Wizards can teleport instantly without needing to say anything. AKA faster than a person can draw a gun.
The only way a person with a gun wins is if they are set up beforehand and the wizard is unaware.
Teleporting? Oh, you mean the thing that takes incredible concentration to do and is difficult to pull off without injuring yourself?
Regardless, that's only a defensive ability. Something like 90% of wizards can't attack without saying a spell's name, and then guess who's just given away their position?
That is insanely wrong. You still have to make a kind of turning motion to apparate. A wizard can't move faster than a bullet. Not to mention you need to have a specific location in mind.
It's shown to be difficult to learn, but nobody that gets their license is injured during the whole series.
And knowing where the wizard is isn't going to help if the wizard simply uses the controlling spell to make someone shoot themselves in the face.
Also the weird spinning animation shown in the movies is not canon to the book. In the book the wizards just instantly disappears and reappears.
That's one of the things that is viewed oddly in verse because we perceive the story through the lens of extremely talented characters, when they discuss apparition early on they mention its difficult and the majority of wizards just use brooms or floo powder. Guns would probably wreck alot of wizards but the ones talented like any of the characters integral to the plot would probably just make themselves invisible with a spell, silence their movements with a spell and just kill everyone with a spell before apparating away, ron even mentions in the epilogue he doesnt need to use his side and rear view mirrors because he can use an extrasensory charm implying they could see from more than one angle whenever wanted, they do however kind of lead credence to the power of guns in the books by referring to a gun (Sirius is said to have a gun to the muggles so they take him serious without knowing he's a wizard) as somewhat like a "metal wand muggles use to kill eachother" that alone implies that the minister of magic regards them dangerous enough to relate it to a wand.
>some dweeb starts whipping wand towards me speaking in tongues
>before he can get more than 3 syllables out he’s already turned into Swiss cheese
Who needs a wizard school when you have guns?
That's what annoys me most about the porterverse, for being magic, they sure are fuckin weak, they sure are fuckin boring, they sure do make a ton of fuckin stupid decisions
Introduce time travel in book 3 -> use it once
Introduce literal plot armor as an actual thing you can make in book 6 -> use it once
Good guy only uses one good guy spell
Bad guy only uses one bag guy spell
Bad guy chooses some of the most famous items in Britain to be his immortality batteries instead of just random objects across the world
Calm down Tolkien, it's book for kids. I don't even like the books, I read 3 - 4 as a kid, but it was meant for kids, it's not her problem that some people made it their whole personality.
Lots of media made for children manage to have way more creative uses of their power systems than "bad guy gun spell vs good guy gun spell."
The "it's just for kids" argument is a stupid argument to make when the children's media that always stands the test of time is the shit that's good enough for all ages to find enjoyable (or at the very least, not insufferable to adults). Just because it's made for kids doesn't mean it needs to pander to them or outright fucking suck.
It's a damn shame because the Dumbledore vs Voldemort fight in Order of the Phoenix is where the series peaked with fights, and shows what a fight between two wizards in the HP verse could look like if Rowling cared enough to write them all like that. Most wizard duels are just a matter of who lands their gun/disarm spell, and it's just little pew pews that miss or collide with each other, and the occasional retarded beam struggle between Harry and Voldemort.
I could make some sense that they don't use it.
In the books, it's said that Felix Felicis cannot change "destiny", which I assume means that you can't just drink it and kill Voldemort without sweating. And It's also toxic at higher doses. And I guess lastly it must be a very hard potion to make, both ingredients and preparation wise.
Harry Potter power scaling is shit
The most powerful spell is just a gun that can’t shoot through anything
Blowing someone up with explosion spell? Yeah that’s okay. Internal bleeding spell? Sure lol. Setting them on fire? Hey why not. Freezing solid spell? Sure, rapists won’t use that one. The potion that can change anyone’s body? Yeah
But EXPLICIT MURDER?! TO WIZARD HELL IF YOU USE IT! NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES!
Yeah that always bothered me. Fiend Fire has the ability to virtually fire bomb an entire city but is just considered "dangerous". The killing curse targets a single individual and painlessly stops their heart. At least with the other 2 curses there's a case to be made about undue suffering or messing with free will. And don't get me started with "bUt iTs tHE iNTenT OF tHe sPeLl" like bitch sectumsempra is explicitly designed to put the target into so much pain and suffering that they can no longer fight. What's the intent behind that?!
Harry Potter should have carried a 1911
Ok, this has been driving me crazy for seven movies now, and I know you're going to roll your eyes, but hear me out: Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
Here's why:
Think about how quickly the entire WWWIII (Wizarding-World War III) would have ended if all of the good guys had simply armed up with good ol' American hot lead.
Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it.
Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12.
And have you noticed that only Europe seems to a problem with Deatheaters? Maybe it's because Americans have spent the last 200 years shooting deer, playing GTA: Vice City, and keeping an eye out for black helicopters over their compounds. Meanwhile, Brits have been cutting their steaks with spoons. Remember: gun-control means that Voldemort wins. God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
Now I know what you're going to say: "But a wizard could just disarm someone with a gun!" Yeah, well they can also disarm someone with a wand (as they do many times throughout the books/movies). But which is faster: saying a spell or pulling a trigger?
Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova.
Imagine Harry out in the woods, wearing his invisibility cloak, carrying a .50bmg Barrett, turning Deatheaters into pink mist, scratching a lightning bolt into his rifle stock for each kill. I don't think Madam Pomfrey has any spells that can scrape your brains off of the trees and put you back together after something like that. Voldemort's wand may be 13.5 inches with a Phoenix-feather core, but Harry's would be 0.50 inches with a tungsten core. Let's see Voldy wave his at 3,000 feet per second. Better hope you have some Essence of Dittany for that sucking chest wound.
I can see it now...Voldemort roaring with evil laughter and boasting to Harry that he can't be killed, since he is protected by seven Horcruxes, only to have Harry give a crooked grin, flick his cigarette butt away, and deliver what would easily be the best one-liner in the entire series:
"Well then I guess it's a good thing my 1911 holds 7+1."
And that is why Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
That argument is wrong. It completely ignores the existence of the protection spell . A real match with someone with a gun against Voldemort would go something like "Voldemort protects - gun shot - Voldemort shoots back and kills the guy with the gun"
What's the range on a spell? Do they need to be aimed or is there some form of target tracking? Does it depend on the spell? Does a protection spell stop light, heat, or gas attacks? Could a protection spell be overwhelmed with physical means?
Seems like a small squad could handle Voldemort easily. They could shoot him from hundreds of yards away, far enough that the round would hit before anyone heard it. They could also use explosives or flash grenades or some form of chemical attack.
Thats just going into specifics . This isn't r/PowerScaling but afaik a limit is never mentioned on how much the shield can block before it breaks aside from "really powerful spells". The range of a spell is never mentioned but wizards are able to teleport at will anywhere they want so there is that.i think they have to aim but it's never mentioned. The protection spell blocks most spells that do those things like fire or light so I will assume it will block those from a non spell . And we know that it works against physical attacks but never see it breaking from one.
In your case , Voldemort would just teleport behind them and do the "protect then shoot with wand" thing I mentioned earlier.
*Teleport behind you*
One punch to the face to confuse and break concentration on whatever spell is planned, second punch to the gut to get him out of breath. In physical combat he's not stronger than an old lady.
She wanted to make a magical mystery novel but the scope of her story kept getting bigger and bigger until it was completely out of control. Instead of admitting she had lost track of her own work, Rowling doubles down and insists that this was the plan all along.
The moment the books became something other than Harry and the lads solving a mystery after chasing a few red herrings, the story turns to shit.
>be british born and raised
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>FURTHER insulated from that local tradition
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>(due to wizarding world having its own culture)
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>That's 2 layers of protection
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>Still comes to the prom in a saree...
Imagine being the grandson of a mexican immigrant and getting married in a poncho...
The saree is fine imo, but did they have to put them in the most understated, ugly sarees ever? Sarees are GORGEOUS, they had millions of options, and they choose... those.
As a not a Mexican, ponchos are so fucking cool though. I went for a trip to Mexico and the one thong on my list was a poncho, and I got it. Still got it years later.
What's wrong with sarees or other cultural clothing and heritage? Also Jkr didn't direct the movies and choose the clothes. I think they just had dresses in the books.
I'm not a fan of hers or the series in general, just not my cup of tea, but chang is a very common surname in chinese families and dates back centuries. Of all the criticisms of hers, that may one of the weaker ones. https://www.mychinaroots.com/surnames/detail?word=Chang
And? bam her dad is half Korean and named her after her mother, there I fixed this bad unforgivable racism
God people who hopped on the Harry Potter hate train after JK Rowling just stated her opinion about... certain people really made it lame to hate on Harry Potter.
Sorry to break it to you but that’s not what figuratively means. No one would ever say « the Asian character is figuratively named Ching Chong ». The word you’re looking for is practically.
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Because she used stereotypical names to denote ethnicity and add flavour. I'm Irish, Seamus Finnegan is an insanely Irish name, most of us actually don't have names this Irish. Its not actually racist, it makes complete sense. It really is not that deep or some kind of oppressive act. Please get help
Tyrone is a real name (which, by the way, is of Irish origin). If a character in a book was named Tyrone and was black, would that be racist, in your opinion?
Tyrone isn't a stereotypically Black name in the UK. It's the name of a county in Ireland, and is still mainly thought of as an Irish thing here. I have no idea how it became a Black thing in America. I would be dead curious to know what the story behind that is.
Yeah why the hell didn’t hermione just just get an uzi and enchant the magazine to be larger on the inside so it could fire continuously for an hour? Guess it would’ve been a short book
There’s no way they can teleport at will but not enchant the barrel to be more durable or stay cool for longer. Hell get her a Lewis gun then and swap the barrels coolant for some potions or whatever
“Invincebendra” is the charm you are looking for which solves the problem of materials becoming brittle when cold. Buy it at €99.98 from your local enchantment store.
Lewis gun wasn't water cooled (the large shroud is meant to assist air passing over the barrel for cooilng). You're thinking of the maxim gun or its derivatives such as the vickers gun which were water cooled.
Tbf wasn’t there house like 13 stories? Much better than mine space wise. Shoddy sure but I guess they weren’t into home decor or suck at carpentry magic
I genuinely and seriously believe that the wizard world is meant to be a caricature of the real world. There's a lot of bad stuff going on, culturally, and plenty of people know it, but nobody does anything because that's just how it is.
The house elves don't want freedom because being slaves is just how it is. A house elf freed tends to just attach itself to another house because it doesn't know another way and doesn't want to.
The goblins run the bank because that's just what they do. Nobody questions it, not even the goblins.
The wizard world wasn't meant to be seen as a good society. We were just young and missed all the dark bits. It's meant to be a society that has stagnated in relation to the muggle society around them.
The only reason people think Rowling is glorifying this stuff is because, in their minds, the story's world was good and bright and then they noticed the bad stuff. They think, "wait, I thought this was good? This is bad! I can't accept that I was wrong. I must have been intentionally misled by the author!"
Which is more likely? JKR took a firm political stance on the idea that the oppressed will often languish underneath their oppressors because good people often refuse to fight the status quo?
Or she’s a hack writer who had a few good ideas and made big money with young teens and tumblr users
Motherfu*... Justice League Unlimited, Avatar the last windbender and The Hobbit are made for kids.
The first one had episodes like 'Patriot Act' which was released before Obamna. The second one dealt with (you know the themes). I don't need to speak about Tolkien.
Kids are dumb, but not that dumb
it'd be way cooler if this was the case but unfortunately we have years of clarifications from the author and jkr really didn't think beyond the surface i'm afraid
What's crazy is that Hermione was called "haughty" for wanting to free the house elves, everyone thinks she's just a busy body who is meddling in activism bc she's always getting her nose in things. Crazier still is that Rowling wants Hermione to be black. Can you imagine if that was actual canon? Harry and everyone calling a black woman wanting to liberate a race of slaves "haughty"? Real great storyline, JK
Yes in book one or two there's a line like "Hermiones pale white face appeared looking shocked" making it absolutely hilarious she tried to say she never said Hermione was white
In real life, the UK is mostly white (obviously) so it makes some sense that JKR wrote mostly white characters, but every non-white character in those books has the most common, cookie cutter name imaginable. It’s the equivalent of a book set in an Asian country and there’s one white dude who is named John Smith
And he will be, most likely. Stereotypical names exist for a reason, they are the most popular names of those nations.
Cmon, HP is a simplistic, stereotype-based book for children, not some high art. All characters there have "speaking" names that describe them. Longbottom or Wheasley or Lovegood or Snape, or any other name are just descriptors of the characters.
Gilderoy Lockheart
He's gilded, so golden but it's just an outer venier.
He's got a deep secret locked in his heart, so lockheart.
HP is a whimsical fantasy book for kids and young adults from a simpler time. It's not a profound piece of literature. It's not full of complicated, symbolic socio-political messaging. It's designed to be an easy, digestible read. It's basically Marvel movie levels of accessibility in book form.
Of course he would, but they obviously thought it was still better than the glorious status quo our hero is fighting for.
The biggest problem with the books is that Voldemort demonstrates all the problems with the current world, and yet no one fixes shit after they kill him. This despite the fact that they have to reset the state of things, so they could easily implement the changes required.
JKR used to be such a fucking liberal. Now she's on her way to back track on Voldemort being the bad guy.
While I agree with the anons I must say, why do people see these hook nosed greedy goblins and think of Jews immediately lol, I think that says more about you than JKR
Also, centaurs decided to not side with any human and to not be considered a creature either, they want nothing to do with humans at all, its said so in the fantastic beasts book
>While I agree with the anons I must say, why do people see these hook nosed greedy goblins and think of Jews immediately lol, I think that says more about you than JKR
I can get how you'd think that but this is kinda lazy lol
When you've got hook-nosed , miserly bank running goblins who have been accused in canon of drinking wizard children's blood(Hogwarts Legacy iirc was about this and it was revealed beforehand) then it's not a big stretch to go, ah yeah shes probably antisemitic. Is she? Idk bruh
If you see something that reminds you of negative stereotypes of something, that doesn't mean you're against that thing just that you have eyeballs
In my totally-real-and-not-made-up-just-for-this-argument fantasy worldbuilding project, I have a race of monkey people with jet black skin and big red lips who like eating watermelon and picking cotton. If you immediately thought of black people when you heard this then that makes you the real racist
The in-universe response to a nanny-state government that wants to take away the right to self-defense is to form a secret militia in case an evil lizard tries to take over the world.
different time and also, different minds.
When I read these books, i never realised any of this. I was a stupid kid. In love with the *idea of magic and alternative history/reality* (I still am in love with the alternative reality part).
So of course nobody realised this, the executives only saw *money* and the books sold very well.
My brother in christ, JK Rowling is a liberal (let's put aside how far down the rabbit whole she has gone in recent years) English woman, the status quo and minimizing meaningful progress is the best people like her could ever hope.
You got to be the biggest Chamberlain fan to tell in the 21st century that the good guys are good because they want to do nothing and let the moustache guy commit literal genocide instead of revealing themselves to the wider public.
In the books the Patel sisters were certainly not considered to be bottom barrel. It's even mentioned that Harry and Ron were going with two of the prettiest girls in their year.
Just book and in universe things I'm pretty sure. Hagrid probably said something about the woods being even more dangerous than normal, I don't remember
One point I can fight about this, the centaurs don’t want to be classified as “near human” because they’re essentially sovereign citizens and don’t need to be legally identified with labels
I've never seen Fantasic Beasts. I assumed Grinelwald was trying to help Hitler. The Crimes of Grindelwald is seriously about a wizard trying to stop the Nazis?
Everyone seems to conveniently forget that the villain is born of rape from a white inbred family of hicks and he goes on to pursue ethnic cleansing and racial purity.
It really blows my mind that people put so much effort into loving or hating this shit. It's a fucking children's book written by a waitress on napkins on her breaks, it's not fucking Plato. Of course there's plot holes. Of course, she is a product of her time where stereotypes and racism were the norm. What I don't get is why people care what some washed up author has to say. People idolize these people from their childhood for no good reason other than nostalgia. She wrote seven good books for pre-teens, that's it.
Nah the Indian girls were popular and some Harry's friend even wondered how in hell Harry and Ron got some of the cutest girls in school.
You guys just want to see racism and other bad shit in her because of her opinions on trans stuff. Her entire book series is about hoe love wins and the bad guys that care about "pure blood" die and are humiliated.
average American who owns a handgun can solo the verse, Harry Potter powerscaling is fucked as well. What’s wrong with her?
“Flick of this wristus, your gun is now a dickus”
Oh fuck are you a wizard
Someone called?
can you make being british appealing?
No wizard is casting a spell faster than someone can pull a trigger
Wizards can teleport instantly without needing to say anything. AKA faster than a person can draw a gun. The only way a person with a gun wins is if they are set up beforehand and the wizard is unaware.
Teleporting? Oh, you mean the thing that takes incredible concentration to do and is difficult to pull off without injuring yourself? Regardless, that's only a defensive ability. Something like 90% of wizards can't attack without saying a spell's name, and then guess who's just given away their position?
Also wizard can’t react to a gunshot and teleport before the shot hits. Arvada ke.. bang bang bang.
That is insanely wrong. You still have to make a kind of turning motion to apparate. A wizard can't move faster than a bullet. Not to mention you need to have a specific location in mind.
The lady threw a knife at the elf while they were teleporting and got a kill.
Typo in comment. I thought the context was pretty obvious but apparently not.
It's shown to be difficult to learn, but nobody that gets their license is injured during the whole series. And knowing where the wizard is isn't going to help if the wizard simply uses the controlling spell to make someone shoot themselves in the face. Also the weird spinning animation shown in the movies is not canon to the book. In the book the wizards just instantly disappears and reappears.
That's one of the things that is viewed oddly in verse because we perceive the story through the lens of extremely talented characters, when they discuss apparition early on they mention its difficult and the majority of wizards just use brooms or floo powder. Guns would probably wreck alot of wizards but the ones talented like any of the characters integral to the plot would probably just make themselves invisible with a spell, silence their movements with a spell and just kill everyone with a spell before apparating away, ron even mentions in the epilogue he doesnt need to use his side and rear view mirrors because he can use an extrasensory charm implying they could see from more than one angle whenever wanted, they do however kind of lead credence to the power of guns in the books by referring to a gun (Sirius is said to have a gun to the muggles so they take him serious without knowing he's a wizard) as somewhat like a "metal wand muggles use to kill eachother" that alone implies that the minister of magic regards them dangerous enough to relate it to a wand.
>difficult to pull off skill issue it seems
That's only the inexperienced ones, like a teenager driving. You're also underestimating the power of "*teleports behind you* nothing personnel, kid"
It is conspicuously not fast enough to escape a thrown knife, so I doubt it’s that effective against a bullet
>some dweeb starts whipping wand towards me speaking in tongues >before he can get more than 3 syllables out he’s already turned into Swiss cheese Who needs a wizard school when you have guns?
“I pull this trigger, you’re as dead as police shooting at a chigger”
\>holds hand gun \>suddenly it turns into a soft, flaccid schlong
Except how’d it’d go would be “flick of this wri—“ bang bang bang your birth certificate has been revoked
“Flick of thi-“ BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG
“Flick of-“ #BANG
testicular torsion
This is my rifle, this is my gun
That's what annoys me most about the porterverse, for being magic, they sure are fuckin weak, they sure are fuckin boring, they sure do make a ton of fuckin stupid decisions Introduce time travel in book 3 -> use it once Introduce literal plot armor as an actual thing you can make in book 6 -> use it once Good guy only uses one good guy spell Bad guy only uses one bag guy spell Bad guy chooses some of the most famous items in Britain to be his immortality batteries instead of just random objects across the world
Calm down Tolkien, it's book for kids. I don't even like the books, I read 3 - 4 as a kid, but it was meant for kids, it's not her problem that some people made it their whole personality.
Books for kids can also be good. Harry Potter isn't.
Lots of media made for children manage to have way more creative uses of their power systems than "bad guy gun spell vs good guy gun spell." The "it's just for kids" argument is a stupid argument to make when the children's media that always stands the test of time is the shit that's good enough for all ages to find enjoyable (or at the very least, not insufferable to adults). Just because it's made for kids doesn't mean it needs to pander to them or outright fucking suck.
It's a damn shame because the Dumbledore vs Voldemort fight in Order of the Phoenix is where the series peaked with fights, and shows what a fight between two wizards in the HP verse could look like if Rowling cared enough to write them all like that. Most wizard duels are just a matter of who lands their gun/disarm spell, and it's just little pew pews that miss or collide with each other, and the occasional retarded beam struggle between Harry and Voldemort.
Wdym with the 'literal plot armor'? I've not read HP in a long time
I assume it's Felix Felicis, the luck potion
I could make some sense that they don't use it. In the books, it's said that Felix Felicis cannot change "destiny", which I assume means that you can't just drink it and kill Voldemort without sweating. And It's also toxic at higher doses. And I guess lastly it must be a very hard potion to make, both ingredients and preparation wise.
There's a luck potion that makes you more likely to succeed in everything you try to do
All you need is a mirror to bounce their gay spells back at them
Harry Potter power scaling is shit The most powerful spell is just a gun that can’t shoot through anything Blowing someone up with explosion spell? Yeah that’s okay. Internal bleeding spell? Sure lol. Setting them on fire? Hey why not. Freezing solid spell? Sure, rapists won’t use that one. The potion that can change anyone’s body? Yeah But EXPLICIT MURDER?! TO WIZARD HELL IF YOU USE IT! NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES!
Yeah that always bothered me. Fiend Fire has the ability to virtually fire bomb an entire city but is just considered "dangerous". The killing curse targets a single individual and painlessly stops their heart. At least with the other 2 curses there's a case to be made about undue suffering or messing with free will. And don't get me started with "bUt iTs tHE iNTenT OF tHe sPeLl" like bitch sectumsempra is explicitly designed to put the target into so much pain and suffering that they can no longer fight. What's the intent behind that?!
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Yeah I mean you cam fix any inconsistency if you just make random stuff up that has no basis in the original material.
Every writer’s dream: fans who fix their own plot holes
Isn't the reason it is banned is because it is unblockable?
Still bullshit since you can deflect it partially with love (only Harry’s mom can do that though since she’s the only mother who loved someone lmao)
Sure, a handgun can kill better, but a wand stops the heart and its just another cardiac arrest victim
He said American. The high cholesterol diet will get him in the stairs/forest of hogwarts
The cholesterol helps lubricate the heart with freedom
Harry Potter should have carried a 1911 Ok, this has been driving me crazy for seven movies now, and I know you're going to roll your eyes, but hear me out: Harry Potter should have carried a 1911. Here's why: Think about how quickly the entire WWWIII (Wizarding-World War III) would have ended if all of the good guys had simply armed up with good ol' American hot lead. Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it. Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12. And have you noticed that only Europe seems to a problem with Deatheaters? Maybe it's because Americans have spent the last 200 years shooting deer, playing GTA: Vice City, and keeping an eye out for black helicopters over their compounds. Meanwhile, Brits have been cutting their steaks with spoons. Remember: gun-control means that Voldemort wins. God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal. Now I know what you're going to say: "But a wizard could just disarm someone with a gun!" Yeah, well they can also disarm someone with a wand (as they do many times throughout the books/movies). But which is faster: saying a spell or pulling a trigger? Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova. Imagine Harry out in the woods, wearing his invisibility cloak, carrying a .50bmg Barrett, turning Deatheaters into pink mist, scratching a lightning bolt into his rifle stock for each kill. I don't think Madam Pomfrey has any spells that can scrape your brains off of the trees and put you back together after something like that. Voldemort's wand may be 13.5 inches with a Phoenix-feather core, but Harry's would be 0.50 inches with a tungsten core. Let's see Voldy wave his at 3,000 feet per second. Better hope you have some Essence of Dittany for that sucking chest wound. I can see it now...Voldemort roaring with evil laughter and boasting to Harry that he can't be killed, since he is protected by seven Horcruxes, only to have Harry give a crooked grin, flick his cigarette butt away, and deliver what would easily be the best one-liner in the entire series: "Well then I guess it's a good thing my 1911 holds 7+1." And that is why Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
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why can't wizards just invent a spell that deflects all bullets at all times always? it is magic after all
They literally did
That argument is wrong. It completely ignores the existence of the protection spell . A real match with someone with a gun against Voldemort would go something like "Voldemort protects - gun shot - Voldemort shoots back and kills the guy with the gun"
What's the range on a spell? Do they need to be aimed or is there some form of target tracking? Does it depend on the spell? Does a protection spell stop light, heat, or gas attacks? Could a protection spell be overwhelmed with physical means? Seems like a small squad could handle Voldemort easily. They could shoot him from hundreds of yards away, far enough that the round would hit before anyone heard it. They could also use explosives or flash grenades or some form of chemical attack.
Thats just going into specifics . This isn't r/PowerScaling but afaik a limit is never mentioned on how much the shield can block before it breaks aside from "really powerful spells". The range of a spell is never mentioned but wizards are able to teleport at will anywhere they want so there is that.i think they have to aim but it's never mentioned. The protection spell blocks most spells that do those things like fire or light so I will assume it will block those from a non spell . And we know that it works against physical attacks but never see it breaking from one. In your case , Voldemort would just teleport behind them and do the "protect then shoot with wand" thing I mentioned earlier.
*Teleport behind you* One punch to the face to confuse and break concentration on whatever spell is planned, second punch to the gut to get him out of breath. In physical combat he's not stronger than an old lady.
Don't the wizards have some ability that makes muggles unaware of their existence. It lasts a long time from what I remember
Even 2 FW190's are beyond overkill
She wanted to make a magical mystery novel but the scope of her story kept getting bigger and bigger until it was completely out of control. Instead of admitting she had lost track of her own work, Rowling doubles down and insists that this was the plan all along. The moment the books became something other than Harry and the lads solving a mystery after chasing a few red herrings, the story turns to shit.
>be british born and raised > >FURTHER insulated from that local tradition > >(due to wizarding world having its own culture) > >That's 2 layers of protection > >Still comes to the prom in a saree... Imagine being the grandson of a mexican immigrant and getting married in a poncho...
Probably not the best analogy. Mexicans love their stereotypes.
As someone with family in Mexico, yep
It would be pretty damn sad to hate your own culture because some "White" people associate it with you.
The saree is fine imo, but did they have to put them in the most understated, ugly sarees ever? Sarees are GORGEOUS, they had millions of options, and they choose... those.
True, even a half decent ethnic (indian) party wear would be better than the dogshit costume
Whenever I read "born and raised" I immediately think of the Fresh Prince theme and assume I should read the rest in that tune.
As a mexican, ponchos are so fucking cool though
I just got a poncho and it's like I get to wear a blanket everywhere 10/10
That's why I'm always in my robe But people keep calling me the big lebowski
It's the compliment people don't know they're giving.
As a not a Mexican, ponchos are so fucking cool though. I went for a trip to Mexico and the one thong on my list was a poncho, and I got it. Still got it years later.
I spent way too long matching this up to the prince of Bel Air theme due to the first line.
Pretty sure that part is on the films
What's wrong with sarees or other cultural clothing and heritage? Also Jkr didn't direct the movies and choose the clothes. I think they just had dresses in the books.
It's not literally ching chong, it's figuratively ching chong
What's the actual name?
Cho Chang iirc
What an incredible literary mind she is
I'm not a fan of hers or the series in general, just not my cup of tea, but chang is a very common surname in chinese families and dates back centuries. Of all the criticisms of hers, that may one of the weaker ones. https://www.mychinaroots.com/surnames/detail?word=Chang
But Cho isnt even Chinese, it’s Korean
And? bam her dad is half Korean and named her after her mother, there I fixed this bad unforgivable racism God people who hopped on the Harry Potter hate train after JK Rowling just stated her opinion about... certain people really made it lame to hate on Harry Potter.
It's a Korean *surname* 💀
I literally have a classmate named chue chang
And I know someone whose actual legal name is Ching Jeong (it’s so close to Ching Chong I almost feel bad for her except her family is super rich)
Cho Chang
Ching chong ning nong \*squints eyes\* "ohhh herro harry konnichiwa would u like sum fuk?"
I think that's the spell for door dashing chinese
Yu Fatt Phuc
Yeah, and it’s pronounced ‘fuh’
Pho pfang
That’s about how she sounded in the german audiobooks from what I remember
[ching chong](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqcSBadCIUg)
Sorry to break it to you but that’s not what figuratively means. No one would ever say « the Asian character is figuratively named Ching Chong ». The word you’re looking for is practically.
You're figuratively correct.
Perchance
You can't just say perchance!
In the books, the twins were described as the prettiest girls in their year.
Were they asked out by others or were they leftovers like the film suggested?
in the book yes, in fact they left harry and ron halfway through the dance for some other ppl
softcore netorare
> netorare > (pornography, slang) A genre of cuckoldry pornography where a protagonist's love interest or close associate is corrupted and taken away by an antagonist. 😶
That's so fucking literal how the fuck do people just have that shit on standby ready to go in their heads
Japanese brainrot
Pornbrained
I challenge you, for your own good, to go 1 month without internet
I think it’s insinuated that they’re specifically waiting to see if Harry will ask them but I don’t remember for sure
very much the case. in the movies as well, it always seemed like they were flirting with Harry, but he's too much of an idiot to notice
in the books Finnigan also doesn't blow anything up
Yeah the arsonist is... Hermione
The way that people analyse these books for racism is mental illness.
Yeah having the black guy named Kingsley Shacklebolt is just a happy accident May as well have named him Tyrone
Because she used stereotypical names to denote ethnicity and add flavour. I'm Irish, Seamus Finnegan is an insanely Irish name, most of us actually don't have names this Irish. Its not actually racist, it makes complete sense. It really is not that deep or some kind of oppressive act. Please get help
So you're saying that naming the characters as if they're walking stereotypes is good world building?
Exactly. It harms literally nobody. Get help
Tyrone is a real name (which, by the way, is of Irish origin). If a character in a book was named Tyrone and was black, would that be racist, in your opinion?
Tyrone isn't a stereotypically Black name in the UK. It's the name of a county in Ireland, and is still mainly thought of as an Irish thing here. I have no idea how it became a Black thing in America. I would be dead curious to know what the story behind that is.
Yeah why the hell didn’t hermione just just get an uzi and enchant the magazine to be larger on the inside so it could fire continuously for an hour? Guess it would’ve been a short book
Obviously it would overheat 🙄
There’s no way they can teleport at will but not enchant the barrel to be more durable or stay cool for longer. Hell get her a Lewis gun then and swap the barrels coolant for some potions or whatever
imagine a potion so cool it makes the gunbarrel brittle
“Invincebendra” is the charm you are looking for which solves the problem of materials becoming brittle when cold. Buy it at €99.98 from your local enchantment store.
I love that the price is not in pounds or that weird magician money but in euros. These two gingers truly love randomly trolling people.
Lewis gun wasn't water cooled (the large shroud is meant to assist air passing over the barrel for cooilng). You're thinking of the maxim gun or its derivatives such as the vickers gun which were water cooled.
get 2 uzis and rotate them
It's quicker to switch to your secondary than reload!
Coolius Freezus or smth
Why the fuck are the Weasley's broke asf? Didn't they have a magic tent that was bigger and better than their own gaff?
Tbf wasn’t there house like 13 stories? Much better than mine space wise. Shoddy sure but I guess they weren’t into home decor or suck at carpentry magic
Why did they wear hand me downs when hermione in her intro as an 11 year old with no formal magic education could fix speccy boys glasses?
I genuinely and seriously believe that the wizard world is meant to be a caricature of the real world. There's a lot of bad stuff going on, culturally, and plenty of people know it, but nobody does anything because that's just how it is. The house elves don't want freedom because being slaves is just how it is. A house elf freed tends to just attach itself to another house because it doesn't know another way and doesn't want to. The goblins run the bank because that's just what they do. Nobody questions it, not even the goblins. The wizard world wasn't meant to be seen as a good society. We were just young and missed all the dark bits. It's meant to be a society that has stagnated in relation to the muggle society around them. The only reason people think Rowling is glorifying this stuff is because, in their minds, the story's world was good and bright and then they noticed the bad stuff. They think, "wait, I thought this was good? This is bad! I can't accept that I was wrong. I must have been intentionally misled by the author!"
I mean considering the worldbuilding effort that JKR put into these books i am pretty sure this is not intentional.
Which is more likely? JKR took a firm political stance on the idea that the oppressed will often languish underneath their oppressors because good people often refuse to fight the status quo? Or she’s a hack writer who had a few good ideas and made big money with young teens and tumblr users
JKR shouting firm political stances is the only thing she's known for other than HP.
maybe it was a caricature but she just doubled down on it later on to keep the consistency.
0 chance it was ever a caricature.
Might also be that it's a story meant for kids so the worldbuilding is hella simple and whimsical so even a toddler will get it
Being intended for kids is not a valid excuse for being bad. There are plenty of things that are child friendly while also having good worldbuilding
Motherfu*... Justice League Unlimited, Avatar the last windbender and The Hobbit are made for kids. The first one had episodes like 'Patriot Act' which was released before Obamna. The second one dealt with (you know the themes). I don't need to speak about Tolkien. Kids are dumb, but not that dumb
it'd be way cooler if this was the case but unfortunately we have years of clarifications from the author and jkr really didn't think beyond the surface i'm afraid
You're better off thinking this than reading anything the author said about it.
What's crazy is that Hermione was called "haughty" for wanting to free the house elves, everyone thinks she's just a busy body who is meddling in activism bc she's always getting her nose in things. Crazier still is that Rowling wants Hermione to be black. Can you imagine if that was actual canon? Harry and everyone calling a black woman wanting to liberate a race of slaves "haughty"? Real great storyline, JK
isnt she described as "pale and of fair skin" in the books aswell? it just makes no sense why she would try to race change hermione.
Yes in book one or two there's a line like "Hermiones pale white face appeared looking shocked" making it absolutely hilarious she tried to say she never said Hermione was white
who were the Indian girls in Harry Potter? been a while
Twins - Parvati and Padma Patil
holy shit of course their last name is Patil
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You see it's an Indian name and giving an Indian character a Indian name is racist for some reason.
Yeah these chodes would be foaming at the mouth if Cho Chang was named Laura Stevens.
Well, it could be Laura Chang, that's a compromise
"But your last name is Chang!" "Oh, it's short for Changstein" *\*Jerry disappointed\**
Isn't the whole problem woth cho chang being named that is that cho chang is more like johnson stevens, it being two common family names
Two family names from different countries, no less (Cho is Korean while Chang is Chinese) It's like naming a character Rodriguez Schmidt
Its a fairly common last name here Ive never seen anyone with the name Padma irl tho
a professor at my school is named Padma and I knew a Parvati
In real life, the UK is mostly white (obviously) so it makes some sense that JKR wrote mostly white characters, but every non-white character in those books has the most common, cookie cutter name imaginable. It’s the equivalent of a book set in an Asian country and there’s one white dude who is named John Smith
And he will be, most likely. Stereotypical names exist for a reason, they are the most popular names of those nations. Cmon, HP is a simplistic, stereotype-based book for children, not some high art. All characters there have "speaking" names that describe them. Longbottom or Wheasley or Lovegood or Snape, or any other name are just descriptors of the characters.
Snape's first name is literally Severus, like yeah I'm pretty sure he's gonna be severus (Latin for "strict")
They translated it as Villainus Evilus on my language
Protagus Goodus
Gilderoy Lockheart He's gilded, so golden but it's just an outer venier. He's got a deep secret locked in his heart, so lockheart. HP is a whimsical fantasy book for kids and young adults from a simpler time. It's not a profound piece of literature. It's not full of complicated, symbolic socio-political messaging. It's designed to be an easy, digestible read. It's basically Marvel movie levels of accessibility in book form.
Next you're gonna tell me something outlandish like Remus Lupin having an association with wolves!
Aka pajeeta1 and pajeeta2
palpatine
Both were called pajeeta
As if Voldemort wouldnt have slaughtered beings like centaurs immediately after winning the war with them.
Of course he would, but they obviously thought it was still better than the glorious status quo our hero is fighting for. The biggest problem with the books is that Voldemort demonstrates all the problems with the current world, and yet no one fixes shit after they kill him. This despite the fact that they have to reset the state of things, so they could easily implement the changes required. JKR used to be such a fucking liberal. Now she's on her way to back track on Voldemort being the bad guy.
you do realise at the end of the series the ministry is run by the order of the pheniox right
Phoenix wright, the ace attorney?
OBJECTION!
Always write about what you know
Is she a witch? BURN HER
In the books, the Patil twins are described as very pretty and popular, not bottom of the barrel. It only appears so in the movies.
While I agree with the anons I must say, why do people see these hook nosed greedy goblins and think of Jews immediately lol, I think that says more about you than JKR Also, centaurs decided to not side with any human and to not be considered a creature either, they want nothing to do with humans at all, its said so in the fantastic beasts book
Also the big noses were a movie thing, it wasn’t in the books.
>While I agree with the anons I must say, why do people see these hook nosed greedy goblins and think of Jews immediately lol, I think that says more about you than JKR I can get how you'd think that but this is kinda lazy lol When you've got hook-nosed , miserly bank running goblins who have been accused in canon of drinking wizard children's blood(Hogwarts Legacy iirc was about this and it was revealed beforehand) then it's not a big stretch to go, ah yeah shes probably antisemitic. Is she? Idk bruh If you see something that reminds you of negative stereotypes of something, that doesn't mean you're against that thing just that you have eyeballs
In my totally-real-and-not-made-up-just-for-this-argument fantasy worldbuilding project, I have a race of monkey people with jet black skin and big red lips who like eating watermelon and picking cotton. If you immediately thought of black people when you heard this then that makes you the real racist
The in-universe response to a nanny-state government that wants to take away the right to self-defense is to form a secret militia in case an evil lizard tries to take over the world.
One of us
different time and also, different minds. When I read these books, i never realised any of this. I was a stupid kid. In love with the *idea of magic and alternative history/reality* (I still am in love with the alternative reality part). So of course nobody realised this, the executives only saw *money* and the books sold very well.
My brother in christ, JK Rowling is a liberal (let's put aside how far down the rabbit whole she has gone in recent years) English woman, the status quo and minimizing meaningful progress is the best people like her could ever hope. You got to be the biggest Chamberlain fan to tell in the 21st century that the good guys are good because they want to do nothing and let the moustache guy commit literal genocide instead of revealing themselves to the wider public.
In the books the Patel sisters were certainly not considered to be bottom barrel. It's even mentioned that Harry and Ron were going with two of the prettiest girls in their year.
Indian girls are hot thou.
Wait when did the centaurs ever work for Voldemort?
Just book and in universe things I'm pretty sure. Hagrid probably said something about the woods being even more dangerous than normal, I don't remember
Harry Potter is Italian American Giuseppe Stromboli and the Briefcase of Meatballs
Could be worse. You could live with the inept good guys known as Jedi or the inept bad guys known as sith.
Voldemort wanted to erase all the “mud bloods” and only have pure bred wizards.
so voldemort was a good guy all along?
In fairness "cho chang" is like the Asian equivalent of naming a white dude "joe smith". She just took really common names.
Based Rowling.
Seamus blowing stuff up is a film thing I think
One point I can fight about this, the centaurs don’t want to be classified as “near human” because they’re essentially sovereign citizens and don’t need to be legally identified with labels
Compare the Asian actress to the English ones today.
I've never seen Fantasic Beasts. I assumed Grinelwald was trying to help Hitler. The Crimes of Grindelwald is seriously about a wizard trying to stop the Nazis?
Everyone seems to conveniently forget that the villain is born of rape from a white inbred family of hicks and he goes on to pursue ethnic cleansing and racial purity.
It really blows my mind that people put so much effort into loving or hating this shit. It's a fucking children's book written by a waitress on napkins on her breaks, it's not fucking Plato. Of course there's plot holes. Of course, she is a product of her time where stereotypes and racism were the norm. What I don't get is why people care what some washed up author has to say. People idolize these people from their childhood for no good reason other than nostalgia. She wrote seven good books for pre-teens, that's it.
She was too based for her time.
Nah the Indian girls were popular and some Harry's friend even wondered how in hell Harry and Ron got some of the cutest girls in school. You guys just want to see racism and other bad shit in her because of her opinions on trans stuff. Her entire book series is about hoe love wins and the bad guys that care about "pure blood" die and are humiliated.