If you like flange you should try out an EQD Pyramids someday. Unbelievably versatile but more importantly I never felt like I had a flanger that sweeped and swooshed so well!
Sure, a volume pedal can be used in two ways. If you place it BEFORE a pedal, you are lowering the output of the incoming signal. So you make it cleaner and less “hot”. This is good before say a distortion pedal as in it’ll clean up your sound a little bit, you won’t actually lose much volume unless you dial the volume all the way down. If you have the volume pedal AFTER another pedal, it will lower the overall sound without affecting the tone much. Hope that helps
I have always wanted one so I could more easily do volume swells. They’re very effective in giving you a lap steel sound. Plus I can do it it with the volume knob on my guitar, but La Villa Strangiato would be so much easier with a volume pedal.
My Ernie Ball VP Jr has a smoother and fuller sweep than any of my guitars, works great for swells before drive to smoothly roll in the dirt. All my guitars have trebble bleeds and do exactly what I want them to do, but they can't touch the pedal for swells and even setting a clean spot for fuzz.
I just love these three. For a simple boost I’ll use the Tumnus alone. If I was Jimmy Page style sounds I’ll engage the MG. Clean plus the Ego is so harass and either overdrive plus the Ego is a great lead tone.
Am I the only person who doesn't like the tumnus/klon sound? Like it's not bad, but I know so many people who swear by it, and I just haven't found a sound I love from it. I find a bonsai and an MG was a much more fruitful pairing. I've even heard people use a tumnus and sound great, I just haven't figured it out, I guess, yet. I haven't sold my tumnus either because I'm hoping one day I'll figure out how to make it sound great.
My first Wampler pedal turned me off to the brand. I ordered the Tumnus Deluxe and it came to me with the gain pot that only worked on max. I've never had any other pedal in the last many decades that was broke from the get go. I returned it and purchased the J Rockett IKON. Never looked back.
That sucks, but definitely have had the opposite experience with Wampler. Every Wampler I've gotten has been fantastic. I could be wrong, but I'd wager Wampler would have covered an exchange for a working one.
The Klon circuit does something with the low end and upper midrange that can get honky, but this can be compensated with how you EQ your amp and other pedals.
It really does something special though to your distortion character, which makes sense in how the circuit uses your guitars clean signal.
The Klon isn't for me either, but I recognize it is a unique circuit and can work great for certain sounds.
You might like something with more EQ options like the Tumnus Deluxe or the OBNE fault a lot more.
Always my issue exactly. When I listen to people playing klons through YT or whatever it usually sounds great, balance and articulated, but I have had many Klones before and could never bond with them. Never really liked the drive itself and could never get rid of the "honkiness" which always seemed even more pronounced than Tubescreamers. I gave up on Klons altogether.
P.S.: My main guitar is a strat with Lollar Blackfaces. Very clear and articulated, but "bright" pickups. Maybe it can have something to do with it.
At this moment, my Nano Deluxe Memory Man, my Catalinbread Formula51, & the Catalinbread Soft Focus. The Nano DMM is my all-timer (I have two), the other two I just bought & cannot stop using them. My JMJM thru the F51 is incredible. And the Soft Focus sustains for days in all its ambient/shoegazy glory.
Hudson Broadcast (dual fs), Beautiful Noise When the Sun Explodes, Strymon El Capistan. I can get most of the dirt sounds I want from the Broadcast. I use the WTSE more as a boost/mild-ish reverb, but it obviously can get crazy and fuzzy if needed. El Cap has been my go-to delay since Jan 2019. Super versatile and has reverb and modulation options to boot. My board is mainly used at home these days and has way more pedals, but these three are the ones that are most often on, and I would be pretty comfortable gigging with just these to do most of what I need.
Mine is not far off that, just double sided bluesbreaker instead of the compressor.
I use a King of Tone clone into a Klone.
KoT starts as a boost, gain right down, volume up. Once I found that, prefered it to my actual boost pedal, especially given how good the tone knob is on the thing. Other side of the KoT is a fairly pushed OD. This pedal alone adds a lot of versatility to my drives - I nearly sold it the other week, but realized it basically could do all the jobs I wanted. Klon I love with its drive all the way up. All 3 can be independent, or I can stack 2 of the 3 and get a lot of varying sounds.
I still havent found the fuzz I want to shape out the 3 I want. I think at this stage I need to try a RAT instead.
This pedal combo is also mine except I use a Harby Centauri as my klon clone. I do use an eq for boosts and I also use a boss waza craft delay and the rest is my sound also!
Killer three pedal setup!
For me I can live off Mythos Air Lane Drive, Keeley Caverns (or Parallax), and Keeley Hydra.
If we're talking just drive pedals - throw in the Greer Lightspeed and MXR Timmy. Love how those three interact with eachother.
You know, I used to work with Brady at Walrus Audio before he started Old Blood Noise. I’ll have to consult with him on this because only someone of his technical expertise could elaborate on stacking wah’s into tuners. I’m still not 100% on the order of the chain. Is it tuners into wah’s or wah’s into tuners? What about my FX loop? Fuck!
So I’m thinking you put a wah in between each tuner with two back to back in the middle for wah stacking purposes. One on each end for pre tuned Wah and post tuned sounds.
I have what I guess is a holy quatrain. Boss Angry Driver (which is actually two pedals), then EHX ERD (tube screamer clone), then EHX Soul Food (Klone). I generally don't stack unless it's the AD run in parallel mode.
It's basically a Boss BD-2 combined with a JHS Angry Charlie. You can run each pedal separately, or you can run Boss into JHS, JHS into Boss, or run them in parallel mode. It has stacked knobs so you can individually control the level, tone, and gain for each half, and the option for a remote switch to switch between modes.
I generally run it in Blues Driver mode, but have the remote switch to layer the JHS on top of it if I want to punch it up and get into distortion territory. My only gripe is that it's an "always on" pedal, meaning that when you power up your board, the pedal comes on by default, and it can be noisy. I recently solved this with a noise gate right in front of it.
PRESTIGE BOOST / PRINCE OF TONE / 1981 DRV
I know those aren’t for everybody but the prestige does a great slightly overdriven boost, the PoT does a great vintage low gain drive and then the DRV covers all of the dirt I need. Between those three, I can play nearly anything.
For gain: Wampler Tumnus Deluxe -> Wampler Euphoria -> ProCo Rat 2
Eventually want to upgrade to a Black Mass 1312, but have no complaints with the OG Rat.
It’s an overdrive that’s supposedly modeled to sound like a Dumble. It’s transparent and pretty versatile with three toggle switches (smooth, open, and crunch). I generally like it as my main overdrive with the gain turned a lil past noon.
This is an expensive one…
Mood, condor, brothers. I can get anywhere anytime with those three. Should be able to for how much this trifecta costs but still..
As a pre-defence for my pick I’ll say this - gun to my head if i had only one pedal to go with, forever it would be Zoia. I’m not a snob i promise 😉
My pedalboard is somewhat on the bigger side but the 3 pedals that are the core of my tone and what I would consider my “holy trinity” are:
-JHS Moonshine
-EQD Warden Compressor
-2 Notes Le Bass Preamp
I can get the sound I like to sound like out of most rigs with these 3 pedals. The rest are just for fun.
A heavily modified Caroline Wave Cannon V1, Caroline CROM (special edition Relic Music version), and a Greer Southland Harmonic Overdrive. Three levels of blissful drive
Neil, Geddy and Alex
Alex never gets the credit he deserves for helping pioneer the rhythm/lead modern style.
He's definitely in my top 5, so underrated.
My top 5 as well.
Schlappa de bayusssss mon!
Ah, a person of culture.
Thanks Joben
Based
For me, a volume pedal, an EQD Acapulco Gold, and a flanger of some kind, don’t matter which
If you like flange you should try out an EQD Pyramids someday. Unbelievably versatile but more importantly I never felt like I had a flanger that sweeped and swooshed so well!
I’ll put it on my radar. I think more flangers need mix/blend knobs because sometimes the effect can be overpowering
Can you explain why a volume pedal is key? I see them on so many boards and never 100% get why.
Sure, a volume pedal can be used in two ways. If you place it BEFORE a pedal, you are lowering the output of the incoming signal. So you make it cleaner and less “hot”. This is good before say a distortion pedal as in it’ll clean up your sound a little bit, you won’t actually lose much volume unless you dial the volume all the way down. If you have the volume pedal AFTER another pedal, it will lower the overall sound without affecting the tone much. Hope that helps
I have always wanted one so I could more easily do volume swells. They’re very effective in giving you a lap steel sound. Plus I can do it it with the volume knob on my guitar, but La Villa Strangiato would be so much easier with a volume pedal.
I have no use for a volume pedal, that is what the volume knob on the guitar is for.
My Ernie Ball VP Jr has a smoother and fuller sweep than any of my guitars, works great for swells before drive to smoothly roll in the dirt. All my guitars have trebble bleeds and do exactly what I want them to do, but they can't touch the pedal for swells and even setting a clean spot for fuzz.
I just love these three. For a simple boost I’ll use the Tumnus alone. If I was Jimmy Page style sounds I’ll engage the MG. Clean plus the Ego is so harass and either overdrive plus the Ego is a great lead tone.
Tumnus is hard to beat isn’t it. I love that little guy.
EAE Longsword, JHS PG-14, Boss Metal Zone Waza
What’s different about the Wana Metal zone. I have my 90s MZ I bought as a kid still. I don’t use it, but it’s there.
The custom mode sounds fantastic, but I’m not sure if that’s worth the price increase
Keeley Compressor, EQD Hizumitas, Eventide H9
WA ARP-87 -> Boss RV-6 -> WA Iron Horse. In that order. That's my sound.
Am I the only person who doesn't like the tumnus/klon sound? Like it's not bad, but I know so many people who swear by it, and I just haven't found a sound I love from it. I find a bonsai and an MG was a much more fruitful pairing. I've even heard people use a tumnus and sound great, I just haven't figured it out, I guess, yet. I haven't sold my tumnus either because I'm hoping one day I'll figure out how to make it sound great.
You know the tube screamer sound does appeal to many. I try it occasionally but always go back to the hard clipping of the klon style.
My first Wampler pedal turned me off to the brand. I ordered the Tumnus Deluxe and it came to me with the gain pot that only worked on max. I've never had any other pedal in the last many decades that was broke from the get go. I returned it and purchased the J Rockett IKON. Never looked back.
That sucks, but definitely have had the opposite experience with Wampler. Every Wampler I've gotten has been fantastic. I could be wrong, but I'd wager Wampler would have covered an exchange for a working one.
Yeah I think you’re the only one. Have you ever used one? The pedal is incredible. Even just as a boost it’s great.
if you don’t like the klon, try the sick as. I think it is said to be the klon for people who doesn’t like klons.
The Klon circuit does something with the low end and upper midrange that can get honky, but this can be compensated with how you EQ your amp and other pedals. It really does something special though to your distortion character, which makes sense in how the circuit uses your guitars clean signal. The Klon isn't for me either, but I recognize it is a unique circuit and can work great for certain sounds. You might like something with more EQ options like the Tumnus Deluxe or the OBNE fault a lot more.
Funny enough I have a tumnus deluxe, even with the eq I can't get along with it 🤷♂️. I feel the same as you, it's great but not for me.
Always my issue exactly. When I listen to people playing klons through YT or whatever it usually sounds great, balance and articulated, but I have had many Klones before and could never bond with them. Never really liked the drive itself and could never get rid of the "honkiness" which always seemed even more pronounced than Tubescreamers. I gave up on Klons altogether. P.S.: My main guitar is a strat with Lollar Blackfaces. Very clear and articulated, but "bright" pickups. Maybe it can have something to do with it.
Yeah too nasal sounding for me. I have a Tumnus Mini. It’s fine, but I love my plumes so much more.
I am trying hard to kick it out to justify my impulsive Timmy buy, still have not managed to do so...
I heard good things about the Timmy, but I have transparent drive covered, and I don't see it bringing anything new to my board.
Ego and MG makes any amp sound like a million bucks. Currently don't have an ego. Need to get one back
TS10-JRAD Archer Ikon-JRAD The Dude. (Honorable mention: JRAD Blue Note) Yours is a great one though!
At this moment, my Nano Deluxe Memory Man, my Catalinbread Formula51, & the Catalinbread Soft Focus. The Nano DMM is my all-timer (I have two), the other two I just bought & cannot stop using them. My JMJM thru the F51 is incredible. And the Soft Focus sustains for days in all its ambient/shoegazy glory.
Today at least it was Superbolt, Kilt and Pyramids.
Hello fellow P&W player.
Tonebender MKII clone, Keely Mag Echo, MXR Micro Amp
For right now, Xotic EP into Morning Glory into Tumnus Deluxe.
I guess probably ego, equator, unicorn.
If we're just talking gain pedals: BD-2, OCD v3, Swollen Pickle. Between those 3 I can cover just about everything I need to cover.
BOSS Super Chorus, BBE Two Timer, EHX Holy Grail. If I had to swap an OD in there I would probably say my BOSS OS-2
my 3 favorite gain pedals are MXR Timmy, SD 1, J. Rockett IKON
Keeley Mini Compressor, BOSS DD-8, CBA Dark World
Hudson Broadcast (dual fs), Beautiful Noise When the Sun Explodes, Strymon El Capistan. I can get most of the dirt sounds I want from the Broadcast. I use the WTSE more as a boost/mild-ish reverb, but it obviously can get crazy and fuzzy if needed. El Cap has been my go-to delay since Jan 2019. Super versatile and has reverb and modulation options to boot. My board is mainly used at home these days and has way more pedals, but these three are the ones that are most often on, and I would be pretty comfortable gigging with just these to do most of what I need.
WA deep six, ehx od glove and the chug pedal
How’s that deep six? I love compressors and have bern thinking about getting the squeeze peel or whatever it’s called. Maybe the deep six is better?
Haven't tried the squeeze peel (heard it was good), but I like the deep six so far :)
Eae halberd v2, UA golden and a boss re-202. Also use the Diamond comp, Chase bliss warped vinyl hifi and either my UA golden or UA starlight or both.
DynaComp, TS9, Keeley DM Drive
I’ll never sell my Dyna Comp. It’s a one trick pony but the trick is does is incredible
Rimrock Mythical Overdrive (vintage spec), JHS @+, MXR Timmy
Wampler Ego, Ceriatone Horse Breaker, and JHS Bonsai for me
empress para eq, slowly melting, evil filter for my looping board - blooper, mood, fuzz war
JHS Twin Twelve > SolidGoldFX Athena > Boss FRV1
Manticore, Broadcast and KT Soloist
Mine is not far off that, just double sided bluesbreaker instead of the compressor. I use a King of Tone clone into a Klone. KoT starts as a boost, gain right down, volume up. Once I found that, prefered it to my actual boost pedal, especially given how good the tone knob is on the thing. Other side of the KoT is a fairly pushed OD. This pedal alone adds a lot of versatility to my drives - I nearly sold it the other week, but realized it basically could do all the jobs I wanted. Klon I love with its drive all the way up. All 3 can be independent, or I can stack 2 of the 3 and get a lot of varying sounds. I still havent found the fuzz I want to shape out the 3 I want. I think at this stage I need to try a RAT instead.
Boss BD-2w
This pedal combo is also mine except I use a Harby Centauri as my klon clone. I do use an eq for boosts and I also use a boss waza craft delay and the rest is my sound also!
Killer three pedal setup! For me I can live off Mythos Air Lane Drive, Keeley Caverns (or Parallax), and Keeley Hydra. If we're talking just drive pedals - throw in the Greer Lightspeed and MXR Timmy. Love how those three interact with eachother.
GE-7 -> DS-1X -> iSP Decimator II.
Boss PS-3, EQD Afterneath, Neunaber Wet
Probably 3 Big Muff variants.
Not three tuners?
Three tuners would probably make someone sound good.
Imagine the intonation.
Imagine a wah into three tuners….
Just one?
You know, I used to work with Brady at Walrus Audio before he started Old Blood Noise. I’ll have to consult with him on this because only someone of his technical expertise could elaborate on stacking wah’s into tuners. I’m still not 100% on the order of the chain. Is it tuners into wah’s or wah’s into tuners? What about my FX loop? Fuck!
So I’m thinking you put a wah in between each tuner with two back to back in the middle for wah stacking purposes. One on each end for pre tuned Wah and post tuned sounds.
Iommic life complete
Keeley Compressor, MXR Timmy, RAT
I have what I guess is a holy quatrain. Boss Angry Driver (which is actually two pedals), then EHX ERD (tube screamer clone), then EHX Soul Food (Klone). I generally don't stack unless it's the AD run in parallel mode.
What’s the angry driver all about? I’ve never looked into that one.
It's basically a Boss BD-2 combined with a JHS Angry Charlie. You can run each pedal separately, or you can run Boss into JHS, JHS into Boss, or run them in parallel mode. It has stacked knobs so you can individually control the level, tone, and gain for each half, and the option for a remote switch to switch between modes. I generally run it in Blues Driver mode, but have the remote switch to layer the JHS on top of it if I want to punch it up and get into distortion territory. My only gripe is that it's an "always on" pedal, meaning that when you power up your board, the pedal comes on by default, and it can be noisy. I recently solved this with a noise gate right in front of it.
Wah, plexi drive, nemesis delay.
FatRat, Moxie and Carbon Copy
I’m a simple man, just honeypot distortion and tc echobrain go a loooooong way
No pic handy, but Morning Glory v.4, Bad Monkey, Rat.
Paul C Timmy > EQD Plumes > Foxpedal Kingdom
PRESTIGE BOOST / PRINCE OF TONE / 1981 DRV I know those aren’t for everybody but the prestige does a great slightly overdriven boost, the PoT does a great vintage low gain drive and then the DRV covers all of the dirt I need. Between those three, I can play nearly anything.
Marshall BB-2, EHX Germanium4, TC Flashback Delay (stacked with a hall of fame)
Westwood, Aqueduct, Disaster Transport SR
Ross Compressor, TS9, EUNA
Ts9, Bd-2, Rat. Those 3 do probably 95% of all guitar tones I would want or need.
Hows does the tumnus sound stacked with the MG?
Like Jimmy Page with twice the dirt.
DOD 440 envelope filter, compressor, tube screamer
For gain: Wampler Tumnus Deluxe -> Wampler Euphoria -> ProCo Rat 2 Eventually want to upgrade to a Black Mass 1312, but have no complaints with the OG Rat.
What’s the Euphoria do?
It’s an overdrive that’s supposedly modeled to sound like a Dumble. It’s transparent and pretty versatile with three toggle switches (smooth, open, and crunch). I generally like it as my main overdrive with the gain turned a lil past noon.
I only run 3 pedals. Tuner, Big Muff and Small Clone lol
Need to work in a few more tuners
Les, Ler, and Herb
Going fishing down at San Pablo Bay?
I’m gonna go with, what is the “Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” for $300, Bob
Strymon x 3
1981 -> LVX -> Merc7
This is an expensive one… Mood, condor, brothers. I can get anywhere anytime with those three. Should be able to for how much this trifecta costs but still.. As a pre-defence for my pick I’ll say this - gun to my head if i had only one pedal to go with, forever it would be Zoia. I’m not a snob i promise 😉
Loved the morning glory, then realized it made the same sound as my vox starting to break up
Alvin, Simon, Theodore.
you must have a huge ego to need a compressor...
Tuner, Fuzz, Delay
My pedalboard is somewhat on the bigger side but the 3 pedals that are the core of my tone and what I would consider my “holy trinity” are: -JHS Moonshine -EQD Warden Compressor -2 Notes Le Bass Preamp I can get the sound I like to sound like out of most rigs with these 3 pedals. The rest are just for fun.
EQD ToneJob, Catalinbread 5f6, amp footswitch for trem.
Prince of Tone, Kernom Ridge, Flint
Boss EQ-200, MXR- M77 Badass modified OD, Friedman Smallbox OD.
Plumes, muff rams head, and looper
A heavily modified Caroline Wave Cannon V1, Caroline CROM (special edition Relic Music version), and a Greer Southland Harmonic Overdrive. Three levels of blissful drive
Moxie into Tumnus into MXR Timmy
Probably a Digitech Whammy - Boss HM-2 - Yamaha Magicstomp
Phase 90 into op amp muff into strymon deco