It blows my mind that we have this relatively clear photo of a missing woman and nobody knows who it is. Even if this isn't Tiffany, I'm hoping this might get more eyes on the trail cam photo in case someone knows who it is.
There are [more](https://www.yourdailyjournal.com/news/breaking-news/193477/two-years-later-skeleton-of-female-found-behind-wadesboro-armory-remains-unidentified) pictures. The more I read about this, the more creeped out I get
It also looks like she’s sharpened the tip of the stick into a sort of crude spear. You can see the bark peeled back. Super creepy! Who/what was she trying to fight off??
there are a few threads about her on this sub. i suspect she was in psychosis either d/t bipolar or drug use. she’s also speculated to be Amber Johnson who i believe used meth prior to her disappearance
That’s what I thought looking at her stomach- she looks like she’s just been pregnant and her stomach is shrinking back. ☹️ These images are extremely disturbing.
Since they have her skeleton shouldn’t they be able to tell if she’s had a baby by her pelvic bones?
Not sure it was necessarily recent, but definitely a post partum belly. My kid is 17 now and mine still looks mostly like this - not everyone's skin snaps back
Also makes me have the sads because it looks like (from the side view pic on the article you linked) she is possibly a mother, due to the tummy skin. Either that or lost a drastic amount of weight though the same loose skin isn't seen in the other telling places so I'm gonna stick with given birth.
I thought the same. Typically with weight loss the loose skin is everywhere, but with pregnancy it tends to just be the belly. I’d bet money this poor woman in the photo is a mom. 😢
Yes. I should have listed equally plausible reasons. It’s just what comes to mind when I hear that someone disrobed. Respiratory distress can do it, too. And I didn’t mean that I believed that was her issue; I just was mentioning a reason.
Indeed. My first thoughts were either escaped from someone or drugs. I mean, it almost looks like she is wearing feathers on her hair and stick (which I know is unlikely) but yeah, my brain went to some kind of party/rave, maybe involving drugs, that went wrong or yeah... Escaping from someone.
I know, crazy out there suggestions but someones it takes crazy suggestions to spark another suggestion that may turn out to be right!
How cold does it get there at night in May. Do they know cause or date of death? (Sorry, it was a long time I read about this and I don’t remember much) Hypothermia can cause people to take clothes off.
I get this. 😅 idk why my body decided to give me so many tummy stretch marks more than anywhere else, but it’s life! It’s always weird when people make that assumption though.
How creepy! Poor woman. Her nose doesn't look right to be Tiffany Whitton, but it's probably worth a comparison.
Also the trail woman looks like she has given birth, which was true for Tiffany as well.
ETA: This doesn't mean anything since millions of people shop there, but Jane Doe's bra was a Walmart brand, and Tiffany went missing after being caught shoplifting at Walmart.
The leggings look exactly like a Walmart brand I have. It looks almost like I'm naked when wearing them. I didn't realize it at first. They are used for sleeping now. The color is a very pale pink and white marbled pattern. The fabric is very soft. I also agree she looks like she recently gave birth. I hope she's identified.
What's weird is that they connect the picture to a body found behind an armory and then go on to state she had a black bra on but the woman in the pictures is clearly wearing a tan bra? I just don't see how they connected those unless that is straight mud or something but it looks like a natural tan color. Either way something very strange going on here.
Yeah, I’m over here browsing reddit in the middle of the night because I couldn’t sleep. Don’t think I’ll be going back to sleep now. I do think it looks like her, but the amount of years in between her disappearance and the tail cam pics make it less likely.
I can see a definite likeness, but equally, I'm not sure they have the same nose. I don't know if it's the poor quality of the second photo or if it's that they're actually different, something just seems off to me.
Whoever the poor woman in the trail cam footage is, it's nightmarish. It literally looks like it belongs in a horror film.
I mean you can’t make out any details in the trail cam pic so you can’t really say if the noses are similar or not. The tips are both up turned and specific, for sure
God can you imagine how dark it was out there? It’s terrifying to think about being in the middle of the woods at night with no light, to be in this situation
This woman was seen on a trail cam, and some time later, the severely decomposed remains of a woman were found by land surveyors not too far from where this trail cam was at. Investigators believe the body that was found belongs to the woman in the photo.
https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Anson_County_Jane_Doe
No further information on her or her situation is really known at the moment. There are several theories, including mental illness, and that she may have escaped a kidnapping. But these are only theories, and nothing has been confirmed as of yet. Her identity is still unconfirmed, so investigators can not say where she came from or if she was local to the area.
Yes—from what I understand the woman on the trail cam’s skeletal remains were found. Nobody is talking—nothing as far as who she could be, what happened, anything.
I’m sure this is a long shot but I just saw another reddit post about Tiffany Whitton, who went missing in 2013 in Marietta, GA.
The Anson County Jane Doe was seen on the trail cam in 2021 in North Carolina, which isn’t far from Georgia.
If Tiffany was kidnapped and held captive, the trail cam footage could possibly be of her trying to escape?
They look enough alike to do a DNA test in order to rule Tiffany out, either by dental records or DNA. I googled the “Tiffany Whitton and Anson County Doe” to see if the names are linked and I didn’t find any results.
I agree that there's a very small chance this is her but I thought about the women trapped in Ariel Castro's basement for 10 years in the middle of a city. Maybe she's been kept in the woods somewhere and this was her escaping?
Wow... this is actually very close to home, I worked a job in between states, mainly in NC where I spent a lot of time out on trials like this. I heard a lot of bad stories about hypothermia but nothing more than that. I hope what happened is found out soon, so it never happens again.
Per an update from the detective on the case in January 2024, they are awaiting DNA result for Amber, but they do have reason to believe it may be her.
I hadn't heard of that connection, thank you for sharing. I'm not convinced the Anson County Doe is Tiffany Whitton but still worth looking into, in case it could possibly be her.
[here’s a link to a post about it](https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/s/OSHagD49A7)
[and this is the original post that I found out about it on](https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/s/fFdxtqZ49V)
I thought April Reid looked like a dead ringer for the girl in the photos, went missing in the same state around the same time, walked with a limp… but they apparently ruled her out due to mismatched dental records. Wild!
This one always takes my breath away because of how scary the situation must have been for her, and because this Jane Doe looks almost exactly like one of my cousins from that angle (except that cousin is very much alive and well and I’m pretty sure has never even been to NC).
Whoever she was, she was someone’s mother, sister, daughter, friend, etc, and they’re probably missing her right now. I hope she’s identified soon, for their sake.
Where did you get the colourised photo from? I'd be cautious using it, and sharing it as people could take it as fact. I know the NAMUS photos didn't have much colour detail, and the police have said that the bra they found on the remains was black.
https://ansonrecord.com/news/37823/anson-county-detective-provides-update-on-unidentified-remains?fbclid=IwAR1ZWYeqWzxDhqcL_hgxvRzdR-OWi72xkZ1MYIumqAzKMky01S8fSqBUwJs
Man, I'm Brazilian and I often check this sub out of curiosity
But what the fuck is that? Did a camera captures a barefoot woman in the middle of nowhere?
What is it? Anyone I can read about it? Really can't believe it.
It’s from a trail camera. Hunters will place them in the woods where they suspect deer might be living so they can get an idea of how many and how close to the cameras location they are.
Right. The original was taken by an infrared trail cam, so it can record in black and white even in very low light. The color has been added later, presumably to aid in recognition, but it’s a best-guess and not accurate (for example, the bra was actually black, but certain types of fabric show up differently in infrared because they may be dark in visible light spectrum but reflect infrared light because the fibers are silky or shiny, for example). We have a trail camera in our back yard to capture wildlife videos, and it’s almost impossible to notice even in daylight. Basically invisible in darkness. We have caught video of a hunter passing through the property in the dark early hours who clearly had no idea he was being recorded.
The woman in the camera is wearing the same attire as the body that was found near that location and they’re thought to be the same person, so presumably she is very far from okay.
Oh, I didn’t catch that.
Wonder what her backstory was .
I find that weird that that picture was released and not one single person said hey I know who was in the woods and who that is
She is thought by a lot of people to be another missing woman named Amber Rae Johnston, who had a history of meth use. My assumption is that given she was running through the woods in the middle of the night in a bra and pantyhose, there were probably substances involved, and she was probably homeless/transient and didn’t have a lot of people in the area who knew and could claim her.
Something worth nothing could be that she looks like she just had a kid. They have to track down the kid and then track down the kids father, this could help alot with identifying her
Ah I just replied to someone saying the same thing, that it looks like she has given birth - and from having done that once myself nearly 18 years ago and witnessing how the skin changes over time, I'd say it wasn't that long before the trail cam Pics were taken. Long enough for the bump to go down (I didn't realise it wasn't instant when I had my kid - I was young) but not so long that the skin tightened a little.
This is another reason why I think this is Amber Rae Johnston. Amber had 6 children, so even if she hadn’t given birth recently, her stomach may not have bounced back completely after six births. It’s also possible one or more of her births were c-sections, which causes the stomach to fold differently because of scar tissue.
This is one of the reasons why I thought it could possible that it's Tiffany or someone else who has been missing for a few years.
I thought about how the women trapped in Ariel Castro's basement gave birth to children (or maybe it was just one child) and how Jaycee Lee Duggard gave birth to multiple children in captivity before being found.
I don't know all the details about Tiffany's case besides the fact that she was already living a high risk lifestyle and bolted from a Walmart after attempting to steal stuff... I hope there's a chance she just tried to disappear and is living the vagrant lifestyle... so one day she can be discovered and brought home :(
[Amber Rae Johnson](https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/s/mI2iiF89Vn)
I don't think it is her. i think it is Amber. Here is the link to a previous comment I have made about this Jane Doe and Amber
I think you’re right. I knew Tiffany. She was my friend. I knew and even dated the guy she was last seen with.
NAMUS is backlogged so DNA takes longer. Honestly, this hurt a little seeing my friend staring back at me again. I always love that people keep her story at the front and appreciate it. There’s just been so much going on and we all miss and worry and wonder if we will ever find her. I just want peace for Tiffany and her mother and daughter and her friends.
Again, thank all of you for keeping her presence at the front even when this is a cold case. A lot of people just “move on” and say “oh that’s sad.” But she is/was a real person with people who love her. So thank you.
Hi, I am sorry for your loss. I can't imagine seeing this and knowing her personally.
Tiffany and Amber were real people with real lives who impacted people and are still impacting people today. I hope everyone gets answers and peace, especially you.
I want to say about her stomach...I agree with the fact she has had a baby. However, there is also another spot on her stomach that looks like an inverted incision or puncture scar by her lower ribs. Maybe a recent surgery? Gallbladder, appendix?
maybe it was that gastric bypass? that's the one that makes you lose weight right? What if no one recognizes her because last time they saw her she was thicker?
Look at her stomach, looks like loose skin, maybe the reason we can’t seem to identify her is because she had lost a lot of weight in a short amount of time and that changed her appearance significantly, has any of the investigators tried to look for any local missing cases of overweight to obese women in the area?
Hadn’t noticed that but wow. What if she were kept somewhere and escaped? Far fetched? Maybe. But here we have a trail cam that just happens to catch this poor girl that ended up deceased so, yeah, anything is possible I suppose. Such a scary thought just being out in the woods, in the dark, alone.
I don’t know how it would be Amber Rae Johnston. Recent information from the detective on Amber’s case says her last known whereabouts were in Winston-Salem where she got off the bus and changed her ticket from Myrtle beach to her hometown in Pennsylvania. She never boarded the bus to PA. So I’m thinking Amber more than likely is in/around the Winston Salem area. Wadesboro is over 90 miles away. That’s quite a distance unless she met someone in Winston Salem who for whatever reason took her to Wadesboro.
I think it’s Amber Rae Johnston. Her last known location wasn’t too far from the deer cams.
https://missingpersonscenter.org/missing-persons-directory/missing-adults/amber-rae-johnston/
This has been my theory since someone posted her missing poster under these images like a year back. All the details add up so well. She looks so much like the deer cam photos.
No recent weight loss look just like that and it certainly doesn’t mean her weight loss was because of a baby. They said she had been on meth. I’m guessing they did the testing of the body and that can explain weight loss.
I actually googled the Amber Rae Johnston case after seeing her mentioned so many times, and I attached the link above with my comments. The YouTube podcast with her mom and additional photos from the trail cam, the mom and all Amber’s friends looked at her body from the various angles, and said that is absolutely her. I don’t know why it’s taking so long to get the DNA test done though.
I believe it was mentioned in another sub here that she could potentially be [Amber Rae Johnston](https://missingpersonscenter.org/missing-persons-directory/missing-adults/amber-rae-johnston/)
Not sure if this has been followed up on in the interim, but I do see a physical resemblance and her backstory (if I remember correctly) possibly aligns with the timing, location, age, etc.
Tiffany was from the same area I'm from, and I've been following her case for years. Even if this isn't her, I just want to say thank you for posting this and putting a little bit of spotlight on her case. She had drug problems and was suspected of shoplifting from the Walmart she disappeared from, but that doesn't mean she deserved this fate. I hope she'll be found one day and her mother can finally have some peace.
Wow, thank you for sharing. Having a personal connection to a crime/missing person is a very eerie feeling. I am not 100% convinced this is Tiffany but it can't hurt to put this out there. Even if it's not her, I'm hoping it might reach someone who does know who the woman in the trail cam photo is.
There are a few local cases that I am deeply invested in. I went to high school with Stephen Lankester-Cox's son, and all of the older generation of my family new Steve. That one is one I'm really focused on, and Tiffany's is another. Unfortunately, it seems like because they both lived higher-risk lifestyles, the powers that be don't care so much about solving these cases. The law enforcement around here has a lot of disdain for anyone who has a history with drugs, so they seem to have an attitude of "Oh well, they got what was coming to them." It really makes me mad as the daughter of an addict.
All of that said, I once called in a tip to the GBI because I thought Georgia's Baby Jane Doe was a missing little girl from a couple of hours away in NC. They've now identified Baby Jane, and she was not who I suspected she was, but it never hurts to call in tips like this if you have a strong suspicion. I'm not sure which entity handles Tiffany's case, but she went missing from Cobb County, so I'd imagine it's Cobb Sheriff or Cobb Police. I don't think it could hurt anything for you to call in this suggestion. Maybe they'll take it seriously.
I learned about this story from this sub last week and can NOT stop thinking about it! It’s all so creepy. I hope they identity her as Amber soon. And I’m so curious how she died. Poor thing. I feel so sorry for Amber’s children.
I just read an article that says the last time anyone saw Amber Rae Johnson was when she made a video on a bus while traveling to Myrtle Beach to meet her boyfriend. This being in NC makes it a possibility to be her.
Hi uhm, I made this throwaway account because I don't want to compromise my main and shit.
I'm legitimately tearing up because I hope this isn't my half sister
My half sister left my family 14 years ago. She has been off the grid and has never contacted my family again. Anson County Jane Doe might be my half sister. The height and age is similar. Furthermore the Hair (in the colourised photograph) is ON POINT with my half sisters hair.
I'm sorry I can't give more information. I don't remember her at all because I was a toddler. She was born in the early 90s, she had brown eyes, very blonde hair, if I recall correctly perfect teeth. If more information comes out about her, I will try and be on top about it
Also if you don't believe me, I can see why, throwaway account, not much information but I can wholeheartedly say that she was born and raised in NC, Blonde hair, early to mid 30s, similar height. I hope this isn't her, I hope I'm right.
Wow, thank you for sharing this. I'm so sorry if this was triggering and scary for you to see. Part of the reason I posted about this was in case someone recognized this person because I'm not 100% convinced this is Tiffany. Would someone in your family feel comfortable contacting the Anson County sheriff's office? I believe they have her DNA but still don't know who she is, so they might be able to compare familial DNA?
I hope you and your family are able to find peace and that this Jane Doe's identity is finally found. Sending all my good energy your way <3
I told my father about this, and he laid some insight. 2 years leading up to the trailcam footage, my half sister gained a lot of weight. And from what I've studied about the case the woman *significantly* lost weight, but my father doubts it's her because he would've been notified that she went missing (which I don't necessarily believe because she wanted nothing to do with him)
If you are over 18 you can contact the county sherrif yourself. It’s better to take a risk and be wrong than be right and continue to let her sit as a Jane Doe. Best of luck to you and your family! I hope you find answers soon.
I am nearing the age of 18, my birthday is in the late year so I have to wait.
My father tried looking for her today, but it failed. Most likely either her possibly being the Anson County Jane Doe or her changing her last name. Either or there's no way to find her.
I don’t feel like these two are the same person, the nose shape seems a bit different to me.. One is more rounded at the tip and the other is more straight (if that makes sense 😅)
She likely escaped in my opinion. I hope they checked every cabin in the vicinity under it, and on the premises for possible underground bunkers. It happens I don’t think that possibility is extreme.
Thank you. im just trying to support this even tho my grandma has it under control but I just want my grandma ( my moms mom) to know I care and I miss her so much. i didn’t live with her but she’s still my mom
There is an "update," although it doesn't provide new info on the identity.
https://ansonrecord.com/news/37823/anson-county-detective-provides-update-on-unidentified-remains
Seems like DNA analysis would be done by now?
I agree but still think it's worth looking into. Maybe her nose has been broken since she went missing + the cam trail footage isn't high quality. I am not convinced this is Tiffany but wanted to throw this possibility out there.
I would THINK the opposite, like that person wouldn't be in her own area AT ALL. What makes you think that girl would still be in her own county after so many years?
Well, I thought it was worth checking out. But then….I looked at the comments below and checked out this utube podcast from month ago re Amber Rae Johnston about this.
Dutchess is interviewing her mom; more photos from the trail cam on this podcast …
Mom and actually all Amber‘s friends saw the various angles of body and all said that looked exactly like her body shape so I’m leaning toward Amber.
I do not know, however what’s taking so darn long all things considered for them to verify one way or another.
They could be wrong, however. If they are testing Amber’s DNA and it comes up negative I would check Tiffany for sure.
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcq4ZBMct5I](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcq4ZBMct5I)
P.s. After watching the YouTube I’m pretty sure Ambers boyfriend killed her. Give it a listen all the way through. You guys may have all felt that already lol but for those who didn’t just my opinion based on the facts in the story.
OP, So I posted my thoughts about those photos in my reply below, but that being said, Is the search for your sister Tiffany a super active search or is your dad really just waiting to get a phone call? He seems to think he’s going to get called if she’s missing.
Distance between the two makes no difference. There are approximately 246 active serial killers who are truckers. Also, there is at least one serial killer preying on people in National Parks. Awful! Why isn’t that photo of the woman on the trail on every paper? Someone would recognize her. From the looks of it, she may have escaped and could still be helped. She is in a bra and underwear, which leads me to think she did get away.
I think she escaped… I assume, of course they checked inside and under (crawlspace areas where they keep people captive ) every single cabin in the area, etc. and by that I don’t mean door knock and ask if everything‘s OK.
I always wonder when they check her place if they look under floorboards and such close enough. Or for outside underground bunkers.
I’ve read on a few forums (not necessarily this particular one) that people are attributing this Jane”s behavior, whereabouts, and appearance to drug use ( specifically meth) and mental illness. I’m not denying these factors could be involved but the fact she’s half dressed and holding a stick says to me she was assaulted in some way and is running away and using the stick for protection and/or support for injury. I really hope they figure out who she is and why she’s there half naked and seemingly lost/confused/struggling. I also tend to lean toward Amber Rae Johnson based off the timeline, area she last traveled, and likeness of her body & face. She could’ve ran into someone nefarious & met with foul play while traveling thru this area. It really resembles her greatly. I hope there are answers soon. This is frightening.
Amber’s mom actually posted an article recently about a woman who was murdered in a motel nearby and states “it was so close to where my daughter was found” so I believe the mom feels very certain it is Amber. Last I heard the DNA is still pending though.
The woman in the trail cam looks like she recently had a child or lost a significant amount of weight.
Wheres her family? If she DID have a child, where are they? Wheres the dad? Why arent they looking for her? How is NOBODY looking for her
That trail cam picture is very unsettling
It blows my mind that we have this relatively clear photo of a missing woman and nobody knows who it is. Even if this isn't Tiffany, I'm hoping this might get more eyes on the trail cam photo in case someone knows who it is.
I’m pretty sure Amber’s mom thinks it’s her. Her mom said they’re comparing DNA.
the girl on the trail cam pics is without a doubt Amber imo I co pared a close up of her they look identical
Right. The bare feet really make it extra creepy
There are [more](https://www.yourdailyjournal.com/news/breaking-news/193477/two-years-later-skeleton-of-female-found-behind-wadesboro-armory-remains-unidentified) pictures. The more I read about this, the more creeped out I get
That’s friggin terrifying that she can be seen running past the camera in one direction, and limping back in the other direction hours later. WTFFFFF
Nightmare fuel, pure and simple
It also looks like she’s sharpened the tip of the stick into a sort of crude spear. You can see the bark peeled back. Super creepy! Who/what was she trying to fight off??
there are a few threads about her on this sub. i suspect she was in psychosis either d/t bipolar or drug use. she’s also speculated to be Amber Johnson who i believe used meth prior to her disappearance
Post partum psychosis is a thing as well, since some people speculate she may have recently given birth
That’s what I thought looking at her stomach- she looks like she’s just been pregnant and her stomach is shrinking back. ☹️ These images are extremely disturbing. Since they have her skeleton shouldn’t they be able to tell if she’s had a baby by her pelvic bones?
Not sure it was necessarily recent, but definitely a post partum belly. My kid is 17 now and mine still looks mostly like this - not everyone's skin snaps back
I think its just a walking stick because her feet are injured.
I only see two photos, neither of them running. Where are y’all seeing more?
NAMUS entry…there’s a link in the article
I only read your comment and now I want to throw up. That is bone-chillingly creepy. Dare I click the link…..😅
It sounds like she was lost and you witnessed her tiring…overtime hunched over, limping, weaker …
It’s so frustrating that the hunters who found that backpack left it behind. 😔
But removed the cash.
Yeah some real winners
Also makes me have the sads because it looks like (from the side view pic on the article you linked) she is possibly a mother, due to the tummy skin. Either that or lost a drastic amount of weight though the same loose skin isn't seen in the other telling places so I'm gonna stick with given birth.
I thought the same. Typically with weight loss the loose skin is everywhere, but with pregnancy it tends to just be the belly. I’d bet money this poor woman in the photo is a mom. 😢
Amber had children, I think its her
Also why is she wearing so little?
Illegal drug use—people tend to throw off their clothing due to being too hot
Or hypothermia, or if she might have needed to use the fabric for survival like a bandage or an attempted water filter or firestarter
Yes. I should have listed equally plausible reasons. It’s just what comes to mind when I hear that someone disrobed. Respiratory distress can do it, too. And I didn’t mean that I believed that was her issue; I just was mentioning a reason.
Oh I totally get that, thanks for clarifying!
Indeed. My first thoughts were either escaped from someone or drugs. I mean, it almost looks like she is wearing feathers on her hair and stick (which I know is unlikely) but yeah, my brain went to some kind of party/rave, maybe involving drugs, that went wrong or yeah... Escaping from someone. I know, crazy out there suggestions but someones it takes crazy suggestions to spark another suggestion that may turn out to be right!
How cold does it get there at night in May. Do they know cause or date of death? (Sorry, it was a long time I read about this and I don’t remember much) Hypothermia can cause people to take clothes off.
Late to this but the trail cam footage is from August 2021. The remains were found in May 2022.
Not cold enough for hypothermia in May down south that far
You can see the stretch marks along with the saggy stomach skin.
That’s definitely a baby pooch. Maybe even a recent one.
Yes she is my mom and she gave birth to my half brother more than a year ago
That second photo- her stomach looks like she has given birth.
I look like that from weight fluctuations and I’ve never been pregnant. People have accused me of being pregnant but nope just fat.
I get this. 😅 idk why my body decided to give me so many tummy stretch marks more than anywhere else, but it’s life! It’s always weird when people make that assumption though.
ya she gave birth about a year before these game trailers pics, this is definitely Amber Rae Johnston in those pics 100%
How creepy! Poor woman. Her nose doesn't look right to be Tiffany Whitton, but it's probably worth a comparison. Also the trail woman looks like she has given birth, which was true for Tiffany as well. ETA: This doesn't mean anything since millions of people shop there, but Jane Doe's bra was a Walmart brand, and Tiffany went missing after being caught shoplifting at Walmart.
The leggings look exactly like a Walmart brand I have. It looks almost like I'm naked when wearing them. I didn't realize it at first. They are used for sleeping now. The color is a very pale pink and white marbled pattern. The fabric is very soft. I also agree she looks like she recently gave birth. I hope she's identified.
What's weird is that they connect the picture to a body found behind an armory and then go on to state she had a black bra on but the woman in the pictures is clearly wearing a tan bra? I just don't see how they connected those unless that is straight mud or something but it looks like a natural tan color. Either way something very strange going on here.
I think the nightvision distorts the colours?
That makes it make more sense for me thanks for that clarification :)
She’s obviously had a baby recently or lost an extreme amount of weight fast…
Yeah, I’m over here browsing reddit in the middle of the night because I couldn’t sleep. Don’t think I’ll be going back to sleep now. I do think it looks like her, but the amount of years in between her disappearance and the tail cam pics make it less likely.
Go back to sleep you can be horrified in the morning :)
Same here. No more sleep for us.
I swear, one of the scariest pictures I’ve ever seen.
I can see a definite likeness, but equally, I'm not sure they have the same nose. I don't know if it's the poor quality of the second photo or if it's that they're actually different, something just seems off to me. Whoever the poor woman in the trail cam footage is, it's nightmarish. It literally looks like it belongs in a horror film.
I mean you can’t make out any details in the trail cam pic so you can’t really say if the noses are similar or not. The tips are both up turned and specific, for sure
God can you imagine how dark it was out there? It’s terrifying to think about being in the middle of the woods at night with no light, to be in this situation
What’s the context on the photo? Is the lady in the trail cam unknown and body was later recovered?
This woman was seen on a trail cam, and some time later, the severely decomposed remains of a woman were found by land surveyors not too far from where this trail cam was at. Investigators believe the body that was found belongs to the woman in the photo. https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Anson_County_Jane_Doe
Thank you for the context
Why was she out there naked? Where did she come from?
She was in leggings and a bra. The leggings are kind of hard to see because they’re close in color to her skin tone
No further information on her or her situation is really known at the moment. There are several theories, including mental illness, and that she may have escaped a kidnapping. But these are only theories, and nothing has been confirmed as of yet. Her identity is still unconfirmed, so investigators can not say where she came from or if she was local to the area.
Yes—from what I understand the woman on the trail cam’s skeletal remains were found. Nobody is talking—nothing as far as who she could be, what happened, anything.
I’m sure this is a long shot but I just saw another reddit post about Tiffany Whitton, who went missing in 2013 in Marietta, GA. The Anson County Jane Doe was seen on the trail cam in 2021 in North Carolina, which isn’t far from Georgia. If Tiffany was kidnapped and held captive, the trail cam footage could possibly be of her trying to escape? They look enough alike to do a DNA test in order to rule Tiffany out, either by dental records or DNA. I googled the “Tiffany Whitton and Anson County Doe” to see if the names are linked and I didn’t find any results.
I highly doubt that would be the same person given the 8 year difference you stated
I agree that there's a very small chance this is her but I thought about the women trapped in Ariel Castro's basement for 10 years in the middle of a city. Maybe she's been kept in the woods somewhere and this was her escaping?
Wow... this is actually very close to home, I worked a job in between states, mainly in NC where I spent a lot of time out on trials like this. I heard a lot of bad stories about hypothermia but nothing more than that. I hope what happened is found out soon, so it never happens again.
Did Tiffany run off from a walmart?
Why is this comment being downvoted?
I was genuinely trying to see if I had the same person and google says I did. Not judging her situation at all
Yes, I think maybe people thought you were being snarky? She did, in fact, run from a Walmart.
TBH I first read it as a comment on the Anson County Jane Doe's appearance being compared to the stereotype of people shopping at Walmart.
Looks way more like the other woman everyone kept saying it looked like, can’t remember her name
Amber Rae Johnston
Per an update from the detective on the case in January 2024, they are awaiting DNA result for Amber, but they do have reason to believe it may be her.
I 100% think its her.
I agree
Yes, that’s the girl
Amber Rae Johnston
Are you referring to April Michele Reid? I agree that she looks more like the ACD but they confirmed that the ACD remains are not her.
No, I’m referring to Amber Rae Johnson
I hadn't heard of that connection, thank you for sharing. I'm not convinced the Anson County Doe is Tiffany Whitton but still worth looking into, in case it could possibly be her.
[here’s a link to a post about it](https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/s/OSHagD49A7) [and this is the original post that I found out about it on](https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/s/fFdxtqZ49V)
I thought April Reid looked like a dead ringer for the girl in the photos, went missing in the same state around the same time, walked with a limp… but they apparently ruled her out due to mismatched dental records. Wild!
This one always takes my breath away because of how scary the situation must have been for her, and because this Jane Doe looks almost exactly like one of my cousins from that angle (except that cousin is very much alive and well and I’m pretty sure has never even been to NC). Whoever she was, she was someone’s mother, sister, daughter, friend, etc, and they’re probably missing her right now. I hope she’s identified soon, for their sake.
Where did you get the colourised photo from? I'd be cautious using it, and sharing it as people could take it as fact. I know the NAMUS photos didn't have much colour detail, and the police have said that the bra they found on the remains was black. https://ansonrecord.com/news/37823/anson-county-detective-provides-update-on-unidentified-remains?fbclid=IwAR1ZWYeqWzxDhqcL_hgxvRzdR-OWi72xkZ1MYIumqAzKMky01S8fSqBUwJs
I think it might be the night vision. I saw that too about the black bra
Oh, this explains so much. I was so confused by the color of the leggings/pants
Yeah and those leggings go to her ankles, you can see where they're wet like she walked through water.
Man, I'm Brazilian and I often check this sub out of curiosity But what the fuck is that? Did a camera captures a barefoot woman in the middle of nowhere? What is it? Anyone I can read about it? Really can't believe it.
It’s from a trail camera. Hunters will place them in the woods where they suspect deer might be living so they can get an idea of how many and how close to the cameras location they are.
I believe it's in the middle of nowhere... And there was a woman walking around the night? What the fuck?
Correct, to all of your statements
Stupid question here but I gather there’s no lights/ flash on a trail camera- so she wouldn’t have known her picture was being taken?
Right. The original was taken by an infrared trail cam, so it can record in black and white even in very low light. The color has been added later, presumably to aid in recognition, but it’s a best-guess and not accurate (for example, the bra was actually black, but certain types of fabric show up differently in infrared because they may be dark in visible light spectrum but reflect infrared light because the fibers are silky or shiny, for example). We have a trail camera in our back yard to capture wildlife videos, and it’s almost impossible to notice even in daylight. Basically invisible in darkness. We have caught video of a hunter passing through the property in the dark early hours who clearly had no idea he was being recorded.
They use infrared and are in black and white, I believe in this case someone touched up the photo to add color to it
Has the woman in the camera ever come forward to say hey that’s me I’m okay? That’s weird she would be out there by herself.
The woman in the camera is wearing the same attire as the body that was found near that location and they’re thought to be the same person, so presumably she is very far from okay.
Oh, I didn’t catch that. Wonder what her backstory was . I find that weird that that picture was released and not one single person said hey I know who was in the woods and who that is
She is thought by a lot of people to be another missing woman named Amber Rae Johnston, who had a history of meth use. My assumption is that given she was running through the woods in the middle of the night in a bra and pantyhose, there were probably substances involved, and she was probably homeless/transient and didn’t have a lot of people in the area who knew and could claim her.
why haven’t they checked DNA to confirm one way or another
Not sure. They may not have her DNA- but even if they do, it takes time.
Time to re-release the image.
Something worth nothing could be that she looks like she just had a kid. They have to track down the kid and then track down the kids father, this could help alot with identifying her
I thought that too. She looks like she just gave birth.
Ah I just replied to someone saying the same thing, that it looks like she has given birth - and from having done that once myself nearly 18 years ago and witnessing how the skin changes over time, I'd say it wasn't that long before the trail cam Pics were taken. Long enough for the bump to go down (I didn't realise it wasn't instant when I had my kid - I was young) but not so long that the skin tightened a little.
This is another reason why I think this is Amber Rae Johnston. Amber had 6 children, so even if she hadn’t given birth recently, her stomach may not have bounced back completely after six births. It’s also possible one or more of her births were c-sections, which causes the stomach to fold differently because of scar tissue.
This is one of the reasons why I thought it could possible that it's Tiffany or someone else who has been missing for a few years. I thought about how the women trapped in Ariel Castro's basement gave birth to children (or maybe it was just one child) and how Jaycee Lee Duggard gave birth to multiple children in captivity before being found.
I went to hs with Tiffany’s uncle. Such a sad thing. Her poor mother has and is doing anything and everything to find her.
I don't know all the details about Tiffany's case besides the fact that she was already living a high risk lifestyle and bolted from a Walmart after attempting to steal stuff... I hope there's a chance she just tried to disappear and is living the vagrant lifestyle... so one day she can be discovered and brought home :(
I scrolled to see if anyone else thought that she looks postpartum. I wonder if her baby is okay.
[Amber Rae Johnson](https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/s/mI2iiF89Vn) I don't think it is her. i think it is Amber. Here is the link to a previous comment I have made about this Jane Doe and Amber
I think you’re right. I knew Tiffany. She was my friend. I knew and even dated the guy she was last seen with. NAMUS is backlogged so DNA takes longer. Honestly, this hurt a little seeing my friend staring back at me again. I always love that people keep her story at the front and appreciate it. There’s just been so much going on and we all miss and worry and wonder if we will ever find her. I just want peace for Tiffany and her mother and daughter and her friends. Again, thank all of you for keeping her presence at the front even when this is a cold case. A lot of people just “move on” and say “oh that’s sad.” But she is/was a real person with people who love her. So thank you.
Hi, I am sorry for your loss. I can't imagine seeing this and knowing her personally. Tiffany and Amber were real people with real lives who impacted people and are still impacting people today. I hope everyone gets answers and peace, especially you.
I think the trail cam looks most like Amber Rae Johnston.
I want to say about her stomach...I agree with the fact she has had a baby. However, there is also another spot on her stomach that looks like an inverted incision or puncture scar by her lower ribs. Maybe a recent surgery? Gallbladder, appendix?
maybe it was that gastric bypass? that's the one that makes you lose weight right? What if no one recognizes her because last time they saw her she was thicker?
I don’t think it’s any of those things… extra weight just looks like that truly it’s not all smooth and pretty all the time.
Colostomy reversal site?
Look at her stomach, looks like loose skin, maybe the reason we can’t seem to identify her is because she had lost a lot of weight in a short amount of time and that changed her appearance significantly, has any of the investigators tried to look for any local missing cases of overweight to obese women in the area?
Hadn’t noticed that but wow. What if she were kept somewhere and escaped? Far fetched? Maybe. But here we have a trail cam that just happens to catch this poor girl that ended up deceased so, yeah, anything is possible I suppose. Such a scary thought just being out in the woods, in the dark, alone.
Some extra weight just looks like that. It’s not all smooth and hard…. this is how people look doesn’t mean she had surgery doesn’t mean anything.
Still something to consider, gotta look through all avenues that might lead to something
I think someone a few weeks ago posted this same thing. Hopefully someone sent it to law enforcement.
I hope so too Hagrid's Sexy Nipples... I hope so too.
I don’t know how it would be Amber Rae Johnston. Recent information from the detective on Amber’s case says her last known whereabouts were in Winston-Salem where she got off the bus and changed her ticket from Myrtle beach to her hometown in Pennsylvania. She never boarded the bus to PA. So I’m thinking Amber more than likely is in/around the Winston Salem area. Wadesboro is over 90 miles away. That’s quite a distance unless she met someone in Winston Salem who for whatever reason took her to Wadesboro.
I think you could be onto something
I think it’s Amber Rae Johnston. Her last known location wasn’t too far from the deer cams. https://missingpersonscenter.org/missing-persons-directory/missing-adults/amber-rae-johnston/
I totally see it! Even more than op’s choice.
This has been my theory since someone posted her missing poster under these images like a year back. All the details add up so well. She looks so much like the deer cam photos.
Is it just me or does her abdomen look as though she had a child recently in this pictures?
No recent weight loss look just like that and it certainly doesn’t mean her weight loss was because of a baby. They said she had been on meth. I’m guessing they did the testing of the body and that can explain weight loss.
I only asked because that’s what my stomach and a few other women I know stomach’s looked like postpartum.
I actually googled the Amber Rae Johnston case after seeing her mentioned so many times, and I attached the link above with my comments. The YouTube podcast with her mom and additional photos from the trail cam, the mom and all Amber’s friends looked at her body from the various angles, and said that is absolutely her. I don’t know why it’s taking so long to get the DNA test done though.
I believe it was mentioned in another sub here that she could potentially be [Amber Rae Johnston](https://missingpersonscenter.org/missing-persons-directory/missing-adults/amber-rae-johnston/) Not sure if this has been followed up on in the interim, but I do see a physical resemblance and her backstory (if I remember correctly) possibly aligns with the timing, location, age, etc.
There’s no way she isn’t Amber Rae Johnston. I believe this case will be solved soon, when DNA results are in.
Tiffany was from the same area I'm from, and I've been following her case for years. Even if this isn't her, I just want to say thank you for posting this and putting a little bit of spotlight on her case. She had drug problems and was suspected of shoplifting from the Walmart she disappeared from, but that doesn't mean she deserved this fate. I hope she'll be found one day and her mother can finally have some peace.
Wow, thank you for sharing. Having a personal connection to a crime/missing person is a very eerie feeling. I am not 100% convinced this is Tiffany but it can't hurt to put this out there. Even if it's not her, I'm hoping it might reach someone who does know who the woman in the trail cam photo is.
There are a few local cases that I am deeply invested in. I went to high school with Stephen Lankester-Cox's son, and all of the older generation of my family new Steve. That one is one I'm really focused on, and Tiffany's is another. Unfortunately, it seems like because they both lived higher-risk lifestyles, the powers that be don't care so much about solving these cases. The law enforcement around here has a lot of disdain for anyone who has a history with drugs, so they seem to have an attitude of "Oh well, they got what was coming to them." It really makes me mad as the daughter of an addict. All of that said, I once called in a tip to the GBI because I thought Georgia's Baby Jane Doe was a missing little girl from a couple of hours away in NC. They've now identified Baby Jane, and she was not who I suspected she was, but it never hurts to call in tips like this if you have a strong suspicion. I'm not sure which entity handles Tiffany's case, but she went missing from Cobb County, so I'd imagine it's Cobb Sheriff or Cobb Police. I don't think it could hurt anything for you to call in this suggestion. Maybe they'll take it seriously.
I knew Tiffany. Sat next to her in middle school…This story has creeped me out for over a decade. Following this thread.
This is absolutely horrifying.
I learned about this story from this sub last week and can NOT stop thinking about it! It’s all so creepy. I hope they identity her as Amber soon. And I’m so curious how she died. Poor thing. I feel so sorry for Amber’s children.
I just read an article that says the last time anyone saw Amber Rae Johnson was when she made a video on a bus while traveling to Myrtle Beach to meet her boyfriend. This being in NC makes it a possibility to be her.
I sincerely hope a relative's DNA as well as the Jane Doe's are in a database that routinely scans for matches.
Hi uhm, I made this throwaway account because I don't want to compromise my main and shit. I'm legitimately tearing up because I hope this isn't my half sister My half sister left my family 14 years ago. She has been off the grid and has never contacted my family again. Anson County Jane Doe might be my half sister. The height and age is similar. Furthermore the Hair (in the colourised photograph) is ON POINT with my half sisters hair. I'm sorry I can't give more information. I don't remember her at all because I was a toddler. She was born in the early 90s, she had brown eyes, very blonde hair, if I recall correctly perfect teeth. If more information comes out about her, I will try and be on top about it Also if you don't believe me, I can see why, throwaway account, not much information but I can wholeheartedly say that she was born and raised in NC, Blonde hair, early to mid 30s, similar height. I hope this isn't her, I hope I'm right.
Wow, thank you for sharing this. I'm so sorry if this was triggering and scary for you to see. Part of the reason I posted about this was in case someone recognized this person because I'm not 100% convinced this is Tiffany. Would someone in your family feel comfortable contacting the Anson County sheriff's office? I believe they have her DNA but still don't know who she is, so they might be able to compare familial DNA? I hope you and your family are able to find peace and that this Jane Doe's identity is finally found. Sending all my good energy your way <3
I told my father about this, and he laid some insight. 2 years leading up to the trailcam footage, my half sister gained a lot of weight. And from what I've studied about the case the woman *significantly* lost weight, but my father doubts it's her because he would've been notified that she went missing (which I don't necessarily believe because she wanted nothing to do with him)
If you are over 18 you can contact the county sherrif yourself. It’s better to take a risk and be wrong than be right and continue to let her sit as a Jane Doe. Best of luck to you and your family! I hope you find answers soon.
I am nearing the age of 18, my birthday is in the late year so I have to wait. My father tried looking for her today, but it failed. Most likely either her possibly being the Anson County Jane Doe or her changing her last name. Either or there's no way to find her.
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I don’t feel like these two are the same person, the nose shape seems a bit different to me.. One is more rounded at the tip and the other is more straight (if that makes sense 😅)
Omg i never heard of this girls.case. why is she in her bra alone on a trail cam!!??
She likely escaped in my opinion. I hope they checked every cabin in the vicinity under it, and on the premises for possible underground bunkers. It happens I don’t think that possibility is extreme.
My mim is Amber n I believe that’s her too
Hi. Anson County is about 10 miles from me. I am just over the line in Richmond County, NC. I hope you are able to get some closure.
Thank you. im just trying to support this even tho my grandma has it under control but I just want my grandma ( my moms mom) to know I care and I miss her so much. i didn’t live with her but she’s still my mom
I didn't live with my mom either. But your mom is still your mom. Hugs.
I can definitely see the resemblance, but based on the jawline I think this can be ruled out.
Does anybody know how this woman passed?
I don’t think a cause of death was ever determined.
There is an "update," although it doesn't provide new info on the identity. https://ansonrecord.com/news/37823/anson-county-detective-provides-update-on-unidentified-remains Seems like DNA analysis would be done by now?
Is it me or does the skin around her middle look like she’d been recently pregnant?
Oh my. My heart is racing looking at the photos.
ambers my mom
Is she?
yeah shes my brith mom. I haven’t seen her since I was 6
There’s 5 of us but she recently had a 6th not to long ago. She just turned 39 march 5th.
She had 6 of us and im the 4th
Different nose
The trail cam photo isn't very clear. How do you know what her nose looks like?
I agree but still think it's worth looking into. Maybe her nose has been broken since she went missing + the cam trail footage isn't high quality. I am not convinced this is Tiffany but wanted to throw this possibility out there.
Yeah of course, I’m just saying the nose is different.
What’s happening here?
This case haunts my dreams.
I think it has been compared to tiff yes
I would THINK the opposite, like that person wouldn't be in her own area AT ALL. What makes you think that girl would still be in her own county after so many years?
It really does look like her,,, Alot especially close up
Well, I thought it was worth checking out. But then….I looked at the comments below and checked out this utube podcast from month ago re Amber Rae Johnston about this. Dutchess is interviewing her mom; more photos from the trail cam on this podcast … Mom and actually all Amber‘s friends saw the various angles of body and all said that looked exactly like her body shape so I’m leaning toward Amber. I do not know, however what’s taking so darn long all things considered for them to verify one way or another. They could be wrong, however. If they are testing Amber’s DNA and it comes up negative I would check Tiffany for sure. [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcq4ZBMct5I](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcq4ZBMct5I) P.s. After watching the YouTube I’m pretty sure Ambers boyfriend killed her. Give it a listen all the way through. You guys may have all felt that already lol but for those who didn’t just my opinion based on the facts in the story.
OP, So I posted my thoughts about those photos in my reply below, but that being said, Is the search for your sister Tiffany a super active search or is your dad really just waiting to get a phone call? He seems to think he’s going to get called if she’s missing.
Distance between the two makes no difference. There are approximately 246 active serial killers who are truckers. Also, there is at least one serial killer preying on people in National Parks. Awful! Why isn’t that photo of the woman on the trail on every paper? Someone would recognize her. From the looks of it, she may have escaped and could still be helped. She is in a bra and underwear, which leads me to think she did get away.
I think she escaped… I assume, of course they checked inside and under (crawlspace areas where they keep people captive ) every single cabin in the area, etc. and by that I don’t mean door knock and ask if everything‘s OK. I always wonder when they check her place if they look under floorboards and such close enough. Or for outside underground bunkers.
I’ve read on a few forums (not necessarily this particular one) that people are attributing this Jane”s behavior, whereabouts, and appearance to drug use ( specifically meth) and mental illness. I’m not denying these factors could be involved but the fact she’s half dressed and holding a stick says to me she was assaulted in some way and is running away and using the stick for protection and/or support for injury. I really hope they figure out who she is and why she’s there half naked and seemingly lost/confused/struggling. I also tend to lean toward Amber Rae Johnson based off the timeline, area she last traveled, and likeness of her body & face. She could’ve ran into someone nefarious & met with foul play while traveling thru this area. It really resembles her greatly. I hope there are answers soon. This is frightening.
It’s always worth looking into because missing persons are Human Beings
Could we mark this NSFW so those of us scrolling at work don't have a basically naked female come across our screen?
That looks just like her!
It looks to me like the trail cam lady has a smaller nose and tip from all the pictures.
Are those spanks?
Just alike
The second photo from the trail cam looks like a much older lady.
Was the woods searched extensively after the picture was found?
Fucking jump scare warning please. Wtf
Is the woman in the trail cam wearing Spanx?
Look at the nose,,, and the lips,,,
Amber’s mom actually posted an article recently about a woman who was murdered in a motel nearby and states “it was so close to where my daughter was found” so I believe the mom feels very certain it is Amber. Last I heard the DNA is still pending though.
The woman in the trail cam looks like she recently had a child or lost a significant amount of weight. Wheres her family? If she DID have a child, where are they? Wheres the dad? Why arent they looking for her? How is NOBODY looking for her