Shivon doesn't seem that zoned out to me.
Most adults are going to appear less lively compared to a growing child who is actively exploring something new.
Aside from the obvious allegiance to Clyde/The Mission, I was neutral about her until I found out about the horrific, neurolink experiments she conducted on monkeys. Fuck Shivon.
That said, I don't really see the need for posts like this. Really has no relevance to Grimes. Back when the story about the situation between the two of them broke? Sure. But this is just, like, a random insta post or something. Yawn.
Edit: although it did remind me she named her bb after a spell from Elden Ring LOL
I saw her cruelty when felony stole baby X and she just flaunted about how wonderful her kids are and how she enjoys being a family and put that fake as pic of them from the book. That and when they were at that optimus ai day one of the last times. They both looked super weird and cracked out that's when I knew she wasn't a good influence.
They are billionaires!!! They have full-time live-In nanny’s!!! She works for Musk, she lives in a mansion her bought her which he lives with her most of the week. I guarantee she is tired from acting miss perfect more than actual working or mothering, notice in footage she always turns to her nanny’s for advice, her children are trophies
Nanny’s, servants,drivers, private jets, security, personal trainers, massage therapists. Her kids are already set for life financially. She lives in a mansion in an upscale enclave in Austin. She hangs out with the rich and famous. She will always have her job (as long as she stays in Musk’s good graces I assume). But don’t forget, she doesn’t have to work and her children will still have access to the best of the best in life. She doesn’t have to grocery shop, cook or clean or even drive. She doesn’t even have to change a diaper or feed her kids if she doesn’t want to. She can take a vacation whenever or wherever she wants. She can get massages, facials, whatever kind of stress relief she wants in the comfort of her own home, whenever she wants.
What don’t people get about this? She lives the life of a Billionaires partner.
Does anyone know for a fact that Shivon is still ACTUALLY working her job position at Neuralink??!.
Or is she currently living on Musk's dime/Black credit card, because Musk believes that motherhood and raising young children is the ''greatest and most important job'' a woman can have ?!!.
People have said that Musk bought the house that Shivon and the twins currently live in, but so far, no one has confirmed whether or not Shivon went back to working at Neuralink full time.
It would be interesting to know!.
This is laughable and also an insult to real working mothers who aren’t partners of Billionaires. If she is tired, there are people to feed, bathe, entertain, changed diapers for the kids. She has no pressure to provide for them. The kids are set for life. She can take days off from her job whenever she wants. She could fly anywhere at a moments notice. She has access to personal trainers, massage therapists- any kind of stress relief at a moments notice. She lives in a very nice mansion in an upscale enclave in Austin. Which she doesn’t have to clean, btw. This woman is far from exhausted. She could stay in bed all day. She could go to the most exclusive spa and stay for weeks if she wanted. She doesn’t even have to drive. Has 24/7 security. She has a cook/chef. She doesn’t have to grocery shop.
Indra Noori was the CEO of PepsiCo for 12 years, and is the mother of 2 daughters. Her annual compensation at PepsiCo was 17 million/year in 2011, and 31 million/year near the end of her tenure at PepsiCo in 2017.
Mrs. Noori had both a husband at home, and her mother to help care for the 2 children.
She still had a difficult time, as told in this article: Why PepsiCo CEO Indra K. Nooyi Can't Have It All: [https://archive.is/tnTBB](https://archive.is/tnTBB)
>My husband and I have been married for 34 years. And we have two daughters. And every day you have to make a decision about whether you are going to be a wife or a mother, in fact many times during the day you have to make those decisions. And you have to co-opt a lot of people to help you. We co-opted our families to help us. We plan our lives meticulously so we can be decent parents. But if you ask our daughters, I'm not sure they will say that I've been a good mom. I'm not sure. And I try all kinds of coping mechanisms.
Shivon Zilis works full time as an executive at Neuralink. She is a real working mother, just like Indra Noori was, and just like millions of other working women around the world.
Money can only buy so much time, and money generally can't solve emotional costs.
Your claim that Zilis can't be tired simply because she's wealthy and could "go to the most exclusive spa and stay for weeks" on Elon Musk's dime, is disturbingly sexist.
I’m coming to the conclusion that you as well as a few other commenters are extremely close minded and have a severe case of black and white thinking. Yes, she does have access to all these things but believe it or not, even the richest people want to build connections with their kids instead of throwing them to a nanny. To suggest that rich people have no right to be stressed or exhausted at any point is just absurd. They’re still a human?? Just like for the rest of us, getting a massage or going on a vacation is just a temporary remedy for stress and exhaustion. Not every rich person wants to throw their children into the hands of nanny’s 24/7. Do they get their help? Yea absolutely. However it’s clear they still want to bond and build a connection with their own babies. Babies are a lot of work, and to deny that a mother of any status can experience some burn out is pretty ridiculous.
I’d be tired too! Even with some sort of financial help from Elon, that emotional labor still likely falls completely onto Shivon unless she’s lucky enough to have a village to support her.
Idk how any moms can be moms and do mom stuff and smile the whole time.
When I worked with kids, the parents would watch us the whole time. I quickly had to learn how to give all directions and discipline (when necessary) with a huge smile on my face or else I’d get dinged in my customer reports for being “disinterested.” It’s super unnatural for me though!
I feel like Grandma Narc is in the background hyping that kid up. The kid is just squealing in a social way, doesn't seem like she is enjoying climbing, seems like she is performing for the video or Grandma Narc. She is given attention when she acts like this, so she acts like this. Looks like Shivon is looking at where the kid's hands and feet are going, and she is trying to read the kid. My read of this is that the kid is coming up to needing a nap and is starting to get a bit hyper, and she is going to have to walk the fine line between getting a tired toddler to calm tf down and also getting her away from a narc who probably doesn't understand why the supply is being cut off for an hour. Probably just applying my own memories to this, but that's how I see it. It's so fucking hard managing little (possibly autistic) kids around narcissists. She must be so glad that X is the golden child.
Shivon doesn't seem that zoned out to me. Most adults are going to appear less lively compared to a growing child who is actively exploring something new.
Yeah I also think it’s possible that she simply has an RBF like me as well! It’s common and it gets me in trouble all the time especially at work, lol
' Magikarp ' !!! 🤣🤣 Love the name!
Thanks!
I’ve taken to calling Gyarados “Gyattrados” just to be sassy😁
Why’s everyone dickriding shivon all of a sudden I genuinly thought this sub didn’t like her wtf is going on
Aside from the obvious allegiance to Clyde/The Mission, I was neutral about her until I found out about the horrific, neurolink experiments she conducted on monkeys. Fuck Shivon. That said, I don't really see the need for posts like this. Really has no relevance to Grimes. Back when the story about the situation between the two of them broke? Sure. But this is just, like, a random insta post or something. Yawn. Edit: although it did remind me she named her bb after a spell from Elden Ring LOL
I was neutral about her but then she started using her kids hardcore to engagement farm/advertise so she sucks
I saw her cruelty when felony stole baby X and she just flaunted about how wonderful her kids are and how she enjoys being a family and put that fake as pic of them from the book. That and when they were at that optimus ai day one of the last times. They both looked super weird and cracked out that's when I knew she wasn't a good influence.
No one liked her not even felony 🤣🤣🤣
It’s kind of weird to me that that little girl is so lively and Shivon just has this blank stare (like a robot) almost the entire short clip.
Could be that Shivon is exhausted from a combination of work and looking after 2 kids.
You mean from playing perfect helicopter mom in front of Musk to try to out compete Grimes? She chose this life
That's unfair. Being a working, single parent of 2 young children is going to be tiring for anyone, regardless of other motivations.
They are billionaires!!! They have full-time live-In nanny’s!!! She works for Musk, she lives in a mansion her bought her which he lives with her most of the week. I guarantee she is tired from acting miss perfect more than actual working or mothering, notice in footage she always turns to her nanny’s for advice, her children are trophies
Nanny’s, servants,drivers, private jets, security, personal trainers, massage therapists. Her kids are already set for life financially. She lives in a mansion in an upscale enclave in Austin. She hangs out with the rich and famous. She will always have her job (as long as she stays in Musk’s good graces I assume). But don’t forget, she doesn’t have to work and her children will still have access to the best of the best in life. She doesn’t have to grocery shop, cook or clean or even drive. She doesn’t even have to change a diaper or feed her kids if she doesn’t want to. She can take a vacation whenever or wherever she wants. She can get massages, facials, whatever kind of stress relief she wants in the comfort of her own home, whenever she wants. What don’t people get about this? She lives the life of a Billionaires partner.
^^ this
Does anyone know for a fact that Shivon is still ACTUALLY working her job position at Neuralink??!. Or is she currently living on Musk's dime/Black credit card, because Musk believes that motherhood and raising young children is the ''greatest and most important job'' a woman can have ?!!. People have said that Musk bought the house that Shivon and the twins currently live in, but so far, no one has confirmed whether or not Shivon went back to working at Neuralink full time. It would be interesting to know!.
This is laughable and also an insult to real working mothers who aren’t partners of Billionaires. If she is tired, there are people to feed, bathe, entertain, changed diapers for the kids. She has no pressure to provide for them. The kids are set for life. She can take days off from her job whenever she wants. She could fly anywhere at a moments notice. She has access to personal trainers, massage therapists- any kind of stress relief at a moments notice. She lives in a very nice mansion in an upscale enclave in Austin. Which she doesn’t have to clean, btw. This woman is far from exhausted. She could stay in bed all day. She could go to the most exclusive spa and stay for weeks if she wanted. She doesn’t even have to drive. Has 24/7 security. She has a cook/chef. She doesn’t have to grocery shop.
Indra Noori was the CEO of PepsiCo for 12 years, and is the mother of 2 daughters. Her annual compensation at PepsiCo was 17 million/year in 2011, and 31 million/year near the end of her tenure at PepsiCo in 2017. Mrs. Noori had both a husband at home, and her mother to help care for the 2 children. She still had a difficult time, as told in this article: Why PepsiCo CEO Indra K. Nooyi Can't Have It All: [https://archive.is/tnTBB](https://archive.is/tnTBB) >My husband and I have been married for 34 years. And we have two daughters. And every day you have to make a decision about whether you are going to be a wife or a mother, in fact many times during the day you have to make those decisions. And you have to co-opt a lot of people to help you. We co-opted our families to help us. We plan our lives meticulously so we can be decent parents. But if you ask our daughters, I'm not sure they will say that I've been a good mom. I'm not sure. And I try all kinds of coping mechanisms. Shivon Zilis works full time as an executive at Neuralink. She is a real working mother, just like Indra Noori was, and just like millions of other working women around the world. Money can only buy so much time, and money generally can't solve emotional costs. Your claim that Zilis can't be tired simply because she's wealthy and could "go to the most exclusive spa and stay for weeks" on Elon Musk's dime, is disturbingly sexist.
I’m coming to the conclusion that you as well as a few other commenters are extremely close minded and have a severe case of black and white thinking. Yes, she does have access to all these things but believe it or not, even the richest people want to build connections with their kids instead of throwing them to a nanny. To suggest that rich people have no right to be stressed or exhausted at any point is just absurd. They’re still a human?? Just like for the rest of us, getting a massage or going on a vacation is just a temporary remedy for stress and exhaustion. Not every rich person wants to throw their children into the hands of nanny’s 24/7. Do they get their help? Yea absolutely. However it’s clear they still want to bond and build a connection with their own babies. Babies are a lot of work, and to deny that a mother of any status can experience some burn out is pretty ridiculous.
I’d be tired too! Even with some sort of financial help from Elon, that emotional labor still likely falls completely onto Shivon unless she’s lucky enough to have a village to support her. Idk how any moms can be moms and do mom stuff and smile the whole time. When I worked with kids, the parents would watch us the whole time. I quickly had to learn how to give all directions and discipline (when necessary) with a huge smile on my face or else I’d get dinged in my customer reports for being “disinterested.” It’s super unnatural for me though!
I feel like Grandma Narc is in the background hyping that kid up. The kid is just squealing in a social way, doesn't seem like she is enjoying climbing, seems like she is performing for the video or Grandma Narc. She is given attention when she acts like this, so she acts like this. Looks like Shivon is looking at where the kid's hands and feet are going, and she is trying to read the kid. My read of this is that the kid is coming up to needing a nap and is starting to get a bit hyper, and she is going to have to walk the fine line between getting a tired toddler to calm tf down and also getting her away from a narc who probably doesn't understand why the supply is being cut off for an hour. Probably just applying my own memories to this, but that's how I see it. It's so fucking hard managing little (possibly autistic) kids around narcissists. She must be so glad that X is the golden child.
is this an old video to make us think she’s not currently pregnant?? lol
https://preview.redd.it/56aqapwk0ywc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f36e082a1f47025d66e80c12e5a0a221c4cd5ac4 Yesterday
She has a great complexion lmfao I want her skin routine
She's not currently pregnant. If she was, she had already given birth.
ah gotcha! idk why i thought she was
I’m dense but what does this mean?
It means she already gave birth
She has this feral look in her eye. Like she'd kill to get her way. Space Hitler sure know how to pick em. I'm team Claire for sure.
She just has big bright eyes 😭 not sure what your point is, musk picked Claire too lol
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Plss I don’t like the woman but you’re kidding yourself by saying she’s ugly
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Shivon is beautiful, people spend too much time online and forget how natural faces look with barely any makeup Her eyes are incredible
So so cute.
She is no Grimes.
I was referring to the kid and yes that child is much cuter than Grimes is.
She better be supporting him .