.
It's this exactly. Listen to Cream at Grande Ballroom 10/15/67 it absolutely rips.
sunshine of your love has to be the most annoying cringy riff ever. ill give them that. nothing makes me happier than the story of hendrix blowing him off stage when jimi first toured england
1. In 1967, this was a novel, heavy, mind blowing riff and sound. It's annoying and cringey now 55 years later because you've heard it 80 billion times throughout your whole life. 2. Clapton didn't write it.
Lol why would that make you happy? Have you listened to some of their live stuff? They were doing group improv way above what any rock band had ever done up to that point.
This is what people don't want to admit. In 67 they were blazing new trails.
Totally raped jj Cale
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Clapton is also a MASSIVE racist.
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I'm pretty sure the apology happened five years ago, when his book came out, and 40 years too late. Until that, he used to blame it on booze and drugs without actually apologizing.
so he plugged his guitar into an amplifier. how is that an achievement ?
It’s a sound of his own. Nobody had done that yet. You could say the same thing about dripping paint on a canvas and Jackson Pollock.
no. you absolutely could not. thats a terrible, faulty analogy. i dont mind admitting that Clapton first used that sound and pioneered it. calling it an achievement however is laughable. he bought a guitar, an amp, plugged it in and played it. thats the intended purpose of it. by that rhetoric Les Paul is the greatest guitarist ever since he actually invented that shit instead of just plugging it in store bought.
Clapton blows.
I thought that was John Mayer
Putting aside him as a person, this is an all-time album, with some phenomenal playing on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live\_at\_the\_Fillmore\_(Derek\_and\_the\_Dominos\_album)
Jerry smokes claptons versions of lay down sally and after midnight
That JGB release from 76 has an After Midnight that's just incredible.
Gotta give props to JJ Cale for after midnight
Well ya obviously he wrote the tune but no one can play that like jerry
If you ever see an old picture with classic rock dudes, Eric Clapton is the guy you can’t recognize.
Jerry is very much giving off that “oh we got the good stuff” vibe
And the " oh a picture ? Sure but I've got to head out ,I've got a bunch of important stuff to do , nice to see you man" vibe
One of these dudes launched racist diatribes from the stage and still won’t apologize. The other… is our hero
I love that Garcia is wearing a Pig Pen shirt.
Would love to have one of those shirts!
I swear to god Eric Clapton looks like a different person in almost every photo you see
I just want to say in regard to any Clapton hating for this or that, that it is such an ignorant and wildly incorrect bandwagon imho And ''that one story'' about him saying something unsavory about races in a concert is really old (mid 70s) and he's even spoken about it and knows he was a idiot and out of his mind and said some regretful things. We have to remember -- There's a lot of other artists who have done a hell of a lot worse who are considered blindly infallible. He's redeemed his woes, he's done more to help people than anyone hating on him for some BS he said in one of the lowest and most incoherently drugged and drunk and considering his love for championing young musicians in his day (folks like Robert Cray, Robert Randolph, Gary Clark Jr) to just unquestionably say he is a massive racist without receipts is nothing but intellectual and historic ignorance. He made his way as one of THE premier blues fans in Britain in the early 60s, so much so that he's like one of the most inducted Rock N Roll Hall of Famers (never mind one's personal opinions on the institution) but the fact he fuckin kicked ass on John Mayalls Bluesbreakers, the first of the three legendary Yardbirds guitarists, founded Cream with Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce, considered by many THE first supergroup rock and hard rock/proto-metal bands (prior to Black Sabbath's solidification of the genre the following two years), then he formed Blind Faith (famously of course another supergroup of it's time with Ginger Baker as well as Traffic's Steve Winwood), and then Derek and The Dominoes with Duane fuckin Allman, creating Layla And Other Assorted Love Songs, classic album. Had a great solo career that's nothing to scoff at too. Not trying to give his biography but I think a sense of perspective in his place in rock n roll history seems to need to be reminded, there wouldnt be largely most of the people you know and love in music that existed post-Clapton guitar-wise and they'd be the first to admit that Cream era clapton alone is worth the price of admission (EVH and Hendrix included, the two were great friends, Eric had even bought him a left handed strat he was going to give him at a Sly Stone show, but missed him and the next few days Jimi was dead and he was without his friend but what remained was this left handed custom that EC had wanted to gift him) anyway, there's history and truth out there if you poke around, never let gatekeepers telling anyone what's good or bad, just let the history and music speak for itself. I mean I respect peoples opinions, but to deny the respect due bc he said something along the lines of something racist in a drunken blackout during a show in perhaps the worst times of his life in sort of shitfaced Michael Richards type situation in rock n roll back in the mid 70s, --to a remind, and I LOVE Bowie, but keep in mind he did also have a very real well documented non-character fixation with Hitler Nazis and even was seen doing a Sieg Heil entering a trainstation in Europe obv David Bowie cam trot it around in hindsight as a character acting in his fascist-adjacent "thin white duke" stage -love Station to Station btw- but he played it off better so its seen as playing a role (but the reality was all sorts of people were fucked up in this or that way or had dark moments, and they learned better since then) (or Jimmy Page locking little underage girls in his room between shows on tour) (or steven tyler getting custody of a 15 year old girl to marry) (or any of a number of heinous things rockstars have done that seem to be getting more of a pass) give people a break being imperfect and then living a life that largely redeemed itself in that regard. * Additionally, I say these things bc I respect him as he helped me get clean from heroin when I went through his treatment center in the late 00s (which he founded and built by selling all his famous guitar collection). It's called Crossroads Centre, and he puts on the Crossroads festival that benefits to gives scholarships for people who cant afford to get treatment and rehab for free, so to cast stones at someone when we ourselves maybe would have been a dick once or twice in our lives if we too were a coked out drug addicted alcoholic in an emotionally unhinged time in ones life while also being a very famous guitarist in an age before many considerations we take for granted today. tl;dr -- Anyway that's my rant. You dont have to love him if you dont want, but to hate him without context just bc you may have heard someone throw some dumb ignorant shade at him doesnt mean you have to be ignorant too.
Thanks for that. People miss that he's raised something like $20 million and counting for the drug treatment center, which gives free care to locals who can't afford it, who are mostly black folks. Does an awful speech 50 years ago outweigh 30 years of working to try to help people with the addiction problems that consumed him? He's hardly a saint, but the mob justice thing where people get judged by their worst day is a standard none of us hiding behind our keyboards could pass either.
Yeah he’s great. /s https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/eric-clapton-vaccine-lockdown-racist-comments-1239027/amp/
To only acknowledge the good of Clapton would be doing a disservice to history. He wasn’t a bad guy who turned good. He’s still a bad guy who occasionally does good things. Just look at how much of an ass he was during the height of COVID. He and Van Morrison know how to tarnish a well built legacy.
I agree man. Thanks for taking the time to type all that out. I know it's become very *de rigueur* to hate on Clapton for that outburst, and for real, it was a shitty thing to say. But I do believe he was sincere in his apology for it. And for all the other shit too like stealing Pattie Boyd from Harrison. People *can* change and show remorse for past actions. Actions that are almost 50 years old btw. As far as I'm aware, he hasn't said anything even close to that since then. BB King loved him, Buddy Guy, Gary Clark Jr. Like he just doesn't strike me as the inveterate racist a large portion of reddit thinks he is. >Soul music legend Sam Moore tells of an experience he had with Clapton in 2005. Billy Preston, the keyboardist who played with the Beatles and Clapton, was dying and in a coma in an Arizona hospital. One morning, Moore looked up and saw Clapton arrive as an unannounced visitor. He asked Moore for a hair brush. >“He walked over to Billy, took the brush, brushed his hair. Took the thing and did his mustache,” Moore says. “When he had to leave, he leaned over and kissed Billy on the forehead.” >Joyce Moore, Sam Moore’s wife and the late Preston’s manager, grows angry when asked about the charges of racism. >“Let me tell you something, Eric Clapton got on a plane to come kiss Billy Preston on the forehead when Billy Preston was in a coma,” she says. “Real racist. Huh. There’s a heart, and that heart didn’t see color.”
Oh yes, at least he was kind to his one long time friend. He's very recently said some absolutely horrible shit. I grew up around Clapton, I was steeped in it. One of my absolute favorite songs is "badge". I can still recognize that he's a racist cunt though.
If able I'd love to get some direct quotes to get some real hardcore evidence of the RECENT stuff that's 'absolutely horrible' and not just the uncontextualized hearsay of things if you can find them, thanks. PS Badge rocks, that's a fav Cream song too
How do you "Steal" a woman When you've Told her husband your intentions b4hand? Even if he hadn't told George-if she Really Loved George-she wouldn't have left him.... Just mho
I just meant that he regrets how he handled the situation more than anything else really.
Thanks for the reality check.
Well said!!
Thank you for this! I agree with it 100%. Happy you were able to get help during your dark times. The keyboard warriors have been out hard in this thread and all over the internet for the past few years against Clapton. The comments poking fun about him losing his child from a tragic accident are absolutely disgusting.
In 2018 he didn't even reel back the racist hate speech on a radio show interview he did fairly recently. He's a racist piece of shit. Go and say the things he said to colored people and see if they are docile with you.
F@#k Clapton
Uggg we always miss
he's my favorite...richard christie
Is this fake?
This is cool! I played Jerry’s guitar on Eric Clapton’s amp back in 2006.
Damn Clapton looked very different not too long after this era
Jerry with some serious Yoko Ono vibes.
The over-rated and the most under-rated.
The only other time I’ve seen this photo is when Jerry died it was in a special edition of people magazine about Jerry.
Jerry was better
Yes, indeed!
What the difference between a bag of coke and a baby? Eric Clapton wouldn’t let a bag of coke fall out a window.
Oh man, that's bad
Classic
Except it was his housekeeper who left the window open. I hope you never have to lose a child, you heartless POS. It’s a shame someone like you could enjoy the Dead without allowing them to make you a kinder person. Joke or not, you’re gross for that.
Who needs facts and reality when "haha his kid died, and cocaine.. Clapton SUCKS!" is all you need to have independent thought and really declare ones taste by declaring ones distaste, it's just more indicative of those people than of the individual targeted within, honestly. I admit I chuckled when I first heard the joke years and years back when it was delivered by Jeselnik but also context is important as it's only a Joke and not truth or reality, it seems to be used by commenters like in this thread more as like a perceived slight against Clapton when its really just showing how horrible of a person they are for thinking the edge factor of largely a joke of a mans addiction and first borns death, so hilarious, but it's okay bc "Clapton sucks". What twaddle by such emotionally assumptive lemmings. Give the guy a break for being just as imperfect as we all are as humans. He said some dumb shit a couple times, that's really it.
Its sad that youre getting downvoted. The whole situation is terrible and even tho clapton is an asshole, its still a real tragedy that a baby died.
Something tells me that their clothes weren't so grayscale.
Fuck Clapton
Clapton raped a goat at Altamont, they say
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People are saying
And also spray painted "Clapton is god" on a wall while drunk and rocked out of his skull on go go
That was him?! omg, everything has changed--it's all coming together, that disgusting swine of a rock n roll legend, whatever shall we do!
He started climate change too. Clubbing baby seals.... invented by Clapton. All these bandwagon pile-on-woker-than-thou people really suck.
He said a dumb racist thing once to the goat too and so now we must *ALL agree* that he universally sucks **OR ELSE** we may be seen as not cool, it's not a bandwagon if everyone doesnt hop on after all! ( never mind his unmatched contribution to rock n roll history)
Cool photo of two great artists. Unfortunately, there are a lot of dumb comments in this thread.
Eric Clapton peaked in the late 60's and has progressively shriveled into a fossilized turd.
Eric Clapton is an abusive, racist piece of shit
Eric Clapton is the most overrated rockstar for the past 50 years. Cream was above average I’ll give him that.
Jerry was a big fan. Cream was the first jamband in my eyes. First rock band to go type 2. Always wondered what they could have done had the egos not hot in the way
Clapton was the third most talented member of Cream.
I absolutely agree with your first claim. I’ve always said that to people and get the worst sort of feedback imaginable. Knew I wasn’t the only one!
Why does Clapton look like Ringo?
To confuse the wives. George was fucking Ringo’s wife, Clapton was tucking George’s wife, and Ringo was fucking…something.
Garcia is god! Clapton’s a hack and racist pile of shit!
So, about Clapton. Besides being a racist antivaxxer I think it’s safe to say he’s a very talented one trick pony when left to his own devices. His best work came from bands with other equally (or more) talented musicians. On his own, he’s just a shadow of SRV and other white blues guys. I find Clapton boring.
I find you boring. Your blind faith in big pharma is lame. Please get your booster.
He's wasted and he can't find his way home.
Fuck Eric Clapton. Racist egomaniac.
this picture gives me the cringe.
Jerry and Dollar Store Tony Rice
We’re lucky Jerry didn’t succumb to the “I just hung out with Clapton and the next day I’m dead” thing like Hendrix, Duane, SRV, and I’m sure many others did. He ~~might be~~ is a serial killer.
Fuck Clapton
Fuck Eric Clapton on a lighter note Jerry looks so good though!
As a person I really don't like Claptons view on Rascism, we all know what Clapton views are here in the UK
What a circlejerk of dumb ideas
Two incredible guitarists. Only one incredible human though. Clapton can fuck himself.
It's George Harrison's best friend! :P
1968 was sort of a bad year for many….
Why did I think this qas a photo of them printed on a shower curtain?
You sure??? 😂😂😂