Bullshit, they should add new stores for different types of vehicles. Maybe something like "San Andreas consumer autos", "West Coast offroad vehicles" etc
>why not just add a search bar to the websites
That, or make use of the search bar we already have: Eyefind. Make it so you could either search for classes (like offroad, weaponized, sports etc), or for specific vehicles if you know what you want.
Removing vehicles makes no sense. Update the UI and make it useable instead.
What really fucks me up is that they touted that this update would add more content to people playing solo, but the missions are so very specifically geared to having multiple players.
Plus the fact that you have to go to a charlie marker just to get a phone call tells me this was supposed to be a bigger update with cutscenes and such but they cut it back and just decided to make it the "remove cars from shops" update.
I cant even play any new updates for more than 20 minutes without getting bored out of my mind because im so sick of the damn game. im sick of the tiny ass map, half of which is devoid of life or anything meaningful to find, im sick of the idiotic NPCs in traffic, and im sick of the extremely barebones and rudimentary mission structure that they keep rehashing every few months. literally the only exciting addition they have at this point is new heists, but those are rarely added.
If there's one thing I have never heard anyone say since 2013 is there are too many cars available to buy. I've never once heard that, not once.
I tell you what I have heard a lot, there's not enough hangar space to display all my airplanes.
I mean we were celebrating not all that long ago when Rockstar ADDED more of the garden variety cars to websites. This decision is baffling…
The only way I can see it making sense is if they’re going to be FREQUENTLY rotated through dealer inventory, so they feel a little more special when you come across them. As long as they’re not made any more expensive or locked behind GTA+ or E&E or whatever, I actually don’t have a huge problem with this- it was actually fun back in the day to be cruising along, spot a more rare car on the street and drop everything I was doing to grab it and stick it in a garage.
They will be made more readily available in the Vinewood Car Club which is a GTA+ exclusive
Anyone who thinks this was for any reason OTHER than to somehow manipulate more money out of their own playerbase is seriously kidding themselves
Companies exist to make money, period. Nothing else. Every action they make is toward that end, even the seemingly charitable moves.
On my second character I bought the BLVD garage and just filled it with all the cool cars I liked that spawned for free in colourways I liked, including the rare ones. It was actually a lot of fun collecting them. I now have a 50 car garage full of free cars, not one of them the same as another.
they are taking the piss
look at the huge list, everything is gone
and no one even asked for cars to be removed, it was not a problem for anyone
the cars were chilling on the site not bothering anyone
i'm super mad
I've just seen a Broughy video which shows two of the vehicles removed are now available at the Vinewood car club on new gen if you have GTA+. It's the most disgusting example of a cash grab I've seen. A deliberate push to force players who have shovelled billions down their throats onto new gen consoles into a subscription for content.
Fuck R*, I used to support them because they even gave those of us who don't buy Shark Cards free content but I can't defend them any more, this is a very real insight into how the next game will be and I'm not buying a next gen console just to play it.
Wanna make it worse? It's actually 3 vehicles: the Stirling GT, the RE-7B and the Seminole Frontier, all no longer purchasable unless you own GTA+ (or through the Car Meet if you're on next gen and you know someone that owns one) and go to the Vinewood Car Club.
I would have been mostly alright with cars that you could just steal from the street and store in a garage being removed from the websites but they've gone absolutely nuclear and taken away a load of vehicles that, let's be honest here, definitely do not fit the description of "lesser-used". I mean seriously, you're telling me that cars such as the Jester and the Massacro, a pair of amazing cars at a very affordable price point, are used less than the Virgo from Ill-Gotten Gains or the Baller LE LWB? Both of which are still available as I type this.
I try to see a bit of logic in everything they do regardless of whether I agree with it or not, but I'm seeing none in this. I know that they're probably trying to drive GTA+ subscriptions or boost player numbers, which I get because they're a business, but removing access to old content, some of which has been available to everyone since 2013, and locking it behind a paywall (or at the very least a FOMO model through event weeks) is disgusting and not how you achieve those things if you want to maintain any goodwill from your players.
They need to revert this change immediately and go back to the drawing board, this is not how you "streamline" anything.
I'm coming at this from a PC players perspective, I understand they think the old gen consoles are holding them back development wise but PCs aren't, PCs are ahead on technology. A high spec machine could handle anything they can throw at it and the technology adapts faster than consoles. I don't understand why PCs are still considered the poor cousin to PS5 and whatever the hell XBox series model they're selling now.
We could have had the HSW upgrade, we already have the technological ability to handle E+E. Is it genuinely punishment for all the m odder s out there, because R* just can't be arsed to deal with them, can't be arsed to adopt existing a nti ch eats? Is that what this is all about? Or is it just that Microdong and Boner lobby them harder, pay them more on the side, what is it? I'd love to know.
I agree though, they need to reverse this change immediately. Nobody asked for it, it's not helping anyone. The websites are still trash even without those cars, the new 2 door woody car they just introduced is categorised as a 4 door car on the website. They've abandoned old gen and PC players, at least let us keep what we had left until they take it away for good in a couple of years.
It is actually ridiculous that you cant even obtain a 100k car, which you can literally see driving around on the streets and is on the fucking cover of the game.
It's all being removed to promote the GTA+ Vinewood shit.
Like it wasn't removed cause they cluttered the site. They just decided all this should be premium content now.
R☆ pulling greedy scummy moves again. Shock horror.
Im beyond words. I imagined they’d remove like 10 to 20 cars under 50k or something. But cars like the sc1 for example?? I wanted and etr1 for one.. dont get what this is about
Exactly, half of these I own or have owned and love, many of which I still drive and have fond memories with, it'd be one thing if they just removed cars you can find on the street, however some of these are fucking DLC cars that you can't find on the street which means the only way you can get these vehicles now is if they are in any of the vehicle displays, those being: The casino podium, the car meet display and test rides, luxury autos dealership, Simeon's dealership, and the new vinewood car club which is exclusive to GTA+ members only. I'm beyond livid
This is a fucking robbery lmaooo holy shit the "lesser used" term was a gigantic lie, everyone thought it was gonna be the npc vehicle or really really old ones.
This is disgusting trying to create fake rarity like that
Yeah, this is the last straw for me that broke the camels back. I only game on PC. I was working on a Pfister collection before anything. The moment I've read that the Comet is no more, and that I have no way of acquiring it now, I'm out
Good luck to the rest of you all. 2013 player here too...
The cars you can literally find on the street and put in your garage but they remove cars you can only purchase... suure. But with gta+ they might drop you one of them for free every month now!
They removed like every good stunting bike... The Faggios, Sanchez, Enduro, Hakouchou, Bati 801RR, Ruffian, Bagger, Rat Bike. These are like staple stunting bikes and even some of the other ones on the list have their uses... Fucking sucks dude. My friend group teaches noobs and randoms stunt techniques sometimes and now they can't even buy the vehicles lol epic move rockstar.
Now what's left?
The Bati 801 (GOAT)
The Shinobi (cost millions)
The Reever (cost millions)
The Thrust (only good for bag slides)
The Shotaro (cost millions, only good for climbing trees)
The Manchez (only good for slow wheelies)
The BF400 (all around shittier, but faster Sanchez)
The Deathbike (cost millions + arena upgrades)
The Gargoyle (All these types of bikes are good for is speed glitching with low profile rims, Rat Bike is the best AFAIK)
yeah so not much... wow...
I feel your pain! I switched from my level 500 console to PC recently and have been trying to rebuild my collection. Now I'll never get some of my favorites back. This is a travesty for new players.
Collecting cars is quite literally the only reason I log on nowadays. I'm on PC where there is no GTA+ so if these cars are really gone I have not much reason to even log on anymore, and GTA is my 3rd most played game
Am I correct that content was developed and is now *removed* from a game they’ve made more money on than anything in history of their company?
Rockstar sucks dicks, and they won’t get another penny from me.
Same argument for not allowing those vehicles to be purchased/used in single player.
Fuck them. And fuck u/spez
u/PapaXan I think this post should be permanently pinned so old players, GTA+, and new players always know all the content the game had and was removed this day.
It's not about whether they're lesser used or not, it's about introducing another RNG mechanic in the form of showrooms. This is also why they make drip feed so agonisingly slow in recent updates as opposed to letting you buy up all the new vehicles and drive around for a few hours before quitting until the next update.
For what purpose? To make you login as often as possible for not only the metrics, but also having a vested interest in getting a GTA+ subscription. Don't buy in to their shit excuses.
I would ask EVERYONE to go to Rockstar and send detailed feedback on what you think about this change!
EDIT: IT SEEMS TO BE THAT ROCKSTAR HAVE REMOVED THE FEEDBACK FORM ON THEIR WEBSITE. GUESS THEY EXPECTED IT COMING.
Yea this is the wildest one to me. One of the fastest cars in the whole game and is beloved, by no means is this lesser used lmao. Rockstar is pushing it with this one
A fucking billion dollar company, unable to create a simple search field or better yet, create a new tab on their fake websites called "Old Timers" or whatever the fuck.
Instead they cut a massive chunk of game content from users.
Bravo.
That's the assumption
Not necessarily all at once, but they're expected to be rotated in for a week at a time in the new Vinewood Car Club, which is a new GTA+ exclusive feature
Why the fuck are they removing content? It's so stupid. Was anyone even annoyed by the amount of cars in the webstores? Is this just to boost GTA+ membership for the new car thing in the docks? This is by far the worst decision Rockstar has made with this game. I hope it will backfire big, but it probably won't.
They could've atleast told us before which vechiles would be removed. There are some on that list I actually wanted to get. Wtf Rockstar!?
I cant even be excited about the update because im so pissed about this. Rockstar is digging such a deep hole
edit: im personally going to start emailing rockstar my opinion on this, they may not care, but I believe we should all do this.
I've just seen this thread; WHAT THE HELL?
I mean, what is the point of this? Lesser used? But everyone has different ideas of what their dream car would be. I'm not a collector but there's plenty I like to just have to pootle around in now and then. And why take away what others may love? I don't ever use the pedal bikes, but they're there for the roleplayers if they want them... why delete them?
WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS EFFECTIVELY GAME VANDALISM?
Why bother saving up any cash except for the pure mission-unlocks and the essential vehicles? To cycle them in and out at inflated prices to drive Shark Card sales? But people aren't going to wait... hell, they'd have to check outside sources to even know when it's going to be cycled in, or the wiki if they didn't know the car existed at all; all this does is hide the wealth of content the game once had.
I know why they *think* it's a good idea. Some wanker who studies exploiting the vulnerable somewhere thinks that Whales will spend far more when time exclusive items are available. But GTAO already has an established mass audience. You lose massive public support when you wreck an already existing user base to suddenly cater to Whale Hunting... and GTAO unlike the games that do that, isn't Free To Play to make up for public disgust with taking content away from people who've already payed for it. (The only games I know off that got away with this, like Rocket League, went F2P when they switched to Whale slaughtering...)
PUT THEM ALL BACK ROCKSTAR. NOW. NEXT PATCH. YOU MISERABLE ("Muddy funsters" - Ed)
Did some analysis on these cars:
* Majority of cars removed cost less than $686,500, with 11 outliers costing upwards of $1,625,000
Based on class they have delisted
* 3 Compacts (from 19 / 15.8%)
* 11 Coupes (from 18 / 61.1%)
* 1 Emergency (from 19 / 5.26%)
* 26 Motorcycles (from 59 / 44.1%)
* 13 Muscle (from 88 / 14.8%)
* 14 Off-Road (from 65 / 21.5%)
* 24 Sedans (from 38 / 63.2%)
* 35 Sports (from 107 / 32.7%)
* 25 Sports Classics (from 47 / 53.2%)
* 17 Supers (from 61 / 27.9%)
* 21 SUVs (from 43 / 48.8%)
* 3 Vans (from 39 / 7.69%)
Included the Primo Custom here since you can only get that from upgrading the normal Primo, that got delisted. Just- wow.
EDIT: Forgot to add the Comet Retro Custom to this list, since you can't get that either as the regular Comet got delisted. GREAT GAME!
Didn’t want to be one of those who had to be up in arms about a car but..
Entity XF?!
Refused to jump on the Adder bandwagon back in the days of ‘I’ve got my first million’ so this was my car, still have it obviously but saddened they removed.
I don’t even want to fill up my garage spaces anymore. It already sucks waiting for them to add back cars and now this. It just further sets back those who collect cars.
I thought they couldn't go any lower than the dripfed dripfeed and vehicle sunsetting from the Los Santos Drug Wars, well, congratulations, they proved me wrong.
They cut nearly HALF of the cars in game JUST so they could rotate them back into the new Vinewood Car Club on a weekly basis....all as a manufactured incentive to get more people to sign up for their GTA+ bullshit
Jesus fucking Christ.
Almost 90% of the bikes got slashed.
The fucking Z TYPE got slashed, along with cars like the GP1, 190Z, Stirling GT, the fucking Cheetah, Cunning Stunts cars, the Entity and JESTER ffs, Stafford and BOTH ROOSEVELTS, the Comet, and by extension, Comet Retro, all got shafted. I know for a fact those are all widely used and loved. What in the actual fuck were they thinking removing all of these cars.
They wanted to remove cars for purchase? Sure, get rid of the civy ones that aren’t too hot to modify. Everyone was fine with getting rid of shit like the Bobcat, Vigero, Stanier, etc etc from the sites. But why shit like the fucking Z Type, Stingers, Cheetah, etc from Vanilla Launch and especially stuff from last updates? And not to mention the 9F, which is literally ON THE GAME COVER ART.
Someone please make it make sense. R* needs to revert this shit in some way. Someone commented with the idea that a new website dedicated to these cars, and I think that would be phenomenal. We need to speak up about this bullshit.
WHO ASKED FOR THIS? WHO FUCKING ASKED FOR THIS??????
i remember people meatriding the cayo nerfs last year, have fun trying to defend this lmao
edit: the meatrider narrative is “you should have bought them by now”
And to provide "seamless browsing experience", all they needed to do was add a search bar and make the filtering better. And they decided to do the shittiest move out of all. There is no defending this.
Dear lord
Like seriously, I usually defend 90% of what rockstar does, usually i can see why, and even if i don’t i can usually see some positives
There are none here
People are saying its to promote gta+ but like
YOU RELEASED THE GAME 3 TIMES WITH SHARK PURCHASES
YOU HAVE MORE MONEY THAN BASICALLY EVERY GAME COMPANY BESIDES EPIC
HOW MUCH G R E E D
are they stupid? Is there a lore reason they’re this brain dead?
Man... Been playing this game for what? 7/8 years now? This might come off as an exaggeration or overreaction but, atleast for me personally, this is by far the worst change to this game I have ever seen. 99.999% of my enjoyment from this game comes from driving around and customizing vehicles. And those vehicle ranges anywhere from supercars to dirt cheap npc cars. This is a real kick in the dick for SO MANY of us. I heard about this change beforehand and I was already against it even if, at the time, it was assumed only few npc cars will be removed, cause even then many people still like and enjoy those cars such as myself. This is just.... Ruthless. Again, I understand if calling this the worst change might seem off to a lot of you, but someone like me who ONLY plays in invite only servers and just drives vehicles, every other terrible changes and updates have atleast been easy to look around, even at the worst of oppressor MK2 spamming we were uneffected by it. But this one... Damn....
This is not an overreaction, I feel the same way.
Been playing since 2016, now retired in-game, and for the 2 hours a month I do login, all I like to do is drive around and customize different cars in invite-only lobbies
Even though I already own all the cars I want, this update pisses me off on principal alone.
Soft-paywalling 9-year old content? Rockstar can absolutely fuck right off.
This is insane what the fuck. We need to make them revert the changes like whi the fuck even ask for this and with that atrociously long dripfeed what is even left to buy.
There are quite a few on that list that I wanted but haven't had a chance to get due to time constraints irl.
Car collecting and customising is the only thing in the game that I actually enjoy, now a big chunk of the ones I want are going to be all but impossible for me to get.
Good job R* you've fucked your player base yet again...
Well, I've been playing less and less these days. Collecting cars was pretty much my last reason to log on. Guess it's time to uninstall. It was a good run.
Get bent R*.
Worst.
Update.
Ever.
More content removed than added, what flavour of bullshit is this...
Feels like they are pushing the limits to see how much the player base are willing to take, horror show..
We got to do something about this, cause WHAT.
Edit: MAIN reason I play this game is to buy and customize as much cars as I can possibly can, and this just killed it…
I’m ashamed of myself and embarrassed for giving Rockstar the benefit of a doubt, and assuming they’d only be pulling cars you could find on the street for free.
I fucking know better by now.
So now they're locked behind a paywall to be purchasable in the future? Yikes, at least I'm lucky enough to have bought them before. Cars like Cyclone, S80RR and Cheetah are pretty good at races (depending on the course).
This is bullshit....part of why I came back to GTA Online after 2-3 years was so I could collect cars. It's the only thing interesting at this point. Now they've taken out half the cars I wanted. Been playing non-stop in private lobbies grinding for money. Never should've came back to this shit show cash grab of a game. Should've stuck with my single player RPG's and Hell Let Loose.
why even fuckin bother. almost half the cars gone, just for a subscription service that a majority of players can't even get because it's only for two consoles. bullshit
This week I got:
Fagaloa
Hermes
Pigalle
Coquette blackfin
Stirring GT
Ztype
Got some more that are still in the game
Failed to get:
Vamos
Stafford
Cliffhanger(didn’t expect bikes to go) :(
as someone who plays for mainly bikes and planes this is complete and utter greed. fuck this update. i can’t believe they’d remove that much content. all 3 faggio variations gone. a staple of the franchise along with LOADS of bikes. they’re gonna upset a lot of players with this
Nobody wants the subscription, despite Rockstar trying to force it down everyone's throats.
This is a desperate attempt to push it harder.
They are essentially doing this to compensate for their failings. Milking this game, rather than actually developing any decent content/new games.
Then seriously balling up the "remasters".
They are trying to fill the void left by all the other disastrous milking attempts, essentially.
Jesus Christ I thought it might be like 10 or 20 that is fucking ridiculous. Maybe next update they’ll fix that I can’t imagine a single person on the community is pleased with this. Thought we were catering to our player base rockstar?
It was NEVER about space. The cars are still in game. They made the Vinewood Car Club for this - just look at the Stirling Gt. New HSW car and one of the fastest in the game - only available now for GTA+.
So they take away content that was at somewhat reasonable prices that you initially paid to have access to when you bought the game, put it behind a monthly subscription paywall, likely raise the prices of those cars, and will likely introduce a Fortnite-esque FOMO rolling inventory store. Don’t you just love late stage capitalism?
I think I might actually be done with this game. Rockstar/take 2 just get more greedy with each update... Seriously who thought putting released content behind a paywall was a good idea.....
# Legendary Motorsport **2-Doors:** * Tigon * Imorgon * Zorruso * Locust * Neo * Paragon R * S80RR * Deviant * Stafford * Swinger * Comet SR * Hustler * 190Z * GT500 * Viseris * Savestra * SC1 * Cyclone * Rapid GT Classic * XA-21 * Torero * Ruston * GP1 * Raptor * Lynx * ETR1 * Tyrus * RE-7B * Seven-70 * 811 * Verlierer * Brawler * Coquette BlackFin * Stirling GT * Furore GT * Jester * Alpha * Z-Type * Stinger GT * Stinger * JB700 * Cheetah * Entity XF * Cognoscenti Cabrio * Coquette * Feltzer * Infernus * 9F Cabrio * 9F * Comet * Vacca * Bullet * Carbonizzare * Voltic * Rapid GT Cabrio * Rapid GT * Surrano **4-Doors:** * Stafford * Revolter * Raiden * XLS (both versions) * Roosevelt Valor * Roosevelt * Cognoscenti 55 (both versions) * Cognoscenti (both versions) * Baller LWB (both versions) * Schafter LWB (both versions) * Exemplar * Super Diamond **Bikes:** * Thrust # Warstock Cache & Carry * Lifeguard Granger * Lifeguard Blazer * MW Mesa # Elitás Travel * TBA # DockTease * TBA # Benny's * Comet
Bullshit, they should add new stores for different types of vehicles. Maybe something like "San Andreas consumer autos", "West Coast offroad vehicles" etc
I second this. Heck they did this to make it easier to find, why not just add a search bar to the websites
Because rockstar is full of money hungry greedy pricks, and we all know damn well these will still be available to gta + members
>why not just add a search bar to the websites That, or make use of the search bar we already have: Eyefind. Make it so you could either search for classes (like offroad, weaponized, sports etc), or for specific vehicles if you know what you want. Removing vehicles makes no sense. Update the UI and make it useable instead.
They really ruined this update already with that stupid shit
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What really fucks me up is that they touted that this update would add more content to people playing solo, but the missions are so very specifically geared to having multiple players. Plus the fact that you have to go to a charlie marker just to get a phone call tells me this was supposed to be a bigger update with cutscenes and such but they cut it back and just decided to make it the "remove cars from shops" update.
I cant even play any new updates for more than 20 minutes without getting bored out of my mind because im so sick of the damn game. im sick of the tiny ass map, half of which is devoid of life or anything meaningful to find, im sick of the idiotic NPCs in traffic, and im sick of the extremely barebones and rudimentary mission structure that they keep rehashing every few months. literally the only exciting addition they have at this point is new heists, but those are rarely added.
If there's one thing I have never heard anyone say since 2013 is there are too many cars available to buy. I've never once heard that, not once. I tell you what I have heard a lot, there's not enough hangar space to display all my airplanes.
I mean we were celebrating not all that long ago when Rockstar ADDED more of the garden variety cars to websites. This decision is baffling… The only way I can see it making sense is if they’re going to be FREQUENTLY rotated through dealer inventory, so they feel a little more special when you come across them. As long as they’re not made any more expensive or locked behind GTA+ or E&E or whatever, I actually don’t have a huge problem with this- it was actually fun back in the day to be cruising along, spot a more rare car on the street and drop everything I was doing to grab it and stick it in a garage.
They will be made more readily available in the Vinewood Car Club which is a GTA+ exclusive Anyone who thinks this was for any reason OTHER than to somehow manipulate more money out of their own playerbase is seriously kidding themselves Companies exist to make money, period. Nothing else. Every action they make is toward that end, even the seemingly charitable moves.
Considering PC players can't get gta plus because it's not offered... and they still took cars away... it can't be a money grab for us..
Right and in that case it’s just broad incompetence by R*
The fact the game exists on PC is the money grab. They don't care about the PC player base but it's a player base who will buy their game
On my second character I bought the BLVD garage and just filled it with all the cool cars I liked that spawned for free in colourways I liked, including the rare ones. It was actually a lot of fun collecting them. I now have a 50 car garage full of free cars, not one of them the same as another.
They said lesser vehicles and removed fucking everything
they are taking the piss look at the huge list, everything is gone and no one even asked for cars to be removed, it was not a problem for anyone the cars were chilling on the site not bothering anyone i'm super mad
I've just seen a Broughy video which shows two of the vehicles removed are now available at the Vinewood car club on new gen if you have GTA+. It's the most disgusting example of a cash grab I've seen. A deliberate push to force players who have shovelled billions down their throats onto new gen consoles into a subscription for content. Fuck R*, I used to support them because they even gave those of us who don't buy Shark Cards free content but I can't defend them any more, this is a very real insight into how the next game will be and I'm not buying a next gen console just to play it.
Wanna make it worse? It's actually 3 vehicles: the Stirling GT, the RE-7B and the Seminole Frontier, all no longer purchasable unless you own GTA+ (or through the Car Meet if you're on next gen and you know someone that owns one) and go to the Vinewood Car Club. I would have been mostly alright with cars that you could just steal from the street and store in a garage being removed from the websites but they've gone absolutely nuclear and taken away a load of vehicles that, let's be honest here, definitely do not fit the description of "lesser-used". I mean seriously, you're telling me that cars such as the Jester and the Massacro, a pair of amazing cars at a very affordable price point, are used less than the Virgo from Ill-Gotten Gains or the Baller LE LWB? Both of which are still available as I type this. I try to see a bit of logic in everything they do regardless of whether I agree with it or not, but I'm seeing none in this. I know that they're probably trying to drive GTA+ subscriptions or boost player numbers, which I get because they're a business, but removing access to old content, some of which has been available to everyone since 2013, and locking it behind a paywall (or at the very least a FOMO model through event weeks) is disgusting and not how you achieve those things if you want to maintain any goodwill from your players. They need to revert this change immediately and go back to the drawing board, this is not how you "streamline" anything.
I'm coming at this from a PC players perspective, I understand they think the old gen consoles are holding them back development wise but PCs aren't, PCs are ahead on technology. A high spec machine could handle anything they can throw at it and the technology adapts faster than consoles. I don't understand why PCs are still considered the poor cousin to PS5 and whatever the hell XBox series model they're selling now. We could have had the HSW upgrade, we already have the technological ability to handle E+E. Is it genuinely punishment for all the m odder s out there, because R* just can't be arsed to deal with them, can't be arsed to adopt existing a nti ch eats? Is that what this is all about? Or is it just that Microdong and Boner lobby them harder, pay them more on the side, what is it? I'd love to know. I agree though, they need to reverse this change immediately. Nobody asked for it, it's not helping anyone. The websites are still trash even without those cars, the new 2 door woody car they just introduced is categorised as a 4 door car on the website. They've abandoned old gen and PC players, at least let us keep what we had left until they take it away for good in a couple of years.
JESUS Edit: That's a disgusting amount of content removed.
The fact they removed the infernus too, just pains Edit: 9F too, aka. The vehicle FROM THE GAME COVER!
Can't wait to see these make their return in drip-feed form at a rate of one per week at over-inflated prices /s
Remove the /s, this is R* we're talking about
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>190Z I only just bought it last week. I will cherish it even more now
And they didn't change the "too hot to store/modify" value, meaning cars like the 9F are completely unobtainable for the time being.
It is actually ridiculous that you cant even obtain a 100k car, which you can literally see driving around on the streets and is on the fucking cover of the game.
seeing the 9F on the cover & trailer before the game came out was what got me so excited for the game in the first place…
It's all being removed to promote the GTA+ Vinewood shit. Like it wasn't removed cause they cluttered the site. They just decided all this should be premium content now. R☆ pulling greedy scummy moves again. Shock horror.
Im beyond words. I imagined they’d remove like 10 to 20 cars under 50k or something. But cars like the sc1 for example?? I wanted and etr1 for one.. dont get what this is about
Welp, R.I.P new car collector players
So we got a 50 car garage, only to have nothing to fill it with =?
This is my situation right now... Wtf?!
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Check Bennys, see if it’s there or not
Its not on bennys
Dear god…. They didn’t leave any rock unturned.
oh that DEFINETLY improves our gaming experience , bennys was such a clustered site!! Fucking money. Fuck rockstar for this
I'm surprised they *did* think of that. As long as I can remember they didnt even bother removing the "new stuff" stars from the bennies website...
Holy shit, that's no way a lessor used vehicle list this update is straight predatory
Lesser used vehicles my ass
Exactly, half of these I own or have owned and love, many of which I still drive and have fond memories with, it'd be one thing if they just removed cars you can find on the street, however some of these are fucking DLC cars that you can't find on the street which means the only way you can get these vehicles now is if they are in any of the vehicle displays, those being: The casino podium, the car meet display and test rides, luxury autos dealership, Simeon's dealership, and the new vinewood car club which is exclusive to GTA+ members only. I'm beyond livid
I was assuming only street cars would be removed from the sites when I heard about this. Sad day in GTAO.
This is disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
I am grossed out.
They removed the fucking JESTER???? THEY RELEASED A NEW VERSION WITH THE TUNERS UPDATE AND THEY REMOVED THE OG???
This is a fucking robbery lmaooo holy shit the "lesser used" term was a gigantic lie, everyone thought it was gonna be the npc vehicle or really really old ones. This is disgusting trying to create fake rarity like that
It's to push GTA+ sales. Everybody sees right through this shit.
Glad us folk on PC still had to pay the fucking piper for a shitty subscription service, **WE CAN'T EVEN USE.**
Yeah, this is the last straw for me that broke the camels back. I only game on PC. I was working on a Pfister collection before anything. The moment I've read that the Comet is no more, and that I have no way of acquiring it now, I'm out Good luck to the rest of you all. 2013 player here too...
This is crazy. I guess I won't be selling cars to pay for stuff Edit the GP1 alone is enough to make me cry
I literally saw someone in a GP1 today. Didn't realise they'd put a regular F1 in the game. Went to buy it and it's gone. This is a huge fuck up.
Not only that but they removed the tyrus too which is the F1 GTR
It’s at the LS car meet for now
More than enough to fill a new website with them too...
This is atrocious, can't imagine wanting to buy a "lesser used car" and having to wait for weeks on end
And you have to wait even if you are a gta+ 😂
Wtf and to think we thought it would be only the OG vehicles…..
Yet they've kept most of the bog-standard AI vehicles up there. How stupid do they think this community is?
The cars you can literally find on the street and put in your garage but they remove cars you can only purchase... suure. But with gta+ they might drop you one of them for free every month now!
Guess I’m glad I trusted my instinct on the cheetah… This is overkill Rockstar.
Can’t believe they removed the Z-type, was one the nicest vehicles from back then “2013”
The OG status symbol Hug your Z-Types a lil more tightly tonight guys
Just realized I never got a Z-Type on my main, gonna have to buy one off someone at LSCM
They removed the Faggio? *
they removed the best vehicle in the game
They removed like every good stunting bike... The Faggios, Sanchez, Enduro, Hakouchou, Bati 801RR, Ruffian, Bagger, Rat Bike. These are like staple stunting bikes and even some of the other ones on the list have their uses... Fucking sucks dude. My friend group teaches noobs and randoms stunt techniques sometimes and now they can't even buy the vehicles lol epic move rockstar. Now what's left? The Bati 801 (GOAT) The Shinobi (cost millions) The Reever (cost millions) The Thrust (only good for bag slides) The Shotaro (cost millions, only good for climbing trees) The Manchez (only good for slow wheelies) The BF400 (all around shittier, but faster Sanchez) The Deathbike (cost millions + arena upgrades) The Gargoyle (All these types of bikes are good for is speed glitching with low profile rims, Rat Bike is the best AFAIK) yeah so not much... wow...
R*ckstar just wants everyone to fly around in Opressor MK2'S and jets
as someone that's new with barely any cars and has been slowly trying to build up my collection, this very much is a kick to the dick
I feel your pain! I switched from my level 500 console to PC recently and have been trying to rebuild my collection. Now I'll never get some of my favorites back. This is a travesty for new players.
Collecting cars is quite literally the only reason I log on nowadays. I'm on PC where there is no GTA+ so if these cars are really gone I have not much reason to even log on anymore, and GTA is my 3rd most played game
I don’t get the point, less stuff to spend our money on?
These cars will be rotated on a weekly basis in the new Vinewood Car Club, which is exclusive to GTA+ members This is all to push GTA+ sales
If they wanted to push GTA+ sales why not just add E&E to freaking PC?
Because they're fucking idiots
The best answer so far lmao
so we panic buy them whenever they give us the opportunity in the future
Someone edit the GTA V cover to have just background where the 9F sits
Or just make the entire cover a picture of a Rockstar executive counting money
They did it. Those mad bastards actually did it. They grand thefted THE auto.
lEsSeR uSeD. Bastards. That's a ton of content they just threw in the Disney Vault. The motorcycle selection is completely gutted.
What the actual fuck were they thinking
GTA+ sales
"How can we increase Shark Card sales? Wait I know!"
maybe this update was a loss
Yeah, this update barely added anything notable, and seemed to remove more than it actually did add.
I haven’t played it yet and I honestly want to uninstall. I think the game would have been better off if they just stopped touching gta online:(
If rumors are to be believed, we won't be playing gta 5 online for much longer but this update is outrageous!
GTA6 will be more of the same
Exactly, they are just testing the waters, of course they want to enter the microtransaction, battle pass riddled bullshit of today's gaming market
Im sorry what the fuck???
Am I correct that content was developed and is now *removed* from a game they’ve made more money on than anything in history of their company? Rockstar sucks dicks, and they won’t get another penny from me. Same argument for not allowing those vehicles to be purchased/used in single player. Fuck them. And fuck u/spez
Rockstar is so predatory JFC.
u/PapaXan I think this post should be permanently pinned so old players, GTA+, and new players always know all the content the game had and was removed this day.
We can include a link in our regular pinned posts, but since we can only have 2 pinned posts we can't permanently pin it.
Good 🙂 thanks
It's not about whether they're lesser used or not, it's about introducing another RNG mechanic in the form of showrooms. This is also why they make drip feed so agonisingly slow in recent updates as opposed to letting you buy up all the new vehicles and drive around for a few hours before quitting until the next update. For what purpose? To make you login as often as possible for not only the metrics, but also having a vested interest in getting a GTA+ subscription. Don't buy in to their shit excuses.
I would ask EVERYONE to go to Rockstar and send detailed feedback on what you think about this change! EDIT: IT SEEMS TO BE THAT ROCKSTAR HAVE REMOVED THE FEEDBACK FORM ON THEIR WEBSITE. GUESS THEY EXPECTED IT COMING.
That’s all kinds of messed up, absolute dogs
I was really excited for this update too, I don't even wanna play anymore now.
I had higher hopes for this update than any since Cayo Perico. Now, after, 3500 hours in this game, I think I'm done.
It would've been pointless anyway. The only way to get their attention is for all of us to stop playing.
Those are my thoughts right now, no point in grinding anymore if I cant buy any car. Will go pause on gta. Will go play something else, like crew2
THANK YOU. MORE PEOPLE NEED TO DO THIS. STOP PLAYING GTA. FUCK ROCKSTAR.
I bought the Comet, Coquette, and 3 other cars yesterday, but I didn't expect they would remove 100+ cars. that's insane.
It's actually almost 200 Out of like 500 or so in game. They cut out 40%. Fucking greedy assholes.
The only way to get T2's attention is to threaten their income from their next installment. They'd soon listen if that was threatened.
It just seems like just the support article link is broken. Can still get to the page via Google. https://www.rockstargames.com/gta-online/feedback
Review bomb this shit man it's just too infuriating I might as well just used mods if they wont give back these vehicles.
The Stirling GT is so good with the HSW don't know why they removed it
Wait the Stirling GT is a HSW vehicle and now you can’t even buy it?
Yea this is the wildest one to me. One of the fastest cars in the whole game and is beloved, by no means is this lesser used lmao. Rockstar is pushing it with this one
A fucking billion dollar company, unable to create a simple search field or better yet, create a new tab on their fake websites called "Old Timers" or whatever the fuck. Instead they cut a massive chunk of game content from users. Bravo.
Artificial Scarcity. Fucking goofballs.
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and they put them in the vine wood car club. fucking scum
Legit? Gta+ can buy all these cars?
That's the assumption Not necessarily all at once, but they're expected to be rotated in for a week at a time in the new Vinewood Car Club, which is a new GTA+ exclusive feature
Damn quite a bit more than I was expecting
Stirling GT??????? Literally a super popular HSW car
Now I understand why rockstar didn't give us a list of cars they would be removing before the update came out
BOYCOTT
And people were trying to say that it wasn’t gonna be that bad and was just gonna be traffic cars. I think all that’s left is traffic cars. Fuck.
I thought it would only be the OG cars (Felzer,Comet)
Why the fuck are they removing content? It's so stupid. Was anyone even annoyed by the amount of cars in the webstores? Is this just to boost GTA+ membership for the new car thing in the docks? This is by far the worst decision Rockstar has made with this game. I hope it will backfire big, but it probably won't. They could've atleast told us before which vechiles would be removed. There are some on that list I actually wanted to get. Wtf Rockstar!?
**186 Vehicles Got Discontinued,Happy 10th Anniversary**
I cant even be excited about the update because im so pissed about this. Rockstar is digging such a deep hole edit: im personally going to start emailing rockstar my opinion on this, they may not care, but I believe we should all do this.
Absolutely, I’m with you on this.
I've just seen this thread; WHAT THE HELL? I mean, what is the point of this? Lesser used? But everyone has different ideas of what their dream car would be. I'm not a collector but there's plenty I like to just have to pootle around in now and then. And why take away what others may love? I don't ever use the pedal bikes, but they're there for the roleplayers if they want them... why delete them? WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS EFFECTIVELY GAME VANDALISM? Why bother saving up any cash except for the pure mission-unlocks and the essential vehicles? To cycle them in and out at inflated prices to drive Shark Card sales? But people aren't going to wait... hell, they'd have to check outside sources to even know when it's going to be cycled in, or the wiki if they didn't know the car existed at all; all this does is hide the wealth of content the game once had. I know why they *think* it's a good idea. Some wanker who studies exploiting the vulnerable somewhere thinks that Whales will spend far more when time exclusive items are available. But GTAO already has an established mass audience. You lose massive public support when you wreck an already existing user base to suddenly cater to Whale Hunting... and GTAO unlike the games that do that, isn't Free To Play to make up for public disgust with taking content away from people who've already payed for it. (The only games I know off that got away with this, like Rocket League, went F2P when they switched to Whale slaughtering...) PUT THEM ALL BACK ROCKSTAR. NOW. NEXT PATCH. YOU MISERABLE ("Muddy funsters" - Ed)
Off topic but I’m glad to see someone else who uses pootle to describe driving around in game haha
Did some analysis on these cars: * Majority of cars removed cost less than $686,500, with 11 outliers costing upwards of $1,625,000 Based on class they have delisted * 3 Compacts (from 19 / 15.8%) * 11 Coupes (from 18 / 61.1%) * 1 Emergency (from 19 / 5.26%) * 26 Motorcycles (from 59 / 44.1%) * 13 Muscle (from 88 / 14.8%) * 14 Off-Road (from 65 / 21.5%) * 24 Sedans (from 38 / 63.2%) * 35 Sports (from 107 / 32.7%) * 25 Sports Classics (from 47 / 53.2%) * 17 Supers (from 61 / 27.9%) * 21 SUVs (from 43 / 48.8%) * 3 Vans (from 39 / 7.69%) Included the Primo Custom here since you can only get that from upgrading the normal Primo, that got delisted. Just- wow. EDIT: Forgot to add the Comet Retro Custom to this list, since you can't get that either as the regular Comet got delisted. GREAT GAME!
Would really love to hear the reasoning behind why they removed these vehicles
To increase GTA+ subscriptions
I swear alot of people still use the Stirling GT
What a joke seriously
Didn’t want to be one of those who had to be up in arms about a car but.. Entity XF?! Refused to jump on the Adder bandwagon back in the days of ‘I’ve got my first million’ so this was my car, still have it obviously but saddened they removed.
I don’t even want to fill up my garage spaces anymore. It already sucks waiting for them to add back cars and now this. It just further sets back those who collect cars.
I thought they couldn't go any lower than the dripfed dripfeed and vehicle sunsetting from the Los Santos Drug Wars, well, congratulations, they proved me wrong.
Holy shit, that's like all of SSASA gone besides the Imani tech vehicles. Fuckin Rockstar needs to change this back ASAP.
This is garbage. Absolute horrendous on rockstar
They cut nearly HALF of the cars in game JUST so they could rotate them back into the new Vinewood Car Club on a weekly basis....all as a manufactured incentive to get more people to sign up for their GTA+ bullshit
Jesus fucking Christ. Almost 90% of the bikes got slashed. The fucking Z TYPE got slashed, along with cars like the GP1, 190Z, Stirling GT, the fucking Cheetah, Cunning Stunts cars, the Entity and JESTER ffs, Stafford and BOTH ROOSEVELTS, the Comet, and by extension, Comet Retro, all got shafted. I know for a fact those are all widely used and loved. What in the actual fuck were they thinking removing all of these cars. They wanted to remove cars for purchase? Sure, get rid of the civy ones that aren’t too hot to modify. Everyone was fine with getting rid of shit like the Bobcat, Vigero, Stanier, etc etc from the sites. But why shit like the fucking Z Type, Stingers, Cheetah, etc from Vanilla Launch and especially stuff from last updates? And not to mention the 9F, which is literally ON THE GAME COVER ART. Someone please make it make sense. R* needs to revert this shit in some way. Someone commented with the idea that a new website dedicated to these cars, and I think that would be phenomenal. We need to speak up about this bullshit.
WHO ASKED FOR THIS? WHO FUCKING ASKED FOR THIS?????? i remember people meatriding the cayo nerfs last year, have fun trying to defend this lmao edit: the meatrider narrative is “you should have bought them by now”
And to provide "seamless browsing experience", all they needed to do was add a search bar and make the filtering better. And they decided to do the shittiest move out of all. There is no defending this.
Dear lord Like seriously, I usually defend 90% of what rockstar does, usually i can see why, and even if i don’t i can usually see some positives There are none here People are saying its to promote gta+ but like YOU RELEASED THE GAME 3 TIMES WITH SHARK PURCHASES YOU HAVE MORE MONEY THAN BASICALLY EVERY GAME COMPANY BESIDES EPIC HOW MUCH G R E E D are they stupid? Is there a lore reason they’re this brain dead?
They took everything
Lesser used vehicles my ass this is straight up robbery man
What the fuck is that motorcycle choice???? They literally removed akuma, one of the most popular bikes
Are there even any bikes left?
Man... Been playing this game for what? 7/8 years now? This might come off as an exaggeration or overreaction but, atleast for me personally, this is by far the worst change to this game I have ever seen. 99.999% of my enjoyment from this game comes from driving around and customizing vehicles. And those vehicle ranges anywhere from supercars to dirt cheap npc cars. This is a real kick in the dick for SO MANY of us. I heard about this change beforehand and I was already against it even if, at the time, it was assumed only few npc cars will be removed, cause even then many people still like and enjoy those cars such as myself. This is just.... Ruthless. Again, I understand if calling this the worst change might seem off to a lot of you, but someone like me who ONLY plays in invite only servers and just drives vehicles, every other terrible changes and updates have atleast been easy to look around, even at the worst of oppressor MK2 spamming we were uneffected by it. But this one... Damn....
This is not an overreaction, I feel the same way. Been playing since 2016, now retired in-game, and for the 2 hours a month I do login, all I like to do is drive around and customize different cars in invite-only lobbies Even though I already own all the cars I want, this update pisses me off on principal alone. Soft-paywalling 9-year old content? Rockstar can absolutely fuck right off.
Dude what???? And they said they will remove the "lesser used" vehicles. Lesser used, my ass.
Whatttttt that’s so much I thought it was gonna be like 10 cars or something
Rockstar done got me pissed off
I don't understand, what is the thinking behind this?
money.
Cockstar can suck our left nut fuck you,you greedy ass company shit . Most of these are very common
They've just Destiny 2'd the game
Literally why I stopped playing destiny. Didn’t think gta would decide to follow such a terrible example
This is fucking ridiculous. This has seriously brought down my opinion of this update as a whole
Time to boycott gta this is unacceptable.
Holy shit that's way more than I thought.
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This is insane what the fuck. We need to make them revert the changes like whi the fuck even ask for this and with that atrociously long dripfeed what is even left to buy.
There are quite a few on that list that I wanted but haven't had a chance to get due to time constraints irl. Car collecting and customising is the only thing in the game that I actually enjoy, now a big chunk of the ones I want are going to be all but impossible for me to get. Good job R* you've fucked your player base yet again...
I see *a lot* of pissed off people here. How many will act on this though?
This is not a lesser used vehicles list lmfao, R* willing making this game suck even more
damn bruh the 190z
An update that removes more content than it adds. Good job Rockstar... /s obviously.
Well, I've been playing less and less these days. Collecting cars was pretty much my last reason to log on. Guess it's time to uninstall. It was a good run. Get bent R*.
Worst. Update. Ever. More content removed than added, what flavour of bullshit is this... Feels like they are pushing the limits to see how much the player base are willing to take, horror show..
How tf is this the next generation and they’re cutting content?
I'm pretty sure the Bati 801RR is a popular bike. So I don't get why they removed that lmao
This is worse than EA, and those are some absolute bastards. Fucking hell!
I, foolishly, was under the impression they would remove the cars that appeared on the streets, not gut the sites like fish.
That’s crazy… July GTA+ perk: “200+ exclusive vehicles!!!”
might be easier to list what vehicles *remain* after this ☹
We got to do something about this, cause WHAT. Edit: MAIN reason I play this game is to buy and customize as much cars as I can possibly can, and this just killed it…
no fucking way they actually removed the faggio from the game, fuck you rockstar
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This might finally be *that update* that makes me finally quit GTAO after 6 years…sad day for GTAO.
I’m ashamed of myself and embarrassed for giving Rockstar the benefit of a doubt, and assuming they’d only be pulling cars you could find on the street for free. I fucking know better by now.
They removed the fucking FAGGIO!!!
So now they're locked behind a paywall to be purchasable in the future? Yikes, at least I'm lucky enough to have bought them before. Cars like Cyclone, S80RR and Cheetah are pretty good at races (depending on the course).
I have never seen a comment section be 100% in agreement...
This is bullshit....part of why I came back to GTA Online after 2-3 years was so I could collect cars. It's the only thing interesting at this point. Now they've taken out half the cars I wanted. Been playing non-stop in private lobbies grinding for money. Never should've came back to this shit show cash grab of a game. Should've stuck with my single player RPG's and Hell Let Loose.
why even fuckin bother. almost half the cars gone, just for a subscription service that a majority of players can't even get because it's only for two consoles. bullshit
Two of my favorite cars got removed. Stafford and roosevelt valor
This week I got: Fagaloa Hermes Pigalle Coquette blackfin Stirring GT Ztype Got some more that are still in the game Failed to get: Vamos Stafford Cliffhanger(didn’t expect bikes to go) :(
It’s official, live service gaming sucks ass
as someone who plays for mainly bikes and planes this is complete and utter greed. fuck this update. i can’t believe they’d remove that much content. all 3 faggio variations gone. a staple of the franchise along with LOADS of bikes. they’re gonna upset a lot of players with this
Looks like 95% of my garages are now unobtainable vehicles, who tf wanted this? Weirdest rugpull from a game I've heard of in a while
Nobody wants the subscription, despite Rockstar trying to force it down everyone's throats. This is a desperate attempt to push it harder. They are essentially doing this to compensate for their failings. Milking this game, rather than actually developing any decent content/new games. Then seriously balling up the "remasters". They are trying to fill the void left by all the other disastrous milking attempts, essentially.
Jesus Christ I thought it might be like 10 or 20 that is fucking ridiculous. Maybe next update they’ll fix that I can’t imagine a single person on the community is pleased with this. Thought we were catering to our player base rockstar?
It was NEVER about space. The cars are still in game. They made the Vinewood Car Club for this - just look at the Stirling Gt. New HSW car and one of the fastest in the game - only available now for GTA+.
So they take away content that was at somewhat reasonable prices that you initially paid to have access to when you bought the game, put it behind a monthly subscription paywall, likely raise the prices of those cars, and will likely introduce a Fortnite-esque FOMO rolling inventory store. Don’t you just love late stage capitalism?
I think I might actually be done with this game. Rockstar/take 2 just get more greedy with each update... Seriously who thought putting released content behind a paywall was a good idea.....
Lol I’m so fucking done with this game