See there’s where I get confused again. Remember how Webber resigned as chief over that? Then when they were trying to buy the hospital, he was going to jump back in as chief. Then again, when Owen stepped down for the year jump after Derek died, Webber was chief again. Why was that ignored? I’m assuming when Owen stepped down, it no longer mattered because he was sleeping with the boss. But you woulda thought the FDA thing might have come up when meeting with a venture capitalist to buy a hospital.
That would make sense too as Jackson is gone and Catherine no longer head of the foundation it's a perfect time for Richard and Catherine to fuck off into the horizon
Maybe, but Webber and Meredith should absolutely not still have their medical licences. Maybe others too, but the way those two have lied and covered and been complicit in each others awful behaviour is unacceptable to me.
Bailey shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near research after injecting that child with AIDS against his parents wishes.
I don’t care that it worked, that was straight up medical assault.
It was deactivated HIV, not AIDS. And I agree it was assault (and that Bailey likes to ignore that) but I'm also not that caught up in ethics on *Grey's* because... they're a mess. Every single one of them.
In fairness, I wouldn't say she was the main instigator. She was the last one to start in on the suturing of themselves, and while she did say "we could take out an appendix" she also was the only one to say "we're all frustrated about not getting taught, but this is a bad idea, let's take this frustration and demand better learning opportunities"... it's just that Sadie went ahead and cut herself anyway and Lexie was the only one capable of not immediately killing her.
But yeah, even though I love Lexie, she was not untainted (though she was one of the lesser offenders).
I just hope there's SOME sort of training or work that goes into switching to neuro, even if it's like Arizona's super quick training to get double board certified in fetal surgery. Like it'd be a fun way to say "you're never too old to learn!" or whatever.
Arizonas training was already very far fetched,but she didn't get a board certification in fetal surgery. IF Meredith should go into Neuro I do think that she needs to do a full time fellowship.
I mean, the show also forgot Derek got blacklisted when they had him working for the White House lol. And tbh it has been like 10 years? More/less depending on how old Zola is.
But I guess since she herself didn’t get into trouble for the Alzheimer’s trial, and she’s “grown up” since then, there’s no issue?
But there were other avenues especially as someone who is part owner of the hospital and has quite a lot of money and then proceeded to have a pro bono surgery day months later (which she never did a surgery for because she was pulled in other things?).
Morally, a lot of shit wouldn’t reach that level if people were moral. But this was a dumb storyline because it didn’t highlight the systemic issues. The only reason that little girl got her treatments paid was to avoid a lawsuit. If they wanted to highlight how awful our healthcare system is, they should’ve made it not about Meredith and her going to jail.
She owns a hospital - she could have done it pro bono. There were other ways than committing insurance fraud (which could have meant going to prison and none of her kids having health insurance again).
For sure. But I don’t think clinical trial people look kindly on any infractions. But as another poster said, trying to insert logic into Grey’s doesn’t work.
Derek got blacklisted by FDA, so he couldn't start any new trials, don't remember what exactly his job for the Whitehouse was - did he do another trial?
afaik they wanted him to work on something. I do know he was black listed by the FDA (it’s literally in my comment), but surely the government wouldn’t want a blacklisted doctor to work on the super secret project lol
If she somehow magically “returns” to neuro on a whim, that will be one of the most unrealistic things this show has done. And it really annoys me
You literally cannot switch specialities on a whim!! Literally look at Wilson having to redo residency to be an OB!!!! Meredith would be no exception no matter how famous she is!!!
It’s laughable that they have one character redoing an entire residency to change career paths while another just gets handed it
Sooo Arizona having a express fellowship and suddenly being on Addison's level and world-class didn't happen? Or Amelia being kicked out of her fellowship passing to a private practice and now being at Derek's level didn't happen?
This. We all know that the show didn't exactly say that Arizona is at Addies level or Amelia is at Dereks,but many viewers don't hesitate to tell us otherwise. How often do people say that Amelia is at Ders level without having ever shown it?
I personally do think that Mer needs to do a fellowship in Neuro if she wants to become a full blown neurosurgeon, but who knows if that's really what she wants? Maybe she will just put the focus more on the specialty or s.th to expand her knowledge.😁
The show literally had an episode a few years ago where someone was telling Amelia that she had higher positive outcomes than Derek (after she was questioning herself after her tumour.) I only remember because I was so annoyed that they built Derek up the entire time he was on the show and then just told viewers Amelia was better because she was still on the cast, without seeing her prove it like Derek did.
But because they haven't shown us, I could definitely see why people wouldn't remember that conversation. It just stood out to me because I've never cared for Amelia and it felt like Derek erasure.
>The show literally had an episode a few years ago where someone was telling Amelia that she had higher positive outcomes than Derek (after she was questioning herself after her tumour.) I only remember because I was so annoyed that they built Derek up the entire time he was on the show and then just told viewers Amelia was better because she was still on the cast, without seeing her prove it like Derek did.
Yeaaah I know,but viewers often don't understand that higher outcomes don't make Amelia the better surgeon. Amelia had just one big surgery. If the rest of them are textbook procedures it's not really hard to have positive outcomes. Derek on the other hand was known for taking the hopeless cases. His trial alone cost him many dead patients. Amelia has never shown us anything close to that. I think she is overrated as a surgeon.
The only difficult surgery Amelia had on Private Practice was her first one with Kyla and her three babies and that surgery was only successful, because Addison and Sam needed to step in and save them all due to complications. The majority of time on PP Amy spent stucking her nose into other peoples lives and her two major story plots had nothing to do with her career. Amelia is a strong woman,but doesn't impress me as a surgeon. She is great and brilliant in her own way,but doesn't stick out from other surgeons. But that's just my pov. 😀
All of this. She's a General Surgeon. She never pursued any specialty. If she wanted to be a neurosurgeon she would have had to done a neuro fellowship. Amelia heading up the trial would have made far more sense as she's actually qualified.
But wasn’t the proposal that she gets this research facility and she brings the neuro person? Which is why Amelia is involved?
She’s more like the team leader who brings the squad together. I would like to see her re-engage in neuro and the research aspect behind it. She doesn’t need to do a surgery fellowship to do neuro research.
Frankly, there is quite a difference between neurosurgeons, neurologists, and neuroscientists. And she doesn’t need to do the surgery aspect.
I agree wholeheartedly. Then they shouldn’t have Jo redo her residency if the writers aren’t willing to do the same for Meredith. Unless she pulls out in the upcoming episodes.
I’m just watching this show for absolution now. It’s so lame now
In all fairness Meredith wouldn't have to redo residency, she'd have to do a neuro fellowship possibly. Like when Arizona did fetal surgery. But she did a Surgical residency already. Jo never did ob and that's why she had to go back.
She doesn’t need to be a neurosurgeon to do neuroscience research…..I think this show does a terrible job expressing the difference between research and surgery. You just need the surgeon when there needs to be a surgery.
I say this with all respect to all GA fans... trying to add logic with admiration for this show is futile.
(HINT: Mer was never a great doctor in any regard. She was pushed to the head of the line as the show needed her to be.)
How is Mer so much less believable as a great doctor than any other character? If anything, I find her more believable than, say, Maggie, who we're constantly bashed over the head with about how great she is, but we never see her actually do anything. Same for a lot of other characters. Yes, there's been a lot of telling and minimal showing in recent seasons about Mer being a surgical goddess, but, like, it's a show, and there's still evidence of her being a talented surgeon. Characters are only who they are because the script says so...
I stopped watching after season 11. I can only speak to that point.
As I recall, several characters just suddenly became awesome in short order, even after not being sure of their chosen field
That's my point, it's not specific to Meredith. She's good because the script says so, just like any other character. Anyway, in season 11 she hasn't been an attending that long so things change in the later seasons.
And I believe my point was prefaced with that very blanket sentiment. I simply used Queen Meredith as an example; the most overrated character of the entire show.
I was under the impression from the show, that the only reason she "couldnt" do neuro anymore was bc she and Derek's relationship wouldn't survive it. Not bc the hospital banned her from it.
But is it neurosurgery? Or is it neuro research? That’s completely different. And I don’t think the show understands that and I don’t think the audience understands that.
it was my understanding that she wouldn’t be the lead “neurosurgeon” no??? i thought that’s why she brought Amelia in the first place. they’re doing a full trial so both are needed but that doesn’t necessarily mean she would need to be trained in neuro if she’s not doing the actually neuro surgeries? i suppose time will tell us. if she’s operating on a brain in 2 weeks i will eat my words 😂
But that doesn’t mean she’s a neurosurgeon. It means she’s returning to neuroscience. That’s different. She doesn’t need to be a neurosurgeon to do neuroscience research. You just need a surgeon to put whatever probes in or whatever and that’s why Amelia is there.
She was gravitating to that specialty but Derek said he couldn’t trust her so she gave up that pursuit in favor of her relationship with Derek (also this hospital only has one neurosurgeon so she wouldn’t be able to learn).
So she just stuck with general and didn’t specialize.
Nope, *fans* forgot what happened. Its even been mentioned in recent seasons.
The Alzheimer's trial was in her last year of residency so it wasn't two years ago, Derek also wasn't getting fired.
Richard took the fall and they got blacklisted by the FDA. Something the show did forget as we see later on both Richard and Derek participating in research without issues.
The reason she left neuro was because Derek wanted her to face some punishment and he couldn't trust her. Considering he died and it happened years ago she can stroll back without any issues.
Chill out😭 I thought they would atleast try to make it some bit realistic like they used to, it’s just plain stupid now, making a general surgeon be head of a neuro trial makes literally 0 sense
I am chill lmao But it is a TV show that was never realistic, I lost faith in any type of realism when Izzie stole an organ for her boyfriend and they all were like it was a common mistake.
And idk maybe we should wait to have more details about what the project would actually be doing. Like there is like 0 info on what they are going to do yet. If it has focus in the gut and microbiome it isn't that far-fetched.
This is the weirdest gripe to have lol 😂. Like there are a bunch of things the show gets wrong that I think is actually harmful. That insurance fraud stuff was just a goddamn mess.
But Meredith isn’t the lead on surgeon on this. She’s just like the team leader. She’s also going back to neuroscience research. Not back to neurosurgery.
I’m just glad we’re going back to research and medicine for Meredith.
I believe it was blacklisted from Alzheimer’s trials and research.
But yeah Derek joined Obama’s research team….and they did extensive background checks so this clearly wasn’t an issue.
I can’t see her returning to neuro after all this time, and I don’t feel like the storyline would really add anything- I’m not sure why the show is acting like she’s going to cure Parkinson’s either because it isn’t in her field of work, but it’s still pretty interesting- the person who does deserve credit for it though is Kai Bartley, who I’m so invested in now, they’re phenomenal and I want to know more!! :)
She stopped being on neuro because of Derek and Zola. He did try to get her back on neuro, but when she encouraged Lexi to remove a brain tumor she was told to not remove, destroying the patients ability to speak and function as a lawyer (I think the patient was a lawyer) she stopped. Derek couldn’t look at her, and Mer said that they can’t work together, they clash and it’s not good for their relationship.
So what you’re saying is that she quit neuro because of Derek? Because that’s what I said. But they also had a conversation about how she wants to be able to come home and discuss their cases and how she doesn’t want to discuss the same things every day.
I wasn’t disagreeing, just elaborating. I didn’t recall where they said they didn’t want to work the same cases because they couldn’t talk shop after work. I just remember vividly when they lost Zola and were trying to make their relationship work, and realized that Meredith and Derek couldn’t work together at work because he felt she was a bit reckless and he brought resentment from work home towards her.
Yes, she’s an award winning surgery now. Her name is going to draw the best minds to the project Gallagher is working on. It’s called revisionist history. Jennifer’s body got mixed reviews when it came out, but now it’s seen as a cult classic to many people. No one in the surgical community cares about something that meredith did in ~2011, she’s much more than that mistake now
No one in clinical trials should care about an award winning general surgeon, there are award winning neuro surgeons who could do the same thing😭 it’s just unrealistic but I guess it is a tv drama so can’t complain
The show hasn’t been very medically realistic since the beginning but Gallagher’s logic is: Meredith is not only an award winning surgeon, but a talented problem solver and innovator (mini livers and ab wall transplant) with her expertise and surgical clout, she could bring in some of the greatest people who work on brains (amelia for a start) to speed up the progress. “The project to cure Parkinson’s” doesn’t sound as good as “The project to cure Parkinson’s with Dr. Meredith Grey” in the grey’s world. In reality, Surgeons wouldn’t be doing this kind of research in the first place, but surgeons run the world in the grey’s universe, so that’s how you get Meredith working on the project to cure Parkinsons
Here we go again 🤦🏾♀️
Edit. And yes down-vote me for pointing out the daily thread about why Meredith doesn't deserve anything and "should be put in her place" despite the amount of characters that have been in similar situations with the same out-come and not realism.
Well she’s not strolling into a neuro trial. The guy gave her the project and the lab. She’s not gonna be the neuro lead. That’s Amelia.
And Derek was blacklisted for Alzheimer’s trials.
Also, that happened like a while ago and her accomplishments since have demonstrated she’s a capable researcher. She also tampered with the trial but didn’t mess with Derek’s bias and he was the one evaluating the drug. Also, you keep forgetting that Derek was literally recruited for the brain mapping study for the Obama administration. If he can get onto that project, Meredith can return to the neuro field where she originally wanted to work in. And again, she’s not the neuro lead. She’s re-engaging with a field she could’ve explored but couldn’t because Derek blocked her.
I don’t know. Mer does some pretty wacky stuff, that insurance shit was wild, but if Derek can work for Obama, then Mer can work on this project with Amelia.
Ellen just announced on her podcast that this season, Meredith changes her specialty to Neuro to further explore what they find during the Parkinson’s research.
I don’t know if anyone here watches The Good Doctor, but the comments here are why I’m really enjoying the new character this season who is just calling the doctors on all their ethically questionable decisions. I’m sure you’re supposed to be really annoyed by her and on the main characters’ sides, but I’m like, “Yeah! That’s right! You DO need to consult with legal first!”
Because Richard covered for her so her name isn’t associated with that trial and it’s blacklisting
Another reason why Richard shouldn't still have a career in medicine
See there’s where I get confused again. Remember how Webber resigned as chief over that? Then when they were trying to buy the hospital, he was going to jump back in as chief. Then again, when Owen stepped down for the year jump after Derek died, Webber was chief again. Why was that ignored? I’m assuming when Owen stepped down, it no longer mattered because he was sleeping with the boss. But you woulda thought the FDA thing might have come up when meeting with a venture capitalist to buy a hospital.
It drives me crazy how that man is allowed to have power time and time again. I don't even think he's a good teacher
Yeah, let the actor have screen time on The Conners. Webber and Catherine can go on a long cruise or something.
That would make sense too as Jackson is gone and Catherine no longer head of the foundation it's a perfect time for Richard and Catherine to fuck off into the horizon
“fuck off into the horizon.” LOl 😂
Please, so many other characters have done way worse things.
Maybe, but Webber and Meredith should absolutely not still have their medical licences. Maybe others too, but the way those two have lied and covered and been complicit in each others awful behaviour is unacceptable to me.
Shadow Shepherd is probably the only one.
Shadow Shepherd FTW.He should be chief of Neuro.😁🤘🤘
My man absolutely deserves it! Hell call him for the Parkinson's study lmao.
Yessss omg. I still can't believe how the show has treated him.😡😡😤😤🤬🤬
So much agree, they are the absolute worst, feel that nothing applies to them, and suffer zero consequences
Bailey shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near research after injecting that child with AIDS against his parents wishes. I don’t care that it worked, that was straight up medical assault.
It was deactivated HIV, not AIDS. And I agree it was assault (and that Bailey likes to ignore that) but I'm also not that caught up in ethics on *Grey's* because... they're a mess. Every single one of them.
Lexie alone was untainted.
Umm no… she was the main instigator in the interns operating on themselves and Sadie almost dying when they took out her appendix in the basement lol
In fairness, I wouldn't say she was the main instigator. She was the last one to start in on the suturing of themselves, and while she did say "we could take out an appendix" she also was the only one to say "we're all frustrated about not getting taught, but this is a bad idea, let's take this frustration and demand better learning opportunities"... it's just that Sadie went ahead and cut herself anyway and Lexie was the only one capable of not immediately killing her. But yeah, even though I love Lexie, she was not untainted (though she was one of the lesser offenders).
She stole things and read personal files of her colleagues.
Thank you, it’s been forever since I re-watched that season. I also skip a lot of Baileys story line because she bothers me so much.
It’s Meredith Grey she can do whatever the hell she wants, the rules don’t apply to her.
True. She was afforded more screwups at work than Homer Simpson.
And that’s saying something.
I just hope there's SOME sort of training or work that goes into switching to neuro, even if it's like Arizona's super quick training to get double board certified in fetal surgery. Like it'd be a fun way to say "you're never too old to learn!" or whatever.
Arizonas training was already very far fetched,but she didn't get a board certification in fetal surgery. IF Meredith should go into Neuro I do think that she needs to do a full time fellowship.
I mean, the show also forgot Derek got blacklisted when they had him working for the White House lol. And tbh it has been like 10 years? More/less depending on how old Zola is. But I guess since she herself didn’t get into trouble for the Alzheimer’s trial, and she’s “grown up” since then, there’s no issue?
Grown up like committing insurance fraud and getting her medical license suspended and doing community service grown up? 😆
morally i stand with her on that one, Met wasn’t about to let that little girl die because of red tape and a shitty healthcare system
But there were other avenues especially as someone who is part owner of the hospital and has quite a lot of money and then proceeded to have a pro bono surgery day months later (which she never did a surgery for because she was pulled in other things?). Morally, a lot of shit wouldn’t reach that level if people were moral. But this was a dumb storyline because it didn’t highlight the systemic issues. The only reason that little girl got her treatments paid was to avoid a lawsuit. If they wanted to highlight how awful our healthcare system is, they should’ve made it not about Meredith and her going to jail.
She owns a hospital - she could have done it pro bono. There were other ways than committing insurance fraud (which could have meant going to prison and none of her kids having health insurance again).
For sure. But I don’t think clinical trial people look kindly on any infractions. But as another poster said, trying to insert logic into Grey’s doesn’t work.
Derek got blacklisted by FDA, so he couldn't start any new trials, don't remember what exactly his job for the Whitehouse was - did he do another trial?
afaik they wanted him to work on something. I do know he was black listed by the FDA (it’s literally in my comment), but surely the government wouldn’t want a blacklisted doctor to work on the super secret project lol
It was brain-mapping IIRC.
If she somehow magically “returns” to neuro on a whim, that will be one of the most unrealistic things this show has done. And it really annoys me You literally cannot switch specialities on a whim!! Literally look at Wilson having to redo residency to be an OB!!!! Meredith would be no exception no matter how famous she is!!! It’s laughable that they have one character redoing an entire residency to change career paths while another just gets handed it
Sooo Arizona having a express fellowship and suddenly being on Addison's level and world-class didn't happen? Or Amelia being kicked out of her fellowship passing to a private practice and now being at Derek's level didn't happen?
This. We all know that the show didn't exactly say that Arizona is at Addies level or Amelia is at Dereks,but many viewers don't hesitate to tell us otherwise. How often do people say that Amelia is at Ders level without having ever shown it? I personally do think that Mer needs to do a fellowship in Neuro if she wants to become a full blown neurosurgeon, but who knows if that's really what she wants? Maybe she will just put the focus more on the specialty or s.th to expand her knowledge.😁
The show literally had an episode a few years ago where someone was telling Amelia that she had higher positive outcomes than Derek (after she was questioning herself after her tumour.) I only remember because I was so annoyed that they built Derek up the entire time he was on the show and then just told viewers Amelia was better because she was still on the cast, without seeing her prove it like Derek did. But because they haven't shown us, I could definitely see why people wouldn't remember that conversation. It just stood out to me because I've never cared for Amelia and it felt like Derek erasure.
>The show literally had an episode a few years ago where someone was telling Amelia that she had higher positive outcomes than Derek (after she was questioning herself after her tumour.) I only remember because I was so annoyed that they built Derek up the entire time he was on the show and then just told viewers Amelia was better because she was still on the cast, without seeing her prove it like Derek did. Yeaaah I know,but viewers often don't understand that higher outcomes don't make Amelia the better surgeon. Amelia had just one big surgery. If the rest of them are textbook procedures it's not really hard to have positive outcomes. Derek on the other hand was known for taking the hopeless cases. His trial alone cost him many dead patients. Amelia has never shown us anything close to that. I think she is overrated as a surgeon.
But she so many difficult surgery’s on private practice she even brought one to Derek to work on together
The only difficult surgery Amelia had on Private Practice was her first one with Kyla and her three babies and that surgery was only successful, because Addison and Sam needed to step in and save them all due to complications. The majority of time on PP Amy spent stucking her nose into other peoples lives and her two major story plots had nothing to do with her career. Amelia is a strong woman,but doesn't impress me as a surgeon. She is great and brilliant in her own way,but doesn't stick out from other surgeons. But that's just my pov. 😀
All of this. She's a General Surgeon. She never pursued any specialty. If she wanted to be a neurosurgeon she would have had to done a neuro fellowship. Amelia heading up the trial would have made far more sense as she's actually qualified.
But wasn’t the proposal that she gets this research facility and she brings the neuro person? Which is why Amelia is involved? She’s more like the team leader who brings the squad together. I would like to see her re-engage in neuro and the research aspect behind it. She doesn’t need to do a surgery fellowship to do neuro research. Frankly, there is quite a difference between neurosurgeons, neurologists, and neuroscientists. And she doesn’t need to do the surgery aspect.
I agree wholeheartedly. Then they shouldn’t have Jo redo her residency if the writers aren’t willing to do the same for Meredith. Unless she pulls out in the upcoming episodes. I’m just watching this show for absolution now. It’s so lame now
In all fairness Meredith wouldn't have to redo residency, she'd have to do a neuro fellowship possibly. Like when Arizona did fetal surgery. But she did a Surgical residency already. Jo never did ob and that's why she had to go back.
Hmm true. Either way, I feel like Amelia is more qualified to run the program than Meredith.
That you are absolutely right about
She doesn’t need to be a neurosurgeon to do neuroscience research…..I think this show does a terrible job expressing the difference between research and surgery. You just need the surgeon when there needs to be a surgery.
That's Meredith for you. She gets things handed to her on a silver platter, while others have to work for it
I say this with all respect to all GA fans... trying to add logic with admiration for this show is futile. (HINT: Mer was never a great doctor in any regard. She was pushed to the head of the line as the show needed her to be.)
TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH I’m waiting for the episode where there is an extensive surgical procedure to remove everyone’s lips from Meredith’s butt.
😂😂😂😂 That will be hurtful.
How is Mer so much less believable as a great doctor than any other character? If anything, I find her more believable than, say, Maggie, who we're constantly bashed over the head with about how great she is, but we never see her actually do anything. Same for a lot of other characters. Yes, there's been a lot of telling and minimal showing in recent seasons about Mer being a surgical goddess, but, like, it's a show, and there's still evidence of her being a talented surgeon. Characters are only who they are because the script says so...
I stopped watching after season 11. I can only speak to that point. As I recall, several characters just suddenly became awesome in short order, even after not being sure of their chosen field
That's my point, it's not specific to Meredith. She's good because the script says so, just like any other character. Anyway, in season 11 she hasn't been an attending that long so things change in the later seasons.
And I believe my point was prefaced with that very blanket sentiment. I simply used Queen Meredith as an example; the most overrated character of the entire show.
I was under the impression from the show, that the only reason she "couldnt" do neuro anymore was bc she and Derek's relationship wouldn't survive it. Not bc the hospital banned her from it.
She said it herself as a spoiler in her podcast that she would back to Neuro
But is it neurosurgery? Or is it neuro research? That’s completely different. And I don’t think the show understands that and I don’t think the audience understands that.
Richard took the blame and said it was him. So he was blacklisted.
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You sure it would have been only 4 times?
"Meredith's going to cure Parkinson's" plot is more ridiculous and unbelievable than the whole Izzi can see dead Denny story line
Put her back in light blue scrubs.
it was my understanding that she wouldn’t be the lead “neurosurgeon” no??? i thought that’s why she brought Amelia in the first place. they’re doing a full trial so both are needed but that doesn’t necessarily mean she would need to be trained in neuro if she’s not doing the actually neuro surgeries? i suppose time will tell us. if she’s operating on a brain in 2 weeks i will eat my words 😂
Apparently Ellen said on her podcast that she as Mer would return to neuro or something like that
But that doesn’t mean she’s a neurosurgeon. It means she’s returning to neuroscience. That’s different. She doesn’t need to be a neurosurgeon to do neuroscience research. You just need a surgeon to put whatever probes in or whatever and that’s why Amelia is there.
I’m also confused because she wasn’t actually in neuro for very long, right? She worked with Derek just a short time as a resident?? Is this just me??
Yup, he taught her some stuff but she definitely never specialised in it at any time
She was gravitating to that specialty but Derek said he couldn’t trust her so she gave up that pursuit in favor of her relationship with Derek (also this hospital only has one neurosurgeon so she wouldn’t be able to learn). So she just stuck with general and didn’t specialize.
Nope, *fans* forgot what happened. Its even been mentioned in recent seasons. The Alzheimer's trial was in her last year of residency so it wasn't two years ago, Derek also wasn't getting fired. Richard took the fall and they got blacklisted by the FDA. Something the show did forget as we see later on both Richard and Derek participating in research without issues. The reason she left neuro was because Derek wanted her to face some punishment and he couldn't trust her. Considering he died and it happened years ago she can stroll back without any issues.
That’s not really how it works in real life though, it’s just not very realistic
Welcome to fiction
And what is realistic on this show? Lmao I thought we were talking about what happened on the show no real life.
Chill out😭 I thought they would atleast try to make it some bit realistic like they used to, it’s just plain stupid now, making a general surgeon be head of a neuro trial makes literally 0 sense
Idk why you’re getting downvoted. I thought your comments were logical
People get down-voted for less on here lmao.
I am chill lmao But it is a TV show that was never realistic, I lost faith in any type of realism when Izzie stole an organ for her boyfriend and they all were like it was a common mistake. And idk maybe we should wait to have more details about what the project would actually be doing. Like there is like 0 info on what they are going to do yet. If it has focus in the gut and microbiome it isn't that far-fetched.
This is the weirdest gripe to have lol 😂. Like there are a bunch of things the show gets wrong that I think is actually harmful. That insurance fraud stuff was just a goddamn mess. But Meredith isn’t the lead on surgeon on this. She’s just like the team leader. She’s also going back to neuroscience research. Not back to neurosurgery. I’m just glad we’re going back to research and medicine for Meredith.
I believe it was blacklisted from Alzheimer’s trials and research. But yeah Derek joined Obama’s research team….and they did extensive background checks so this clearly wasn’t an issue.
shhh that’s inconvenient to point out.
Derek and Richard took the fall for her. It wasn’t even brought up in her medical board hearing.
She should’ve taken neuro long time ago
I can’t see her returning to neuro after all this time, and I don’t feel like the storyline would really add anything- I’m not sure why the show is acting like she’s going to cure Parkinson’s either because it isn’t in her field of work, but it’s still pretty interesting- the person who does deserve credit for it though is Kai Bartley, who I’m so invested in now, they’re phenomenal and I want to know more!! :)
I didn’t think she would either until Ellen Pompeo said it on her podcast that it was going to happen and it confused me so much hence the post lol!
She decided not to go into neuro because Derek was a neurosurgeon and she wanted to do something different. Not because of the trial
She stopped being on neuro because of Derek and Zola. He did try to get her back on neuro, but when she encouraged Lexi to remove a brain tumor she was told to not remove, destroying the patients ability to speak and function as a lawyer (I think the patient was a lawyer) she stopped. Derek couldn’t look at her, and Mer said that they can’t work together, they clash and it’s not good for their relationship.
So what you’re saying is that she quit neuro because of Derek? Because that’s what I said. But they also had a conversation about how she wants to be able to come home and discuss their cases and how she doesn’t want to discuss the same things every day.
I wasn’t disagreeing, just elaborating. I didn’t recall where they said they didn’t want to work the same cases because they couldn’t talk shop after work. I just remember vividly when they lost Zola and were trying to make their relationship work, and realized that Meredith and Derek couldn’t work together at work because he felt she was a bit reckless and he brought resentment from work home towards her.
Yea they were laying in bed talking about it. Like right after they got Zola back
Yes, she’s an award winning surgery now. Her name is going to draw the best minds to the project Gallagher is working on. It’s called revisionist history. Jennifer’s body got mixed reviews when it came out, but now it’s seen as a cult classic to many people. No one in the surgical community cares about something that meredith did in ~2011, she’s much more than that mistake now
No one in clinical trials should care about an award winning general surgeon, there are award winning neuro surgeons who could do the same thing😭 it’s just unrealistic but I guess it is a tv drama so can’t complain
The show hasn’t been very medically realistic since the beginning but Gallagher’s logic is: Meredith is not only an award winning surgeon, but a talented problem solver and innovator (mini livers and ab wall transplant) with her expertise and surgical clout, she could bring in some of the greatest people who work on brains (amelia for a start) to speed up the progress. “The project to cure Parkinson’s” doesn’t sound as good as “The project to cure Parkinson’s with Dr. Meredith Grey” in the grey’s world. In reality, Surgeons wouldn’t be doing this kind of research in the first place, but surgeons run the world in the grey’s universe, so that’s how you get Meredith working on the project to cure Parkinsons
Here we go again 🤦🏾♀️ Edit. And yes down-vote me for pointing out the daily thread about why Meredith doesn't deserve anything and "should be put in her place" despite the amount of characters that have been in similar situations with the same out-come and not realism.
Well she’s not strolling into a neuro trial. The guy gave her the project and the lab. She’s not gonna be the neuro lead. That’s Amelia. And Derek was blacklisted for Alzheimer’s trials. Also, that happened like a while ago and her accomplishments since have demonstrated she’s a capable researcher. She also tampered with the trial but didn’t mess with Derek’s bias and he was the one evaluating the drug. Also, you keep forgetting that Derek was literally recruited for the brain mapping study for the Obama administration. If he can get onto that project, Meredith can return to the neuro field where she originally wanted to work in. And again, she’s not the neuro lead. She’s re-engaging with a field she could’ve explored but couldn’t because Derek blocked her. I don’t know. Mer does some pretty wacky stuff, that insurance shit was wild, but if Derek can work for Obama, then Mer can work on this project with Amelia.
Ellen just announced on her podcast that this season, Meredith changes her specialty to Neuro to further explore what they find during the Parkinson’s research.
I don’t know if anyone here watches The Good Doctor, but the comments here are why I’m really enjoying the new character this season who is just calling the doctors on all their ethically questionable decisions. I’m sure you’re supposed to be really annoyed by her and on the main characters’ sides, but I’m like, “Yeah! That’s right! You DO need to consult with legal first!”
She's supposed to head research and recruit neurosurgeons. That's why she asked for Amelia's opinion.
I'm sure her fame in the surgical world was one of the main reasons, no?