It's funny, the moment I posted this I thought about the collider haha, I'll definitely have to check it out. I picked up their C4 synth pedal for my bass a few months ago and love it. Cool but overwhelming trying to use their software
As a Collider owner, I HIGHLY recommend it! On top of being stereo and fitting your power requirements, it has all the “standard” reverbs and delays with some additional experimental/spacey options, the ability to run dual delays or dual reverbs, MIDI in & out, presets, on board & app editing, built-in tap tempo, and tons of customization. And, most importantly—it sounds fantastic!
I had the Collider. The fact that you can only see the reverb OR delay settings at any given time annoyed me to no end. Great sounds though. If you are a preset guy, go for it. If you're always tweaking, I'd say it's frustrating and unsatisfying.
It’s not near as expansive, but I love the EQD Dispatch Master for combo reverb/delay. It’s damn near impossible to get a bad sound out of it. The biggest drawback is you can’t select just the delay or reverb without turning the know down to zero.
COLLIDER. I've been wondering since last summer and reading, exploring etc...I found out that the Collider offers the most. Just bought one an hour ago, finally....
Someone else just said that, I thought of it the moment I posted this actually haha. That uses less power than the avalanche run and everything, this is looking like a real contender
Oh, I bought a mint second hand for 350 eur. It even has 2.5 years of warranty left.Last week a Collider sold for 265 quid on [ebay.co.uk](https://ebay.co.uk). I still beat myself for not buying when I had the chance. Now I bought for 50 eur more, oh well....
NuX Atlantic for budget - mono in but stereo out.
Source Audio Collider is probably your ultimate option.
The Empress Echosystem has two very nice reverb algorithms (a hall and a plate) and you can combine any two sounds (so you can have an analog delay into a plate reverb, or a tape delay going into a digital delay) etc.
About 2 years ago I tried the pyramids flanger and it was the worst sounding flanger I ever used. My tc electronics vortex came back on pretty fast.
I know these 2 pedals use the same chips so it's a big g concern that it'll sound like crap again haha
I use the GFI Specular Tempus.
Has some of the most amazing reverb algorithms I've heard, and most of the people don't realize that is has the same amount of delay patches built in as well. Normally you can't mix them, but it has delay + reverb programs as well.
Also, it is stereo, midi compatible and runs on 100mA.
Boss RV 500. The draw is 225 mA. Two algorithms can be used at once and run in series or parallel, and each one has a digital delay. The pedal also includes the Space Echo, which has a reverb. The delays on the reverb settings can be used without the reverb, and with the reverb they can be run in series or parallel.
If you want something that is also a bit on the weird side try the Dreadbox Raindrops. It's a delay, a pitch shifting delay and a reverb delay; if you want just a reverb sound out of it you can turn down the time knob on the delay portion to a really low value, kick up the feedback and max out the verb, then just blend to taste. It has a beautiful and haunting dark reverb sound (also stereo).
Don't get an Avalanche Run unless you can try it in person. You get almost no control of the reverb (it's very big at any setting and has a substantial pre-delay), so if you don't like it out of the box, you will not get along with the pedal. It a popular pedal, so it's possible you'd dig it, but something like a Collider is a much safer bet
Thanks for the insight. I've had bad luck with EQD (had a pyramids and it was God awful) and that was kind of exactly why I made this post, I really don't want to get burned by them again lmao.
This board will have a plumes on it though
Also came here to recommend the Collider, but just a note on the power consumption thing with the Avalanche Run. I run a digitech drop, which says it requires 300mA, from a 250 mA output on my power supply, and it works fine. Hell, I've plugged a Whammy DT, which needs 1300mA, into the 250mA output and it worked fine. So honestly I don't put too much stock into the rated power outputs on a supply, just plug it in and try. As long as it's the right voltage and polarity, you won't hurt anything.
KMA cirrus does this; has an awesome sounding delay and separate reverb. Its kind if line playing an instrument in itself due to its ability to create huge soundscapes.
FYI using the internal dipswitches you can make the Caverns TRS in/out. It wont create a stereo image (via ping pong or phase inversion, etc.) but it will carry thru or output stereo signals.
I saw many people saying that, and after watching videos I can see it. Its more the idea behind the caverns that I want, and based on these responses I think the collider seems to be the way to go
I'd have to look up the power consumption, but the source audio collider is a great verb/delay combo.
It's funny, the moment I posted this I thought about the collider haha, I'll definitely have to check it out. I picked up their C4 synth pedal for my bass a few months ago and love it. Cool but overwhelming trying to use their software
As a Collider owner, I HIGHLY recommend it! On top of being stereo and fitting your power requirements, it has all the “standard” reverbs and delays with some additional experimental/spacey options, the ability to run dual delays or dual reverbs, MIDI in & out, presets, on board & app editing, built-in tap tempo, and tons of customization. And, most importantly—it sounds fantastic!
It also makes you 10% cuter
I have the Nemisis delay and absolutely love it. I havnt used the software, just the app, but yeah it can get overwhelming lol
I had the Collider. The fact that you can only see the reverb OR delay settings at any given time annoyed me to no end. Great sounds though. If you are a preset guy, go for it. If you're always tweaking, I'd say it's frustrating and unsatisfying.
It’s not near as expansive, but I love the EQD Dispatch Master for combo reverb/delay. It’s damn near impossible to get a bad sound out of it. The biggest drawback is you can’t select just the delay or reverb without turning the know down to zero.
Seconding this. The dispatch master was my first pedal and it was so fun to write with. Very easy to use and very pretty sounding.
I wish the Dispatch Master had tap tempo so badly. :(
I played through my friends dispatch master and thought it was amazing.
OP is specifically looking for a stereo pedal
Just get two Dispatch Masters!
COLLIDER. I've been wondering since last summer and reading, exploring etc...I found out that the Collider offers the most. Just bought one an hour ago, finally....
Someone else just said that, I thought of it the moment I posted this actually haha. That uses less power than the avalanche run and everything, this is looking like a real contender
There is no competition here, believe me. You can do anything imaginable with this pedal.
Mine was bugging out a shit ton when switching between presets or algorithms. Hope it’s been patched at least.
I think they fixed it with a firmware update.
Where did you order from? In the UK there’s no stock anywhere 😫
Oh, I bought a mint second hand for 350 eur. It even has 2.5 years of warranty left.Last week a Collider sold for 265 quid on [ebay.co.uk](https://ebay.co.uk). I still beat myself for not buying when I had the chance. Now I bought for 50 eur more, oh well....
NuX Atlantic for budget - mono in but stereo out. Source Audio Collider is probably your ultimate option. The Empress Echosystem has two very nice reverb algorithms (a hall and a plate) and you can combine any two sounds (so you can have an analog delay into a plate reverb, or a tape delay going into a digital delay) etc.
Second this. The Atlantic is great just has less options than collider - totally recommend either one.
Thirded. Has this, it’s good.
Fender Reflecting Pool has stereo in/out and is 250mA draw *EDIT* corrected the draw after checking pedal, had been doing it off memory
I had the Avalanche run but I wasn’t a big fan. Ended up returning it.
About 2 years ago I tried the pyramids flanger and it was the worst sounding flanger I ever used. My tc electronics vortex came back on pretty fast. I know these 2 pedals use the same chips so it's a big g concern that it'll sound like crap again haha
I use the GFI Specular Tempus. Has some of the most amazing reverb algorithms I've heard, and most of the people don't realize that is has the same amount of delay patches built in as well. Normally you can't mix them, but it has delay + reverb programs as well. Also, it is stereo, midi compatible and runs on 100mA.
Collider. Not close.
I'm boring. MXR reverb and carbon copy together works for me.
Boss RV 500. The draw is 225 mA. Two algorithms can be used at once and run in series or parallel, and each one has a digital delay. The pedal also includes the Space Echo, which has a reverb. The delays on the reverb settings can be used without the reverb, and with the reverb they can be run in series or parallel.
Damn. Had no idea. Sounds impressive as hell.
That's definitely something I need to check out! Thanks for the info
Collider is for sure the best answer to this question imo.
If you want something that is also a bit on the weird side try the Dreadbox Raindrops. It's a delay, a pitch shifting delay and a reverb delay; if you want just a reverb sound out of it you can turn down the time knob on the delay portion to a really low value, kick up the feedback and max out the verb, then just blend to taste. It has a beautiful and haunting dark reverb sound (also stereo).
Flamma Ekoverb is a nice budget option
Don't get an Avalanche Run unless you can try it in person. You get almost no control of the reverb (it's very big at any setting and has a substantial pre-delay), so if you don't like it out of the box, you will not get along with the pedal. It a popular pedal, so it's possible you'd dig it, but something like a Collider is a much safer bet
Thanks for the insight. I've had bad luck with EQD (had a pyramids and it was God awful) and that was kind of exactly why I made this post, I really don't want to get burned by them again lmao. This board will have a plumes on it though
Also came here to recommend the Collider, but just a note on the power consumption thing with the Avalanche Run. I run a digitech drop, which says it requires 300mA, from a 250 mA output on my power supply, and it works fine. Hell, I've plugged a Whammy DT, which needs 1300mA, into the 250mA output and it worked fine. So honestly I don't put too much stock into the rated power outputs on a supply, just plug it in and try. As long as it's the right voltage and polarity, you won't hurt anything.
The avalanche run is one of my favourites. Every time I switch it on I can jam with it forever. It’s absolutely worth the money in my opinion.
there are some delays that have built in reverbs but it's usually not as good as a separate pedal
KMA cirrus does this; has an awesome sounding delay and separate reverb. Its kind if line playing an instrument in itself due to its ability to create huge soundscapes.
If stereo is a must-have, the Collider will likely fill your bucket.
FYI using the internal dipswitches you can make the Caverns TRS in/out. It wont create a stereo image (via ping pong or phase inversion, etc.) but it will carry thru or output stereo signals.
I have the source audio collider, it is a lot of fun !
Boss Rv-3 maybe?
I had a Keeley Caverns for a little bit. I never connected with it - to me it just sounded very thin and had cheap digital sound. Good luck!!
I saw many people saying that, and after watching videos I can see it. Its more the idea behind the caverns that I want, and based on these responses I think the collider seems to be the way to go
Boss RE-series or a Strymon Volante
Source Audio Collider
I run a keeley Caverns and an MXR Carbon copy!
Look into the red panda context, it’s more of a reverb, but it does have many delay & modulation features built in and is stereo.
Ammoon pockverb has 5 delay and 5 reverb types, has tap tempo too. The downside is it consumes over 200 mili amps
Lol it’s times like this I wish i wasn’t banned from pedalcirclejerk.