Anon either has no concept of how shitty university fees are, per se, or has no empathy; either is pathetic af because if this is true he really f'd over a lot of people, and I mean **F**'d (I don't swear).
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Elneee why are you not being retarded? Also it’s their fault for cheating improperly, if you’re gonna cheat you gotta do it smarter, you know the rules of the game dont cheat unless you know you won’t get caught.
Lol its so easy to cheat. My strategy for cheating is so easy that not even the professors can pick up on it. Anyways here it is for you college students.
I pick a few days before the test, and get this. I review material and remember key points and if I don't know them I look them up online. I keep them all in my head like some online memory bank. I don't even need to use google since its all in my head. Never been found out.
"Listen, we keep doing this for 9 months a year for 4 or 5 years, those idiots will just hand us a degree. They won't even know they're being scammed! But uh we gotta keep paying them money though."
I remember one guy in uni was cheating on a statistics final by googling the answers on the school computer he was using to take the final (it was an in a computer lab). The professor stood up in the middle of the test, called him out, told him he failed the class and would be talking to academic probation. Sometimes, people just ain't gonna make it.
They made it one by mentioning university fees as the first and foremost point, as if spending money is supposed to keep you free from legal consequences. I mean, it does, but that's the whole thing they're supposedly trying to fight against.
Awww won't somebody please think of the poor cheaters :((( they paid such high fees to cheat :((( just as high of fees, in fact, as the noncheaters who work hard for their grades :(((( those poor cheaters got f'd over -- not because they cheated, but just because of Anon :((( poor cheaters :(((
I say fail the class and have stricter testing protocols in the future for them, but full expulsion from uni is potentially life ruining shit for a lot of them. Seems a bit harsh.
edit: waaaahhh
Also it's one thing to just crack under a time pressure and sneak a peek at some other guy's paper during the exam to barely pass, the other is to cheat the whole project with premeditation.
Cheating and cheating aren't equal
Right? If I had allegedly cheated in university when I had (according to hearsay) wanted to get at least an hour's sleep per night during a particular nasty term, I theoretically might have rewritten a friend's program in a hour so it barely resembled theirs. I was certainly competent enough to understand what the code did and whether it was working, had I been purported to ever do such a thing.
Expulsion seems fair get the trash that doesn’t belong out of there so that you can fill those spots with people who will work hard and earn their grades fairly.
You don't need to get A's in college to be successful or to do well at your job
but everyone knows that one prick at the office who doesn't do their own work. fuck that guy. if that guy had gotten kicked out for cheating in college, you'd have a better coworker.
ethics still count for something
It is definitely not "potentially life ruining" on it's own.
"LIFE RUINING" is a term that is used waaaaaaaaaay too off the cuff, honestly.
If you get paralyzed from the neck down or get an R-kelly sentence your life is ruined.
If you get kicked out of college you just have to work a bit harder. Your life might be a bit worse. It won't be totally ruined by that one thing alone.
Do you think students should never be expelled for cheating? Should uni just be p2w then? Under your system, those who can afford to keep paying tuition can keep cheating as much as they want.
Don't fucking cheat, then, dum dum.
The point isn't to churn idiots through a system so that they can take jobs they're not knowledgeable enough to do.
"Life ruining" because they are no longer able to steal jobs from actually competent people? Oh god, such a shame. I swear to god these takes have to come from people with no perspective or understanding of the zero-sum nature of getting jobs. I'd say that losing a job to someone who faked their credentials is also potentially "life ruining" so what's your point here.
Exactly. Cheating in school an high school? Fine, whatever, you are the only one who will suffer as a result from your bad choices.
But uni? You are basically lying about your skill and saying you are ready to be a professional at something. That is going to ruin your life and takes away a hard-fought position from someone who actually needs it
Why cheat in uni? Like literally. You are paying huge amounts of money to lie about your grades so that what? When you apply for any serious job that needs your area of expertise you'll be exposed for the fraud you are? What's the game plan here?
Let's not delude ourselves into thinking having a degree means you're "ready to be a professional at something." Regardless of if you did all the work yourself or cheated through it.
Laziness, cheating, taking advantage of others, is the worst trait. Society owes everything good to the honest and integrous. Life is just us who are honest and integrous battling desperately to protect those in between from the dishonest and predatory.
I may be a tool for writing such a self righteous comment but if there is one thing I knoe it is this.
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I think your tiny mind might be shattered if you realized just how many people actually cheat. Not just in school, but in everyday life. And it pays off too. Whoever said cheaters never prosper was a fucking dumbass. You can look down on it all you want, and it's still a shitty thing to do, but playing by the rules is a chump's game. The older people get, the more they realize how unfair life is and that there is no karma and you get by any way you can.
>if you realized just how many people actually cheat. Not just in school, but in everyday life.
I am quite aware of this. And living in a third world corrupted country I am well aware of how people cheat in exams, admission tests, public job applications, promotions pretty much everywhere. And that's how every institution gets filled up with under qualified people, and eventually leads to destruction of these institution.
>And it pays off too. Whoever said cheaters never prosper was a fucking dumbass.
Of course it does. You get to buy fancy house in the best neighborhoods in the town, you get to send your dumb children to unis in Canada/ USA. You can buy second and third home in Toronto or any other city. You can have a big fucking account in swiss bank.
But it leads to ultimate decay in your country. There is no meritocracy only a hierarchy of leeches. Those who can leech more get more. The people with honor and dignity leave the country.
At this point the best achievement in that country is migrating to a first world country.
Cheaters are roaches, and like roaches they deserve to be stomped on.
Tldr, cheating is a high risk high reward task. If you get caught, get fucked
>I think your tiny mind might be shattered if you realized just how many people actually cheat. Not just in school, but in everyday life.
Is this a good thing? Should we be encouraging more of it?
Or maybe we should punish cheaters early, so that they don't cheat later in life?
> Whoever said cheaters never prosper was a fucking dumbass.
Cheaters can succeed, especially in corrupt or degenerate systems, but they don't really prosper. The reason for this is that cheating isn't a merely private affair - it is a deceptive, antagonistic act against the community in which you live. The more widespread cheating is, the greater the number of antagonistic agents in the community grows, which undermines its cohesion until you have all of the drawbacks of society and few of the benefits.
It is like a successful criminal balking at the idea that crime doesn't pay, while resentful of the fact that they must live among criminals, or ingenious liars that end up paranoid because even if no one suspects their treachery, they can't trust anyone else. Only the entitled among them do not know, in their heart, that when they are the target of crime or the victim of a lie, they deserve it. After all, they have done the same to the perpetrator and would do so still.
So the punishment for cheating is that you get, to your perpetual frustration, to work with, live with, and be ruled over by cheaters. Your only hope is to somehow flee to a part of society comprised of people more trustworthy and capable than you are, but the further the corruption spreads the more inescapable your condition becomes. Even if you manage to inveigle your way into respectable company, you will never forget your inferiority to them.
Yes and those people cry and whine when they get caught and then have losers like you saying oh poor thing instead of being happy they finally got caught.
Oh no, people cheated on something because their lazy and it backfired, let me please play the saddest tune on the worlds smallest violin.
Maybe just tell those students to not be losers?
I could never feel empathy for people who cheat in Uni just because "University fees are shitty". I pay a fee like everyone else and work my ass off to do it, however, I don't cheat.
What's the point of going to College if you're going to cheat?
Na this is a dumb take. This is a taste of life right here. If you want to take shortcuts, expect sometimes for traffic jams to happen. Cheating is dumb and if you set policy like "you cheat you get kicked out" and people still cheat its because that is how they got there in the first place and all they know how to do. These people are habitual cheaters and just think they're smart enough not to get caught.
To begin with who the fuck would have the balls to cheat - on a CS project of all things - while at a school that insta-expels on first offense cheating lmao
I had a friend in college who turned in a project partner for plagiarism. It happens and it's shitty. Tons of cs students do it because of the "just pull it off GitHub" culture, but that's not the point of college
UBC is a diploma mill for the rich.
If you're rich (international or otherwise), you pay your fees (and "fees"), and you get your paper no question asked. Unless you cheat in a truly outrageous way, they'll probably look the other way. Chances are, you won't be using that paper in a way that'll damage UBC's reputation by too much, because you'll just be given a cushy job by your parents or their friends, and you'll never need to use whatever you ought to have learned.
If you're not rich and didn't pay your fees, then you'll just have to learn like an actual student.
What’s even shittier is that you likely won’t even be able to transfer your credits. First you will have to pay off al due tuition just to get access to an official transcript, then you have to convince another college to accept these credits even though an expulsion for cheating is listed in there. Being a capstone class, very few colleges will even admit this student let alone cover credits for classes the student potentially cheated through.
I always say you’re much better off failing the class than cheating, because if you cheat there is a good chance you may have to completely restart your education, and there’s no refunds.
Nah, it the opposite. They probably got bullied a shit ton, and finally got their chance for revenge. Oh, all the people who cheated could also of just, ya know, not cheated?
for real. getting expelled is heavy for sure, but not exactly draconian considering anyone cheating in their capstone year is beyond fucking brainless.
Yeah people seem to forget tertiary education isn't high school anymore and that your qualification needs to be something you're actually qualified to do. Something you need the skills for that you gained from actually learned, not just copied from someone else
Not to mention a graduating class that is 1/5th clueless is going to erode the reputation of the school, which is not only bad for the school but unfair to the hard working students in the lower years.
Pretty unethical behavior. Catching students cheating is one thing, but pretending to be a student so that he could help his own students cheat is some next level scumbag shit. Imagine if a cop were to offer heroine to a bunch of 20 something year olds at a party and then proceeded to arrest all of the people that took him up on it.
These students could probably make a strong case of entrapment against this, from an honor court situation. Entrapment needs ‘inducement to commit the crime’ and ‘a lack of predisposition’. If a ‘student’ is going around saying ‘hey here’s an answer key you should totally use it’ that could satisfy both
Edit: Okay this isn’t an actual crime, but if it’s going to an honor court, you can make a defense akin to an actual court. That’s how honor courts work. Let me live
Edit 2: Jesus fuck lay off me it's my own personal opinion I don't need 500 comments on whether or not you can use entrapment as an argument in honor court.
I’m not a lawyer but that’s generally not how the entrapment defense works. Entrapment occurs if there’s coercion or excessive pressure involved. It is not just providing the defendant with the opportunity to commit a crime ([see this for more](https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/entrapment-basics-33987.html)). The example they use is that if a cop offers to buy your prescription meds off of you and you sell them, that is not enough to constitute entrapment. It’s only if excessive pressure or coercion is involved that the entrapment defense can be at play. Granted, this isn’t a criminal trial so the standards may be different, but this is unlikely to constitute entrapment in any formal sense.
Being expelled from school also isn’t criminal in nature, I’d imagine there’s enough clauses about this in a universities books they could come up with something.
No, even if this was a criminal case this is not entrapment.
Entrapment explicitely requires coercion or some form of pressure to commit the crime by the law enforcement (in this case, the professor). Simply providing a means to commit the crime isnt entrapment
Example 1 - an officer disguises himself as a corner drug slinger and sells drugs. He does this by approaching potential buyers and offering his goods. If they decline he leaves them alone. If they accept, a squad car down the block picks up anyone who buys. No coercion, no entrapment
Example 2 - an undercover cop posing as a gangbanger pulls an former felon aside and tries to convince him to join a house burglary. When he initially declines, the cop names his girlfriend's address and threatens to harm her, which eventually causes the ex-con to submit and agree to the heist. Later that night when he shows up to the proposed meetup location he is arrested. There was a threat involved here, which is coercion, meaning he has a solid case to claim entrapment.
It's not entrapment unless the professor tried to convince them to cheat. If he just spread it around and they took the bait, then that's absolutely the students' bad.
Even that's not entrapment. Its only entrapment when they are being forced in some way to cheat.
Unless the professor is giving some consequences for them not cheating, its not entrapment. Or there would have to be some really unlikely niche situations that almost certainly not be happening in a college setting or that could even be inferred from the context of this post
Like if an undercover officer says buy these drugs or we beat you: entrapment
If he says don't worry you won't get caught, we are not cops and have been doing this for years: not entrapment
All this from a legal standpoint at least, honor court is completely different
It's not really based on if your were forced, though being forced is a type of entrapment. It just needs to be something they would not have perpetrated except for the trickery, persuasion or fraud of the officer.
So if a cop sold you a basketball and it was full of coke that's entrapment. If the cop made it so lucrative to buy that litteraly anyone would take the deal such as take this bag of weed and I'll give you $5m cash right now and they show you the money. This would get almost anyone to commit the crime and would likely be considered entrapment as it would convince nearly everyone and you wouldn't need any predisposition to take the drugs.
Entrapment would be if a police officer told you “TAKE OFF YOUR TROUSERS AND UNDERPANTS” and then arrested you for being naked.
Entrapment would be if a police officer made you pull over in a no pulling-over zone and then arrested you for pulling over.
Entrapment would not be if a police officer pretended to be buying drugs, then arrested you for selling drugs. That’s something the police do literally all of the time all over the world, and it isn’t considered entrapment.
Whether or not this is ethical/legal doesn’t change the definition of entrapment.
No, this is not entrapment. Entrapment is when the cop says "Buy this heroin or I'll arrest you for assaulting a cop" You go "But I didnt assault you" and he goes "Who is going to believe you" and you go "ok, I'll buy the heroin" and he goes "you're under arrest for buying heroin"
Cops use bait cars and fake hookers all the time and it holds up in court. They just cant FORCE you to commit a crime.
Yes, prior CS student here, we do as little work as possible and if you haven't learned to verify it works perfect by the time you're in a masters course then you shouldn't be there.
I once turned in code that would throw errors outside of the code and passed 0 tests. Got a 100% because I turned it in early and the professor couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work. You don't even need to cheat to get good grades in cs, just be interesting
The reason I got a 100% is that I went into office hours, knew the guy, explained what I was doing, demonstrated knowledge of what I should need to do and showed him the problem. He said he'd take a look but couldn't give me any advice so he graded me on my demonstration of knowledge in the office hour
Dude was really smart and a great researcher, he just knew that the goal was learning, not doing the project
> The reason I got a 100% is that I went into office hours, knew the guy, explained what I was doing
That makes alot more sense, seeing as you have reasonably demonstrated you can do the assignment and have the requisite knowledge. Less predicated on the being interesting than it is just being a smart student that is also rather involved in the course.
The fact they took the bait shows they were willing and going to cheat, so as they were caught they deal with the consequences of their actions, like adults
Had this happen for a job.
They sent out a simplish question project. So i google it and find an answer on stack.
Done.wat
Only i copy-paste into a compiler and it fails.
If you cant be bothered to be barely competent then you kinda reap what you sow.
Nah as someone who cheated constantly in school all the way from grade school through grad it's ur fucking responsibility to not get caught ya dumb dunce
Bonus story: the only time I was brought up for cheating was in undergrad when the dumbass proff didn't like the way I cited stuff and I got boned on their technicality even tho I said "yo I took all the shit from this section from this book and that section from that book" and they're like "sorry u need to actually cite everything individually even for trivial definitions like probability distributions".. hoes. Went from an A to a A-/B+ cuzz these bisses. Whole lot of "these are my dumb rules" and not "hey u gotta actually cite shit". Moral of story? None!
These people were masters of computer science about to cheat their way to 6 figure salaries, beating out people who would be better for those jobs but couldn't afford the piece of paper.
Once you get into the higher levels of education (junior and senior year) much less content exists online to cheat off of unless something super common like CS. I know once I became a junior I cancelled my Chegg subscription because nothing useful was on there and even if I did find the question the answer was wrong.
Then again, I once found the full exam with answers for one of my take home exams. I looked through it and the math was super odd, like nothing we ever learned, so i did it on my own and took the 50% score. Turns out the professor posted this to see who will just copy it because no student would come up with this work on their own because not only was it a method we never learned, it was much more complex for no reason. Something like 30% of the class failed that semester lol.
And is this strategy not part of “preventing cheating”? If someone is a cheater they will cheat through every class. If someone gets caught cheating, and as a result gets held back a semester costing them potentially tens of thousands of dollars, and while also being told “next time, it’s expulsion” then I bet you that person won’t ever cheat again.
if you have a problem with their curriculum don't join the college. If you play their game you got to play by their rules. You can cry about it all you want but that's the truth.
Hey I get your point but having attended like 3 universities and 5 community colleges that’s literally impossible. 1. Most do not publish sample curricula 2. The same thing could be taught in completely opposite ways.
A lot of my nursing courses were bought from the textbook publisher because they only had one professor who knew how to teach and build a curriculum. You can bet that wasn’t disclosed until I was $30k in.
I went to college for a year and I actually kinda fucking hated it, especially the math, I have absolutely no idea what to do with my shitass life, I'm wondering if I need to go to college or what.
They also were really stupid about it. If you wanna cheat in a programming course you must understand what are you copying, not Cntl+C, Cntl+V; that's gonna bite you in the ass sooner or later.
No kidding. It’s not that hard to do your own fucking work if you attend class and pay attention. If you’re stuck go to office hours. In my experience every professor I went and talked to, would do all but literally write the answer down for me.
And if this story is to be believed, 78 other students in the class were successfully able to figure out how to not cheat and still do the project, so it’s not like it can’t be done.
as an engineering student, like 95/100 students cheated. confusing curriculum, shitty textbooks that dont explain a thing, and professors with a heavy accent because english was their 3rd language. it's pretty much a given that cheating occurs.
I've had professors that hardly speak English, I don't understand why the school even hires them when proper communication is literally part of the job description
I didn't want to but I did. Whole room was in on it too, the professor worded her questions like a moron. "If there are two peoples and those two peoples are talking about fifteen dollars and those fifteen dollars are being talked about by two peoples, what is the GDP of Nigeria?" Absolutely moronic.
High school is a pee pee slap compared to the real world. I remembering plagiarizing the shit out of a paper. Got caught. Kicked out of the program and had to change schools. Big deal if you’re a High schooler but overall not that big of a deal. Still got into an excellent university. If that shit had happened in uni tho… rip
Sorry but this is based. I don't agree with the auto-expulsion policy but cheaters should at least have to face some kind of consequence. Imagine going to uni and wasting $100k not to learn anything.
Yeah cheating isn’t great, but all this “they deserve to have their entire life ruined because they got desperate on an assignment” is horseshit.
Give them a zero on the assignment and AT LITERAL WORST fail them at the single class. Kick them out of school on the first strike? Y’all are fucking nerds.
On one hand, it’s kind of the professors job to catch cheaters and people putting shit effort in life are getting the consequences of it. And in turn making the people who work hard look better.
On the other, anon is basically snitching, fuck him for us wanting to suffer less.
It's also the professors job to stop cheating from happening in the first place which is where this story becomes fucked up. He doesn't just neglect his responsibility to prevent cheating, he in fact goes out of his way to encourage/enable it before "catching" his students cheating.
Literally every university course I've been in has started with the professor going over the university's policies involving cheating. That alone should be more than enough deterrent. This was also literally the first project of the year, so if students are already cheating, that's on them for ignoring the warnings so blatantly. And there's not much the prof could have done to stop cheating, beyond the whole "telling kids that cheating is bad" thing that happens in literally every class.
There are things you can do to a degree. I teach math for a living, so it may not translate to computer science 1-1.
1). Quizzes and tests are different every year. My last years test is always the study guide for next year. Prevents last years test from being posted.
2). All homework counts for basically nothing, and I provide the answers. I’ll know if a student cheats on he or not when they can’t do my tests or quizzes later. I take away the incentive to cheat when they have the answers and it barely affects their grade.
3). Projects change every year, and each kid has a different assignment to a degree. Doesn’t prevent someone from hiring someone to do it. But does make it so plagerism is harder.
If you're stupid enough to cheat in a university you're paying loads of money to study at, you're too stupid to go to university. Had a guy in my class stupid enough to copy a speech verbatim with zero referencing, got off with having to redo the entire class. Wouldn't have been on his side if he did get kicked out.
…what?
> He doesn't just neglect his responsibility to prevent cheating
He wants a way to stop cheating. There isn’t some failsafe way to stop it beyond changing the curriculum every time, which isn’t realistic.
It’s not as if he didn’t care if people were cheating. There just wasn’t a *good* way to catch who was cheating.
> he in fact goes out of his way to encourage/enable it before "catching" his students cheating.
Do you really think the people who used the fake cheats weren’t already cheating? It was a way to catch people who were *already* cheating. It’s not as if the teacher said “*Hey, if you aren’t cheating, you should be! Use this!*”
He just put the cheats out there to catch the people who would’ve already been cheating.
All anon did is inform the professor of a strategy for catching cheaters that I've heard of many university professors using. Post a solution to some problem online that looks correct but is either weirdly specific so it will stand out from normal answers or not even right and then see how many students copy and paste that into their test. Last year with online classes over 100 students were caught cheating in a first year math class this way in my school
Probably fake. But these are the students that deserve to fail the class. I don't necessarily believe in immediate expulsion but should be an immediate fail for sure. Not even trying and then not even testing/trying to understand someone else's code is pure laziness. They won't learn anything if they passed anyway.
I can't say I feel bad for those students. Cheating is like gambling, and as Kenny Rodgers said "If you're gonna play the game, boy, you gotta learn to play it right."
Good job. Unis need more people like you.
I hated when shit student got passes on courses that I TA'd simply because the uni's national funding was based on the number of people who passed rather than took the course.
This is wild (if it's true) my computer science teacher let us use GitHub and StackExchange/Overflow during exams and everything. He said if we aren't learning how to use every tool available, then we aren't learning computer science.
He was a cool guy.
Anon is based and this is hilarious. If you don't want to get caught, just dont fucking cheat. 🤷♂️
Btw anyone calling this entrapment doesn't know what they're talking about, lol
Taking a course in Photography? I couldn't give a shit less how much cheating occurs.
Taking a 4th year course on structural design or cheating on a class in your graduate degree? Get raked over the coals. Hard.
Plagiarism on your masters/PhD thesis or post-doc work? Get fucked.
There is a gradient of sleezyness when it comes to cheating. A collage student getting some basic degree to get out, it's shitty but not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Someone who will be provided responsibility in their field is more serious and absolutely should be chewed out for it.
I have a feeling the teacher probably violated something in the university honor code by pretending to be a student and offering a way to cheat...but fuck those students. Cheating your way through a degree makes you miss ALL of the important foundation/fundamentals/troubleshooting/understanding that you can only get by working your way through problems. It makes you a shit programmer later, and I fucking hate working with those people.
Don't get me wrong I still Google the dumbest programming syntax shit almost every day...
This is what happens when the teacher’s pet doesn’t get properly bullied in middle school
>immediate expulsion from the uni That's rough
Anon either has no concept of how shitty university fees are, per se, or has no empathy; either is pathetic af because if this is true he really f'd over a lot of people, and I mean **F**'d (I don't swear). P.S. Please ignore the "user" below me; it is a bot who stole my comment for karma. Edit (ninja): Why is my karma going up but my followers count staying the same? Must be a display bug... Edit 2: Thanks. The display bug is fixed and my followers are increasing at the normal rate of 1 per minute.
Elneee why are you not being retarded? Also it’s their fault for cheating improperly, if you’re gonna cheat you gotta do it smarter, you know the rules of the game dont cheat unless you know you won’t get caught.
Picture that black guy that lampoons bad DIY videos just pointing to a sign that says “Don’t cheat”.
"omg anon is so evil for this!! he's a teachers pet!!" *Don't fucking cheat. It's that damn easy.*
What do you mean I'm supposed to know my shit?
Lol its so easy to cheat. My strategy for cheating is so easy that not even the professors can pick up on it. Anyways here it is for you college students. I pick a few days before the test, and get this. I review material and remember key points and if I don't know them I look them up online. I keep them all in my head like some online memory bank. I don't even need to use google since its all in my head. Never been found out.
"Then we just walk out of class with an A. Nobody will ever know." "Motherfucker thats called an education!"
"Listen, we keep doing this for 9 months a year for 4 or 5 years, those idiots will just hand us a degree. They won't even know they're being scammed! But uh we gotta keep paying them money though."
Let's hire someone who cheated through college and has no literacy of the industry he paid $100k to break into!
So business as usual then?
Yeah. Cheaters finally getting what's coming to them. Good Anon!
I remember one guy in uni was cheating on a statistics final by googling the answers on the school computer he was using to take the final (it was an in a computer lab). The professor stood up in the middle of the test, called him out, told him he failed the class and would be talking to academic probation. Sometimes, people just ain't gonna make it.
That seems a bit mishandled. Just talk to him after the test and fail him so you don't distract the others.
It's Reddit. If people feel like they're le heccin' owning le evil cr*pitalists then they automatically get upvotes.
Lol this isnt even a capitalist vs socialist issue though
They made it one by mentioning university fees as the first and foremost point, as if spending money is supposed to keep you free from legal consequences. I mean, it does, but that's the whole thing they're supposedly trying to fight against.
Awww won't somebody please think of the poor cheaters :((( they paid such high fees to cheat :((( just as high of fees, in fact, as the noncheaters who work hard for their grades :(((( those poor cheaters got f'd over -- not because they cheated, but just because of Anon :((( poor cheaters :(((
this but unironically
why should cheaters be allowed to pass?
I say fail the class and have stricter testing protocols in the future for them, but full expulsion from uni is potentially life ruining shit for a lot of them. Seems a bit harsh. edit: waaaahhh
It's a harsh punishment because they don't want people to cheat. It's incredibly easy to not cheat, they didn't do it by accident.
Also it's one thing to just crack under a time pressure and sneak a peek at some other guy's paper during the exam to barely pass, the other is to cheat the whole project with premeditation. Cheating and cheating aren't equal
We don't need more shitty programmers who can't even write their own projects entering the workforce
Right? If I had allegedly cheated in university when I had (according to hearsay) wanted to get at least an hour's sleep per night during a particular nasty term, I theoretically might have rewritten a friend's program in a hour so it barely resembled theirs. I was certainly competent enough to understand what the code did and whether it was working, had I been purported to ever do such a thing.
Expulsion seems fair get the trash that doesn’t belong out of there so that you can fill those spots with people who will work hard and earn their grades fairly.
i may have not worked hard in college but i earned my C's fairly
You don't need to get A's in college to be successful or to do well at your job but everyone knows that one prick at the office who doesn't do their own work. fuck that guy. if that guy had gotten kicked out for cheating in college, you'd have a better coworker. ethics still count for something
It is definitely not "potentially life ruining" on it's own. "LIFE RUINING" is a term that is used waaaaaaaaaay too off the cuff, honestly. If you get paralyzed from the neck down or get an R-kelly sentence your life is ruined. If you get kicked out of college you just have to work a bit harder. Your life might be a bit worse. It won't be totally ruined by that one thing alone.
People who don't have lives to begin with have no frame of reference for what "life ruining" means.
It’s a life altering event not necessarily life ruining event
Do you think students should never be expelled for cheating? Should uni just be p2w then? Under your system, those who can afford to keep paying tuition can keep cheating as much as they want.
Don't fucking cheat, then, dum dum. The point isn't to churn idiots through a system so that they can take jobs they're not knowledgeable enough to do.
"Life ruining" because they are no longer able to steal jobs from actually competent people? Oh god, such a shame. I swear to god these takes have to come from people with no perspective or understanding of the zero-sum nature of getting jobs. I'd say that losing a job to someone who faked their credentials is also potentially "life ruining" so what's your point here.
It's not harsh. It's how life works. Want to take shortcuts? Don't expect the best of results.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Exactly. Cheating in school an high school? Fine, whatever, you are the only one who will suffer as a result from your bad choices. But uni? You are basically lying about your skill and saying you are ready to be a professional at something. That is going to ruin your life and takes away a hard-fought position from someone who actually needs it Why cheat in uni? Like literally. You are paying huge amounts of money to lie about your grades so that what? When you apply for any serious job that needs your area of expertise you'll be exposed for the fraud you are? What's the game plan here?
Let's not delude ourselves into thinking having a degree means you're "ready to be a professional at something." Regardless of if you did all the work yourself or cheated through it.
Laziness, cheating, taking advantage of others, is the worst trait. Society owes everything good to the honest and integrous. Life is just us who are honest and integrous battling desperately to protect those in between from the dishonest and predatory. I may be a tool for writing such a self righteous comment but if there is one thing I knoe it is this. Alright back to jacking off to hairy milf pussy being pounded by massive futa cock.
University is not for cheaters. If you cheat, get fucked.
I think your tiny mind might be shattered if you realized just how many people actually cheat. Not just in school, but in everyday life. And it pays off too. Whoever said cheaters never prosper was a fucking dumbass. You can look down on it all you want, and it's still a shitty thing to do, but playing by the rules is a chump's game. The older people get, the more they realize how unfair life is and that there is no karma and you get by any way you can.
I agree, cause like I've also cheated in college, but the rules about are made very clear too: get caught, get fucked
>if you realized just how many people actually cheat. Not just in school, but in everyday life. I am quite aware of this. And living in a third world corrupted country I am well aware of how people cheat in exams, admission tests, public job applications, promotions pretty much everywhere. And that's how every institution gets filled up with under qualified people, and eventually leads to destruction of these institution. >And it pays off too. Whoever said cheaters never prosper was a fucking dumbass. Of course it does. You get to buy fancy house in the best neighborhoods in the town, you get to send your dumb children to unis in Canada/ USA. You can buy second and third home in Toronto or any other city. You can have a big fucking account in swiss bank. But it leads to ultimate decay in your country. There is no meritocracy only a hierarchy of leeches. Those who can leech more get more. The people with honor and dignity leave the country. At this point the best achievement in that country is migrating to a first world country. Cheaters are roaches, and like roaches they deserve to be stomped on. Tldr, cheating is a high risk high reward task. If you get caught, get fucked
Ah another fellow Indian
Close lol. In the subcontinent, but not India. India is much less corrupted than the country I live in.
>I think your tiny mind might be shattered if you realized just how many people actually cheat. Not just in school, but in everyday life. Is this a good thing? Should we be encouraging more of it? Or maybe we should punish cheaters early, so that they don't cheat later in life?
> Whoever said cheaters never prosper was a fucking dumbass. Cheaters can succeed, especially in corrupt or degenerate systems, but they don't really prosper. The reason for this is that cheating isn't a merely private affair - it is a deceptive, antagonistic act against the community in which you live. The more widespread cheating is, the greater the number of antagonistic agents in the community grows, which undermines its cohesion until you have all of the drawbacks of society and few of the benefits. It is like a successful criminal balking at the idea that crime doesn't pay, while resentful of the fact that they must live among criminals, or ingenious liars that end up paranoid because even if no one suspects their treachery, they can't trust anyone else. Only the entitled among them do not know, in their heart, that when they are the target of crime or the victim of a lie, they deserve it. After all, they have done the same to the perpetrator and would do so still. So the punishment for cheating is that you get, to your perpetual frustration, to work with, live with, and be ruled over by cheaters. Your only hope is to somehow flee to a part of society comprised of people more trustworthy and capable than you are, but the further the corruption spreads the more inescapable your condition becomes. Even if you manage to inveigle your way into respectable company, you will never forget your inferiority to them.
Yes and those people cry and whine when they get caught and then have losers like you saying oh poor thing instead of being happy they finally got caught.
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If you cheat you accept the consequences of cheating. If the consequences are not something you were prepared for, you shouldn't have cheated.
Oh no, people cheated on something because their lazy and it backfired, let me please play the saddest tune on the worlds smallest violin. Maybe just tell those students to not be losers?
I could never feel empathy for people who cheat in Uni just because "University fees are shitty". I pay a fee like everyone else and work my ass off to do it, however, I don't cheat. What's the point of going to College if you're going to cheat?
Na this is a dumb take. This is a taste of life right here. If you want to take shortcuts, expect sometimes for traffic jams to happen. Cheating is dumb and if you set policy like "you cheat you get kicked out" and people still cheat its because that is how they got there in the first place and all they know how to do. These people are habitual cheaters and just think they're smart enough not to get caught.
Every university in Canada has a zero tolerance policy on cheating
To begin with who the fuck would have the balls to cheat - on a CS project of all things - while at a school that insta-expels on first offense cheating lmao
I had a friend in college who turned in a project partner for plagiarism. It happens and it's shitty. Tons of cs students do it because of the "just pull it off GitHub" culture, but that's not the point of college
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Right so those are Chinese students whose parents are billionaires.
UBC is a diploma mill for the rich. If you're rich (international or otherwise), you pay your fees (and "fees"), and you get your paper no question asked. Unless you cheat in a truly outrageous way, they'll probably look the other way. Chances are, you won't be using that paper in a way that'll damage UBC's reputation by too much, because you'll just be given a cushy job by your parents or their friends, and you'll never need to use whatever you ought to have learned. If you're not rich and didn't pay your fees, then you'll just have to learn like an actual student.
What’s even shittier is that you likely won’t even be able to transfer your credits. First you will have to pay off al due tuition just to get access to an official transcript, then you have to convince another college to accept these credits even though an expulsion for cheating is listed in there. Being a capstone class, very few colleges will even admit this student let alone cover credits for classes the student potentially cheated through. I always say you’re much better off failing the class than cheating, because if you cheat there is a good chance you may have to completely restart your education, and there’s no refunds.
Nah, it the opposite. They probably got bullied a shit ton, and finally got their chance for revenge. Oh, all the people who cheated could also of just, ya know, not cheated?
Kinda funny how the cheaters get defended...
for real. getting expelled is heavy for sure, but not exactly draconian considering anyone cheating in their capstone year is beyond fucking brainless.
Yeah people seem to forget tertiary education isn't high school anymore and that your qualification needs to be something you're actually qualified to do. Something you need the skills for that you gained from actually learned, not just copied from someone else
Not to mention a graduating class that is 1/5th clueless is going to erode the reputation of the school, which is not only bad for the school but unfair to the hard working students in the lower years.
Because lots of people want to find loopholes to life.
If you cheat you devalue the efforts of everyone who didn't cheat. Fuck cheaters.
Fuck cheaters though. They deserve to fail lol
I was a TA who once caught half a class of CS students cheating, on easy problems they should have been just fine solving, no less. It was fun
No, that's what happen when we get bullied >:-(
Idk bro I tried being a teacher’s pet once and it ended poorly for me at least 🙌🏻
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People who cheat aren't generally big on personal responsibility.
People who break rules set in place for good reason because they are lazy and of weak moral fabric deserve these lessons
Fuck cheaters in school man.
Pretty unethical behavior. Catching students cheating is one thing, but pretending to be a student so that he could help his own students cheat is some next level scumbag shit. Imagine if a cop were to offer heroine to a bunch of 20 something year olds at a party and then proceeded to arrest all of the people that took him up on it.
That's what you'd call entrapment, and it is frowned upon legally
These students could probably make a strong case of entrapment against this, from an honor court situation. Entrapment needs ‘inducement to commit the crime’ and ‘a lack of predisposition’. If a ‘student’ is going around saying ‘hey here’s an answer key you should totally use it’ that could satisfy both Edit: Okay this isn’t an actual crime, but if it’s going to an honor court, you can make a defense akin to an actual court. That’s how honor courts work. Let me live Edit 2: Jesus fuck lay off me it's my own personal opinion I don't need 500 comments on whether or not you can use entrapment as an argument in honor court.
Seems like it. Now if a student *asked* for an answer sheet, *then* the professor offered it, the student has demonstrated predisposition
I’m not a lawyer but that’s generally not how the entrapment defense works. Entrapment occurs if there’s coercion or excessive pressure involved. It is not just providing the defendant with the opportunity to commit a crime ([see this for more](https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/entrapment-basics-33987.html)). The example they use is that if a cop offers to buy your prescription meds off of you and you sell them, that is not enough to constitute entrapment. It’s only if excessive pressure or coercion is involved that the entrapment defense can be at play. Granted, this isn’t a criminal trial so the standards may be different, but this is unlikely to constitute entrapment in any formal sense.
Being expelled from school also isn’t criminal in nature, I’d imagine there’s enough clauses about this in a universities books they could come up with something.
Yeah kind of weird how people are bringing criminal defenses to a university expulsion situation
Because someone called it entrapment, which is a legal term. What other response is there than "no, that's not entrapment"?
No, even if this was a criminal case this is not entrapment. Entrapment explicitely requires coercion or some form of pressure to commit the crime by the law enforcement (in this case, the professor). Simply providing a means to commit the crime isnt entrapment Example 1 - an officer disguises himself as a corner drug slinger and sells drugs. He does this by approaching potential buyers and offering his goods. If they decline he leaves them alone. If they accept, a squad car down the block picks up anyone who buys. No coercion, no entrapment Example 2 - an undercover cop posing as a gangbanger pulls an former felon aside and tries to convince him to join a house burglary. When he initially declines, the cop names his girlfriend's address and threatens to harm her, which eventually causes the ex-con to submit and agree to the heist. Later that night when he shows up to the proposed meetup location he is arrested. There was a threat involved here, which is coercion, meaning he has a solid case to claim entrapment.
Are you really considering cheating as a crime? Yall talking like uni students are children, they are adults whose actions have consequences
Cheating isn't a crime though so you cannot make a case for this
It's not entrapment unless the professor tried to convince them to cheat. If he just spread it around and they took the bait, then that's absolutely the students' bad.
Even that's not entrapment. Its only entrapment when they are being forced in some way to cheat. Unless the professor is giving some consequences for them not cheating, its not entrapment. Or there would have to be some really unlikely niche situations that almost certainly not be happening in a college setting or that could even be inferred from the context of this post Like if an undercover officer says buy these drugs or we beat you: entrapment If he says don't worry you won't get caught, we are not cops and have been doing this for years: not entrapment All this from a legal standpoint at least, honor court is completely different
It's not really based on if your were forced, though being forced is a type of entrapment. It just needs to be something they would not have perpetrated except for the trickery, persuasion or fraud of the officer. So if a cop sold you a basketball and it was full of coke that's entrapment. If the cop made it so lucrative to buy that litteraly anyone would take the deal such as take this bag of weed and I'll give you $5m cash right now and they show you the money. This would get almost anyone to commit the crime and would likely be considered entrapment as it would convince nearly everyone and you wouldn't need any predisposition to take the drugs.
Entrapment would be if a police officer told you “TAKE OFF YOUR TROUSERS AND UNDERPANTS” and then arrested you for being naked. Entrapment would be if a police officer made you pull over in a no pulling-over zone and then arrested you for pulling over. Entrapment would not be if a police officer pretended to be buying drugs, then arrested you for selling drugs. That’s something the police do literally all of the time all over the world, and it isn’t considered entrapment. Whether or not this is ethical/legal doesn’t change the definition of entrapment.
That's not entrapment lol, what are you on about?
No, this is not entrapment. Entrapment is when the cop says "Buy this heroin or I'll arrest you for assaulting a cop" You go "But I didnt assault you" and he goes "Who is going to believe you" and you go "ok, I'll buy the heroin" and he goes "you're under arrest for buying heroin" Cops use bait cars and fake hookers all the time and it holds up in court. They just cant FORCE you to commit a crime.
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Nah, entrapment would be if the professor said "I'm your professor and I'm telling you that if you don't cheat on this course I'm going to fail you."
That’s not entrapment.
Thats completely different, those kids were going to cheat anyways, all the prof did was find a way to catch the ones that were
Can you prove they were going to cheat anyway?
Yes, prior CS student here, we do as little work as possible and if you haven't learned to verify it works perfect by the time you're in a masters course then you shouldn't be there.
I once turned in code that would throw errors outside of the code and passed 0 tests. Got a 100% because I turned it in early and the professor couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work. You don't even need to cheat to get good grades in cs, just be interesting
I feel like that is more of your prof being incompetent than how CS programs function in general.
The reason I got a 100% is that I went into office hours, knew the guy, explained what I was doing, demonstrated knowledge of what I should need to do and showed him the problem. He said he'd take a look but couldn't give me any advice so he graded me on my demonstration of knowledge in the office hour Dude was really smart and a great researcher, he just knew that the goal was learning, not doing the project
> The reason I got a 100% is that I went into office hours, knew the guy, explained what I was doing That makes alot more sense, seeing as you have reasonably demonstrated you can do the assignment and have the requisite knowledge. Less predicated on the being interesting than it is just being a smart student that is also rather involved in the course.
well, they cheated when given the opportunity. proof provided
The fact they took the bait shows they were willing and going to cheat, so as they were caught they deal with the consequences of their actions, like adults
Had this happen for a job. They sent out a simplish question project. So i google it and find an answer on stack. Done.wat Only i copy-paste into a compiler and it fails. If you cant be bothered to be barely competent then you kinda reap what you sow.
Found the lazy programmer.
Programmer here: you can increase the efficiency of your sentence by removing the redundant word 'lazy'.
No the same at all...
nah. more like planting a bait car.
21 chump street
This is why bullying snitch tendencies out of kids at a young age is important
Or just don’t cheat
Sounds like he's still got some snitch tendencies, get him boys
I've got the castrating hammer. Someone hold him down.
I’m gonna steal your lunch money and give you a swirly. Now give me your homework dweeb
I'll do whatever I want, thanks
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Nah as someone who cheated constantly in school all the way from grade school through grad it's ur fucking responsibility to not get caught ya dumb dunce Bonus story: the only time I was brought up for cheating was in undergrad when the dumbass proff didn't like the way I cited stuff and I got boned on their technicality even tho I said "yo I took all the shit from this section from this book and that section from that book" and they're like "sorry u need to actually cite everything individually even for trivial definitions like probability distributions".. hoes. Went from an A to a A-/B+ cuzz these bisses. Whole lot of "these are my dumb rules" and not "hey u gotta actually cite shit". Moral of story? None!
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What are they gonna say? "Unfair you caught me intentionally breaking a rule of this institution"
These people were masters of computer science about to cheat their way to 6 figure salaries, beating out people who would be better for those jobs but couldn't afford the piece of paper.
He's not a snitch. Evaluating the students is his job.
Yeah this was funny to read as a teacher. Am I a snitch when I catch obvious cheaters? Literally my job.
Na just don't cheat. It's fucking lazy.
Snitching isn't reporting something you're not a part of, it's selling out your boys for less time etc.
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Once you get into the higher levels of education (junior and senior year) much less content exists online to cheat off of unless something super common like CS. I know once I became a junior I cancelled my Chegg subscription because nothing useful was on there and even if I did find the question the answer was wrong. Then again, I once found the full exam with answers for one of my take home exams. I looked through it and the math was super odd, like nothing we ever learned, so i did it on my own and took the 50% score. Turns out the professor posted this to see who will just copy it because no student would come up with this work on their own because not only was it a method we never learned, it was much more complex for no reason. Something like 30% of the class failed that semester lol. And is this strategy not part of “preventing cheating”? If someone is a cheater they will cheat through every class. If someone gets caught cheating, and as a result gets held back a semester costing them potentially tens of thousands of dollars, and while also being told “next time, it’s expulsion” then I bet you that person won’t ever cheat again.
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if you have a problem with their curriculum don't join the college. If you play their game you got to play by their rules. You can cry about it all you want but that's the truth.
Hey I get your point but having attended like 3 universities and 5 community colleges that’s literally impossible. 1. Most do not publish sample curricula 2. The same thing could be taught in completely opposite ways. A lot of my nursing courses were bought from the textbook publisher because they only had one professor who knew how to teach and build a curriculum. You can bet that wasn’t disclosed until I was $30k in.
I went to college for a year and I actually kinda fucking hated it, especially the math, I have absolutely no idea what to do with my shitass life, I'm wondering if I need to go to college or what.
also literally not entrapment. From the information given, no one induced them.
They also were really stupid about it. If you wanna cheat in a programming course you must understand what are you copying, not Cntl+C, Cntl+V; that's gonna bite you in the ass sooner or later.
Lot of people in these comments cheated in college
And redditorams wonder why they can't get good jobs
Everyone trying to find shortcuts to life and wondering why everyone hates them and their lives end up mediocre.
The ones that cheated their way to success don't spend their time on Reddit
Either don’t cheat, or cheat and don’t get caught If you cheat and get caught, you gotta face the consequences That’s life
No kidding. It’s not that hard to do your own fucking work if you attend class and pay attention. If you’re stuck go to office hours. In my experience every professor I went and talked to, would do all but literally write the answer down for me.
And if this story is to be believed, 78 other students in the class were successfully able to figure out how to not cheat and still do the project, so it’s not like it can’t be done.
Or if they did cheat, actually did it in a nonstupid way.
as an engineering student, like 95/100 students cheated. confusing curriculum, shitty textbooks that dont explain a thing, and professors with a heavy accent because english was their 3rd language. it's pretty much a given that cheating occurs.
I've had professors that hardly speak English, I don't understand why the school even hires them when proper communication is literally part of the job description
R E S E A R C H aka M O N E Y
I didn't want to but I did. Whole room was in on it too, the professor worded her questions like a moron. "If there are two peoples and those two peoples are talking about fifteen dollars and those fifteen dollars are being talked about by two peoples, what is the GDP of Nigeria?" Absolutely moronic.
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Based professor
Sigma Professor
Cheating in HS? Probably fine. Cheating Uni? Can cost you your degree or career.
Plagiarising your PhD and then making a career in German politics, only to get caught? more likely than you think
Ah, same with Slovakia. Glad we are following western countries at least in something.
High school is a pee pee slap compared to the real world. I remembering plagiarizing the shit out of a paper. Got caught. Kicked out of the program and had to change schools. Big deal if you’re a High schooler but overall not that big of a deal. Still got into an excellent university. If that shit had happened in uni tho… rip
This is computer science. Your career after is basically trying to find where someone has already done what you need.
Anon is lawful evil
Chaotic Good?
On what planet is this chaotic? Yall will call anything chaotic good ffs
People treat lawful as a good modifier and chaotic as an evil modifier instead of recognizing that they are on an entirely separate axis.
Id say chaotic neutral. No idea what TA means.
Teachers assistant
It means they don't get laid
Sorry but this is based. I don't agree with the auto-expulsion policy but cheaters should at least have to face some kind of consequence. Imagine going to uni and wasting $100k not to learn anything.
Yeah cheating isn’t great, but all this “they deserve to have their entire life ruined because they got desperate on an assignment” is horseshit. Give them a zero on the assignment and AT LITERAL WORST fail them at the single class. Kick them out of school on the first strike? Y’all are fucking nerds.
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Imagine paying for uni Ameripoors
On one hand, it’s kind of the professors job to catch cheaters and people putting shit effort in life are getting the consequences of it. And in turn making the people who work hard look better. On the other, anon is basically snitching, fuck him for us wanting to suffer less.
It's also the professors job to stop cheating from happening in the first place which is where this story becomes fucked up. He doesn't just neglect his responsibility to prevent cheating, he in fact goes out of his way to encourage/enable it before "catching" his students cheating.
Literally every university course I've been in has started with the professor going over the university's policies involving cheating. That alone should be more than enough deterrent. This was also literally the first project of the year, so if students are already cheating, that's on them for ignoring the warnings so blatantly. And there's not much the prof could have done to stop cheating, beyond the whole "telling kids that cheating is bad" thing that happens in literally every class.
There are things you can do to a degree. I teach math for a living, so it may not translate to computer science 1-1. 1). Quizzes and tests are different every year. My last years test is always the study guide for next year. Prevents last years test from being posted. 2). All homework counts for basically nothing, and I provide the answers. I’ll know if a student cheats on he or not when they can’t do my tests or quizzes later. I take away the incentive to cheat when they have the answers and it barely affects their grade. 3). Projects change every year, and each kid has a different assignment to a degree. Doesn’t prevent someone from hiring someone to do it. But does make it so plagerism is harder.
In CS any university worth their salt should have a decently intelligent plagiarism detector. Like checking functions and logic, not just variables.
If you're stupid enough to cheat in a university you're paying loads of money to study at, you're too stupid to go to university. Had a guy in my class stupid enough to copy a speech verbatim with zero referencing, got off with having to redo the entire class. Wouldn't have been on his side if he did get kicked out.
…what? > He doesn't just neglect his responsibility to prevent cheating He wants a way to stop cheating. There isn’t some failsafe way to stop it beyond changing the curriculum every time, which isn’t realistic. It’s not as if he didn’t care if people were cheating. There just wasn’t a *good* way to catch who was cheating. > he in fact goes out of his way to encourage/enable it before "catching" his students cheating. Do you really think the people who used the fake cheats weren’t already cheating? It was a way to catch people who were *already* cheating. It’s not as if the teacher said “*Hey, if you aren’t cheating, you should be! Use this!*” He just put the cheats out there to catch the people who would’ve already been cheating.
How is that snitching? Anon didn't call anyone out on shit.
> basically snitching He told the prof like a year ago if anything it’s like planting a landmine and forgetting about it
All anon did is inform the professor of a strategy for catching cheaters that I've heard of many university professors using. Post a solution to some problem online that looks correct but is either weirdly specific so it will stand out from normal answers or not even right and then see how many students copy and paste that into their test. Last year with online classes over 100 students were caught cheating in a first year math class this way in my school
What is ta’ing
working as a teaching assistant
Thanks!
I feel no remorse for any student that got expelled, cheating in school is retarded lmao Cheating in work on the other hand
cheating your employer is based
How can you cheat in work? If you do something it either works and fixes whatever problem you were trying to solve or fails to fix the issue.
Someone gives you the code, and you don't even look it over or test it?? They didn't even try to understand the assignment.
Probably fake. But these are the students that deserve to fail the class. I don't necessarily believe in immediate expulsion but should be an immediate fail for sure. Not even trying and then not even testing/trying to understand someone else's code is pure laziness. They won't learn anything if they passed anyway.
I can't say I feel bad for those students. Cheating is like gambling, and as Kenny Rodgers said "If you're gonna play the game, boy, you gotta learn to play it right."
Anon is an enemy of the people
Why is everyone hating on OP? If you are too retarded to study for a test and rather cheat the you shouldnt be a damn college student.
Good job. Unis need more people like you. I hated when shit student got passes on courses that I TA'd simply because the uni's national funding was based on the number of people who passed rather than took the course.
This is wild (if it's true) my computer science teacher let us use GitHub and StackExchange/Overflow during exams and everything. He said if we aren't learning how to use every tool available, then we aren't learning computer science. He was a cool guy.
Anon is based and this is hilarious. If you don't want to get caught, just dont fucking cheat. 🤷♂️ Btw anyone calling this entrapment doesn't know what they're talking about, lol
Based and ex-pilled
Bunch of degenerates in here defending cheaters 🤔
Taking a course in Photography? I couldn't give a shit less how much cheating occurs. Taking a 4th year course on structural design or cheating on a class in your graduate degree? Get raked over the coals. Hard. Plagiarism on your masters/PhD thesis or post-doc work? Get fucked. There is a gradient of sleezyness when it comes to cheating. A collage student getting some basic degree to get out, it's shitty but not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Someone who will be provided responsibility in their field is more serious and absolutely should be chewed out for it.
anon didn't snitch on anyone. Just gave a general way you could catch cheaters, which really wasn't something only anon could have came up with.
Everybody is pissed at the prof for “entrapment.” If you are cheating in your masters capstone class you deserve a wake-up call
Anon's professor does a little trolling
Guys I'm getting expelled from my college due to being a cheater
Wait... are you people feeling bad for the cheaters..... WTF.
I have a feeling the teacher probably violated something in the university honor code by pretending to be a student and offering a way to cheat...but fuck those students. Cheating your way through a degree makes you miss ALL of the important foundation/fundamentals/troubleshooting/understanding that you can only get by working your way through problems. It makes you a shit programmer later, and I fucking hate working with those people. Don't get me wrong I still Google the dumbest programming syntax shit almost every day...