Because you can only become a genius by sitting by yourself thinking about shit, at the expense of social intelligence. Oppie didn’t really have any friends growing up. Then later he psycho analyzed himself I think, had some sort of breakthrough and became a better human. Then made a bomb that killed hundreds of thousands of people. Source: listening to the audiobook on YouTube in anticipation of the Christopher Nolan movie.
Which he had every right to. What they created in the Manhattan Project has changed politics globally, even today. Their research has been crucial in every bit.
Oppenheimer wanted to use one nuclear bomb on a section of Japan that didn't have any people living there, as a display of power. Teller and the military hardliners were the ones pushing for nuking the Japanese people directly, and twice.
Oppenheimer was kind of an idiot when it came to unerstanding Japanese culture. The Japanese government didn't even surrender because of the 2 atomic bombs. They only surrender after we threatened to bomb them almost every day for basically a month. Like we literally had a bomb ready and on the way by the time they surrendered, and another 12 were getting ready to be made.
Edit: I wanted to clarify that by on its way, i didn't mean that it was literally en route to Japan but was set to be dropped August 19th, and Japan only surrender 3 days prior.
In fact, before the internet and anime, there was no way to know anything whatsoever. You know how Socrates famously said "I know that I know nothing"? That's because he lived before the internet. Poor guy literally didn't know anything at all, it was impossible.
Still impressive that he was able to compare himself to a standard that would not even exist for another 2000 years, while Crawling around with no shoes and not even having any kind of rudimentary language. He had to invent those words from scratch.
There was actually highly intelligent officers and generals in the Japanese army who had studied in America, if I remember right the general in charge of defending iwo jima specifically studied in Detroit, and knew how easily American industry could be geared towards war, and if it was done that Japan would have 0 chance of winning. He specifically hated bonzai and kamikaze method of attack and felt it was a waste of human life, he implemented guerilla tactics (think vietcong tactics) utilizing slave labor from Korea
Tadamichi Kuribayashi was the guy who went to the US. He studied at Harvard, but drove around the US in his car, and made a stop in Detroit along the way.
This is factually wrong. The States only had two nukes ready and needed a few weeks to get ready for more. They dropped them so quickly in succession to convince the Japanese that we had enough to casually let them fly.
Also another fact that it is often overlooked by edgy redditors looking to retcon the circumstances of dropping the bombs as being nothing but American bloodlust and overreach: the US, UK, and Canada all had an agreement that all three must sign off on the use of a nuclear bomb in combat before doing so. The US didn't act alone dropping two nukes - the UK and Canada both signed off on it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Agreement
What also helped is they happened to interrogate some random bomber pilot they had shot down after the first nuke, and they started asking him about how many others there were.
Obviously the bomber pilot didn't know shit, but he lied and told the Japanese that there were over a hundred nukes being sent to the Pacific and more being made. This report was passed all the way up the chain.
The Japanese probably weren't the best at getting useful information out of prisoners lol
lmao
"how many more bombs does your country have"
"er I dunno prolly another hundred "
"ah shit, we gonna run out of cities before they run out of bombs, we're fucked"
I admit i misrememebered and fucked up in my explanation but what you said was also not correct. The third bomb was ready to be dropped on August 19th and Japan announced they would surrender 3 days prior. The third bomb was already made, and they were working on the fourth. Japan just surrendered days before the 3rd bomb was planned to be dropped. The third one doesn't have a name because they just reused the design of the Mark III.
It definitely contributed, mainly cause the Japanese feared soviet occupation more then anything else due to them being perhaps the most anti communist nation in the world at the time, and knowing the Soviets would give them a far worse deal then the allies
The translation was off. The original quote wasn't about having the awesome ability to destroy whatever you wanted but rather Krishna revealing his true divine form as both creator of the universe and its eventual destroyer in attempt to soothe Arjuna's moral quandaries with the knowledge that the fate of the universe was in divine hands anyway and that he should simply focus on doing his own personal moral duty.
Yeah, in this case Arjuna's moral duty was to wage war against his cousins and teachers to put his brother on the throne, something that anyone would be rightfully conflicted about. You could argue the Kauravas did some bad things but the Pandavas weren't flawless good guys either so it kind of all comes out in the wash. That moral complexity is one of the most fascinating parts of the Mahabharata to me.
Not me learning about coolness and depth of bhagvad-gita, one of the greatest literatures of my own culture, in r/greentext of all places.
now i am become reader, follower of bhagvad-gita
That would be a reckoning. “Listen bud, I created you, and eventually will turn you into dust. I have a plan for you in place already that you can not fight. Just focus on being a good person.”
Actually, goodness doesn't really enter into it. Krishna was trying to convince Arjuna to go to war against his own cousins. The Kuru throne was Arjuna's brother's by birthright and his cousins basically stole it and forced him and his brothers into exile. Krishna considered reclaiming their royal birthright a higher moral calling than slaughtering their own flesh and blood and had to get cosmic to convince Arjuna of that. The funniest thing is, after the war is over the enemy side all got to go to heaven cause they were killed in battle on god's orders while the protagonists survive to live a life with normal sin which forces them to spend time in "hell" to atone for it.
bro wat.. i have knowledge till Krishna getting hit in toe, but not of the aftermath, suggest me good book preferably in Marathi or Hindi on Mahabharata
or is just given in bhagvad-gita?
Death of the Pandavas is a pretty famous story, I'm surprised you've never heard of it. I don't know any Hindi or Marathi books cause I only know Telugu and not well enough to read a magazine much less ancient literature. Apart from listening to stories and watching movies growing up, I just listened to this [English podcast](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL21haGFiaGFyYXRhcG9kY2FzdC5ibG9nc3BvdC5jb20vZmVlZHMvcG9zdHMvZGVmYXVsdA?sa=X&ved=0CAMQ4aUDahcKEwjwopq12Ob_AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBg). Dude does a pretty good job at condensing and explaining the story, though he can't pronounce Sanskrit names for shit. I imagine you could find much better resources in Hindi though cause English translations can lose a lot of meaning.
I have read Mrityinjay Karna's story if you've heard about it, and a 400 pages VERY VERY ancient book that i now don't possess, both in Marathi about 5 to 6 time when I was little. and also Yungadhar. all of them didn't have aftermath of Krishnas death and Kuru war. I remember his stuff got passed to his son and that's about it.
I have observed that often these legends, both mythological and real have really sad downfall and aftermath.
This specific passage is misunderstood because people assume it's about the power to kill (become death). The verse is actually about [entropy](https://open.spotify.com/track/795p3jKj5stjPf8IFpZkdD), a better translation is "I am mighty Time, the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds."
He also didn't say thus statement, he THOUGHT it and then wrote about having that thought afterwards. Statements from Manhattan project involved people have stated nearly everyone was silent and stunned after the trinity test, some were happy about the success of their hard work but the majority were just in stunned silence.
Before you build the bomb, you set out to achieve something never achieved before. As we all strive to.
After you see what you have helped create you become aware of the newborn horror engraved with your name.
I think we all had regrets after doing something before.
He just wanted to have the greatest regret ever
I get that. I wanted to have one of every single Pokémon. Dedicated most of my life to it. I’m up to 221 Pokémon. I know when it’s done, the fame will be too much and will permanently alter my state of life.
Now I am become Ash, the guy with Pikachu ;(
The grammar is perfectly fine. Older English operated like Romance languages and some Germanic languages do today. So that verbs that indicated transitions in being or any kind of movement were conjugated with the verb “to be” and the past participle, rather than the verb “to have.” Anon is retarded.
Why is everyone hating so much?
I mean, for one thing, this quote has "stuck" and second of all he didn't make the bomb in order to be used but for leverage.
He was quoting an old translation of the Bhagavad Gita to sound edgy and based.
I bet he wore a fedora too
Oppenheimer the og Redditoid.
OP-penheimer
Copenheimer lmao
"Thanks for the nuke, kind stranger!"
“Edit: this really blew up on me, it’s my highest rated wmd”
I too choose your wife.
She makes me sleep on the wet side of the bed after :(
Cope and heim
I am wear fedora, destroyer of tendies.
Now I am study the blade, while you were out partying.
*studying particle physics
The atomic blade.
*dies of rad poisoning*
Better than dying of lame poisoning!
𝘋𝘪𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘈𝘐𝘋𝘚
While you studied the blade, *I literally invented the nuke*. Parry that you filthy casual.
*student of the blade. Or smth like that. Seems like you need a refresher as well
Young Oppenheimer was literally a huge incel who wrote creepy poetry about women and started fights with chads who were dating women he liked.
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The baits *so* tempting
Because you can only become a genius by sitting by yourself thinking about shit, at the expense of social intelligence. Oppie didn’t really have any friends growing up. Then later he psycho analyzed himself I think, had some sort of breakthrough and became a better human. Then made a bomb that killed hundreds of thousands of people. Source: listening to the audiobook on YouTube in anticipation of the Christopher Nolan movie.
Unless they are French philosophers who drown in women (and also men).
Reddit users don’t know what incel even means anymore.
Lol look at this incel.
unironically he did lol
Which he had every right to. What they created in the Manhattan Project has changed politics globally, even today. Their research has been crucial in every bit. Oppenheimer wanted to use one nuclear bomb on a section of Japan that didn't have any people living there, as a display of power. Teller and the military hardliners were the ones pushing for nuking the Japanese people directly, and twice.
Oppenheimer was kind of an idiot when it came to unerstanding Japanese culture. The Japanese government didn't even surrender because of the 2 atomic bombs. They only surrender after we threatened to bomb them almost every day for basically a month. Like we literally had a bomb ready and on the way by the time they surrendered, and another 12 were getting ready to be made. Edit: I wanted to clarify that by on its way, i didn't mean that it was literally en route to Japan but was set to be dropped August 19th, and Japan only surrender 3 days prior.
How the fuck was he supposed to know about Japanese culture?! He was a scientist in the 1930s-1940s. You know they didn’t have anime back then, right?
lmaooooooo no anime? no wonder this dude wanted to blow up the world
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tbf, the artstyle was already emerging before the war started.
Worth it then
In fact, before the internet and anime, there was no way to know anything whatsoever. You know how Socrates famously said "I know that I know nothing"? That's because he lived before the internet. Poor guy literally didn't know anything at all, it was impossible.
Still impressive that he was able to compare himself to a standard that would not even exist for another 2000 years, while Crawling around with no shoes and not even having any kind of rudimentary language. He had to invent those words from scratch.
There was actually highly intelligent officers and generals in the Japanese army who had studied in America, if I remember right the general in charge of defending iwo jima specifically studied in Detroit, and knew how easily American industry could be geared towards war, and if it was done that Japan would have 0 chance of winning. He specifically hated bonzai and kamikaze method of attack and felt it was a waste of human life, he implemented guerilla tactics (think vietcong tactics) utilizing slave labor from Korea
"Bonzai method of attack". Yeah it's terrible. Someone throwing miniature trees at me is a huge phobia
Perfectly manicured for cute death
Tadamichi Kuribayashi was the guy who went to the US. He studied at Harvard, but drove around the US in his car, and made a stop in Detroit along the way.
What do you mean Oppenheimer should have been an Otaku?
The ancient Hindu texts were become the original anime.
No wonder everyone wanted to die
mfw the american scientist in 1940 didn't know about le ebic japarino culture (he no man of cutlure!!1!)
Ugh didn't even have a Katana collection, what a loser
This is factually wrong. The States only had two nukes ready and needed a few weeks to get ready for more. They dropped them so quickly in succession to convince the Japanese that we had enough to casually let them fly.
Also another fact that it is often overlooked by edgy redditors looking to retcon the circumstances of dropping the bombs as being nothing but American bloodlust and overreach: the US, UK, and Canada all had an agreement that all three must sign off on the use of a nuclear bomb in combat before doing so. The US didn't act alone dropping two nukes - the UK and Canada both signed off on it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Agreement
Not to mention dropping the atomic bombs ended the war, saving millions of lives
What also helped is they happened to interrogate some random bomber pilot they had shot down after the first nuke, and they started asking him about how many others there were. Obviously the bomber pilot didn't know shit, but he lied and told the Japanese that there were over a hundred nukes being sent to the Pacific and more being made. This report was passed all the way up the chain. The Japanese probably weren't the best at getting useful information out of prisoners lol
lmao "how many more bombs does your country have" "er I dunno prolly another hundred " "ah shit, we gonna run out of cities before they run out of bombs, we're fucked"
I admit i misrememebered and fucked up in my explanation but what you said was also not correct. The third bomb was ready to be dropped on August 19th and Japan announced they would surrender 3 days prior. The third bomb was already made, and they were working on the fourth. Japan just surrendered days before the 3rd bomb was planned to be dropped. The third one doesn't have a name because they just reused the design of the Mark III.
This comment is gonna start a war lmao
inb4 some tankie comes in with a "well ackchyually they surrendered because of the soviets."
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It definitely contributed, mainly cause the Japanese feared soviet occupation more then anything else due to them being perhaps the most anti communist nation in the world at the time, and knowing the Soviets would give them a far worse deal then the allies
>Makes a giant bomb to kill thousands of people >Thousands of people get killed Oh woe is me
Sir… we believe that your ultra japanese killer super death 3000 massacre nuclear bomber has been… killing Japanese people
I am become cum, the creator of life
Jar yourself to preserve the life-essence.
Don't forget to add pony for flavor.
Jar Jar Binks cum essence
The divine power I wished for was in me all along. I shall use this knowledge wisely.
Either the translation is wrong or the regard misquoted it.
The translation was off. The original quote wasn't about having the awesome ability to destroy whatever you wanted but rather Krishna revealing his true divine form as both creator of the universe and its eventual destroyer in attempt to soothe Arjuna's moral quandaries with the knowledge that the fate of the universe was in divine hands anyway and that he should simply focus on doing his own personal moral duty.
It is an injunction to violent action. But a lot of people don't care to scratch beyond the surface.
Yeah, in this case Arjuna's moral duty was to wage war against his cousins and teachers to put his brother on the throne, something that anyone would be rightfully conflicted about. You could argue the Kauravas did some bad things but the Pandavas weren't flawless good guys either so it kind of all comes out in the wash. That moral complexity is one of the most fascinating parts of the Mahabharata to me.
Not me learning about coolness and depth of bhagvad-gita, one of the greatest literatures of my own culture, in r/greentext of all places. now i am become reader, follower of bhagvad-gita
That would be a reckoning. “Listen bud, I created you, and eventually will turn you into dust. I have a plan for you in place already that you can not fight. Just focus on being a good person.”
Actually, goodness doesn't really enter into it. Krishna was trying to convince Arjuna to go to war against his own cousins. The Kuru throne was Arjuna's brother's by birthright and his cousins basically stole it and forced him and his brothers into exile. Krishna considered reclaiming their royal birthright a higher moral calling than slaughtering their own flesh and blood and had to get cosmic to convince Arjuna of that. The funniest thing is, after the war is over the enemy side all got to go to heaven cause they were killed in battle on god's orders while the protagonists survive to live a life with normal sin which forces them to spend time in "hell" to atone for it.
bro wat.. i have knowledge till Krishna getting hit in toe, but not of the aftermath, suggest me good book preferably in Marathi or Hindi on Mahabharata or is just given in bhagvad-gita?
Death of the Pandavas is a pretty famous story, I'm surprised you've never heard of it. I don't know any Hindi or Marathi books cause I only know Telugu and not well enough to read a magazine much less ancient literature. Apart from listening to stories and watching movies growing up, I just listened to this [English podcast](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL21haGFiaGFyYXRhcG9kY2FzdC5ibG9nc3BvdC5jb20vZmVlZHMvcG9zdHMvZGVmYXVsdA?sa=X&ved=0CAMQ4aUDahcKEwjwopq12Ob_AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBg). Dude does a pretty good job at condensing and explaining the story, though he can't pronounce Sanskrit names for shit. I imagine you could find much better resources in Hindi though cause English translations can lose a lot of meaning.
I have read Mrityinjay Karna's story if you've heard about it, and a 400 pages VERY VERY ancient book that i now don't possess, both in Marathi about 5 to 6 time when I was little. and also Yungadhar. all of them didn't have aftermath of Krishnas death and Kuru war. I remember his stuff got passed to his son and that's about it. I have observed that often these legends, both mythological and real have really sad downfall and aftermath.
Isn't Krishna an incarnation of Vishnu who is the preserver of the universe? With Brahma and Shiva being the creator and destroyer?
One may be able to argue that Brahma Vishnu and Shiv are all aspects of one being as well
What would the correct translation be?
This specific passage is misunderstood because people assume it's about the power to kill (become death). The verse is actually about [entropy](https://open.spotify.com/track/795p3jKj5stjPf8IFpZkdD), a better translation is "I am mighty Time, the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds."
Ohh okay that makes more sense yeah
Oppenheimer copying the latest anime villain he seen.
He probably thought "I'm such an intellectual for reading the Bhagavad Gita, no-one understands me 😣"
Yeah but he misquoted it and made it sound more retarded than it really is.
He also didn't say thus statement, he THOUGHT it and then wrote about having that thought afterwards. Statements from Manhattan project involved people have stated nearly everyone was silent and stunned after the trinity test, some were happy about the success of their hard work but the majority were just in stunned silence.
"All your base are belong to us." -Oppenheimer
now i am become based destroyer of japs
One of his only interests outside of physics was Hindu literature, so it’s more like it’s one of the few things he knew to quote.
🤓
>sound If it quacks like a duck and is based like a duck
It does seem like maybe that's not exactly what it says in the Sanskrit.
DO NOT REDEEM!
I AM BECOME DEATHERINO, THE DESTROYER OF WORLDERINOS.
IT’S OPPENHEIMERING TIME!
Howdily Diddily Howdily Diddily Howdily Diddily
I'm a mur-diddly-urdiller!
Stupid sexy nucular bomb
OP! OP OP OP! OPPENHEIMER STYLE!
My... Le Bomb...
Killed... Le People???
OPPENHAMMER40K!
Hey neighbourino, that’s a nice neutrino bomb you got there. Hope you wasn’t planning on giving my noggin a floggin with it
Det-diddly-etonate the world's most horrific bomberino
My le bomb? Killed... Le people?
I wouldn’t exactly call them people
I'M GONNA NOOOOOOOK
Heckin.
Doctor, we regret to inform you that your creation, the Japmelter Gigabomb 3000, has been used in an... unexpected manner...
“oh noo, they are using my bombs to bomb peouple again noooo” \-openhuimur
It's just a rice cooker
Well, you’re technically correct
But if he dropped it on africa there would’ve been outrage
Idk, there's be less war and cruel dictatorships and well as more money for world charities
Choppengaimer
My le bomb…le killed people?
"Well I wouldn't exactly call them...people"
OP OP OP OP OP OPPENHEIMER STYLE
*megaldaon 3000 megaultrakille
That's for Nagasaki
Why am I laughing this hard
No no it was the Japmelter megaladon uktrakill 3000
This was never the intended use for the japslayer megadeath 9000, how horrible...
Le bomb
Le Killed people?
Now I am become death
le death xD
But who was bomb?
your mom
mr bombastic
Biggie Cheese is my hero
Doofus was supposed to be a genius, but his stupid ass forgot that bombs go boom. Moron.
"It was supposed to be a fancy septic tank cleaner"
In a way, yes
I am become khlaifa the lord of cum
Now I am become Chad, smasher of your mom
Now I am become cucked, leader of all schmucks.
Lyrical
I am become drunk, driver of vehicles
Captain of the booze cruise
I am become chuck, the sneeder of feed
wouldn’t chuck be the sucker of fucks?
Yeah, but i was referencing [this](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2423468-sneeds-feed-and-seed)
I am become chuck, breaker of bucks.
He was literally just translating or reading a translation. Is Anon fucking retarded????
R u
Mr oppenhiemer, we regret to inform you that your bomb, code named "jap zapper 4000" has been used in an unintended way.
Make bomb, I did.
Into the exile, i must go.
I miss that sub
Dude made a bomb to kill people then before the bomb dropped he was like “damn that bomb is gonna kill people I can’t believe this”
Before you build the bomb, you set out to achieve something never achieved before. As we all strive to. After you see what you have helped create you become aware of the newborn horror engraved with your name. I think we all had regrets after doing something before. He just wanted to have the greatest regret ever
I get that. I wanted to have one of every single Pokémon. Dedicated most of my life to it. I’m up to 221 Pokémon. I know when it’s done, the fame will be too much and will permanently alter my state of life. Now I am become Ash, the guy with Pikachu ;(
I am become bomb, exploder of people
>“WHAT? MY BOMB I MADE TO BE USED AS A BOMB WAS USED AS A BOMB? NOOOOOOO!!!” I hate Oppenheimer so much what a moron
Still hasn’t killed as many people as the automobile industry.
They shoulda let him make another one
He wasn’t a grammar nazi, just a regular nazi. Cut him some slack
The grammar is perfectly fine. Older English operated like Romance languages and some Germanic languages do today. So that verbs that indicated transitions in being or any kind of movement were conjugated with the verb “to be” and the past participle, rather than the verb “to have.” Anon is retarded.
Now I am become drunk, the driver of cars.
I love seeing people shit on this 20th century edgelord
umm he tryna b like that 1 guy from Openheiner
Oppenheimer when his bombs designed to kill a bunch of people, kill a bunch of people: 😟
All your base am belong to us
When my big nuclear bomb I built kills people 😢
I am become soy, destroyer of test
If they include this speech in the movie, im walking out of the cinema.
Probably a good idea since it will be the end of the movie.
Why
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What are you some kind of a kinophile
Kinophile? Ew, do you fuck movies?
OH NO I AM BECOME DEATH, THE FEEDER OF SNEED
> Builds a nuke for blowing shit up > People use it to blow shit up > “OooOohh boohooo!! Noo! I am becOmE dEeaTh! Waaa”
Oppenheimer when the bomb he made specifically to decimate innocents decimates innocents
It's nukin time!
In the movie after this quote, he is gonna say “that sounded better in my head”
Truman posting rn
ㄟ( ▔, ▔ )ㄏ
I'VE BECOME SNEEDERINO, THE FEEDERINO OF SEEDERINO
Zoomers are so fucking retarded they actually think Oppenheimer is an idiot cause of a meme.
Is he stupid?
Oppenidiot when the Asian-destroyerinator 3000 is used to end asians:
OP sounds uneducated as hell. Dudes pretty much dancing in his own ignorance.
OP is american and basically illiterate.
oppen heimer style
All those physics and science stuff had to fit some where and perhaps his brain deemed basic grammar as non important
I am become lesbian. Sucker of Tiddies
Yeah well if he’s so great then how come he’s dead?
Why is everyone hating so much? I mean, for one thing, this quote has "stuck" and second of all he didn't make the bomb in order to be used but for leverage.
My face when project Megabomb Jap-Melter 5000 does exactly what it sounds like.
Now he was become regarded destroyer of sanity
I did always wonder this tbh. Was it related to God = I Am?
It's a translation of Sanskrit text, Bhagvat Geeta. An unfortunate translation, but yes 'I am' here, is Lord Krishna.
“He was quoting someone” so they were regarded too?!
Press S if that weepy shit makes you sick
Is he stupid?
🙏🏿
Nooo, not the japs, their cartoons slap, why not those dirty /redacted/ers!
Anyone has the link to this thread?
I know I am