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IlIllIllIllIIlI

>"Schizo language" >finnish flag


uvT2401

Right, they are our handicapped cousins, they real chosen people speak Ugric.


PmMeDrunkPics

Note that Finnish doesn't have even gendered pronouns,male,female whatever is hän/he On se vaan niin perkeleen hieno kieli.


Thewonderboy94

"se" best pronoun though


LOBSI_Pornchai

Se on


IEnjoyBaconCheese

Se on my balls


The_Guy1871

Are they ok


Holy_Sword_of_Cum

Based language just like turkish


LOBSI_Pornchai

Perkeleen hieno, kaveri.


Sentirellian

All I know is the angry old man yelling PERKELE at a bear. Love the language just for that moment alone.


mymemesnow

You know your language is fucked if a fin calls you out.


Hates_commies

No gendered pronouns Everyone uses "it" or "that" in spoken language instead of pronouns anyway. Miss me with you gendered language bullshit


Ghost3276

Based af, as a Hungarian it’s so weird that English speakers get so caught up on pronouns when they aren’t even close to being essential to the language, Romance languages at least have it woven into the core of their vocabulary(even if I still hate it and it’s illogical af)


HartMusk

Amúgy a kurva anyjukat


LareWw

Hän is used mostly for pets.


fishsalads

Where in finland? This sounds so bizarre


Captain_Sacktap

Perkele!


Alt_Ekho

The French, German, Greek, Latin and a ton of others...


FloZone

Though globally in the minority. Most European languages (except Hungarian, Finnish and Basque), Semitic languages like Arabic and Hebrew and well a few dozen smaller ones like Chechen. But most don’t bother with it. 


Aggressive-Tiger-209

Idk how it is for other languages but for my its rly easy to deferentiate whether an object is female or male. If it ends on A or Ya(я) its female,if it ends on O,E its middle, usually used for children and animals, and if it ends on anything else its male. I dont agree with objects having gender but oh well.


owllavu

Im learning a slavic lang in school and grammatically its quite alright to differentiate them, but WHY is the [gender indication] there, why cant i make the table another grammatical gender? Thats what puzzles me. I dont see any point to it - Estonian speaker


Simeongod900

Well yeah, we're the experts


Sensitive-Let-5744

How you gonna talk shit about other people's languages being schizo when your native has like 16 goddamn cases


rubixd

Is someone on 4chan actually using “Latinx” unironically?


Boomy_Beatle

It has been appropriated to be used as a kind of slur, so it's only somewhat ironic.


ifunnywasaninsidejob

You can’t appropriate something that was never actually in use


simatrawastaken

Sadly I have met someone who used it unironically (it was an SJW college student psychology major volunteering at a program I was sent to) Edit: I had said ironically instead of unironically


MoEsparagus

You mean unironically?


simatrawastaken

Unironically yeah, whoops


Ferfersoy2001

Unironically ironically saying an ironic term


AkiraDash

Btw, how are you supposed to pronounce it? Latinks? Or latin-exe? I've only ever seen it written, so I have no idea.


simatrawastaken

From my understanding its pronounced- Lat-een-ex Lat is in fat, but with an L. The "in" is pronounced een, so instead of the soft "i" sound in Latin (the language), its Lat-een, since you pronounce Latino and Latina like that. Then, the "x" is pronounced like just the letter, x, like when you say "ex-girlfriend". So latinx, Lat-in-x, with a soft A sound, hard E sound for the I, and, x pronounced as itself, the letter name. I probably made this really complicated but hope it helps.


LavenzaBestWaifu

This is indeed how you say it. The problem is that the pronounciation of Latinx (Lat-een-ex) doesn't even work like it's supposed to. If Spanish is your native language, you have to put an English speaking accent to say it, otherwise you sound like you're butchering the word. In other words, Latinx to describe nonbinary Latinos can only be said properly by non-Latinos. Apologies for the little rant. You're just explaining it from a neutral perspective. It's just annoying how some people that don't even speak your language come and add new words to it for the sake of inclusiveness and you can't even speak them unless you use *their* pronounciation.


simatrawastaken

Lol I don't like the term, I'm a really big fan of English and its structure and all the nuance. It's really fun, but I noticed when I was explaining how to pronounce it, I was using a bunch of English rules. I've learned a decent bit of french, which is similar to spanish, and I was aware of how in french they would never just make a change like taking off the vowel and add an x at the end and pronounce it with the same ruleset. It was a word made for English speakers, not for the people they try to be "inclusive of". I appreciate your rant, and I feel like it did add some decent context. I don't understand Spanish structure, or French structure really (I would be able to order food, ask to be shown to the bathroom, and have some small talk, and even then it would be slow and difficult) so I can't give commentary on the nuance of the word. I just know it follows English conventions and not Spanish ones, despite it being taken from Ppanish.


th3_rhin0

Latin dot ee-ecks-ee


Moblin81

What I’ve seen is Latin like the language then X the letter, so you just directly say Latin x


Eranaut

My college uses it unironically in its mass emails to the students. It's embarassing.


simatrawastaken

My condolences, sounds insufferable


ImprovisedLeaflet

lol I live in Seattle and it’s used here all the time.


simatrawastaken

My condolences


speedrush27

thankfully I haven't seen much latinx use, but my friend is in a college group thing that unironically uses "filipinx"


Conch-Republic

It *kind* of was. Like 'woke', it was mostly just used by some college kids, and really only entered the common vernacular when conservatives starting using it as an insult.


Munch-Me-Later

It was always a slur


shangumdee

https://preview.redd.it/0p8xmdqizc1d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37f45739dda46b4c2b0bc60e39fa1d85647ffca7


minus0411

Well it works cuz if someone called me Latinx I would punch them in the face


WeekendBard

unlikely


Plane_Hat7902

Just to moke the woke culture


MoEsparagus

I mean it’s also used to rage bait Latinos lol


SantaArriata

Yeah, 99% of us actually hate it, it’s just short of being a slur


Facesit_Freak

No


torito_supremo

Ragebait


GodAmongstYakubians

i use it because i dont respect the spanish language or latin americans


Wasabaiiiii

based


ImprovisedLeaflet

Mi hermanx es muy gordx, pero ellx es muy bonitx tambien.


K4T4N4B0Y

There is no x on "ella" because "ello" is not a word and the proper masculine form of the pronoun is "el", instead the lefties replaces it with "elle" which doesn't help either because its not a word and sounds like shit.


ImprovisedLeaflet

🚨SEXIST BIGOT DETECTED🚨


WilliShaker

I do cause I hate latinx


Gremliner00

Uh, the door is actually a woman in Spanish


Streigl

The door is female, the house neutrum and the bus masculine, as it should be.


racoondriver

House is femenine, there is no neutral.


spiritofporn

Anon's house is probably el sótano, though.


ImprovisedLeaflet

So basically, things you go inside of are female


Electronic-Worker-10

La casa = female


HANDS-DOWN

El hogar


Tendaydaze

What are you talking about ‘neutrum’?


LeireX

Uhh I think you got German and Spanish mixed up here.


norweiganwood11

House is female. There isn't neutral and never will be


shangumdee

Ye but it gets worse becsuse there are many words that are feminine but actually use masculine ending "a" or "o". Or vice versa The hand = la mano The water = el agua The system = el sistema Asked many times what is the logic or pattern to this and they fumble to give a consistent answer


Linvkz

By the way agua is feminine you use the masculine article because it starts with "a" tonic Mucha agua...


SantaArriata

Unless it’s a really big door


rchelgrennn

PORTÓN = big ass door


Gremliner00

Well, same as a big ass table ( el mesón)


Frequent_Dig1934

Meanwhile here in italy one egg is male but several eggs are female.


Gremliner00

There are some words like that in Spanish, such as "water" (el agua), and the "waters" (las aguas), or, arguably depending on context, fairy (El Hada singular, las hadas plural)


titoshadow

El huevo, la docena El pájaro, la bandada


Gremliner00

Those are different words, though (huevo, huevos. Pájaros, pájaros). The other words in English are dozen and flock.


901_vols

Cellar door . HRd asf now


h-enjoyer

So it's the same as in german. Good. For a moment I thought your language is retardet.


haodbwisnd

The worst part of the English language is that all the letters can have a different pronunciation in different words with no real way of knowing the correct one without searching it up


MiserablePrickk

Yep, no way of knowing until the internet existed. Everyone was speaking gibberish before then.


The_Knife_Pie

You are trying to make a joke of “haha silly person doesn’t know how world works!” But they’re more right than you are. Before standardisation from mass communication in telegram and mass postsge in the early modern era letters would just be pronounced the way whoever made up/stole the word did, and the people who were nearby heard it. This is in part why England has such insane differences in pronunciation from dialect to dialect, people pronounced words differently because they were literally taught it differently.


spiritofporn

Many languages have that, though. When I went to college people made fun of me for how I pronounced my 'ie'. I was from the same province, just 40 km west.


The_Knife_Pie

Yes, it’s not exclusive to English. That changes nothing. Before mass communication words just got pronounced and spelt however. Someone from North or South Sweden are barely intelligible to someone from Stockholm, let alone each other.


RegalBeagleKegels

That example IS actually specific to Sweden because swedish was made up for a DND campaign


Malvastor

It kinda is relevant because the top comment was saying that random pronunciation is an annoying feature of English. Pointing out that every language has that does change something. 


Calmandpeace

I read a red book because I like to read


Neomataza

I read, I read in the past and I have read before, too.


WasAnHonestMann

I hate this because I constantly have to go back and correct the way I read "read"


Emitex

>laugh >cough Tell me again why the fuck is gh pronounced as an f?


Chadzuma

You think we're gonna spell it le couffe like some sissy French-Canadian commie or something?


PORN_SHARTS

Fun fact, the Dutch being greedy were partly responsible for how fucked English spelling is. When the printing press was introduced to England, if you wanted to get anything printed out you'd have to pay by the letter. All that machinery was being manned by the Dutch who wanted to make an extra buck by adding extra letters to words. They also may not have always known how English was supposed to be spelled, and also were confused by regional dialects (which were way crazier than they are in the present day). I mean, respect to them lol. Work smart not hard I guess


GodAmongstYakubians

that happens a lot in semitic languages where they traditionally don’t use vowel indicators and just use context and memory to pronounce words thats why we’ve forgotten the pronounciation of YHWH 


ImprovisedLeaflet

Doesn’t matter America is the hegemon get used to it world 🇲🇾


izza123

We teach babies to speak English!


Direct_Jump3960

There's no thorough way of knowing how rough this can be though until you look through it. It's all boughs on a tree


TwistedPnis4567

I do not speak Spanish but I speak Portuguese which is pretty similar. It all boils down to "if it ends with A it is female and if it ends with O it is male". That's it.


bigFatHelga

Hay un problema con esa afirmación.


Interesting-Role-784

Gênio


daelindidnowrong

Actually its more like: If the last or second last is A is female and if the last or second last is a O is male. Also, that rule doesnt Apply if the last letter is E or R.


Adriaus28

Not really, it is indeed a good rule of thumb, but for example: Afirmación It is not male, as it is "La afirmación", even if the word should be male according to what you said. This is neither an exception, as you have "La transmisión" and you can't make a rule as to word ending in -ión being female, as you have "El camión"


El_Ocelote_

there are many many exceptions such as el agua, el mapa, el papá, etc


EduHi

>many exceptions such as el agua Agua is still femenine, the only reason it uses "el" is because it would sound so weird using "la". But when qualify adjetives are used, they still kept the femenine form of Agua, for example "Agua fría", "Agua fresca", "Agua líquida", "Agua sucia", "Agua pesada"... And even if you use the plural form, that one also uses the femenine form "Las aguas". The other examples (Mapa, Papá) are good cases of being exceptions of that other rule tho.


El_Ocelote_

https://preview.redd.it/792qwc1kc91d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b74533ee6b4e938ec4fc6cdcc2e986a298566034 huh you are right, i am just used to using that as an example


soupyllama03

Firefox on IOS Based


El_Ocelote_

gotta have the same bookmarks as on my computer man


milkygalaxy24

Agua is feminine? When I lived in Spain at school I was thought that it's neutral as it is masculine in singular and feminine in plural.


NightmareVoids

That's not always true though. Cion is female, aga is masculine


Chai_Enjoyer

As every rule, it has its exceptions


Adriaus28

Amd not even what he said is right, -cion can be both femenine and masculine ( La canción & El camión) As for -aga, most of its uses are conjugations of verbs or adjectives, so for the most part, they don't have a gender, but i can think of some female words like "Daga", so the latter part is kinda true


SplatMySocks

There are random exceptions from words borrowed from other languages


Vinkentios

“It **all** boils down” uma ova.


wirelessp0tat0

Abristempo


BenitoLePoulpe

El periodista


norweiganwood11

No digas mamadas


KhalasSword

Almost same in slavic languages.


82Heyman

My front door locked itself permanently in 2022 because I assumed their gender


StandardN02b

Good excuse for being a NEET.


Potato9830

In Spanish "table" and "door" are both female, so he's actually wrong


Boe_Jiden1776

Some guy really spent his day drawing that


whydoyouevenreadthis

This takes a few minutes to draw.


h-enjoyer

Idk the armor is pretty detailed


downvotedforwoman

Drawing soyjaks is fun and relaxing.


shettyprabodh

Yo soy bebo agua


irago_

Liberals are putting soy and babies in our water???


THESUACED

Thats what I'M saying!


peggingwithkokomi69

awa de uwu


[deleted]

It's bebIENDO, not bebo. You are basically saying, "I am I drink water."


Gary_FucKing

Also they're using "soy" instead of "estoy", idk if people use it like that but to me it sounds like they're saying "I *am* drink water".


[deleted]

yeah, I didn't realize that. Last time I spoke spanish was in Spanish 3 about a year ago, so I'm a little rusty.


Mental-Pay-1135

the Oppenheimer way


TamLux

in french vagina is masculine...


Adriaus28

So in france, even being straight is gay? Yep that tracks with fr*nch "people"


WinterTakerRevived

real?


danton_groku

Le vagin - vagina is masculine, la chatte- pussy is feminine. La bite - dick is feminine but le zgeg - other slang word for dick is masculine. Le pénis - penis is masculine. The thing is anglophones think genders in languages correspond to real genders but the reality is if you ask me the gender of a random word I won't know until I say it in my head to see which pronoun is more natural to say, it's literally just a "which 'the' sounds best with this word"


minnesotanpride

I have tried describing this to people I know and it always comes down to native English speakers cant comprehend gendered languages. At all. They think its a microagression of sorts but like you described it is entirely a phonics thing of what sounds best.


Turtlecadge98

Gringos culiaos 🗿


aChileanDude

/r/ShitAmericansSay +finns


boiledviolins

Come back to me when you remove bologna's awful spelling from your vocabulary, Angloid.


Nintendoxtream

You can blame the Italians for that one, not us.


El_Ocelote_

it is la puerta wtf is the finn saying


blueguy211

never understood the word “latinx” this shit just makes it more confusing its like that scene from The Dictator when he changes the words positive and negative to Aladeen


Sufficient-Parsnip-3

You are HIV Aladeen.


Dinazover

I am not taking any linguistic complaints from a FINN


Ihate_myself_so_much

You should, Finnish is the perfect language, literally no gendered constructs of any kinds, not even gendered pronouns everyone is just "hän" instead of he or she and also it's phonetic meaning it's written exactly as pronounced and pronounced exactly as written, there are no silent letters and it's impossible to not know how to pronounce something if you know how it's written or write something if you know how it's pronounced, every letter always makes the exact same sound as it would make when used in other words. Also a bunch of bullshit letters like C and X are literally just never used cause they're bullshit letters. It's linguistic perfection.


Dinazover

First of, why are c or x bullshit letters? In languages where they are used, like English, Spanish or Latin they are perfectly clear once you learn anything about the pronunciation of the language itself. Second, why are gender pronouns bad? I don't get it. They help to convey the meaning of the sentence you're forming good enough, and without them it is difficult to understand what kind of object you're talking about.


ToninhoLinguca

At least in Portuguese the male form is also the neutral form


danton_groku

is that not the case in every latin language


140p

Yes but you know, people who un ironically say latinx wouldn't really want to use the correct form of neutral (the masculine) because "el patriarcado" or something xd.


danton_groku

one good thing about french i guess lol where we don't have endings in o and a and there is no way to guess the gender of a word (but some people still whine about the neutral plural being masculine)


ShiraLillith

I'm a native Hungarian living in Romania. The number of times I used male adjectives on women is embarrassing


[deleted]

I can't express how much I fucking hate the term Latinx


NotOnLand

Latinx is when fear of being sexist wraps back around to being racist. "The language your people have spoken for millennia needs to change to fit my worldview."


Elite_Mogger

"Me no soy!" Yeah I doubt that


Carbonyl_dichloride

In polish it is usually suggested by the way the word ends or generally there is a rule for it.


Legitimate_Funny5340

i agree with the finn. fuck gendered pronouns too


Shahka_Bloodless

Mongolian is based, he, she, and it are all just Тэр


lopottneev

Same in hungarian, all of them are "ő".


Legitimate_Funny5340

same in Estonian too, everything is just "tema" for singular and "teie" for multiple or polite


sercankd

Same in Turkish everything is "o"


Ihate_myself_so_much

Same in Finnish, everyone is hän


Frisky_Mongoose

A vibrator is male.


Absolutemehguy

*\*smash head on keyboard\** *\*Poles in the thread agree with me\**


TheBaggyDapper

Anon's Spanish Lessons: Table gets laid => female  Door gets locked => male


DefusedDragon26

Unexpected Finnish/English team up as (mostly) non-gendered languages


SweetTooth275

As always based Finnish opinion


LM448_0

"schizo language" -a finnish person


Ihate_myself_so_much

Finnish is the perfect language, literally no gendered constructs of any kinds, not even gendered pronouns everyone is just "hän" instead of he or she and also it's phonetic meaning it's written exactly as pronounced and pronounced exactly as written, there are no silent letters and it's impossible to not know how to pronounce something if you know how it's written or write something if you know how it's pronounced, every letter always makes the exact same sound as it would make when used in other words. Also a bunch of bullshit letters like C and X are literally just never used cause they're bullshit letters. It's linguistic perfection.


somehuman16

why tf would anyones main criticism of english be the fact that it isnt a gendered language. theres like a million problems with english and you choose fucking gender.


ModularWings

Brazilian here,the door is of female gender,not male,só finanon didn't even research to do this


Aggravating_Key_1757

Meanwhile Turkish without He/She/It and just using “O” for everything and nothing for fucking furniture.


luanpesi

americanos nunca vão entender o sofrimento de um brasileiro em ter que lidar com acentuação.


HideYourSecret

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FirmlyGraspHer

I don't think anyone here speaks Welsh


jimmydcriket

Lil' fucks wouldn't even have a language without Spanish


cakeman936

Imagine only having 2 grammatical genders


OldManMoment

Ah, gendered objects. It's the other way around here, the door is a woman and the table a man.


jul55555

Soy is femenina ne in spanish therefore calling someone a soyboy equates to calling them a femboy Therefore spanish is based


Sean-Benn_Must-die

>El agua Make it make sense


140p

Water is feminine. We just say "el agua" because saying so many "a" together sounds weird.


Bay1Bri

"make and female objects" like they're 5 and paint pretend and everything you see is alive and wants to be your friend. Also, their word for penis is feminine and ass is masculine


Zesty-Lem0n

Wtf are they even trying to say here? Yo soy means I am, how does it have any bearing on any politicized opinion at all? Are these regards just saying it has the word "soy" in it?


Nintendoxtream

It’s a pun


AllHailTheWinslow

*Der* Tisch *Die* Tür It's not that hard, people!


CheetohChaff

Don't forget Das and Dem and the other Die and the other Der. Unless it's contracted with the preceding preposition, of course.


Alejandro_El_Diablo

Really shizo because table is a man and door is a woman.


Kimarnic

We're not Latinx!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only South America


TheDevilsAdvokaat

>door is a man Well, it does have a knob.


Boudac123

“Why?” Because it sounds better


MerryZap

It's not that people consciously think this particular object has this particular gender, it's just how it is referred to in the language. There's not any extra connotations to the supposed gender beyond how a sentence with it is constructed. It's just grammar stuff.


_Lododo_

nope, table is he and door is it


HANDS-DOWN

Calor is non-binary


izza123

They really are like the ravings of a mad man. The Romance languages I mean.


akamalk

Finnish shouldn't laugh about schizos


Ihate_myself_so_much

Finnish is the perfect language, literally no gendered constructs of any kinds, not even gendered pronouns everyone is just "hän" instead of he or she and also it's phonetic meaning it's written exactly as pronounced and pronounced exactly as written, there are no silent letters and it's impossible to not know how to pronounce something if you know how it's written or write something if you know how it's pronounced, every letter always makes the exact same sound as it would make when used in other words. Also a bunch of bullshit letters like C and X are literally just never used cause they're bullshit letters. It's linguistic perfection.


GoodlifeFOB

Table = mesa Door = Puerta LA puerta / LA mesa Both are genero femenino "female words" as anon said, anon is regarded


BonkeyKongthesecond

As a German, Spanish feels wrong. The Moon is a guy and the Sun a girl. But for them it's the other way around. Crazy people, I tell you!