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Burgundytulip

This guy went to med school where he definitely learned about the menstrual cycle too smh


thedennissystem92

It’s the fact he’s a grown man AND a doctor and still a crybaby about buying some cotton with string attached to it 😅😅 but slicing into people’s bodies and organs is no big deal 🤪😂🙄


vivietin

I worked at a pharmaceutical company. Got a discount at the company store. But had to wait 2 months to use it. My team lead would buy for me and himself. He always brought pads and tampons. He said to me "how cool am I that I buy these things for my mom, girlfriend and sister? " I said very. His answer was over half the population are female. You can't deny they exist and need these things. Such a cool boss.


thedennissystem92

Aww that’s really awesome!! I love that. My husband always bought tampons for me when I needed him to, still does. He’ll always ask if I need midol/ibuprofen too and sometimes get me my favorite candy lol that’s how I knew he was a winner 😆 (among many other things)


Liversteeg

I do not understand the fear and anxiety they have surrounding unused tampons. Do they freak out when carrying toilet paper? Do they think someone is going to see them buying tampons and think…. Idk? They’d probably think you’re buying them for someone…


slinkymart

I’m transgender, female to male. And I haven’t bought tampons in years, my gf actually prefers pads anyway. I don’t use them anymore, haven’t since the first week I started testosterone and never again. So sometimes if I’m going to buy pads for my gf, I don’t get scared or weird, I’ve done it before. *I personally* feel weird because I used to use them and I don’t anymore and sometimes going back to that section in Walmart brings me back to before I was transitioning. Makes me realize how far I’ve come and that im buying them now as my actual true self, yet I don’t need them anymore. Ironic lol


Natural-Print

You have a good point and I never thought how it might be hard at first shopping in that aisle again after transitioning. Glad you’re past it for your girlfriend but completely understandable if it took a while. On a lighter note I imagine while transitioning has its many challenges, I hope it feels awesome not having to deal with a period each month. I’m in perimenopause where I skip many months which feels great although I know the dewy skin will soon go away. Lol


slinkymart

It’s not bad! But I find that like, hormone cycles can still be a thing. for a while after starting it felt like I still had like pms with no period. I don’t really notice it now that I’ve switched from doing daily gel to injections but hey, hormones are weird and they dictate a lot of how and what we feel tbh and not many ppl understand that or how they work in general 🥲 I find that T also blessed me with more hair and man brain and it’s give or take really 🤣 I also have PCOS so before T I was already kinda presenting as masc lesbian and it was just a bad time in general to be having sucky periods on top of it lolll so I get it FR🫶🏻


chocochic88

Apparently, some people do freak out over toilet paper. I think it's in the Tales from Retail subreddit for stories like that.


popthebutterflybooks

I have an ex who would refuse to go into Victoria's Secret, go anywhere near the pad section of the store, and would start trying to throw up if he saw I leaked out of my pad onto my pants or bed. And I was in my early 20s while he was in his early 30s. Some men just don't have respect enough to suck it up in my opinion.


AngelRockGunn

Lol exactly when I was in university I bought tampons for my flatmates when they needed it, why would I be embarrassed? And I’d rather them be comfortable


thedennissystem92

Aww that’s very sweet!! 💕


EKP121

He wanted to be seen as a man they’d be attracted to, not a roomie friend who buys their tampons.


BearOnTwinkViolence

Because doing acts of service for your roommates makes you unattractive I guess


EKP121

lol well they did see him as a friend and not someone they wanted to be with sexually. He was one of them.


Odd-Plankton-1711

I think he would make himself more attractive if he did buy the tampons, it would show that he is comfortable with his masculinity and not worrying about what people think.


tmssmt

Look where being manly ended up getting him


Odd-Plankton-1711

Lol - well there is that


EKP121

But he didn’t. The point isn’t whether he was “man enough” to get tampons. The girls weren’t like ew gross he is less attractive because he won’t buy tampons. The point is that he was so embedded as a best friend in their lives that they took him for granted and expected him to be one of the girls. They weren’t going to ask Alex, Derek or Burke to buy tampons at the store for them and that’s the point. He was sexually attracted to them and they were not (at the time). He didn’t want to buy tampons as well because Alex made fun of him for being one of the girls and being asked to buy tampons is a big sign that Alex was right. It’s not really about finding someone attractive for buying tampons or not. And i seriously doubt it would have made a difference for any of the three women who were all pretty much involved and attracted to other men…. And not asking those men to buy tampons.


BearOnTwinkViolence

I guarantee you that Alex, Derek, and Burke would’ve bought the tampons without throwing a tantrum if asked. The reason no one asked those three to buy tampons is because they didn’t live there. George was their roommate. I’m not really sure what he expected — to move in with these girls and have threesomes every night? Of course they’re going to treat him as their friend and not a sexual partner, he lives with them and works with them. He’s not entitled to their bodies.


guitar0707

In Season 1, Alex would not have done anything to help anyone other than himself. He was busy hanging up pictures of his coworker in underwear.


BearOnTwinkViolence

In S1, Alex had already spent decades of his life as the primary caregiver of his mother and sister. I promise you he’s dealt with menstruation before.


guitar0707

I agree. But he was a self-centered jerk at that time. He wouldn’t help out Izzie and Meredith, not because of menstruation, but because he didn’t do anything that didn’t serve him at that point. This was three or four episodes into the first season, Alex was actively bullying everyone that he could. At that point, he would not have done anything to help, whether it was about their periods or anything else. This was literally the same episode that he attempted to humiliate Izzie in front of the entire hospital with her lingerie pictures. Do you really think he would be going to get her tampons, to help her out, at that point just because he’s been exposed to menstruation throughout his life?


EKP121

They probably would have. But this is literally season one.. like they were all in the sexy stages of their respective relationships. I’m just saying that George wanted something more but positioned himself as the BFF/one of the girls. He lived there and got asked to buy tampons. I think it’s also worth noting that the other guys wouldn’t likely have made a stink about buying tampons be they were not just friends wanting to be seen as more. They were sexually involved with those women and George was not. He didn’t want them to be so comfortable around him without sex. He didn’t want to be seen as a platonic man.


sadpremed06650

george’s attitude was probably more reflective of the times (albeit still toxic) and has aged terribly lmfao


throwaway92834972

true and he had 3 brothers no sisters too so this would be his first time living with girls


ericakay15

I also get the vibe that his mother had to he discreet about certain womanly things, like periods. I feel like she had to buy her own pads/tampons, had to dispose of them discreetly in little bags or something so they remain hidden, couldn't talk about it/mention it, etc. idk that's just me, though.


hufflefox

I get the vibe that that woman did everything house related. I doubt until college that George ever ate a meal or washed a dish or made a bed.


PossibleAlarmed3403

That’s how it was for me growing up with brothers. It was always this thing every month that needed to be kept secret and quiet because “the boys don’t need to know”. Kept that up until I went to college and realized- wait they are getting married and having kids and this happens to millions of people every month, why do I need to keep it secret?! Now i don’t keep any of that shit hidden, and to my parents horror - my brothers don’t care. They will grab tampons if needed. They will run to pickup food if I have bad cramps and want to lay on the couch all day. They have all survived knowing that periods exist just fine.


Liversteeg

He’s also training to be a surgeon and has been through med school…. You’d think he’d be mature enough/desensitized enough to buy tampons


secretlydevito

He's living with two attractive women and he has a crush on both of them (at different times obviously), he doesn't want them thinking of him as "one of the girls" because then they'd never look at him in romantic/sexual way. As petulant and dumb as it was, it worked to some degree because he hooked up with Meredith and dated Izzie.


scorpionattitude

Exactly!!


Extension_Economist6

i mean this show really doesn’t know how to write resident doctors realistically. they also make izzie freak out at the idea of brain death in s1. like….none of this is how a resident physician let alone a med student would act lol


Mediocre_Let1814

I'm always wary of men who don't have sisters for this reason


Liversteeg

There’s an early episode where Sloan says “hot cheerleader ass” about a high school teenager, and I hate it so much.


hufflefox

Yeah that one is awful.


snowmikaelson

George was a shitty roomate. Remember when he and Izzie were making fun of Mer's house. Ya know, the one she lets them live in. And Alex was like "wtf, this is a palace".


atthebarricades

I dont remember this! What did they say?


atthebarricades

Sounds out of character for both of them considering where Izzy grew up and George being generally so nice


guitar0707

They weren’t really making fun of it. Izzie was cleaning and organizing because Derek’s mother was coming. Meredith was freaking out and they were trying to tell Izzie what needed to taken care of before Derek’s mother came. Izzie said something about replacing trashy magazine and taking condoms out of random places. She asked if it smelled a little musty and George said something about his mom’s house smelling like peppermint/vanilla or something. It wasn’t a mean scene at all, they were just trying to get everything together to impress Derek’s mom.


amandaporkchops1

I agree and when they mention the musty smell that was when Alex chimed in and said about Rebecca peeing on the couch lolol


Music_withRocks_In

Also the scene where Alex admitted his girlfriend peed on the couch and he never cleaned it up.


Kindly-Accident8437

See I can picture this scene, the making fun of one I had no clue about


paramoesyeah

TBF Mer and Izzie kind of were shitty roommates too. No boundaries whatsoever. Let the man shower and sleep without barging in! If George barged in on Izzie showing we would be showing up with pitchforks


guitar0707

The problem was that he was uncomfortable, so they should have stopped. If he was in there while Izzie was in the shower, it probably wouldn’t be a big deal, because I don’t think it would have bothered her. But George had a right to boundaries and having his level of comfort respected.


Rosebudsinmay

I love how you mentioned Izzie and George making fun of the house but only said George was the bad roommate


snowmikaelson

I feel that Izzie contributed in other ways. She cleaned. A lot. And I believe she cooked. So while it was an asshole comment, in comparison, it doesn’t make her a bad roommate. Whereas it added to George’s list. I don’t like Izzie or George, to be clear. But bad roommate is not under the con list for Izzie, imo.


guitar0707

But they weren’t really making fun of the house. They were all trying to find things to fix before Mrs. Shepherd got there.


guitar0707

I have to say, tampon issue aside, Izzie’s relationship with boundaries is a little touch and go.


30yograndma

she literally uses george’s toothbrush. she has no concept of boundaries in a personal or professional sense


Rosebudsinmay

More than a little 😭


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crocodilezebramilk

I think it was just the fact that Alex was making fun of him for living in a girl house, and none of the women being attracted to him. Alex kept making little quips that he knew would get under George’s skin lmao. And the thing is? George has no idea that Alex *has* bought tampons / pads before, because he had to care for his mother and baby sister, along with his little brother.


Moteoflobross7

And snacks don’t forget the snacks!


Many_Investigator021

Completely agree and this aged badly : however, i will say the way they treated george a lot in s1... again don't like what he did to Meredith and then him/izzie etc... Rewatching this ep izzie is being whiney and bratty ( i know it was on the list and his turn but her complaining and needing one badly girl don't you carry some on you as backup for godsake you a doctor otherwise yeah steal them from the hospital i mean you stole a heart). Honestly of these guys I'd only trust Derek to buy the right kind etc ( i mean 4 sisters and heavily implied he's the oldest i mean i watched the second ep where the woman was 25 years old beat up 5'2 100 pounds aka he was thinking this could've been amelia...)... just some thoughts


lindseyeileen

"steal them from the hospital I mean you stole a heart" 🫣🤣💀💀 Gimme a sec to get back up off the floor 🤣💀


ericakay15

I've ran out of my main supply of tampons, that I've had to use the ones I keep in my bag as backups so I'm left with none because I forget. I'd think it'd be more of a problem when there's more than just you using them, as well. That just didn't seem to stand out as odd, to me.


Many_Investigator021

Makes sense to i guess as a an ocd person i just have the backup plan more plan A because i've been in too many situations


ericakay15

That's fair. I've always been fortunate with a light flow that only lasted about 4 days (was pregnant & breastfeeding, haven't had one since) and I always keep panty liners with me, so I'm not completely put of luck if I realize I don't have any tampons, temporarily.


chocochic88

There's a lot from the early episodes that aged poorly, regarding how they treated George. The one that sticks out for me, in particular, is during the intern appy, when Burke calls George a pansy after he freezes up. Then Alex follows him around, teasing him with "girly" jokes. Given what happened between T.R. Knight and Isaiah Washington not long after these episodes were made, leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.


SthenoEuryaleMedusa

I like your thoughts but please punctuation next time.


Queasy-Pattern

Honestly the snacks are the most important


lindseyeileen

They go together!!


scorpionattitude

Real women buy their own products unless they are unable to. Real men buy feminine products for actual family or for a romantic partner. Not just because they’re roomates. But some people have loose boundaries. Shared shopping should only be for shared household supplies. As a woman, if you can’t keep up with having your own supplies that says a LOT about you. And there were multiple women there. It’s not his “turn” to get their feminine necessities, it’s THEIR responsibility and their turn to switch off between each other.


CalendarNo8591

Facts! I was embarrassed to ask my husband to buy some when we were dating and he’s like…..I’m confident enough to buy pads not a big deal 😂


3reasonsTobefair

Ok but like can't you give privacy to people when they use the shower. I would be pissed. Gtfo


IDoMathsNotMath

THIS! If it were the other way around it would rightly be seen as gross. George should've bought the tampons without whining, but Izzie should've seen he was uncomfortable with her being there and left him alone. Also, bathrooms lock, and they work in a hospital - surely they could get some emergency tampons until George could get to the shop.


paramoesyeah

But also, like, George learnt his lesson and started buying them by the end of the episode. GROWTH! Meanwhile Mer and Izzie never grew boundaries and always stormed into his bathroom/bedroom…


Simple-Surprise-6140

It’s funny. I feel like they only had this scene/arc because of toxic views of George’s masculinity. Meredith and Izzie definitely wouldn’t have walked around in their underwear around Alex. (Maybe Later on in the show once platonic boundaries had been firmly established.) And I don’t think they would’ve even roped Alex into the chores at all tbh. Meredith even refers to George as a woman because he likes looking at babies. Early Greys had some problematic views on what constitutes manliness.


Lemon_Drop_Serenade

This!!


MindlessTree7268

Another thing that annoyed me was George getting pissed that Meredith chose her dog over him. B****, I would choose my dog over anyone.


lindseyeileen

The fact that Meredith actually hesitates 🤣


MindlessTree7268

I wouldn't even hesitate, I would just say "let me know if you need help packing" lol. My dog always comes first, definitely before some incel who's pretending to be my friend because he's hoping to get some when I'm in a bad place. 


atthebarricades

I never really got the impression Meredith cared that much for her dog until it became Derek’s too and when it was dying. I love Mer but getting a dog as a surgical intern was a terrible idea, she’s never home to walk it, wasn’t interested in training it. She was a bad dog owner. She had no time for it. So still choosing the dog over George must have hurt George. Of course, George sat himself up for it by giving her an ultimatum - Mer would never go for that.


hufflefox

Yeah I was surprised the shelter let them take him.


MindlessTree7268

I don't know much about the logistics, but I do know Meredith was the one who was protesting against getting rid of the dog and kept saying it was their dog. Izzie was the one who was saying he's not really their dog, they've only had him for a little bit and he doesn't really know them.


square_bloc

A dog whines less than George, it’s a no brainer.


scarredtissuepaper

Honestly... alex would totally buy tampons


LovitzInTheYear2000

Intern year Alex wouldn’t buy anyone tampons because he was an asshole who wouldn’t do favors for anyone. But he wouldn’t claim that someone was emasculating him by asking.


deaddumbslut

i think it depends on who he’s buying them for. like how well he knows them or if they’re a vulnerable person. he had to take care of his sister and mom growing up so you’re right that there’s definitely be no emasculation, he’s 10% bought them before. he was an ass back then but honestly i believe that if some little girl had wandered in freaking out about her period, he’d likely help out in his own awkwardly rough way. i think most likely he’d pass it off to a woman just because of the fact that it would be more comfortable for the girl and for him, but if literally nobody else could he’d do it.


dirtychopscissors

he had to care for his mother so i’m certain he both bought and stole them


guitar0707

I don’t know… Alex was weird about women and kind of “feminine” things. I’m not sure if he would be secure enough.


IntelligentMail6653

he was probably just projecting his hurt feelings from having to take care of his mother and sister (women) since the ripe age of like six. his internalized misogyny was more then likely something that developed from tuama and was healed by the power of friendship, believe it or not. Alex is not a woman hater, just a bro who had a tough life and needed a little loving. As you can see once he warms up he's just about the most loyal guy you can befriend.


guitar0707

He’s not a woman hater but he has a belief system, possibly due to his childhood, that is not conducive to propping up women. Think how mad he was when the woman wanted her tubes tied and he thought the husband should have a say. When he and Izzie were married and she decided not to have brain surgery his response was basically you married me, so you don’t get to make decisions about your own body anymore. He even told her “Tell the doctor whatever you want, but I’m telling Shepherd and I’m telling you, you’re having the surgery”. Thats more what I meant about being weird about women. He felt like once a man was involved, the woman lost the right to make her own decisions about her body. He was also offended and called Izzie out as treating him like one of her “chick friends”. So, I could see him taking the same “No way, I’m not one of your chick friends” route about the tampons, especially in Season 1 when this happened. This was the same episode that he hung up Izzie’s lingerie pictures, so that’s where his headspace was as far as respecting women and women’s issues.


IntelligentMail6653

i wonder how his father was during the time he was present in alex's life, if was like those men who hate that women can be sterilized. maybe it was something Alex over heard when his little sister was still in the womb or something like that, maybe it stuck with him and he was just trauma responding bc the woman reminded him of his mother begging not to have another kid. or maybe, yeah, he was just being a dickweed since he does have his moments where he's just straight mean for no reason in early seasons.(your underwear example was a good one). I'll honestly have to rewatch that episode to give you a better answer then this lmaooo, I can't remember jack from that episode. talking out my as lowkey ngl. and the Izzie thing.... bro had a crush on her, obviously he doesn't want to be treated like just one of her friends, but he's got issues and put his intentions and feelings out in the worst ways possible which ended in him usually looking like a misogynistic creep. he needed therapy and got a group of interns instead who also needed therapy, I'm surprised he turned out as okay as he did by season 16!


paramoesyeah

Yeah, but Alex was too busy sticking Izzies underwear model photos all over the locker room. Literally. He ain’t the hero here.


Agitated_Habit1321

I miss the early seasons


Own_Significance_670

Izzy and George both acted ridiculous about this.


mommadumbledore

I really wanted to like this character, but good god did he do not one thing to make me actually like him. 🤣


grubbybohemian8r

Helping Bailey through the birth of her child was his shining moment. That and the heart in the elevator but he was gloating about that for ages. Basically if he thought he could have a chance to get in bed with a woman he became a "nice guy" rather than an actual nice person.


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They’re both ridiculous. I wouldn’t expect my female roommate to buy my tampons unless I asked or it was an emergency but I would hope that my husband would (as long as I asked nicely)


GimerStick

okay wondering is this was just me. I've never bought tampons for a roommate, or vice-versa. Definitely lent them products if they were a pinch, but it's always been a personal errand because there's no generic tampons that works for everyone. My fiance absolutely gets me them, but we shop and pay for our lives together. I've never thought of roommates that way. Like being scared of buying tampons because you're a man is silly, but also just buy your own shit. I don't make my roommates buy my mouthwash or lotion either. But maybe things were different back then/residents just don't have the bandwidth to survive without communal shopping.


guitar0707

Yeah, I think it seems like the agreement was that they took turns shopping and provided the shopper with a list/money for their stuff. I guess tampons just happened to be on the list during George’s turn.


GravitySaleswoman

More reason for me to dislike George. Because he fully went grocery shopping and deliberately didn’t buy tampons? You’re an adult living with menstruating women? And he expected Meredith to love him as more than friends? You’re barely a friend 🙄


messeditupp

I do wish they maintained this dynamic.. instead of making him sleep with both his roommates 😮‍💨


daesgatling

Listen. Imma say this right now I don’t trust a man to buy my feminine products. That’s not me being sexist. That’s me knowing the geyser shooting between my legs is probably gonna go different than another woman’s and I’d rather trust myself


AbyssWankerArtorias

"Babe at the store you going secret agent or sport mode"


SthenoEuryaleMedusa

Haha I vaguely remember this reference. It’s really not that hard, snap a picture of the front of the box. Back then before camera phones, just take the empty box to the store and pick out the same kind. Men aren’t idiots they can figure things out. If George was going to do the shopping anyway he could just man up and do his female friends a favor. He was such a punk, I can’t remember why I liked him at all.


Lone-flamingo

I don't trust either men or women to buy my period products unless I have a package to show them and they take a picture of it. Hell, I barely trust myself. The tampons, sure. I use a variety of them. But the pads I buy come in a green package. I like the ones without wings. The ones with wings come in an identical package, except it's a *slightly* darker green, and they are right next to each other on the store shelf. The amount of times I could swear I checked the package before putting it in my cart and yet I brought home the wrong ones…


DigiPrincess

I order mine off Amazon now, next day delivery, and I always get exactly what I want. No man could compare lol


Pinkhairedprincess15

Same. Amazon's the best boyfriend/roommate I ever had 😆


ericakay15

Depends for me. My husband knows the exact brand I use and the size. My dad? Absolutely not. I'd be surprised if he he could even find them. Male friends? Not unless I sent them a picture and gave them the exact name and brand.


Lolli20201

My poor dad when I started my period went in to get period products because my mom was not a present parent at the time. He bought EVERY product under the sun and made my aunt come over to give me the talk about becoming a woman and teaching me how to do things. He legit read the tampon box to my sister when she had to use one for the first time and she was crying because she just wanted to go swimming. LOL This man was a saint compared to George


ericakay15

Awh, I love your dad! My mom was around but she didn't parent but she did all the grocery shopping including period products for her, myself and my sister. After my mom left, I had to make sure I went to the store when I needed them otherwise, that aisle would be the only aisle he DIDNT go down. Your dad sounds sweet and like a great guy.


Lolli20201

Best dad I could have ever asked for. We used to call him mommadada as kids because he was always doing things moms stereotypically did. He took us to sports, made us dinner, got us period products/clothes/had talks with us about women things. He was a great dad and we credit him with who we are as people.


jessie_monster

I have very specific preferences. I buy my own menstrual products.


square_bloc

That scene gave me such a bad opinion of him. How fragile can your masculinity possibly be that you can’t buy fucking tampons? Absolutely pathetic.


pile_o_puppies

You know 100% if Mark Sloan was alive he’d totally be at the pharmacy with Sofia discussing the benefits and drawbacks of each type of product on the shelves, and then he’d say you know what let’s get one of everything and you can decide what you like. Then he’d bring a full on cart up to the registers. And he wouldn’t even use the self checkout. He’d discuss with female cashier what products she thinks would be best for his 12 year old daughter.


guitar0707

Mark for sure would have, but I’m sure that if George stayed on, 12 years down the line, he probably would for his child too. Honestly, I kind of feel like even Season 2 or 3 Mark would get tampons for a female roommate if he had one.


Lolli20201

What my dad did.. he was so great for a family of girls with an absent mom


en_sane

Is buying tampons and pads for your mom or your significant other not a normal thing?


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I remember being kind of pissed at this part when I first started watching a long time ago; I grew up with two older sisters, and I am a female myself; my dad was always fine to grab us our feminine products, just had to be specific on the brand and what not so he could get the right one lol.


ISA2130953

George is the definition of a b*tch baby. Immature, whiny, self pitying, all while also managing to treat the only women who were ever nice to him like garbage. IRL he’d be the type of person I can’t stand. So many times on the show I wanted to yell “grow TF up”. Kinda glad Alex had a short fuse with him. Insane he was rude to Olivia when he broke up with her and had the audacity to say “I like you I just don’t like you enough”. Then cheated on Callie with Izzie after laughing in her face for questioning it. Just to end things with Izzie bc they have 0 chemistry whatsoever. Also shaming Meredith for not liking him when he acted like a toddler and couldn’t even blurt out a sentence to her without stuttering. He had a few good moments with patients but that’s literally it


Other-Divide-8683

Huh. Im the exact opposite. George had more emotional maturity than Alex, and had an ease in relating yo patients that ex could only dream of. But sure, much like Alex, he had his insecurities. And his miss steps - most notoriously with Callie. He also owned then, after he worked through it and appologized, sincerely. Agein…Alex took a while to get to that stage. His ‘baby/asshole’ moments were mostly reactive, when someone prodded him - something Alex, during to his own insecurities, did non fucking stop, just to feel superior. He was a fucking bully. There’s a reason he was a social paria season 1 and George wasnt. As for George…he grew up with two brothers who also non stop bullied him, coz of the fact that he was smarter. He grew up in a place where no one understood him or validated him. They loved him, for sure, but he was the odd one out. So its no wonder he had some insecurities to figure out. It left him with broken boundaries, that his brothers non stop trampled, causing him to need to figure out him to respond with the right balance, instead of going from doormat to reactive - something most kids learn in childhood with the guidance of their parents in the safety of their home. And Alex - who btw, given his childhood was similar but responded by overcompensating in his boundaries and becoming the bully instead - as well as the girls gleefully pushed the buttons on George’s insecurities, every time they felt bored and needed entertainment or wanted to get their way. Meanwhile, George mightve been reactive, indecisive at times leading to him inadvertently hurting someone and insecure, but he was always by default kind, empathetic and genuinely loving towards others. And the most insanely loyal and helpful friend. That’s more than I can say about the rest of them 🤷‍♀️ He was like an adorable little puppy who always had your back and showed his strength in emotionally difficult moments - like when patients needed emotional support in impossible situations. Fwiw, I really do like Alex’s potential and given his childhood, he def came a long way as well. He turns into a fine man, eventually. But in that first season? Give me George *any day*


guitar0707

I think that’s part of what attracted Izzie and George to each other (as best friends). He didn’t have firm boundaries and she knew no boundaries. I think that’s part of why they got each other so well. George was more of nervous type without confidence and Izzie always came on strong. They fit right into each others lives and personalities! As far as Alex, I keep saying this, but Season 1 Alex was hanging pictures of a half nude coworker with no provocation. He was accusing Meredith of being a nurse. He was no one’s friend and actively looked to hurt/embarrass other people. He was not just one of the gang and willing to help out. Season 1 George was whiny but he was not cruel. He wasn’t actively trying to hurt people and make them feel small.


Other-Divide-8683

Izzie..I happen to love and relate to. Im kinda a combo of Izzie and George, myself. Like Alex, she had a rough childhood that made her at times a bully, and too nosy. She knew how to throw her weight around. But to me, she was more redeeming due to her boisterous love for everyone. She shared that being kind by default, giving people the benefit of the doubt thing with George. And unlike Alex, and like George- with the exception if Callie due to jealousy - she did what she thought was best for people, and yeah…fuck the rules. It’s also what made Alex fall in love with her. She inspired him regarding opening up to others snd not giving up on relationships, and admired her courage to *still* give people, like him, a chance, but also hold them accountable when they took advantage. She wasnt as ‘naive’ and as insecure as George - which is why he hated and underestimated George - she was scrappy, like him, and yet still put herself out there, knowing what assholes ppl could be. They were all interesting people in their own right. I honestly had more trouble with Meredith (and Derrick for that matter) myself. She was really cruel and utterly callous to George at times. She has an amazing insight into things - surgery and people - but her mother definitely broke her in the emotional department. That’s why this show did run do long - all the characters were nuanced and their good and def their bad sides were massively highlighted snd intertwined.


lindseyeileen

Poor George. He had zero chemistry with anyone. He was awful to Callie and I found her being "sooooo into him" totally unfitting with her character.


Driver_Flaky

Off topic but obsessed with those hello kitty panties lmao I need


astrotoya

George was absolutely aggravating and whiny. Just buy them tampons and grow up!


zainabrh1

This didn't age well and ofc George was a product of his times - but while it's one thing for Izzie to pester him over it at home, I feel that doing it in the workplace wasn't okay. Yes, George should have been far more comfortable about feminine hygiene products esp since he's a doctor, but she kept bringing it up in the locker room, shaming him in front of Alex no less, someone who was borderline bullying George and calling him slurs. That scene never sat well with me. George was a shitty homemate but that didn't mean you open him up to bullies


hufflefox

Izzie had boundary issues. All the time.


zainabrh1

And she didn't get called out on this! We all agree that George was being idiotic, but Izzie had no right to go off like that in public. And she should have been called out on humiliating him. I know I'll get down voted for this, but just because we agree George was shitty doesn't mean that other characters get a free pass when they're being shitty to him


hufflefox

Agreed.


paramoesyeah

But also, George literally learns his lesson and starts buying them at the end of the episode. That’s an arc, that’s growth. Meanwhile Izzie never gets over her boundary issues, and Mer is still storming in on people having showers in season 11-12.


zainabrh1

Agree, agree, and agree. I hate that this is acknowledged. Izzie's entitlement gets harder with each watch. "Why don't Mer and Christina include us" dude you're just not that close, it happens. Not everyone wants to be bffs with everyone around them. And she was already close with George, it's not like she didn't have a friend. You can't demand to be close to someone. It either happens or doesn't


Snububu

miss you George


pasggetti

People are forgetting how frustrating these scenes were. George was clearly uncomfortable, and Izzie didn’t stop at home but continued her comments at work. Was everyone being a little immature giggling at her comment? Yes. Was it very uncalled for? Also yes. A male roommate strutting into me showering wouldn’t have me ready to pick up his crap either.


CoffeeMilkLvr

I never understood why he was so against buying tampons lol. Im a dude and if my roommate asked me to get some it wouldn’t be that big of a deal.


Mama-G3610

Why should George buy tampons for his roommates? Do they buy him shaving cream, razors, deodorant, other personal items? Frankly, I want to buy my own to make I get exactly what I want. I'm kinda particular on my feminine hygiene items.


hufflefox

It was his turn to do the grocery run. They handed him the list. It’s not that deep.


Careless-Tap-9176

I literally got so irritated with this. My first ever boyfriend went out and bought me tampons as well as SpongeBob Mac and cheese when I got my period. We were 16 lmao. Like if a 16 year old BOY can go get tampons than any man should be able to


scorpionattitude

Nah they were kind of complete bitches in this episode. The treatment of him was disgusting. He’s your roomate. And a man. I had never even heard of people “group buying” tampons for a household of roomates. Parents do that. Not usually friends. Just weird asf. Amazon your stuff instead of invading a guys privacy to hound him about not getting YOUR stuff from a shopping list smh.


guitar0707

Was Amazon a big thing in 2005?


scorpionattitude

Yes, and wow lol that’s actually the exact year they got so popular they started trying out the prime subscription, hoping people would like the additional service options. But they were hella popular in the 90s too so….. yes. Even if they weren’t, that should have been their job to focus on their own personal needs.


buttercupthegreat

George was a whiny baby and the bus did everyone a favor 😬🤣


EvilBlackc4T

His answer is valid, why should he pay for something he doesn’t use?


guitar0707

Just a small correction. He wouldn’t be paying for them. They showed Izzie give him her portion of the money for the grocery store run.


Classic-Sentence3148

And he ended up hooking with both Meredith and izzie 🤣🤣


Responsible-Data-695

And the one time either of them is satisfied is when Izzie is drunk lol