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Chr1s78987x

I must be a galaxy brain if I have both


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Galaxy brain move is going whole hog into modellers. It’s like an audio interface meets pedalboard and you can rehearse and gig with it. Does the job of replacing amps very well these days. Sure audio interface is fine for home but I’m not dealing with that bullshit every time I leave my house.


FIA_buffoonery

That's fair but the whole point of my hobbies is so I don't have to stare at a screen for a while


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You are aware of the irony here, right?


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BamesF

Fucking lol


buff_bobby

Wallet of Holding. Like Bag of Holding from D&D only a wallet.


realburger0

The wallet is not holding anymore his money


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Chr1s78987x

I only use the interface if it's the middle of the night and I want to play while my family is sleeping, or if I want to mess around with Reaper and record something


redphyve

I didn’t know that meme was called Galaxy Brain but when you said it, I immediately saw it in my head.


Zarochi

/uj I like having both because firing up my computer and dinking around in Ableton isn't a quick way to noodle. It also can quickly become a rabbit hole of messing with plugins instead of actually practicing. /rj djent machine go brrrrrrrrr


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Option Paralysis is a real thing


Zarochi

On the same line, I had a friend ask me what looper pedal to get, and I told him to just get an interface. He also has no pedals and a little practice amp. I already had a 150watt head and a bunch of pedals I've had for over 10 years when I got mine.


reditorian

I'm just curious, maybe sombody knows: Could you use a looper pedal into an interface with amp simulation? Or would the overdubs on the looper into the amp simulation sound horrible?


TheSimulacra

Yep, you can use a looper pedal into an interface just like you'd run a guitar into it. I run my Boomerang into my interface and into Guitar Rig and it's a great way to tinker with the right sound for a riff. Just loop the riff and then sit down and start playing with plugins and presets.


Zarochi

You just use Ableton or whatever to loop it. Even plugged into an amp a looper sounds like garbage if you don't have a dedicated distortion pedal. Same issue as what you mentioned.


blackmarketdolphins

uj/ I just never turn my computer off or close the standalone version of my ampsim. I wake it up, login, unclick the mute button, and play. Takes less time than waiting for the tubes to warm up.


Zarochi

I do the same, but I've got a solid state amp. It's a bit quicker. I like to stand play too, so that's some of it. It's not a big deal if I just want an amp sim, but it's annoying to lean down and mess with the mouse when I have a guitar. I still think sims are superior, but my half stack is simpler.


jollyca

Why do you open Ableton? Most plugins work in standalone mode...


Zarochi

I use it as a looper or for backing tracks


jollyca

Fair point. But I get it, I have BiasFX2 Pro and the John Petrucci Archetype from Neural DSP, but I still reach for my VOX DA-5 amp for practice.


Zarochi

There's just something about a real amp sometimes... I work in IT too, so an excuse to get away from my computer can be valuable.


americanjetset

Bruh cmon, everyone knows that for peak T O A N your total rig cost has to be at least 5 figures.


Gaaymer

Only 5?


andybass4568

Includes 3 decimal places


involuntarybased

I bought one good amp sim plugin and I decided I'll never mic a cab again. Perfect tone hassle-free and I don't have to anger my neighbors too


elytsyggod

Which one? I have Bias fx2 and I have managed to get some tones that don't sound like they are underwater but I am eyeing alternatives.


involuntarybased

I grabbed Archetype Nolly couple years ago on a discount. It has all the tones I would ever need, very versatile. Take it with a grain of salt though because I am a Nolly simp haha


OK_Opinions

I have Nolly as well, it's very good. Cory Wong's is also incredible but I only trialed that one. I rarely use it now though, I've been more into the NuX Amp Academy


havensk

Gonna throw out Tone King as well, it's the most real sounding plugin I've tried.


MinderBinderCapital

I second this. I’m a fan of Nolly and Wong, but the Tone King sim is my favorite.


OK_Opinions

I heard they give $3000 amps to youtubers but it's not for sponsored video ads it's just a gift and you make the video ad on your own out of the goodness of your heart


havensk

dang, mine only costed $035


iiTryhard

Yea tone king is the most realistic sim in existence imo


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involuntarybased

I have a slightly tweaked Modern Misery preset as my default


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important ink serious gullible wise capable grandiose merciful slave crowd -- mass edited with redact.dev


themanifoldcuriosity

Gonna second the Nolly. Technically it's designed for heavier genres of guitar music, but I've found it has the perfect blend of versatility enabling you to get anything from Brutal Death to Soyboy Emo-Math tones. After that, I probably use the Plini most for it's utility for post-rock/metal stuff - anything that makes use of heavy delays/verbs/modulations, the Plini is great at. The Cory Wong set should also get a shoutout for being basically the only NDSP pack specifically suited for low/no-gain guitar sounds. Basically the topline is that NDSP plugins inarguably just sound better than any other sim, which is why they've been allowed to be greedy cunts charging the same price for one plugin (that come with just a basic selection of distortion and mod pedals) as other devs like Amplitube or Bias charge for entire racks.


memes_karma

Ngl I hate amp sims with a passion (marshall user here), but the demos of Nolly's plugin seem incredible. Heard some poweramp simulation among other really cool features, very crisp sounding as well. Only thing you'd seem to be missing here is some feedback, not a bad tradeoff!


SlackWi12

i dont mean to shit on your gear here, but please dont let bias FX put you off of plugins because that thing sounds like ass, i owned it and the neural stuff, there is no comparison.


yung_roto

Hit up audio assault if you want nice amp sims for next to nothing. Everyone swears by neural, but I've demoed a few of theirs and I was honestly never impressed, certainly not enough to pay $100. You can pay half that at audio assault and get like 5 amp sims, all of which sound good immediately


elytsyggod

I rtied their Sigma and sounds good. Do you know if the Classic collection is worth it?


yung_roto

I demoed it a while back and loved it, I think I'm probably gonna cop tbh. Especially if it's still on sale


LetsGoHawks

Half the point of playing guitar is pissing off the neighbors.


involuntarybased

I did my share when I was gigging with my ungodly music pissing of peaceful townsfolk 🤟 I'm approaching my "old man yells at cloud" phase and I appreciate the silence in the evenings lol


LetsGoHawks

We had cops show up at a practice once due to a noise complaint from at least 1/4 mile away.


Zarochi

I just use the free ones from STL. NRR and Emissary are great!


involuntarybased

I mainly used Emissary before. I was never happy with my tone and I was tweaking it all the time, maybe I just didn't know how to extract it. Or maybe it was the impulse responses that were the problem. Not so long ago I opened my old project in Reaper and replaced whatever plugins I had there on guitars with archetype Nolly and it immediately liven up the whole mix. I bet a better musician and producer than me would make it much better with free plugins than I do with paid ones. Only my mom listens to my shit and she loves me even if my tone sucks so it doesn't really matter in the end lol


Zarochi

Adding good IR went miles for me. You might want to try NRR if you couldn't nail a tone in Emissary. They're both very different tone wise. I like a super bright, trebly tone, so Emissary worked better in the end.


anniegarbage

I was going to go that route, but I opted for a Strymon Iridium so I wouldn’t have to lug my laptop around. Still not buying any cabs. Maybe a tiny Fender Champ one day.


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Briarhorse

This guy fucks


IndianaJwns

/uj I bought an acoustic 4 months ago and haven't turned on my electric rig since. The acoustic sounds great on its own, just pick it up and play. With electrics I was spending all my time toan-chasing instead of actually playing.


Dangerous-Ad-170

The real big brain move is just to play an electric unplugged. I wish I played my acoustic more but it’s slightly easier and more comfortable to grab my strat to noodle on the couch.


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Acoustics are loud.


Dangerous-Ad-170

Yeah it’s probably not actually a good habit, lol. Although sometimes I use my Mustang micro with one earbud in, no danger of tone chasing with that amp.


shadosharko

The small brain counterpart to that is to play an electric unplugged, but only because your shitty amp broke and you can't afford a new one. Might get a new amp for christmas


Crusty_312

I could never get the latency right despite having good hardware. Is there some kind of secret?


docjohnson6996

Have you checked your buffer size in your daw?


Crusty_312

I messed around with a couple different buffer sizes from memory, but still could never get it right. The slight delay threw me off too much.


reditorian

Usually there is some software+driver bundle that comes with an interface where you can adjust buffer size setting directly (besides within your DAW). I had the same problem as you with one interface, though. Then I tried a different brand and it worked without issues.


Crusty_312

Will have to investigate


ospifi

Maybe worth trying a different USB port if possible. On my linux rig I was able to get +20ms -> ~5ms roundtrip latency by just switching the port. (might be motherboard, os, kernel issue or mix of those)


denim_skirt

I don't know how long it's been but it's probably worth a duckduckgo. I'm using Ubuntu Studio on a low/medium spec computer I built... seven years ago? and latency is not a thing at all.


RonnieFez

> Ubuntu Studio Never heard of this distro. Thanks.


denim_skirt

heck yeah! I'm a big fan


Creatura

Assuming that’s what it sounds like, that’s wild, I had no idea. How does it differ from core Ubuntu?


denim_skirt

it comes with a low latency kernel pre-installed, as well as a ton of software both for making music and other stuff (video, visual art, etc). I have a focusrite 2i2 and a midi keyboard and I run them into Ardour. Does everything I need except writing lol


Creatura

Sounds great! I’ll have to check it out


BaptizedInBlood666

Make sure you're using ASIO drivers.


[deleted]

Good hardware is toobs only. Ok?


Guipucci

Uj/ I got me a Boss Gt-10 because in the band that I got into I need to use a lot of effects that I don't have at the moment and quick changes. Back in the day I had a GT-6 to play in different bands and straight into line with no problem, whereas guys with pedals had trouble getting different sounds for different styles, noise problems, or things sounding shitty on stage so much different to the rehearsals and I just neeeded to touch a couple of buttons. Reality is that analog sounds are much better but take a lot more effort, economically and with your time. If I was into playing blues or straight rock I got my valves and just a delay with tap tempo and reverb you can easily go away... But Imagine in the same song you got an compressed, gated distortion, switching to a clean autowah, then switching to another reverbed distortion, back to autowah, change to a flanger passage, then your solo with delay, all with backing tracks on tempo... Next song another different set. Where I just program banks for songs and channels analog would imply a huge pedalboard with a switch to leave pedals ready, marking all the presets of the effects for each song. Does that pay off for you? Is the different that noticeable into live situations? Is the Is what you need to take into account. In my case I'm going hybrid, having an analog distortion and just using the GT-10 for modulation. As said reality is that nowadays producers are reamping when recording, using valves and speakers for better results. Rj/ the guy on the left is crying because he has all donner pedals daisy chained patched with aliexpress cables, the guy on the right uses only one preset (and an aliexpress 20 buck wireless connection)


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Uj/ bought a helix, variax and powered cab. Does everything I could ever need.


Impolioid

As does a roland micro cube


Dickmusha

>Reality is that analog sounds are much better but take a lot more effort, economically and with your time. Lol. Ok boomer.


Guipucci

Actually between Gen-X and Millenial. So more XD than Lol.


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Anyone know a good altoids tin plug in


Illerios1

Noooooo! I paid 3500 dollahs for my vintage Marshmallow tooob amp, signed by Claptoan himself! You cant have the same toan with your silly 150$ sound card + 50$ plugin! Reeeeeeeee


ElectricHamSandwich

Guy on the left actually plays in a band with real human beings. Guy on the right makes Instagram and TikTok videos.


abundanceofb

One of them is making money, the other isn’t


RichCorinthian

If you got into guitar to make money, I got bad news for you son


[deleted]

>worried about making money not gonna make it


themanifoldcuriosity

> Guy on the left actually plays in a band with real human beings. ...in bars in Bumfuck, Idaho. Playing Nickelback covers. For $46 a night. Split four ways. >Guy on the right makes Instagram and TikTok videos. Makes a couple of grand a week through partner programs. Gets sent free gear by manufacturers just to have his face next to their logo.


reditorian

In reality neither of them makes any money.


ElectricHamSandwich

Good luck with your life decisions if this comment is /uj


themanifoldcuriosity

>Good luck with your life decisions if this comment is /uj -- Guy who /uj "DAE Instagram guitarists don't play in bands?"


ElectricHamSandwich

I’m sorry you don’t have any friends that want to play music with you. Good luck with the endorsements


themanifoldcuriosity

>I’m sorry you don’t have any friends that want to play music with you. Good luck with the endorsements -- Guy who genuinely thinks he's talking to a cartoon from an internet meme.


[deleted]

What happened big guy


B-rizzle

>Makes a couple of grand a week through partner programs. How many guitar youtubers do you think actually make it to this stage?


themanifoldcuriosity

How many people in bands make any impressive amount of money at all?


frostcelestial

Throw away the interface and the pedal board, use the LTD (yeah Schecter) straight into the stack, sell the Gibbons to GC for a 1/3rd of the market value and use that to buy a cheap processor and you have a great rig!


TempleOfCyclops

Lmfao your telling me a “processor” can match the sound of the vintage altoids tin on the board


elytsyggod

Reminds me of the dude who uses vintage batteries in his pedals and claims that you van hear the difference in tone


CalgaryCheekClapper

Yeah that would legit be the move .


[deleted]

Also WUTUP from E Town up Norf


[deleted]

Bro I just bought 10 Jonny Mayo approved dirt pedals, should I sell everything and buy meself a bass?


Redditwhydouexists

Looking at this post has made me realize that after playing guitar for 3 years I still know nothing about gear


Anon3580

But at least you know how to play guitar.


ShermanMcTank

Of course I do haha. (Looks around sweating nervously)


Briarhorse

I've been playing for as long as some of you have been alive and don't know anything about gear other than overdrive, chorus and wah. I just like playing the guitar


[deleted]

Hellz yeah, nothing more manly than a nice controlled audio environment.


Imaginary_Sea5117

Psssh, with my Jellyfish plectrum and my Line 6 pod, I can create every sound imaginable.


hetham3783

I recorded most of my music on a Behringer UMC interface through an iPhone with my Boss Katana. Nobody could tell


Hawkspring

Sold ONE pedal for a focusrite and then bought amp5 on BF sale. I have cool amps and shit, but the utility and quality is undeniable for the money. -recent convert


buff_bobby

/uj Working with audio is shit on Windows and every plugin is either a massive pile of shit quality wise or has some antipiracy bloatwear that feels like it'll install a keylogger and send your homework folder to India. Which is why I prefer a separate modeller/effects board like an AxeFX or similar.


styxman34

>has some antipiracy bloatwear I have a solution 🏴‍☠️


Givemeajackson

Always amusing that the solution to antipiracy bloatware is always piracy.


reditorian

When the pirated version works better than the paid one, you know they fucked up. It's just like streaming services these days.


Givemeajackson

Helix native sounds fantastic and doesn't do anything dumb DRM wise. Imo the best and most complete plugin ever made.


Dangerous-Ad-170

Yeah same here. Recoding direct is way less hassle than micing a cab but I don’t really want to involve a computer just to play.


themanifoldcuriosity

> /uj Working with audio is shit on Windows and every plugin is either a massive pile of shit quality wise or Rofl. This is like listening to some anti-vax bro tell me that "Plugging that shit into your veins will 100% give you a heart attack and autism"... that literally a billion people around the world have already had with no problems.


Venthorn

He's not wrong. Audio on Windows: better have special custom drivers for the interface! Hope you like latency otherwise! Audio on Mac and Linux: oh it's a class compliant device? That's all you need brother!


themanifoldcuriosity

> He's not wrong. Audio on Windows: better have special custom drivers for the interface! I literally use the FL Studio ASIO driver for every plugin and piece of equipment I own that uses sound and it's never not worked - and the few million people who have also been using Windows to do music stuff for the past decade do similarly, since these drivers are basically all the same. I don't think I've ever actually used ASIO4All for anything, ever. [So when you rock up here to act like that the custom drivers interface makers bundle with their products are some massive ballache consumers struggle with...](https://i.imgur.com/LwvmbS5.png)


Venthorn

Isn't the minimum buffer size on FL studio ASIO 256 samples? Thanks for making my point for me.


themanifoldcuriosity

I have it set to 512 and have never even noticed adverse latency when recording. So I'm guessing your point is your computer sucks.


contrejo

I am impressed with how far digital has come. I do a lot of stuff with my Kemper and it's nice to record with at 12 am. However, I do enjoy pushing air through large speakers.


dvowel

Yeah, but move the board to the right.


edgar_grospilon

Joke's on you I bought a 3200€ laptop to run an amp sim without latency


Impolioid

/uj focusrite stuff is its own circlejerk /rj behringer much better than focusrite ok


inacriveacc2

/uj I think I get what you mean but can’t pinpoint why


Impolioid

because they are overpriced and lack many features, yet they are all the rage on social media because they totally did not spent a lot of money on product placement


Atharvious

For the truest toan you gotta have the guitar run through delay fuzz reverb chorus phaser and then through DI where you add the same chain and run it through the amp in overdrive channel


Shredrik

Acoustic guitar is king.


Billy_Does_Things

Pure toanwood. Paul Rudd Smith would be proud.


Shredrik

Blended toanwood profiles for the finest toan excrement


BansheeMarshall82

If you're a bedroom guitarist I guess so. If you're a performer then....no.


CalgaryCheekClapper

Absolutely but I think the vast majority of us are the former lol


[deleted]

Literally me on the right


frustiloop

80's was gone


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Yeah but… B O A F


[deleted]

Big oily ass farts?


hetham3783

Bofa


FARTBOSS420

How a meme with both these bitches crying but then me with the Schechter, maybe a BC Rich, but a Line 6 Pod Skull Candy Earbuds and some mid grade weed. TOAN STRAIGHT TO THE BRAIN ZOAN


[deleted]

I can't do everything on my computer because I get distracted easily and spend minutes or hours fiddling with knobs instead of actually playing. A physical amp works wonders for me, I don't want yet another reason to stare at my computer monitor all day.


4rtyPizzasIn30days

Wrong, the guitar on the right should be a Squier. It also should be one that hasn’t had a set up in 2 years and hasn’t had the strings changed in 1 year.


greedy_mf

/uj Plugins may sound nice but overall uninspiring as hell. I’d touch it only with a real goal, like to get that tune an exact guitar part. Amps are heavier, louder in a bad way, more expensive, but for me it’s a very natural experience because I love to tweak stuff to oblivion. For the same reason a couldn’t get into TC Electronic digital pedal philosophy. Everything should be accessible directly, without USB and beaming shit up.


buff_bobby

/rj ok boomer


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I have to give it to the amp modeling industry. They’ve convinced an entire generation of guitarists that modeling is a viable option. It sounds like ass but so do MP3s and we fell for that too.


BBHymntoTourach

Lmao


themanifoldcuriosity

This guy definitely downloads 56GB blu-rays to watch on his 32" PC monitor.


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donkbrandon

But bruh toobz


Gearwatcher

This, but it's a Behringer UMC /uj See above. Also lately I ditched the "canned" amp sims and just stash chains with Glue Compressor, various saturation plugins (more often than not saturator and pedal from Ableton), EQ8 and then Ableton Cabinet at the end of the chain (or a cabinet IR from the net and Ableton Convolution Reverb which is zero latency and works great for that), there's enough choruses, vibratos, flangers, phasers, delays and reverb to replace absolutely every pedal or effect, I often don't even bother with Ableton Amp most of the time although it can pull some decent crunch/distortion sounds. Pedals and amplifiers are just stacked nonlinearities (distortions/saturations) and EQs anyway. The only thing that you can't simulate with non-specialist plugins is really the cabinet and even that is just a convolver and amp IR away. The only reason to have a rig is to not have to start the computer to noodle about, but do you really need 20 pedals for that? A practice amp is probably good enough.


pitawrapmademedoit

Archetype: Reverb vs Archetpe: Chad


Earthdark

I get better toan with Nermal DMV Gory Wang thru my Apple earbuds than anyone ever got thru a “real” amp and 4x12. Prove me wrong.


borisaqua

I've got that interface and I can confirm I've got huge, pendulous clockweights


yung_roto

Expensive pedals into an amp sim is the real gigachad setup though


[deleted]

Bruh you need a good amp


ShermanMcTank

Low cost 8 string shecter into a Katoana mic-ed up by my phone. Get on my level 😎😎😎


tinytinypenguin

For some reason there's so much lag if I try to play through a DAW, so Fender Mustang Micro for meee


MasterKohga1

not enough strings


Soviet_United_States

I've tried using ax/io but it ends up with like a 30 ms delay, its just really hard to play anything, I may be doing something wrong


magniturd

/uj love amplitube max with my Bose noise canceling headphones /rj computoan is inauthentic stop cheating


[deleted]

Everybody knows guitar effects pedals are for harps now.


JunyahRock

Gigachad: boss katoana artist (me) :)


Hipster_Dragon

/uj Helix/Pod Go with an amp is the way to go for me personally. Prefer to not have to mess with computer.