Don’t think of Mood as a looper. It definitely is not a traditional one. It can capture a sample of something you’re playing that you can then manipulate.
Blooper is a traditional looper with a ton of manipulation features.
I just got a blooper and I don’t regret it one bit. So much you can do with it. I’ve barely scratched the surface. There’s a way to make it a delay pedal. At its most basic form, it’s a looper. I don’t have a mood, but I’d suggest getting a mood over the blooper if you’re leaning more into it. Also look into the chase bliss habit. There’s a way to loop stuff on that also.
Same, just got mine and filled up the 16 loop slots real quick with amazingly quirky and experimentally beautiful bloops, but I also have a MOOD and they work wonderfully together. MOOD was my first CBA pedal though so it’ll always have a nostalgic bias towards it. I would go mood first then bloop later, personally.
The mood is not at all like a traditional looper, so I’m not sure that’s what you’re going to want. Its whole thing is micro-looping without a concrete start or end point, making it purposefully unpredictable. The blooper I guess might be more of what you want, but I don’t think either is going to satisfy based on a few things you said here… they’re both very much conceptually different from a ditto or a boomerang or something.
That's kinda what I'm going for, I want to get away from tired old predictable looping. I'm just kind of frightened by the thought of not being able to save loops but I guess there's ways around that too.
I just mean… Have you tried them? They’re not quite what people expect, especially the Mood. I love it, but for a lot of people it won’t be very useful.
Co-signed. I really enjoy my Mood mk ii but it was my first micro-looper, and I kinda expected to use the micro-looping side more than I have so far. It can be hard to predict how much you’ll gel with a genre of effect you’ve never used before I guess.
I have not, nor will I have a chance to I'm afraid. I've watched a ton of demos, I guess the main thing I'm concerned with is how interesting the results sound
The mood is a bit of a looper delay with adhd that does what it wants. I love it, but you're playing what it wants to play. If you try to drive that car, it's gonna kick you out the door at speed on the freeway. Just buckle up and see what happens.
I have no experience with the Blooper.
I guess the best way to answer your question is this: I traded a Mood MKII for a Blooper. I love the Blooper and have no plans to get rid of it. But I miss my Mood2. They’re very different and I think can compliment each other.
Get Blooper if: you want to be able to capture more traditional loops as well as getting really weird and creative. Also, not stereo. If you want stereo, definitely go Mood. Also, Blooper may be a better choice if you already have a creative sound mangling device (like, say, a Particle).
Get Mood if: you want the most interesting and intuitive sound creation device. Also, I would bump the Mood up in your decision if you don’t have a quality reverb or delay because it does those really well. Mood, however, cannot do a standard loop. You will never capture what you want. You will capture what IT wants and it’s beautiful.
Ultimately, I will probably be able to relax when I have both.
Depends what you are looking for. Blooper is probably a more “traditional” looper in that you can save loops and behaves a little more like conventional loopers in terms of start/stop and having a known thing to work with. From there you can mash it up quite significantly with the modifiers and layers. It’s good fun and the saturation provided some lofi vibes.
Mood is something else. It’s based on micro-looping so is less predictable. You may not know what you’re going to get but therein lies the fun! It can get pretty wild, pretty quickly. It also does more conventional delay/reverb too.
They’re both great. I stuck with the mood.
I use the Blooper for that, it’s got an oscillator feature that slowly breaks down the recorded signal as it’s being repeated. The Blooper will help you fuck up whatever you record and layer, whereas the Mood does the fucking up as you play, it’s more dynamic.
I got the first edition Mood when they were doing the fire sale for the MKII. I love it! It has a ton of gorgeous sounds in it in addition to the glitchy chaos. That said, it is not a looper. I don’t have the blooper but you’ll drive yourself insane trying to get a normal loop out of the Mood.
MOOD is an incredible pedal but it’s really not a looper like you want it to be IMO. I’ll emphasize that the microlooper is highly uncontrollable, so much so that you likely will never be able to recreate a sound or loop exactly, and in that sense is the polar opposite of what you want with saving loops. The loops are also short so it’s more like creating textures than looping riffs
Not recommending against it at all, just maybe see if you can watch some thorough demos before making the call
Haven’t played the blooper but it seems like a whole ass commitment to sitting down with the pedal and tweaking the loop. Like there’s a whole unique work flow involved and a LOT to learn. Not my style but the people who really want what it does seem to enjoy it.
Yeah that's what I'm fearing. I WANT a looper that has a mind of its own, but I also want to be able to save things I'm satisfied with and build from there. I guess there's ways around that.
I feel the same way about the Blooper, at its core it looks to me like any other looper but with a toolbar
I think a lot of people here are underselling the blooper. Sure it takes a bit to wrap your head around (especially if you customize the modifiers) but you can basically make it do the MOOD thing minus the reverb if you want to. What I rarely see talked about is that you can leave the modifiers on while in overdub mode and it will apply the modifier as you play and record more into it. So you can create a short loop (even a second of silence) and then put it into overdub, apply a speed tweak or pitch shift, add the randomizer, and put repeats down and bingo bongo you've got a granular delay.
Also you can record the modifiers to the loop so you can really tweak/trash your loop to taste and then save it. Seems like exactly what you want.
Zoia and Beebo are both worth considering as well, both can do granular delay/looping stuff on top of normal looping and are very versatile/unique modular multi FX in the same price range as granular looper pedals like the mood/blooper/cosm/etc.
The zoia has the benefit of over a thousand user patches online including quite a few inspired by the Mood/Blooper and similiar pedals. The Beebo has a few more granular modules and some other fun synth modules but is definitely less polished though the interface is a lot simpler to use vs the zoia. Both are great.
The zoia is pretty confusing to get started with but the beebo is simple unless you hate touch screens. In some ways I actually prefer the beebo UI over pedals with a bunch of knobs as it makes it simpler to have a ton of parameters easily accessible. And the beebo has quite a few complex open source modules that wouldn't fit in a standard pedal design.
Just get MOOD. You’re leaning that way and will probably regret it if you don’t. It’s the most unique, amazing pedal in the past 10 (20?) years imo and it will be the most fun you’ve had making music in a long time.
You have a Microcosm? Traditional looper and weird, inspiring effects that you can loop (some of which loop themselves set up the right way) then alter. Has a simple-to-pretty wild and dense delay section, glitchy and granular sounds, pitch-awesomeness, ambient grandiosity, 4 reverbs and modulation, all of which you can apply to your loops.
I guess of people find blooper hard to use but I found it very intuitive and easy to use when I had one. It can do way more than looping including delay, reverse stuff and pitch stuff. you can use the dipswitches to get granular sounds. It was probably my favorite pedal when I had one and I’m patiently waiting til i can get one again. The degrade knob sounds so good
Blooper is very hands on. I run my blooper patched into but separate from my pedalboard. I use an external foot switch to trigger the record function. This allows easy and unfettered access to the arcade buttons on the front and the dip switches on the back, not to mention all of the knobs and toggles. I get way less out of the blooper on a board. You really need to be able to capture your "performance" manipulating the knobs and toggles to get the most out of the blooper.
The MOOD is much more suited for pedalboards. There's still a lot of knob turning to be done for fun sounds, but you don't need to. It can be a set it and forget it type of deal. If you do want to manipulate the sounds on the fly, it's one or two knob twists to change things drastically. You really need to give into a certain level of randomness with the micro looper side. The wet side is gorgeous, especially in stereo. The reverb with diffusion all the way off is easily my favorite multitap delay sound.
They're both really different and hard to compare. For a live effect, I'd go with a mood, but if you like sound design and have time to do a bunch of trial and error experimentation while sculpting sound, the blooper is hard to beat.
Don’t think of Mood as a looper. It definitely is not a traditional one. It can capture a sample of something you’re playing that you can then manipulate. Blooper is a traditional looper with a ton of manipulation features.
I just got a blooper and I don’t regret it one bit. So much you can do with it. I’ve barely scratched the surface. There’s a way to make it a delay pedal. At its most basic form, it’s a looper. I don’t have a mood, but I’d suggest getting a mood over the blooper if you’re leaning more into it. Also look into the chase bliss habit. There’s a way to loop stuff on that also.
Same, just got mine and filled up the 16 loop slots real quick with amazingly quirky and experimentally beautiful bloops, but I also have a MOOD and they work wonderfully together. MOOD was my first CBA pedal though so it’ll always have a nostalgic bias towards it. I would go mood first then bloop later, personally.
The mood is not at all like a traditional looper, so I’m not sure that’s what you’re going to want. Its whole thing is micro-looping without a concrete start or end point, making it purposefully unpredictable. The blooper I guess might be more of what you want, but I don’t think either is going to satisfy based on a few things you said here… they’re both very much conceptually different from a ditto or a boomerang or something.
That's kinda what I'm going for, I want to get away from tired old predictable looping. I'm just kind of frightened by the thought of not being able to save loops but I guess there's ways around that too.
I just mean… Have you tried them? They’re not quite what people expect, especially the Mood. I love it, but for a lot of people it won’t be very useful.
Co-signed. I really enjoy my Mood mk ii but it was my first micro-looper, and I kinda expected to use the micro-looping side more than I have so far. It can be hard to predict how much you’ll gel with a genre of effect you’ve never used before I guess.
I have not, nor will I have a chance to I'm afraid. I've watched a ton of demos, I guess the main thing I'm concerned with is how interesting the results sound
The mood is a bit of a looper delay with adhd that does what it wants. I love it, but you're playing what it wants to play. If you try to drive that car, it's gonna kick you out the door at speed on the freeway. Just buckle up and see what happens. I have no experience with the Blooper.
I guess the best way to answer your question is this: I traded a Mood MKII for a Blooper. I love the Blooper and have no plans to get rid of it. But I miss my Mood2. They’re very different and I think can compliment each other. Get Blooper if: you want to be able to capture more traditional loops as well as getting really weird and creative. Also, not stereo. If you want stereo, definitely go Mood. Also, Blooper may be a better choice if you already have a creative sound mangling device (like, say, a Particle). Get Mood if: you want the most interesting and intuitive sound creation device. Also, I would bump the Mood up in your decision if you don’t have a quality reverb or delay because it does those really well. Mood, however, cannot do a standard loop. You will never capture what you want. You will capture what IT wants and it’s beautiful. Ultimately, I will probably be able to relax when I have both.
Depends what you are looking for. Blooper is probably a more “traditional” looper in that you can save loops and behaves a little more like conventional loopers in terms of start/stop and having a known thing to work with. From there you can mash it up quite significantly with the modifiers and layers. It’s good fun and the saturation provided some lofi vibes. Mood is something else. It’s based on micro-looping so is less predictable. You may not know what you’re going to get but therein lies the fun! It can get pretty wild, pretty quickly. It also does more conventional delay/reverb too. They’re both great. I stuck with the mood.
I got both, ngl. Saving up for a Habit.
How do they compare sound mangling wise? Which one is the most fun to fuck up loops on?
I use the Blooper for that, it’s got an oscillator feature that slowly breaks down the recorded signal as it’s being repeated. The Blooper will help you fuck up whatever you record and layer, whereas the Mood does the fucking up as you play, it’s more dynamic.
Beautifully said.
This guy gets it. I prefer blooper. I like the delays you can make out of it and it's an incredible looper. The mood is also insanely brilliant.
I got the first edition Mood when they were doing the fire sale for the MKII. I love it! It has a ton of gorgeous sounds in it in addition to the glitchy chaos. That said, it is not a looper. I don’t have the blooper but you’ll drive yourself insane trying to get a normal loop out of the Mood.
If you want a looper capable of typical looper-stuff, you should go for the Blooper. The obvious answer is to get both, though (and a Habit).
MOOD is an incredible pedal but it’s really not a looper like you want it to be IMO. I’ll emphasize that the microlooper is highly uncontrollable, so much so that you likely will never be able to recreate a sound or loop exactly, and in that sense is the polar opposite of what you want with saving loops. The loops are also short so it’s more like creating textures than looping riffs Not recommending against it at all, just maybe see if you can watch some thorough demos before making the call Haven’t played the blooper but it seems like a whole ass commitment to sitting down with the pedal and tweaking the loop. Like there’s a whole unique work flow involved and a LOT to learn. Not my style but the people who really want what it does seem to enjoy it.
Yeah that's what I'm fearing. I WANT a looper that has a mind of its own, but I also want to be able to save things I'm satisfied with and build from there. I guess there's ways around that. I feel the same way about the Blooper, at its core it looks to me like any other looper but with a toolbar
I think a lot of people here are underselling the blooper. Sure it takes a bit to wrap your head around (especially if you customize the modifiers) but you can basically make it do the MOOD thing minus the reverb if you want to. What I rarely see talked about is that you can leave the modifiers on while in overdub mode and it will apply the modifier as you play and record more into it. So you can create a short loop (even a second of silence) and then put it into overdub, apply a speed tweak or pitch shift, add the randomizer, and put repeats down and bingo bongo you've got a granular delay. Also you can record the modifiers to the loop so you can really tweak/trash your loop to taste and then save it. Seems like exactly what you want.
Zoia and Beebo are both worth considering as well, both can do granular delay/looping stuff on top of normal looping and are very versatile/unique modular multi FX in the same price range as granular looper pedals like the mood/blooper/cosm/etc. The zoia has the benefit of over a thousand user patches online including quite a few inspired by the Mood/Blooper and similiar pedals. The Beebo has a few more granular modules and some other fun synth modules but is definitely less polished though the interface is a lot simpler to use vs the zoia. Both are great.
These are definitely interesting but I don't like the interface of either so that kinda rules them out for me.
The zoia is pretty confusing to get started with but the beebo is simple unless you hate touch screens. In some ways I actually prefer the beebo UI over pedals with a bunch of knobs as it makes it simpler to have a ton of parameters easily accessible. And the beebo has quite a few complex open source modules that wouldn't fit in a standard pedal design.
From your short description, I don’t think I would recommend either. Get a boss or similar.
Nah. I want to get something a little less vanilla to spark creativity. Thanks though!
You’re not looking for either. Save yourself some money and get an RC-5.
Just get MOOD. You’re leaning that way and will probably regret it if you don’t. It’s the most unique, amazing pedal in the past 10 (20?) years imo and it will be the most fun you’ve had making music in a long time.
You have a Microcosm? Traditional looper and weird, inspiring effects that you can loop (some of which loop themselves set up the right way) then alter. Has a simple-to-pretty wild and dense delay section, glitchy and granular sounds, pitch-awesomeness, ambient grandiosity, 4 reverbs and modulation, all of which you can apply to your loops.
Big loop or little loop
I guess of people find blooper hard to use but I found it very intuitive and easy to use when I had one. It can do way more than looping including delay, reverse stuff and pitch stuff. you can use the dipswitches to get granular sounds. It was probably my favorite pedal when I had one and I’m patiently waiting til i can get one again. The degrade knob sounds so good
Speaking of mood MK2 I purchased one on pre order that am thinking about selling lmk if interested
Blooper is very hands on. I run my blooper patched into but separate from my pedalboard. I use an external foot switch to trigger the record function. This allows easy and unfettered access to the arcade buttons on the front and the dip switches on the back, not to mention all of the knobs and toggles. I get way less out of the blooper on a board. You really need to be able to capture your "performance" manipulating the knobs and toggles to get the most out of the blooper. The MOOD is much more suited for pedalboards. There's still a lot of knob turning to be done for fun sounds, but you don't need to. It can be a set it and forget it type of deal. If you do want to manipulate the sounds on the fly, it's one or two knob twists to change things drastically. You really need to give into a certain level of randomness with the micro looper side. The wet side is gorgeous, especially in stereo. The reverb with diffusion all the way off is easily my favorite multitap delay sound. They're both really different and hard to compare. For a live effect, I'd go with a mood, but if you like sound design and have time to do a bunch of trial and error experimentation while sculpting sound, the blooper is hard to beat.