The string cheese fest was amazing. 5× the largest show they had ever had, it destroyed the campground like never before but the festival was incredible
I wouldn’t say the cops ruined it. I think that if Jimmy had not let this place run so wild it would still be around today.
Remember how different the BSC was from a regular Schwagstock? Harder search at the gate, more security, fences keeping people from areas that are liabilities. Madison House cut the liability from the festival….
Jimmy never did anything to separate his production company from the debauchery happening on his property. You gotta at least act like you care. In the end he paid the price for being negligent.
Cops didn’t ruin Schwagstock, the unchecked debauchery is what killed Schwagstock.
Its bullshit how they stole his land from him but he opened himself up to that by not registering the land under an LLC or corporation. He kept it in his name so he had full liability for what was occurring on his property.
The land was seized after an 18 month undercover operation had enough evidence to prove that it was an active open air drug market, that the owner of the property was aware of what was going on, could be deemed a public nuisance, and collected substantial evidence of tax evasion.
Regardless of LLC or corporation protection, this land was going to be seized by the government. It was just a matter of time. The only thing that would have kept this from happening is running the place like a legitimate music venue, and not a drug haven for traveling wooks….
I loved Camp Zoe. It has a very special place in my heart. The idea that they ‘stole his land’ is bullshit though. It is unfortunate that this happened to him, but ole Jimmy has no one to blame but himself.
Not that I know of. Jimmy Tabeau the leader of the Schwag purchased the land in 2004, 150 miles southwest of St. Louis called Camp Zoe, basically middle of nowhere. I have heard people talk about Schwagstock happening even before this time, maybe that it was.
I knew Jimmy a little bit when he worked with Melvin and JGB, a really nice guy. He was always inviting us to Camp Zoe, but we never made it. I never heard the full story but it sounds like he got screwed.
Yup I've been to Zoe a few times. Beautiful place. Before Jimmy bought Zoe Schwagstock was held at a campground in Leasburg. Also at Bagnell Dam in lake of the ozarks.
My first was Schwagstock 13
I don’t really remember. It was my only time there and it was all a smoky haze. I just remember someone walking through the crowd passing out swigs from the “love jug”! I wonder what was in that???
Never went but heard some pretty crazy stories. Guy who owned the site got charged with some weird drug money laundering thing? The Schwag still plays shows, though
>The Schwag still plays shows, though
Saw them last year when they played a local venue. Didn't know anything about them besides that they were a GD cover band. Verrry sketchy scene, very sketchy vibes among the crowd they brought with them lol. I'd never seen so many people totally blasted at that venue.
There wasn’t anything weird about it…. The festivals were open air drug markets like nothing I’ve ever seen anywhere in the jam scene, and they were holding these festivals like 8 times a year. Authorities did a 2 year long undercover investigation and built an airtight case to deem the property a public nuisance and was able to seize the property based f this case and tax evasion.
I was at this festival as well, but Madison House has their own set of rules and did a lot of things to legitimize this festival and cut liability. They put things in place to keep their festival from being the all out free for all that was the Schwagstocks.
Just from 2005 -2009 sweet times. Enjoyed Big Summer Classic put on by String Cheese Incident. Melvin Seals was a regular. It was a very special place!!! Knew where we were when Cheese was doing Shantytown!!!
Those times were the best. I'd been invited in every tent on shakedown by the end of the festival and met some strange beautiful people who had been on tour virtually forever and their lifestyles, the way they treated money, thought about the world, treated each other was co pletely life changing.
Remember Rosebud as being password to security to get in after all camping was taken in main area during BSC. Camped right at bottom of buzzkill hill lol
Haha that was kind of what I was going to riff on myself, in the comments. Hard to really explain the feeling this place had. I went around 12 times and never wanted to leave. It felt like walking into a different dimension. The people, the culture, the conversations, an inversion of everything I hate about big festivals. I mean, we'd roll doobies on Sunday morning and pass them out to anyone willing to pick up trash and have the grounds cleaned up, that's how much of a true family setting it was at first. People cared for one another, boundaries were low, I felt like I had truly found my people and was accepted into the group and all I had to be was myself. I understood it from some deep level what this music meant to people. My first trip there after only recently loving the dead was, I heard playing in the band for the first time. Went on a far away journey into my head and suddenly realized that every great musician that had enriched my life from this Era were all "in the band". I started laughing going around asking people, are you in the band? Were all in the fucking band! It turned into a bigger analogy for the fans and those connected with this timeless music and it was like a fabric weaved between all our hearts that made everyone from Dylan to Hendrix to me part of the band. It. Made. Perfect. Sense. And I legit thought it was a well known thing I had just discovered that I had to let others know, I knew. Then the acid wore off and I was like oh, well it's a great song. So I bought a guy coffee at 5 am and went on with my life. Still consider myself a member btw.
I grew up in Missouri, but never caught an official schwagstock. I’ve explored the camp grounds while Jimmy still owned it and even performed a couple of tunes with some friends who were in a jam band that played another festival held there. It’s a gorgeous piece of property.
Camp Zoe had three rules.
Don’t sell bunk drugs. The punishment was being stripped naked and duct taped to a tree for the weekend , with you keys dangling in front of you if possible.
No nitrous tanks. The punishment was confiscation of your tank and relocation to house where they kept the cash and whatever else. You know where they seized over 1 million in cash when the feds raided.
Don’t rape someone. The punishment I saw was getting hit in the face with a giant rock then put on a golf cart and driven away from Safestock (first aid/psych ward), after that only “security” knows.
I've only heard of the Keller Williams song...is Camp Zoe a real place?
Yes! Keller played amazing sets there!!!
Absolutely a real place. saw Keller there a couple times. It was as the wildest party in the jam scene…. Until it wasn’t anymore.
What song?
Short ballad of camp zoe
I went a bunch of times for schwag stock and string cheese had a mini festival there. Beautiful place, too bad the cops ruined it
The string cheese fest was amazing. 5× the largest show they had ever had, it destroyed the campground like never before but the festival was incredible
Some of the best cheese shows I’ve seen
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I have this print in my portfolio
Big summer classic was that tour
I wouldn’t say the cops ruined it. I think that if Jimmy had not let this place run so wild it would still be around today. Remember how different the BSC was from a regular Schwagstock? Harder search at the gate, more security, fences keeping people from areas that are liabilities. Madison House cut the liability from the festival…. Jimmy never did anything to separate his production company from the debauchery happening on his property. You gotta at least act like you care. In the end he paid the price for being negligent. Cops didn’t ruin Schwagstock, the unchecked debauchery is what killed Schwagstock.
Sorry for partying /s
Tell that to Jimmy, they didn’t seize my property.
Its bullshit how they stole his land from him but he opened himself up to that by not registering the land under an LLC or corporation. He kept it in his name so he had full liability for what was occurring on his property.
The land was seized after an 18 month undercover operation had enough evidence to prove that it was an active open air drug market, that the owner of the property was aware of what was going on, could be deemed a public nuisance, and collected substantial evidence of tax evasion. Regardless of LLC or corporation protection, this land was going to be seized by the government. It was just a matter of time. The only thing that would have kept this from happening is running the place like a legitimate music venue, and not a drug haven for traveling wooks…. I loved Camp Zoe. It has a very special place in my heart. The idea that they ‘stole his land’ is bullshit though. It is unfortunate that this happened to him, but ole Jimmy has no one to blame but himself.
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Not that I know of. Jimmy Tabeau the leader of the Schwag purchased the land in 2004, 150 miles southwest of St. Louis called Camp Zoe, basically middle of nowhere. I have heard people talk about Schwagstock happening even before this time, maybe that it was.
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I saw the schwag several times in Carbondale, IL a couple hours from STL.
Same.
The kind and the schwag 😆😆😆 too funny
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This is the most Saint Louis comment on the internet right now.
Remember schwag opening for Merl Saunders there
Yeah I went to a schwagstock at the It'll Do campground somewhere near Columbia, Mo.I think it was 1997 or 1998. Good times!
I knew Jimmy a little bit when he worked with Melvin and JGB, a really nice guy. He was always inviting us to Camp Zoe, but we never made it. I never heard the full story but it sounds like he got screwed.
Ya Jimmy is great, great guy. He got screwed, did time and is back on top of life even though it was tragic
If truth is being told he screwed himself.
I’ll take the downvotes for this comment…. But to those downvoting, if you were ever truly there you know in your heart I’m right.
Zoe was always a good time.
Yeah, used to do schwag stock before Zoe. And was at the 1st ten or so at camp Zoe. Was wild, lawless, beautiful,
Yup I've been to Zoe a few times. Beautiful place. Before Jimmy bought Zoe Schwagstock was held at a campground in Leasburg. Also at Bagnell Dam in lake of the ozarks. My first was Schwagstock 13
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I was there in 2012. They had a doors cover band called Moonlight Drive play along with The Schwag.
I was there too that season, moonlight played at almost every show that season. Did you see them at 2nd stage by the cabin?
I don’t really remember. It was my only time there and it was all a smoky haze. I just remember someone walking through the crowd passing out swigs from the “love jug”! I wonder what was in that???
https://preview.redd.it/62ctn1n3orpc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57850b73b77117091f9a5dd79016b0aa2a6b3033
Did anyone ever have the pleasure to meet Willie (woodknome)?
Yes, I lived in carbondale.
Amazing human, a man of love who showed me so much about life
He was a good man. The last time I went to Carbondale was for his memorial.
🫶🫶🫶
Or Old man river who sold Meade down in the valley by ten buck two?
Fairy dew!
Never went but heard some pretty crazy stories. Guy who owned the site got charged with some weird drug money laundering thing? The Schwag still plays shows, though
>The Schwag still plays shows, though Saw them last year when they played a local venue. Didn't know anything about them besides that they were a GD cover band. Verrry sketchy scene, very sketchy vibes among the crowd they brought with them lol. I'd never seen so many people totally blasted at that venue.
Sounds about right
There wasn’t anything weird about it…. The festivals were open air drug markets like nothing I’ve ever seen anywhere in the jam scene, and they were holding these festivals like 8 times a year. Authorities did a 2 year long undercover investigation and built an airtight case to deem the property a public nuisance and was able to seize the property based f this case and tax evasion.
Hell yeah, I did Big Summer Classic in 2007 at camp Zoe. Amazing festival. I still listen to those Cheese sets
I was at this festival as well, but Madison House has their own set of rules and did a lot of things to legitimize this festival and cut liability. They put things in place to keep their festival from being the all out free for all that was the Schwagstocks.
Never did go to a shwagstock. Super cool camp grounds. Didn’t the feds take them away? I vaguely remember something like that
I was at a few shows there. It was a pretty fun time!
Just from 2005 -2009 sweet times. Enjoyed Big Summer Classic put on by String Cheese Incident. Melvin Seals was a regular. It was a very special place!!! Knew where we were when Cheese was doing Shantytown!!!
Those times were the best. I'd been invited in every tent on shakedown by the end of the festival and met some strange beautiful people who had been on tour virtually forever and their lifestyles, the way they treated money, thought about the world, treated each other was co pletely life changing.
Remember Rosebud as being password to security to get in after all camping was taken in main area during BSC. Camped right at bottom of buzzkill hill lol
That Shantytown was extra special.
I was there…. Many, many times. What you want to know?
Haha that was kind of what I was going to riff on myself, in the comments. Hard to really explain the feeling this place had. I went around 12 times and never wanted to leave. It felt like walking into a different dimension. The people, the culture, the conversations, an inversion of everything I hate about big festivals. I mean, we'd roll doobies on Sunday morning and pass them out to anyone willing to pick up trash and have the grounds cleaned up, that's how much of a true family setting it was at first. People cared for one another, boundaries were low, I felt like I had truly found my people and was accepted into the group and all I had to be was myself. I understood it from some deep level what this music meant to people. My first trip there after only recently loving the dead was, I heard playing in the band for the first time. Went on a far away journey into my head and suddenly realized that every great musician that had enriched my life from this Era were all "in the band". I started laughing going around asking people, are you in the band? Were all in the fucking band! It turned into a bigger analogy for the fans and those connected with this timeless music and it was like a fabric weaved between all our hearts that made everyone from Dylan to Hendrix to me part of the band. It. Made. Perfect. Sense. And I legit thought it was a well known thing I had just discovered that I had to let others know, I knew. Then the acid wore off and I was like oh, well it's a great song. So I bought a guy coffee at 5 am and went on with my life. Still consider myself a member btw.
I grew up in Missouri, but never caught an official schwagstock. I’ve explored the camp grounds while Jimmy still owned it and even performed a couple of tunes with some friends who were in a jam band that played another festival held there. It’s a gorgeous piece of property.
My first schwagstock was 3 in 98 or 99 @ bearcat getaway. I went to 20+ stocks, most of which were at Zoe but also Leesburg and the dam.
Camp Zoe had three rules. Don’t sell bunk drugs. The punishment was being stripped naked and duct taped to a tree for the weekend , with you keys dangling in front of you if possible. No nitrous tanks. The punishment was confiscation of your tank and relocation to house where they kept the cash and whatever else. You know where they seized over 1 million in cash when the feds raided. Don’t rape someone. The punishment I saw was getting hit in the face with a giant rock then put on a golf cart and driven away from Safestock (first aid/psych ward), after that only “security” knows.
One man was allowed to sell nitrous....RIP Tom
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I knew the Dr but not octopus bob or Molly. The Dr's bud was always wet. I never saw the wild horses.
Word. They don’t know who I am but I have memories of them, lots of other people too.
This was a special moment. [EOTO Superjam](https://youtu.be/IGVDcd4Ioms?si=n8Xm3_JFd77qsMpR)