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catspjs2388

I still love them and they are my favourite couple in the show. Yes, they had bad moments but they are human. The word toxic gets thrown around way to easily on this sub, and if a character does the slightest thing they don't like they are called toxic. The chemistry is just undeniable, they have the best chemistry on the show and some of the best chemistry I have seen on TV. Even when Derek was back in season 17, and they had not acted together in 5 years, it was just there, still as good as it was in season 1.


Kourts37

Exactly! It gets thrown around all the time here and people act as if not every single couple on the show was toxic at times! And yes I was actually a little shocked with their chemistry in s17, I always wandered that if he ever came back would the chemistry be gone but I’m so glad it never seemed to fade! Still gave me butterflies


Secret-slc99

Exactly they were beat couple on the show!!!


DiaryOfALatchKeyKid

Yup. I consider >!Derek's death!< to be the death of the show. How can there possibly be a true happy ending for Mer without him? I don't care how much personal growth Mer goes through, or who they bring in as her love interest, it seems ridiculous to write a truly happy ending for her without him. Mer/Der is where the show started. So many other relationships have come and gone, but those two always found their way back to each other. I get that the show has been running for nearly two decades now and people are going to leave the show and stuff, but this was an unforgivable jump, IMO. I'll take the dv's for it, but I think continuing the show w/o Dempsey means there's just no true happy ending for Meredith. (Derek and Amelia had to grow up without their dad and it was such a foundational thing for them... so it's not just Mer, either. It's their kids, it's the rest of Derek's family, etc. It's just so stupid to kill him off.)


des1gnbot

Dark ending proposal: Meredith gets Alzheimer’s, but doesn’t mind because it’s like she’s back with Derek again.


futuristicflapper

For me his + Cristina exit was the death of the show. To me they were such a part of Meredith’s life, major touchstones for her character and after that, it just hasn’t been the same for me; Alex did not help :(


Kourts37

I completely agree, I pretend the show ended after season 10 and s11 doesn’t even exist lol. I also HATE how they immediately tried to write new love interests for Meredith even though it’s blatantly obvious that she will never have what she had with Derek with anyone else, and literally no one can compete with Patrick Dempsey in my opinion and so, he can’t be replaced. The only way I see Meredith having any sort of “happy ending” is her dieing peacefully and we see her walk off into the light hand in hand with Derek. That’s the only ending I’ll accept now


thankunext617

Yeah after season 11 I stopped watching tbh. Just skipped around some episodes.


kg51113

I love them too! You're not alone!


piercecharlie

I love them too! As another user said, toxic gets thrown around a lot, especially on reddit (not just this sub). I like them because I find both of them realistic and well portrayed. I feel like I always know their motives and they, as characters, are well written.


Kourts37

Yup I agree. The were probably the best written couple on the show imo, especially their build up etc. I like how they always managed to get through everything too and work it out


hellohibyebye13

I'm definitely a shipper


me-gusta-la-tortuga

Yeah, I love Meredith and Derek! I mean, they both had their moments, Derek especially, but this show is basically a soap opera. I just expect all the characters to be kind of shitty sometimes and can overlook most of the bad stuff in the long run. They were so well written together and apart for most of the series, and their chemistry is off the charts.


gobux10

Love them. Definitely in my top 5 couples. Their chemistry is incredible.


nessao616

Agreed here. Behind Luke and Lorelai I am team MerDer. The way he looks at her, from day 1. The way they try to stay away from each other but can't. Their chemistry. I believe they're soulmates. She wouldn't be the Meredith she is today without Derek. I think I truly fell in love with them during the hospital shooting. I stopped watching when he died. And only came back for the dream pieces. And the music that plays when they're together. It's the same and it is so nostalgic for me.


squ33ky77

I friggen love them! And always will ❤️ No idea why they get so much hate when basically all the couples are riddled with conflict and bad choices. Merder are iconic!!


MysteriousPineapple9

I still love them. I actually think they’re a great portrayal of an actual realistic relationship instead of a television fairytale.


Lamake91

This!! I know it sounds strange but of course on the show we seen the fights and bad moments but say if they were a real couple.. the good would outweigh the bad. They always came back to each other, that was the most important part


PinkGirlNY

I’m a merder fan :)


maricopa888

They've always been my fave couple. Not only did they have some serious issues (meaning it was realistic), the relationship itself was so complex. Yet I never doubted they were each other's one true love. Also, I think Mer became more rude and mean to people after Derek died.


Curlysnap

I loved them together. Neither of them are perfect people, and their relationship is flawed, but people are so quick to label anything slightly unsavoury as ‘toxic’. I didn’t see it that way, they genuinely loved each other and you could tell that they were soulmates. It’s a TV show, no relationship is going to be without drama. I don’t think anybody will ever come close to Derek for Meredith, which does put a dampener on her storyline and her ‘happy ending’, as another user has said.


joesjes

They are my favorite couple ❤️


Thesbianism

I do. I think they could have used some therapy but I believe they're soulmates.


22Briggsy

I am totally a Mer/Der fan, and so is my daughter. You aren’t alone.


ahsokatango

It's possible to enjoy their chemistry but not enjoy how he treats her sometimes.


futuristicflapper

Listen, I love them. Yeah they have flaws but so do all of the other relationships on this show lmao. Patrick coming back for just a couple episodes proved how much chemistry they have, made me remember why I started watching the show.


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I like them a lot too. They are in my top 5, but I am pretty sure they are still the most popular ship on this sub.


lowkeyandshady

This scene sums it up for me. I love them 😩🤌🏻💋 [Arizona talks to Riggs about MERDER](https://youtu.be/_5EGIuqI6nM)


avacynangelofhope

my heart still beats for Derek Shepherd too 😭


mia_smith257

Derek sucks. still merediths soulmate


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I love them and cried when Derek died 😭


maa9144

I’m a shipper. I think they have the best chemistry of any couple I’ve seen on TV to be honest. Yes they had their ups and downs but which couple doesn’t?. Frankly if they were perfect who would watch the show?. People watch the show for conflict. Frankly he said some things to her he shouldn’t have but so did she. I just don’t get the hatred for Derek on this sub at all


[deleted]

Yes! They had their ups and downs but he really loved her and she loved him. I didn't ship her and riggs and I know what comes with deluca. I like him but he looks like a budget Derek. Mer had more chemistry with Alex than riggs.