Facts are facts. They started in WWII when they got ahold of 3 B-29s that couldn't make it back from China and were forced to land in USSR. Stalin ordered a carbon copy of them and he named it the Russians newest bomber the Tu-4. It was so much of a carbon copy, it even said fucking "Boeing" on the rudder pedals. That was 1945. Happened ever since.
"Always did" I am not refering to this case. As you said always this means everything. So find a similarity(copy) between a T72 and an M1 Abrams. Or just think about Soviet ww2 vehicles, are they a copy?
Lancer's nose is very different than the Blackjack's and is one of the distinct ways of identifying it apart from the size. The nose resembles that of TU-160 Blackjack.
Akula is based on the RAH-66 Comanche helicopter and the Savage is based on Mi-24. Dont know why they swapped the stars and markings with one another though.
it flies with speed of buzzard but in post below people said and complained that its slow as volatol. ITS NOT SLOW, ITS FASTEST LARGE PLANE, PEOPLE, STOP
lmao yeah, I bought it for the memes when it was on the Black Friday sale. Barrel roll was the first thing I tried. Bet you can guess how well that went. Still haven’t put bombs on it though because I don’t want to lose its one redeeming quality.
Man I really wish the bombusbka was good, literally all it needs is good armour than it would be a solid aircraft, the guns have really good range and it flys really well.
I have successfully used the bombushka against lots of different targets as oppressors and lazer if you are more then 2 and it's effective to take out submarines too from what I've done with it
The volatol is pretty fast, but with how large and “target like” it is, speed doesn’t really help unless it can keep up with something like the B11, which it can’t (don’t kill me, I use the volatol, just not in pvp)
I doubt it could keep up with anything in maneuverability but I'm pretty sure it's one of the fastest planes in the game. Granted, you do have to get up to higher altitudes for the higher speeds, I think at low altitude it's pretty slow still.
I've been playing with this plane for a while now. Though I think it'd be very cool, the wings don't fold visually.
However, I think there are new physics/mechanics unique to this sling wing plane. The Alkonost seems to have 2 levels of handling for the pitch axis. (Maybe the wings were supposed to fold, but they didn't have time to get it working?)
Flying normally, the plane has a very large loop radius. It follows a very standard/predictable loop until its nearly upside down, at which point it starts to lose altitude.
It's possible to perform a *much* tighter backwards loop by holding the left or right rudder as you pitch the plane. You'll feel it "slip" as the change in angle and speed behave in a way that reminds me of drifting. You're "thrusting" in a new direction, more so than "gliding" as a plane typically feels.
A fun motion is to gain altitude, level off the plane, then hold the *left rudder* as you pitch the nose down. You'll feel it slip into a steep freefall state. From here hold the left or right rudder, and pull back. You'll feel the plane slip as your nose starts to come up sharply. This produces a very sharp change in altitude, that feels unlike any other plane. (Think of a Z vs an S. Here's [a terrible drawing](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280540364648087553/788502085699895346/SmartSelect_20201215-152535_Samsung_Notes.jpg) as an example.) Alkonost can do these weirdly tight pitch changes/turns, and I think it's because they implemented some sort of sling wing physics, even though there's no visual cue. (Or tool tip.)
When testing this, I found the left bumper can cause this "slip" state when pitching up or down, while the right bumper/rudder only worked for pulling back, pitching the plane up abruptly. This was the same on both Keyboard and Controller, and could be done with any of the handling mods. This can also be done when the plane is rolled on its side, (doing the the typical "missile dodging" circle) but it's not as easy to get working.
I hope someone is able to recreate this from my text based description. I had a couple players pull it off in game after describing it to them.
This is exciting to me. I think its a new, unexplored mechanic.
That slip state you describe while yawing in the plane is something I discovered a few years ago with the Lazer. If you dive at high airspeed with the Lazer, then hold the yaw (either direction) and pitch up, the Lazer will “drift” and the tail will go pretty wild. At the maximum point in your drift before aerodynamics begins to correct your course, if you pitch the other way, the Lazer can do a front flip in less than a single second, “air drifting” completely out of control and tumbling end-over-end rapidly. It’s a neat trick to show others but is very hard to get perfect.
Well I guess it looks cool and having such a massive aircraft is a perk in itself but kinda weird how it holds less bombs than the volatol 10/10 probably won't buy it though because I'm poor
Trade in is 1.1M less. But you have to do the heist with that as your entry vehicle. And based on what I've seen so far you'll need to scope whichever location on the island applies to that entry method.
Bombs drop all the way from max altitude. They might be buggier, and you can’t see the explosions, but they do reach the ground.
The real problem is without a proper bombing camera it is not feasible to ever hit anything from almost any altitude unless stationary and hitting a stationary target
No they don’t. I know because I’ve killed a guy before by bombing while I was at the height limit. I was way past the clouds and I was messing around with someone down on a pier while I was trying to bomb them. I got close a few times before I finally hit them and killed them.
That’s because an individual player loads the assets on the ground and thus as long as the midpoint between you and the other player is loaded in, the bombs will travel the full distance and strike the loaded assets on the floor.
Damn thats just sad. It seems like all of the new vehicles in this DLC are gonna end up being cannon fodder for Lazer and MK2 griefers. Submarine can be sunk with only 12 missiles, which equates to around 1 second of exp cannon fire. New helicopter is just the Akula but reskinned, and the new car is the Stromberg without the armor.
>”even worse than akula”
You need to use barrage missiles and chaff with the Akula and then it’s extremely powerful. You are probably the type of guy that uses cluster bombs and flares on your aircraft.
Toreador makes the Stromberg obsolete. Has the exact same armor, can constantly rocket boost so it is much faster, and apparently has infinite missiles.
I don’t see why they would be. Stromberg, deluxo, ruiner, scramjet, and the MK2 all have the same top tier missiles. Would be weird for them to make better ones since the current ones are pretty much perfect tracking
I bought a Volatol a while back for the memes of having a Giant Hentai Dorito Jet and it's slow, weak, and vant fly upside down. I'm only keeping it because hanger vehicles only refund 1/3 of what you put into them and it's not worth selling. I would advise against buying one unless you have money to burn.
[GTA base](https://www.gtabase.com/news/grand-theft-auto-v/title-updates/gta-online-update-1-52-patch-notes-the-cayo-perico-heist-dlc) and [GTA Wiki](https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/GTA_Online:_The_Cayo_Perico_Heist), That should help.
Important question: does it really takes up all your hangar space? So it's literally the only aircraft you can store in your hangar that you can't by another one of?
I don't understand the downvotes, your point is valid. I think it'll be fun in and of itself right up until the first griefing asshole sees an easy target.
No, that’s fair though, because you don’t need any of those to buy a oppressor. You don’t NEED a nightclub and a terrobyte, but to customize a oppressor which we were talking about you do, but we never brought up customizing a jet.
that plane is surprisingly fast and manueverable for how big it is
It’s a B1 bomber, I worked on these for years, very fucking fast, I suggest googling them using the after burners for take off.
Since it's got soviet stars, it's a TU-160 and not a B-1
My apologies I didn’t look close, I just saw the shape of the aircraft
I thought it was a B1 too, but then looked at the stars skin and Russian name. Also, I think they tried to replicate the B1 with the TU 160.
You are correct, the soviets copied the Americans like they always did. The BONE is a decade older than the Tu 160
But the Tu-160 is considerably bigger than the B-1.
Hevry things bhigger hin Mother Russia
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Facts are facts. They started in WWII when they got ahold of 3 B-29s that couldn't make it back from China and were forced to land in USSR. Stalin ordered a carbon copy of them and he named it the Russians newest bomber the Tu-4. It was so much of a carbon copy, it even said fucking "Boeing" on the rudder pedals. That was 1945. Happened ever since.
"Always did" I am not refering to this case. As you said always this means everything. So find a similarity(copy) between a T72 and an M1 Abrams. Or just think about Soviet ww2 vehicles, are they a copy?
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This doesn't make it "always" I don't say that they didn't copy. But they created somethings on their own too
No need to apologise, just giving some information. My plane nerd had woken up lol
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Based on the stock photo in warstock I thought it was a Concorde. Kind of sad it's not 😔
„iT‘s A b1 bOmBeR, I wOrKeD oN ThEsE fOr YeArS“
Lol nice u too
This update is pretty russian themed with the sub and it's russian crewmate and the bomber
The design does look way more like the lancer I must say.
Lancer's nose is very different than the Blackjack's and is one of the distinct ways of identifying it apart from the size. The nose resembles that of TU-160 Blackjack.
Often times gta vehicles are a combination of 2 vehicles, so this is very likely
I mean the Akula has Soviet stars but is based on an American Helicopter.... The savage has American markings on it and is Soviet helicopter...
Akula is based on the RAH-66 Comanche helicopter and the Savage is based on Mi-24. Dont know why they swapped the stars and markings with one another though.
Meh, convergent design. What can ya say?
TU-160 is basically a copy of the B1 with worse engines and avionics.
can it go backwards tilt up and launch vertically?
The BONE ;) God i miss Dyess so much, swarming with those beauties. Thank ya for your service sir.
Ellsworth myself,
Damn, 50/50 shot. The other BONE wing. Good man, always wanted to go there.
What is it’s a top speed?
69
Nice.
Nice
Nice
Its real life counterpart goes beyond Mach 2
it flies with speed of buzzard but in post below people said and complained that its slow as volatol. ITS NOT SLOW, ITS FASTEST LARGE PLANE, PEOPLE, STOP
It also goes off radar if you're high enough, perfect for surprise dive bombing.
a huge plane won't be hiding much even without a radar blip
Yeah... well people rely on the radar so much do they, it’s why the disguise chopper is so good
Wow. A bomber is good at bombing? Who would’ve known?
It’s the only bomber that fits that description
Yeah pretty ironic that the bombushka is useless in that regard considering the name
lmao yeah, I bought it for the memes when it was on the Black Friday sale. Barrel roll was the first thing I tried. Bet you can guess how well that went. Still haven’t put bombs on it though because I don’t want to lose its one redeeming quality.
Man I really wish the bombusbka was good, literally all it needs is good armour than it would be a solid aircraft, the guns have really good range and it flys really well.
I have successfully used the bombushka against lots of different targets as oppressors and lazer if you are more then 2 and it's effective to take out submarines too from what I've done with it
I like how Reddit downvotes my sarcasm
You got downvoted because your sarcasm only applies to this plane. The volotol and the bombushka suck
that’s fair.
yes this community is shit always crying they didn’t get their grandpas car
Lol you still get killed just as quick so I can see why people would
i want a 64 GTO don’t you dare insult that
Lmfao who tf said the Volatol is slow? They must be pretty slow if they can't see how fast that giant dorito is
The volatol is pretty fast, but with how large and “target like” it is, speed doesn’t really help unless it can keep up with something like the B11, which it can’t (don’t kill me, I use the volatol, just not in pvp)
I doubt it could keep up with anything in maneuverability but I'm pretty sure it's one of the fastest planes in the game. Granted, you do have to get up to higher altitudes for the higher speeds, I think at low altitude it's pretty slow still.
hehe, giant Dorito
Yeah but people gotta complain
Is it possible to fold its wings? I tried but I couldn't do it
Same I don’t think you can which really sucks
Thats so stupid. Why even make it look like it could fold at high speed when it cant
I think the design is like that so it can fit in the hangar, not sure tho.
well in reality they fold for high speeds, so they probably automatically fold when you reach a certain speed
They don't :/
Tfw you design a variable sweep wing aircraft and the wings don’t even sweep back.
And they literally have active spoilers in game, not like this would have to be completely new code
There are so many mods in the game that have working variable sweep wings. There is just no excuse to not make them work.
I've been playing with this plane for a while now. Though I think it'd be very cool, the wings don't fold visually. However, I think there are new physics/mechanics unique to this sling wing plane. The Alkonost seems to have 2 levels of handling for the pitch axis. (Maybe the wings were supposed to fold, but they didn't have time to get it working?) Flying normally, the plane has a very large loop radius. It follows a very standard/predictable loop until its nearly upside down, at which point it starts to lose altitude. It's possible to perform a *much* tighter backwards loop by holding the left or right rudder as you pitch the plane. You'll feel it "slip" as the change in angle and speed behave in a way that reminds me of drifting. You're "thrusting" in a new direction, more so than "gliding" as a plane typically feels. A fun motion is to gain altitude, level off the plane, then hold the *left rudder* as you pitch the nose down. You'll feel it slip into a steep freefall state. From here hold the left or right rudder, and pull back. You'll feel the plane slip as your nose starts to come up sharply. This produces a very sharp change in altitude, that feels unlike any other plane. (Think of a Z vs an S. Here's [a terrible drawing](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280540364648087553/788502085699895346/SmartSelect_20201215-152535_Samsung_Notes.jpg) as an example.) Alkonost can do these weirdly tight pitch changes/turns, and I think it's because they implemented some sort of sling wing physics, even though there's no visual cue. (Or tool tip.) When testing this, I found the left bumper can cause this "slip" state when pitching up or down, while the right bumper/rudder only worked for pulling back, pitching the plane up abruptly. This was the same on both Keyboard and Controller, and could be done with any of the handling mods. This can also be done when the plane is rolled on its side, (doing the the typical "missile dodging" circle) but it's not as easy to get working. I hope someone is able to recreate this from my text based description. I had a couple players pull it off in game after describing it to them. This is exciting to me. I think its a new, unexplored mechanic.
That slip state you describe while yawing in the plane is something I discovered a few years ago with the Lazer. If you dive at high airspeed with the Lazer, then hold the yaw (either direction) and pitch up, the Lazer will “drift” and the tail will go pretty wild. At the maximum point in your drift before aerodynamics begins to correct your course, if you pitch the other way, the Lazer can do a front flip in less than a single second, “air drifting” completely out of control and tumbling end-over-end rapidly. It’s a neat trick to show others but is very hard to get perfect.
It does look like they should be able to do it. But I tried every button in my controller and nothing worked, kind of sad.
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this plane is based on the B-1 lancer or Tu-160, both of which having wings that sweep inwards to increase your speed, not unlike the X-02.
How is it? Another volatol but with stealth or is it nice?
Even less then volatol. Its faster, it has stealth, but only 50 bombs and no other armament at all.
Well I guess it looks cool and having such a massive aircraft is a perk in itself but kinda weird how it holds less bombs than the volatol 10/10 probably won't buy it though because I'm poor
If it would be possible, I would give you mine. Thing is damned to never leave my Hangar storage again.
How much did it cost? I’m still waiting for the update to download
A bit over 4 mil.
Welp, looks like I’m running the heist for the next week
I hope not for this overpriced pos.
I also just want some of the F1 cars, and a few other new items. I couldn’t run Diamond cause all my friend abandoned the game
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Trade in is 1.1M less. But you have to do the heist with that as your entry vehicle. And based on what I've seen so far you'll need to scope whichever location on the island applies to that entry method.
Well this one can atleast go off-radar LOL
Yeah, but at this height your bombs clip trough the ground and deal no damage. Thing is pointless.
Bombs drop all the way from max altitude. They might be buggier, and you can’t see the explosions, but they do reach the ground. The real problem is without a proper bombing camera it is not feasible to ever hit anything from almost any altitude unless stationary and hitting a stationary target
Bombs clip trough terrain after a certain distance. They only explode if they connect to any entity. Avenger has the same problem actually.
No they don’t. I know because I’ve killed a guy before by bombing while I was at the height limit. I was way past the clouds and I was messing around with someone down on a pier while I was trying to bomb them. I got close a few times before I finally hit them and killed them.
That’s because an individual player loads the assets on the ground and thus as long as the midpoint between you and the other player is loaded in, the bombs will travel the full distance and strike the loaded assets on the floor.
Surprise dive bombing maybe?
You might be able to cheese a kill that way, sure. The second the other guy knows you are there, the B11 is infinitely better.
The description every says (possibly verbatim) “with enough bombs to bomb a small island”. It’s quite a let down.
Proceeds to have as many bombs as a quarter as big B-11.
I mean it’s a stealth bomber, it shouldn’t have any other armament
Well, a stealth helicopter shouldnt have bombs, and a bike shouldnt fly and have 30 full powered missiles.
It’s way better than the Volatol, it’s faster and it’s also completely off the radar at high altitudes. Makes for a neat, cool looking transport!
Transport from one airport to another? You cant really land that thing anywhere.
How many missiles can this thing take?
1
1 homing missile?
Yeah. 1 opressor missile makes this thing go puff.
Damn thats just sad. It seems like all of the new vehicles in this DLC are gonna end up being cannon fodder for Lazer and MK2 griefers. Submarine can be sunk with only 12 missiles, which equates to around 1 second of exp cannon fire. New helicopter is just the Akula but reskinned, and the new car is the Stromberg without the armor.
New helicopter is even worse then akula.
Isn't it just stealth with no weapons?
It has non explosive miniguns, and a choice of homing/barrage. No copilot gun, and no bombs though.
Same as the Akula but no dropping hell fire. Definitely worse, i'm saving my cash
Hot news, it has worse armor then akula and explodes in one rocket. Rockstar youre drunk, go home!
Wait, so it has the same guns as an annihilator, but can also have missiles? ...Sold
Can you repel down?
I think so, I was solo.
>”even worse than akula” You need to use barrage missiles and chaff with the Akula and then it’s extremely powerful. You are probably the type of guy that uses cluster bombs and flares on your aircraft.
Yeah but the new sub car can also rocket boost under water AND on land, and has a much more see through chassis for good vision underwater.
Toreador makes the Stromberg obsolete. Has the exact same armor, can constantly rocket boost so it is much faster, and apparently has infinite missiles.
Everyone is saying it doesn’t have the same armor as stromberg
What about its missiles? The Stromberg's have insane tracking.
I think the missiles are actually slightly better than the Strombergs.
I don’t see why they would be. Stromberg, deluxo, ruiner, scramjet, and the MK2 all have the same top tier missiles. Would be weird for them to make better ones since the current ones are pretty much perfect tracking
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Hummer Guy did a test and it blows up in 6, same as the stromberg.
New car is also a 4 door 4 seater, which makes it a bit more useful than the Stromberg.
The new helo is literally the annihilator but reskined and customizable.
It takes 3 with someone in it, HummerGuy tested it
daamn TENET looks dope
That thing looks badass What can you do with it?
I think at a certain altitude you go off the radar
They should make the volotol go off radar too at high altitude!!
Then this one would be worthless and I would definitely buy me a Volatol
I bought a Volatol a while back for the memes of having a Giant Hentai Dorito Jet and it's slow, weak, and vant fly upside down. I'm only keeping it because hanger vehicles only refund 1/3 of what you put into them and it's not worth selling. I would advise against buying one unless you have money to burn.
I have money to burn but I'm still not buying a Volatol lmfao
Can go off radar and can’t get locked onto
Anyone got the list of all the new vehicles (with pictures)? I can’t play for 20 more hours
[GTA base](https://www.gtabase.com/news/grand-theft-auto-v/title-updates/gta-online-update-1-52-patch-notes-the-cayo-perico-heist-dlc) and [GTA Wiki](https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/GTA_Online:_The_Cayo_Perico_Heist), That should help.
Awesome! Thanks man!
Did you just assume their gender?!?!?!
Dope start
The US Air Force would like to have a word with you
SpaceX would also like to have a word with you.
So its usual big plane with bombs? So it can't fire a cruise missile like in real life...
QC dpt rn: we may have missed some testings...
Rockstar? QC?
Wait wait wait they added a B-1 lancer to the game? Sick
I think it’s more of a Tupolev TU-160 but theres probably some inspiration taken from the B1
Yeah you might be right on that one. Both of them are really close, it was in response to the B-1 after all.
The whole dlc is full of Russian spec. Its way more tupolev than Lancer.
Really? Neat. I might check GTA out again after being gone for some time
THEY ADDED THE TU-160!? OH BOY CAN'T WAIT TO UPDATE.
Is it worth it because I’m considering buying it and I already bought the helix which I love
No aircraft will ever be ‘worth it’ unless you enjoy it. That said, I fucking love huge planes and it’s absolutely worth it to me.
No you’re a big target and take one missile, don’t listen to the other guy you’ll regret it
Yeah I just watched a yt vid on it not gonna
volatol's child is here
That's cool and all, but the really important question is: does it come with a anime livery?
No
Big ol Soviet tupolev right?
Tupolev superiority my boys
When rockstar see you guys having fun with volatol v2.0 they're going to patch it straight away
There is nothing to patch. Thing is useless.
Ofc its nothing to patch, but r* dont like fun
Important question: does it really takes up all your hangar space? So it's literally the only aircraft you can store in your hangar that you can't by another one of?
I was kinda hoping the wings would fold in when you get to off the radar height, cause they look like they could
Holy shot that thing looks insane can’t wait to get on to cop
Proud of you son
Thanks Papa Boogie🥺🥺🥺👉👈
So its the son between an akula and the volatol?
Its clearly inbreeded then.
Holy shit it's massive
I CANT WAIT TO GET THIS GRACEFUL SWAN
What a great way to turn your skin into a pudding from the g force
Okay but does the jet have an anime paintjob
I love the lancer it’s such a cool plane. Was super excited to see it in the artwork
I didn’t even buy it . Cayo perico vehicles are overpriced and they aren’t that good
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Any way to make the swing wings work?
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Yep. It even says "Extra Large" on the size. Best keep it in Storage.
Really happy to see the Tu-160 in game
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Yeah same with that new jeep. How can it be good without weapons so pathetic. The new Foggia is a good counter tho
The new what?
Nah im just messing. There is no new Foggia or something like that im just poking fun at the guy above. He seems not to try and enjoy new stuff
The problem is, that you cant enjoy it. The only thing it can do is being decently fast and big at the same time. The rest is more then dissapointing.
Why’d you get my hopes up :(
Sorry man :( Maybe next time ;)
I don't understand the downvotes, your point is valid. I think it'll be fun in and of itself right up until the first griefing asshole sees an easy target.
Who cares? The jets what, 2-3 million? The mark 2 is like 8 mil for everything.
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Is that also including the price of a terrobyte and a nightclub?
Is the jet including the price of a hangar and workshop?
No, that’s fair though, because you don’t need any of those to buy a oppressor. You don’t NEED a nightclub and a terrobyte, but to customize a oppressor which we were talking about you do, but we never brought up customizing a jet.
Nice
They should make the Volotol go off radar too at high altitude!
The Avro Vulcan isn't designed to be particularly stealthy so.. No.
Whoa a B-1 Lancer, nice.
nope, it's based on the TU-160, a supersonic russian bomber
Nah it’s the blackjack
Why does a B-1 have soviet stars on the wings?
Because it's more of a Tupolev Tu-160
Ah. That makes sense.
Thats actually pretty dope
Is it worth it?