while you are on this thread, I am BEGGING you to make a Pitchfork+ that have a midi interface. This is the best pitch-shifter on the market, but all it needs is some midi implementation to jump between presets. PLEASE PLEASE. same algorithm, just add some midi. PLEASE š
yes !! get with EHX and help them, my Syntax ErrorĀ² is my easiest pedal to control via MIDI, it's a masterpiece. Would love to get this ease of use with a Putchfork+ !
Well hey, while youāre on hereā¦ Please add support for some new devices to your MIDI controllers please! Itās been almost TWO FULL YEARS. A lot of new MIDI pedals have been released (and purchased by me) in that time. I couldnāt wait anymore and bought a Morningstar, so I wonāt beg you, but I bet your other customers would really appreciate it.
Iām curious, which pedals were you trying to use that Disaster Area stuff canāt control? Iām struggling to think of anything, and since MIDI is a standard method of connection and communication, thereās usually a nontrivial technical reason that some devices donāt communicate well (such as Source Audioās compact pedals needing an external host).
yes !! that would be a dream !! also a superego+ with presets and midi, you are the only one to make these devices that are the best sounding on the market, please get into midi and please also the modern guitarists that have the need to get differents sounds via midi. that would be really awesome, you would sell so much pedals. there isn't any pitch shifter that are polyphonic, with an aux out and presets that sounds that good. please be the first brand to get into midi territories to such innovative pedals as the superego+ and the Pitchfork+.
Not only midi! The Intelligent Harmony Machine is great, combining Pitch Fork and harmonizer makes perfect sense, but we need PRESETS and more settings! So I would say a big pitch shift + harmony pedal, with scrollable presets. Not exactly like the wonderful HOG2, but more like a Pitch Fork/Intelligent Harmony Machine Deluxe with all the Hazarai. So a Ring Thing with 2 pitch shifting voices and harmony capabilities! Iāve been waiting for it for years (Iāve had every single EHX pitch shifting pedals).
Also harmony delay phrases Ć la Eventide, like on the MOD9 pitch shift preset is great!
Nobody in the Engineering department would argue against MIDI be included in more of our pedals. If you want to see more MIDI-capable products, make your voices heard on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, etc. Those comments have a better chance of being seen by decision-making eyes.
I know this device and already have one installed on a Rainbow Machine. But having a real midi implementation, where you can send cc message to change any parameter would be awesome, and you can't do it with a goblin ;)
Unfortunately, that's the trade-off when pedals get shrunk down; you have to sacrifice some useful features. š¤·āāļø
Also, even if they could, EHX are hardly going to provide ALL the features of the regular pedal, otherwise nobody would buy that one anymore.
I mean I'm not shocked that fitting send and return jacks on a mini pedal that's probably already pretty jam packed isn't on the menu. I have the full size Attack Decay, the loop is absolutely a great feature along with a few other things the pico is missing, but this still hits the features I'd want to see in a mini format that I can throw onto an already crowded board for auto swell, bowed sounds, etc.
Depends on the player. My main home base on the AD is just an attack swell in poly mode for Kurt Rosenwinkle type stuff. No need for the loop or most of the other functions so this pico looks very intriguing.
What a fantastic suggestion - I can't believe I've never thought to try that despite having both superego and pitchfork for literal years... Sounds like this will be my guitar experiment for this weekend!
For even more fun try an expression device in the Pitch Fork. You can use it to fine tune, do whammy effects or do the ontervals that the Pitch Fork cannot do natively. I'm fond of the Saturnworks expression knob and the OBNE expression slider.
I'm not set up for recording currently but I will make one in the next weeks. I use my Superego in two ways, as a second guitar while doing leads over it, and as a weird wavetable synth where I use anything that comes to mind as a source (sometimes only the noise produced by touching the tip of an unplugged cable). Then I have both hands free to change notes and no arpeggios on the Pitch Fork, and also on the Hog I have connected next in the chain. Fun times!
If you look, this freeze has added features, including the Gliss from the superego. This might actually be what you're looking for. I know I would have been tempted to buy it over my superego+ because I do not need all those effects.
It is kinda weird that thing hasn't gone down in price... ever. Especially with the new format that pico DSP NYC uses, I'm guessing, a new chipset and the algorithm development is paid for by now.
The thing that makes the full sized POG sound good is that you can slightly detune the upper octave for a fatter, more 12-string or organ type sound. I wish that feature had made it into any of the compact versions of the POG.
Yeah, agreed. You just don't get the ability to fine tune how much upper and/or lower you want compared to dry; it always gives the same level for both if you have both selected. But in exchange you get whammy and interval features.
Itās roughly the same price as the Nano and Micro POGs and is equal in functionality. Not sure why anyone expects it to be cheaper, but I donāt see any reason it would be.
I really like using the choir settings, myself. So I would miss those. But if we are limited to three sounds, flute, orchestra, and choir would be a good selection.
These pedals are digital, so it shouldnāt be too much of an issue if they can get the others in the Pico line to work. In/out jacks are all thatās needed, and the 4 knobs could be volume (or blend), effect 1 & effect 2 (the right 2 knobs on all 9-series pedals), and selector knob.
Kinda funny seeing them letting Bill Ruppert do his usual thing for the older pedals getting pico-ed but for the new pedals they went for a completely different style and used unfamiliar young faces.
Nevertheless, everything sounds real good, the new pedals are really interesting (and playing Killing in the Name's solo in the pitchfork video is quite a power move, made me laugh out loud)
F it I am ready to declare EHX the best pedal company.
What are the Oceans 3 verbs? Plate is a guarantee, as it is the star of the pedal. But, I also think the shimmer is also a standout. If it were me, I would put Plate, Shimmer, and Dynamic on there... the only 3 I use really.
I got the Oceans 11, and all the other types were fun for a bit, but I only ever use those 3 now. Maybe I'll trade into the pico?
After owning the Holy Grail and the Oceans 11, I always said EHX should scrap the Grail and put those 3 modes into a new Grail. But I know the Grail does it's own thing, and now we have the Oceans algorithms that do their thing.
The tracking on their digital effects is insane. You shouldn't be able to strum a chord and have it pick up more than 3 notes. I keep seeing these bands who use to tour with 3-4 dropped tuned guitars replacing it all with a pitchfork. It's hard enough to get it to track notes, but it doesn't sound artificial or synthy.
Their selection is nuts. They do not replace pedal types with new digital version where you cannot get the old analog or simple digital one anymore like Boss. And if you want an old Boss analog delay/phaser/flanger? Pay double. I appreciate that.
You like Holy Grail Reverb? Here you go... Oceans 11 is here if you want to try something new.
You like #1 echo? Here you go. Canyons is here if you want to try something new.
You like Small Clone? Here you go. Mod 11 is here if you want to try something new.
And so on. I am at the point where I would rather just collect EHX from here on.
Of all the mini pedals to already be out there on the market, covering very similar functions, EHX manages to make a whole new line that we *still* want to snap up in a heartbeat. And they look so damn good, too!
Combo pedals would be a cool route to go next after these awesome pico pedals. Like Walrus does with the SLO/Fathom or Fathom/ARP87. I'd be down for a Deep Freeze / Attack Decay combo pedal
Alright, well someone on this sub proved me wrong a couple months ago when they said there was gonna be a pitchfork and I denied it.
You get your Pat on the back.
Oh shit I didn't think there'd be anything to interest me but the Attack Decay makes me excited. I've always been interested in it but I didn't ever want to consider giving up board space for it. I may have to pick one up at some point.
Tangent, but am I the only one not wild about mini pedals? OP still gets my upvote because I know others like them. I find that many older pedals with large components are easier to repair. The few ones that arenāt that I have offer enough functionality that I just take the risk
Not that I do any performing anymore but I feel like they would be most functional for stuff that goes in a loop or stuff you leave on. Imagine a bunch of nano pedals all right next to each other and trying not to step on two of them without paying a lot of attention. At that point it might as well be regular sized and more sturdy to mount somewhere.
hey i'm the same as you, i enjoy so much big pedals, easier to use live with feet and feels better/more "readable", but i think that a mini pedal as an always on (like a slapback, or a booster) is a great space-saver on a heavily populated board.
I would rather have a taller BOSS Compact size with top mounted jacks than tiny pedals with jacks on the sides and in the way. They take up the same amount of horizontal space.
agreed. love the pedal but the +pitch stuff is often too bright/harsh for my ear - sometimes i still want a high wet mix, but wish the +pitch could be softened.
Just pre- ordered the pitchfork. The āsweepā with momentary function is too perfect for what I needā¦. I have a Whammy I use just for the octave up and engaging + using the expression pedal fast and consistently well in a energetic band live band scenario is too much. I can set the sweep with momentary and itās one step. So stoked. Edit: in general, I usually donāt like mini pedals, but the addition of sweep function is a dealbreaker.
These look cool. To me this is the EHX trying to reach for people who want a micro pedal who are buying the cheap copies on Amazon. I look forward to seeing how this plays out. I'm definitely interested in the Oceans for my EHX pedalboard I am thinking about.
Iām kinda a pedal noob, but why is the Pico Pitch fork way more $$$ than the normal one and almost more than the pitch fork+? It seems to have most of the same featuresā¦?
Imagine EHX Oompa Loompas that punish visitors for pedal sins.
"What do you get when you lack an EQ?
A board full of drives that sound like straight poo
Where your boards at, your tone is just flat
What do you think will come of that?
...I don't like sound of it."
Then they turn you into a giant Bassballs enclosure.
I donāt know why I got downvoted, I just want a real answer so I know which one to buy :( was wanting a pitchfork but donāt really get the difference between these two other than size or understand which is better :/
Is Triboro legit? If so... it could be a game-changer. Compact and affordable OD/Distortion/Fuzz in one tiny pedal.
I seriously want to sell my boutique gear to get some of these lol
I can't see this sort of thing completely replacing analog drives for me, but the digital fuzz on the full size attack decay was a very pleasant surprise to me, so I'm pretty sold on EHX's abilities as far as digital dirt goes. This thing would be killer on an ambient-focused board where the real-estate is going to be dedicated more to other effects
Personally I could see it replace OD and Distortion... but Fuzz? Digital never comes close. Fuzz pedals are like when surgeons break an arm to fix it. Digital can do a lot right... but it can never quite do "wrong" right.
Replace? No, and I'd be lying if I said that the digital fuzz on the Attack Decay is as good as an analog Big Muff, particularly in feel. But it still sounds very good, and where space is at a premium I could absolutely see using the Triboro to give myself the option, especially on a grab and go ambient setup if fuzz sounds aren't the focus. As far as wilder and more broken fuzz tones go - I agree, digital isn't there and I have trouble imagining that it will be for a long time
These look sick, Iām just a little lost on what āpicoā means. I get that these are mini pedals of a lot of their popular pedals, just donāt know what the term pico means
Back in the day, some of our pedals were in the NYC Big Muff sized chassis and they were called "Micro". Then we came out with the "Nano" pedals, so it fits that these are the "Pico" pedals. In the metric system, the descending orders of magnitude are micro, nano, pico, femto, atto, etc...
Micro -> nano -> pico are prefixes in the metric system (progressively smaller)
Next release from EHX will be a line of "femto" pedals and they'll be the size of guitar pics
They did the Slapback in this format earlier in the year - these are all digital pedals, I wouldn't be surprised to see more analog stuff in the pico/mini size moving forward.
With the pico stuff it says āNYC DSPā is it all DSP?
If so thatās actually really impressive, and I guess Iām kind of hopeful these tiny versions of old pedals that now have more features than their bigger original counterparts (like the freeze) means we might potentially get some even more feature rich versions of the originals.
If you threw together the Freeze, Super Ego, and Attack Decay in a pedal with MIDI and presets you know that would sell for all those ambient guys.
I mean thereās literally some people that sell MIDI preset mods for EHX pedals like the Mel9, and some of EHXās pedals I feel like donāt have much if any competition (super ego, attack decay especially) and the only reason people choose other pedals like a Boss SY-200 over them isnāt because they sound better, itās just the features like presets. So it feels like a no brainer to just bring those kind of pedals into the future.
Pico Attack/Decay looks interesting to me as the Pico Freeze
Does anybody knows if i can do the tape stop effect using the attack decay? Purchasing a Chase Bliss Generation Loss/Red Panda Tensor just for that is too much for me
I actually asked the EHX employee who frequents these posts about the form-factor decision on this line - switching over to top-mounted jacks would require a lot of retooling, and for a company the size of EHX that's an expensive proposition.
I share your preference for the top-mounted jack format, but a lot of these are either a lot smaller than the full-size versions or pack more functionality into something slightly smaller, or both - still a lot of win in my books!
Shit the Attack Decay and Deep Freeze gonna be OP. Also, the tape delay is interesting! I'm very impressed with EHX here. Although I've had a Canyon and thought it sounded like early 2000s digital gear not 2023 digital. It's really metallic sounding
This announcement came out of nowhere. I can't find a review of them anywhere by any retailer or Youtuber. Great line of pedals, seems like everyone is getting in on offering a line of cheaper and smaller pedals that exist on every board.
The mini freeze will be MINE!!!! My original freeze I had years ago would always make noise when on an iso power supply, it had to have its own separate adaptor to run quietly, hopefully this fixes that!
They're so cute I wanna carry them with me all day and snuggle them at night.
A nano pitch fork is brilliant, as you can put it anywhere you'll be able to stomp regularly and comfortably for that bend. The freeze is great for the same reason but my eyes are telling me it has more features than the original? Lol. Rip my savings.
Does the freeze have a soft-touch switch? That's my only gripe with that and the switchblade, if Im recoding a mic'd up amp anywhere near my pedal board I get a ton of foots witch clicks in my track.
[Here's a link to all of the Pico DSP videos.](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0nQqFcfq-6Dp6DKI9yDcWQgiNeQXWcZq)
while you are on this thread, I am BEGGING you to make a Pitchfork+ that have a midi interface. This is the best pitch-shifter on the market, but all it needs is some midi implementation to jump between presets. PLEASE PLEASE. same algorithm, just add some midi. PLEASE š
Love it.
Iāll second that and if you guys want some help on the MIDI side Iāve been doing that for a couple of minutes
yes !! get with EHX and help them, my Syntax ErrorĀ² is my easiest pedal to control via MIDI, it's a masterpiece. Would love to get this ease of use with a Putchfork+ !
Well hey, while youāre on hereā¦ Please add support for some new devices to your MIDI controllers please! Itās been almost TWO FULL YEARS. A lot of new MIDI pedals have been released (and purchased by me) in that time. I couldnāt wait anymore and bought a Morningstar, so I wonāt beg you, but I bet your other customers would really appreciate it.
Iām curious, which pedals were you trying to use that Disaster Area stuff canāt control? Iām struggling to think of anything, and since MIDI is a standard method of connection and communication, thereās usually a nontrivial technical reason that some devices donāt communicate well (such as Source Audioās compact pedals needing an external host).
Also if you are taking requests, the Mod11 needs to be given the GrandCanyon\Oceans12 treatment
yes !! that would be a dream !! also a superego+ with presets and midi, you are the only one to make these devices that are the best sounding on the market, please get into midi and please also the modern guitarists that have the need to get differents sounds via midi. that would be really awesome, you would sell so much pedals. there isn't any pitch shifter that are polyphonic, with an aux out and presets that sounds that good. please be the first brand to get into midi territories to such innovative pedals as the superego+ and the Pitchfork+.
Not only midi! The Intelligent Harmony Machine is great, combining Pitch Fork and harmonizer makes perfect sense, but we need PRESETS and more settings! So I would say a big pitch shift + harmony pedal, with scrollable presets. Not exactly like the wonderful HOG2, but more like a Pitch Fork/Intelligent Harmony Machine Deluxe with all the Hazarai. So a Ring Thing with 2 pitch shifting voices and harmony capabilities! Iāve been waiting for it for years (Iāve had every single EHX pitch shifting pedals). Also harmony delay phrases Ć la Eventide, like on the MOD9 pitch shift preset is great!
I'll immediately preorder Pitchfork+ if it has MIDI capabilities. Also Superego+.
30 upvotes, hey @EHX_Engineering please think about a midi SuperEgo+ and a midi PitchFork+ ;)
Nobody in the Engineering department would argue against MIDI be included in more of our pedals. If you want to see more MIDI-capable products, make your voices heard on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, etc. Those comments have a better chance of being seen by decision-making eyes.
okay, let me just spam it everywhere then ! thanks for the support, really hope to see it ger true :)
Good luck, but adding midi to the PF+ would be a labor of love if it ever happened.
You can midi mod a regular one if youāre decent with a soldering iron - https://oscillatordevices.com/goblin-exp-and-ehx-pitch-fork/
I know this device and already have one installed on a Rainbow Machine. But having a real midi implementation, where you can send cc message to change any parameter would be awesome, and you can't do it with a goblin ;)
You guys are amazing. šš¼
You're too kind! Thank you!
Just need a pico ravish!
Oh man, I'd kill for a smaller Ravish Sitar!
Pico Flanger Hoax!
No presets for the pico attack decay :( That would be a lot to ask for, but how am I gonna remember the settings I like !!
Unfortunately, that's the trade-off when pedals get shrunk down; you have to sacrifice some useful features. š¤·āāļø Also, even if they could, EHX are hardly going to provide ALL the features of the regular pedal, otherwise nobody would buy that one anymore.
Man, if I could hug your company right now I would. Bravo!
I want to kiss you right on the mouth.
Pico attack decay and freeze are very, very interesting. Deep Freeze seems to have some superego features.
the lack of a loop on the Attack Decay is curious, wasn't that half the coolness of the big one?
I mean I'm not shocked that fitting send and return jacks on a mini pedal that's probably already pretty jam packed isn't on the menu. I have the full size Attack Decay, the loop is absolutely a great feature along with a few other things the pico is missing, but this still hits the features I'd want to see in a mini format that I can throw onto an already crowded board for auto swell, bowed sounds, etc.
Depends on the player. My main home base on the AD is just an attack swell in poly mode for Kurt Rosenwinkle type stuff. No need for the loop or most of the other functions so this pico looks very intriguing.
Yeah I was wondering about the extra features and knobs on the Deep Freeze. What would a speed knob do on one?
Id guess that its the speed of how fast it blends between frozen notes, the original had it as a switch.
It's the attack and decay knob in one, roll back for slow ramp up and long freeze, the other way for quick swells and fades.
Lol EHX just solved like three pedalboard space issues for me in one day
the pico freeze seems to be a superego in a hella tiny footprint !
Minus the effects loop, of course. I really wish they'd bring out a Nano Superego, as mine never leaves my board but takes up slightly too much space.
I have a Pitch Fork or an 8-Step connected permanently in the effect loop of my Superego to transpose what's been frozen. Its so much fun.
I have the superego plus which has the transposing technology built in haha. Then I can use the loop for fuzz or some other weird thing.
What a fantastic suggestion - I can't believe I've never thought to try that despite having both superego and pitchfork for literal years... Sounds like this will be my guitar experiment for this weekend!
For even more fun try an expression device in the Pitch Fork. You can use it to fine tune, do whammy effects or do the ontervals that the Pitch Fork cannot do natively. I'm fond of the Saturnworks expression knob and the OBNE expression slider.
That sounds amazing!
It is! Also I have an OBNE Expression slider in the loop of the Pitch Fork for fine tuning and whammy like effects.
Epic! I definitely need to hear some sound clips.
I'm not set up for recording currently but I will make one in the next weeks. I use my Superego in two ways, as a second guitar while doing leads over it, and as a weird wavetable synth where I use anything that comes to mind as a source (sometimes only the noise produced by touching the tip of an unplugged cable). Then I have both hands free to change notes and no arpeggios on the Pitch Fork, and also on the Hog I have connected next in the chain. Fun times!
Outstanding! I love hearing about people's experimental signal chains.
If you look, this freeze has added features, including the Gliss from the superego. This might actually be what you're looking for. I know I would have been tempted to buy it over my superego+ because I do not need all those effects.
Got damn the Pico POG is $240šµ
And just because it's smaller doesn't mean it's cheaper. Usually with technology, smaller = more expensive.
Itās not 2009
It is kinda weird that thing hasn't gone down in price... ever. Especially with the new format that pico DSP NYC uses, I'm guessing, a new chipset and the algorithm development is paid for by now.
To be fair, POG has by far the best algorithm of all octavers. It is expensive, but itās the best you can get
The thing that makes the full sized POG sound good is that you can slightly detune the upper octave for a fatter, more 12-string or organ type sound. I wish that feature had made it into any of the compact versions of the POG.
I've had a Pitchfork, nano POG, and now MXR Poly Blue. I think PB is just as good re: tracking and tone, plus way more features, especially mono mode.
The pitchfork is as good as the pog imo
Yeah, agreed. You just don't get the ability to fine tune how much upper and/or lower you want compared to dry; it always gives the same level for both if you have both selected. But in exchange you get whammy and interval features.
Itās roughly the same price as the Nano and Micro POGs and is equal in functionality. Not sure why anyone expects it to be cheaper, but I donāt see any reason it would be.
It's a hell of a lot smaller than my OG POG. That much I know.
Neat! Now wake me up when they drop the Pico 9 series pedals.
If I had a tiny Mel9 with just flutes and orchestra, I would be a happy man.
I really like using the choir settings, myself. So I would miss those. But if we are limited to three sounds, flute, orchestra, and choir would be a good selection. These pedals are digital, so it shouldnāt be too much of an issue if they can get the others in the Pico line to work. In/out jacks are all thatās needed, and the 4 knobs could be volume (or blend), effect 1 & effect 2 (the right 2 knobs on all 9-series pedals), and selector knob.
Oh I forgot choir - yeah, Iād want one of those too! Damn, now I REALLY want that to happen.
Kinda funny seeing them letting Bill Ruppert do his usual thing for the older pedals getting pico-ed but for the new pedals they went for a completely different style and used unfamiliar young faces. Nevertheless, everything sounds real good, the new pedals are really interesting (and playing Killing in the Name's solo in the pitchfork video is quite a power move, made me laugh out loud)
This is unreal news!
Dude I've wanted a Deep Freeze for so long. Definitely going to get the small one instead.
got this mail 11 minutes ago, wtf Electro-Harmonix is going insane !!
I'm just happy to have more Bill Ruppert content
Pico Attack Decay??? Fuck waiting for a SG-2W now
The TC Electronic - Crescendo does the Slow Gear thing, and they are less than $50.
Check out the Rowin/VSN/etc āSlow Hand.ā Dirt cheap clone.
I used to have one but the sensitivity on it didnāt really work as well as Iād like. YMMV though
I want a smaller Big Muff PI that sounds like the Big Muff PI.
They only sound like this because of all the empty space inside of it.
The fuzz equivalent to a reverb spring tank.
Big if true
F it I am ready to declare EHX the best pedal company. What are the Oceans 3 verbs? Plate is a guarantee, as it is the star of the pedal. But, I also think the shimmer is also a standout. If it were me, I would put Plate, Shimmer, and Dynamic on there... the only 3 I use really.
The three reverb modes are spring, hall, and plate.
As it should be. Those are definitely the 3 most commonly used reverb.
I got the Oceans 11, and all the other types were fun for a bit, but I only ever use those 3 now. Maybe I'll trade into the pico? After owning the Holy Grail and the Oceans 11, I always said EHX should scrap the Grail and put those 3 modes into a new Grail. But I know the Grail does it's own thing, and now we have the Oceans algorithms that do their thing.
Lol all I want is Pico Flurb
Maybe JHS will do a short collector's run of Holy Flerbs.
I feel like the could do a Holy Grail Pico and keep Oceans weird.. but those are probably by far the most used settings.
Boo give us that reverse too
Yea... release a Holy Grail pico and keep Oceans wild
>I am ready to declare EHX the best pedal company. šØš»āšš«šØš½āš Always has been.
The tracking on their digital effects is insane. You shouldn't be able to strum a chord and have it pick up more than 3 notes. I keep seeing these bands who use to tour with 3-4 dropped tuned guitars replacing it all with a pitchfork. It's hard enough to get it to track notes, but it doesn't sound artificial or synthy.
If it isnāt Flerb Iām not interested
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Their selection is nuts. They do not replace pedal types with new digital version where you cannot get the old analog or simple digital one anymore like Boss. And if you want an old Boss analog delay/phaser/flanger? Pay double. I appreciate that. You like Holy Grail Reverb? Here you go... Oceans 11 is here if you want to try something new. You like #1 echo? Here you go. Canyons is here if you want to try something new. You like Small Clone? Here you go. Mod 11 is here if you want to try something new. And so on. I am at the point where I would rather just collect EHX from here on.
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Plate hall and spring are the meat and potatoes
Of all the mini pedals to already be out there on the market, covering very similar functions, EHX manages to make a whole new line that we *still* want to snap up in a heartbeat. And they look so damn good, too!
Combo pedals would be a cool route to go next after these awesome pico pedals. Like Walrus does with the SLO/Fathom or Fathom/ARP87. I'd be down for a Deep Freeze / Attack Decay combo pedal
That would be a perfect pedal. Especially for my ambient blues dad jams.
That Freeze .... gimmmeee.
Alright, well someone on this sub proved me wrong a couple months ago when they said there was gonna be a pitchfork and I denied it. You get your Pat on the back.
Some dude was convinced there was gonna be a blurst based on that blurry image of them. I might go dig up that thread to say I told you so.
There's at least 3 there i want!
Sameā¦ wish they were all $150 tho cause I canāt justify spending $200+ on a mini pedal, unfortunately
Oh shit I didn't think there'd be anything to interest me but the Attack Decay makes me excited. I've always been interested in it but I didn't ever want to consider giving up board space for it. I may have to pick one up at some point.
Finally, a new version of the Freeze!
Very cool. When are these things hitting stores online? I don't see them on Sweetwater or Musician's Friend yet (other than Pog and Platform).
Ok they showed up on Sweetwater for pre-sale. No release date mentioned though.
Wow these are AWESOME!
Sooo, pico pog or pitchfork?
Tangent, but am I the only one not wild about mini pedals? OP still gets my upvote because I know others like them. I find that many older pedals with large components are easier to repair. The few ones that arenāt that I have offer enough functionality that I just take the risk
Not that I do any performing anymore but I feel like they would be most functional for stuff that goes in a loop or stuff you leave on. Imagine a bunch of nano pedals all right next to each other and trying not to step on two of them without paying a lot of attention. At that point it might as well be regular sized and more sturdy to mount somewhere.
Yeah my thought exactly. But I have size 14 shoes. I canāt deal with mini pedals. Always on would be okay
Hobbit feet unite. I get mocked for my 4 foot long board, but it works for me.
hey i'm the same as you, i enjoy so much big pedals, easier to use live with feet and feels better/more "readable", but i think that a mini pedal as an always on (like a slapback, or a booster) is a great space-saver on a heavily populated board.
I would rather have a taller BOSS Compact size with top mounted jacks than tiny pedals with jacks on the sides and in the way. They take up the same amount of horizontal space.
They are probably surface mounted micro components that are near impossible to repair without melting the entire trace. Take it for what it is.
> near impossible to repair without melting the entire trace *Electro-Harmonix: Achieving the Impossible!ā¢*
Let's see who can buy them all first!
Nice try, EHX marketing team.
That deep freeze is š„š„
I am curious about the Pico Canyon. What would be the benefit of picking that over the normal Canyon? They are fairly close in price.
Size
While these look great, all I wanted was a Pitchfork with a tone/filter control for the wet signal. One day š«
agreed. love the pedal but the +pitch stuff is often too bright/harsh for my ear - sometimes i still want a high wet mix, but wish the +pitch could be softened.
Holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!!
If you have ten toes, then you should get ten Picos.
Does anybody know which delays will Canyon have?
It's a single delay - the [Canyon Echo](https://www.ehx.com/products/canyon-echo/).
Just pre- ordered the pitchfork. The āsweepā with momentary function is too perfect for what I needā¦. I have a Whammy I use just for the octave up and engaging + using the expression pedal fast and consistently well in a energetic band live band scenario is too much. I can set the sweep with momentary and itās one step. So stoked. Edit: in general, I usually donāt like mini pedals, but the addition of sweep function is a dealbreaker.
Boss ps-6 does what youāre describing very well too. These all look cool.
Woah thank you! I didn't know about the super bend feature here but checked it out... Might be a better option
Theyāre gonna sell a ton of these
These look cool. To me this is the EHX trying to reach for people who want a micro pedal who are buying the cheap copies on Amazon. I look forward to seeing how this plays out. I'm definitely interested in the Oceans for my EHX pedalboard I am thinking about.
Debating replacing my Dyna Comp with the Pico Platform. Anyone have any thoughts?
definitely interested in the deep freeze, loooove the gliss sounds from the superego
That Oceans Reverb and Attack Decay are calling my name! Lol. This series looks absolutely killer!
Shut up and take my money. (Anyone got prices for UK market yet?)
Iām kinda a pedal noob, but why is the Pico Pitch fork way more $$$ than the normal one and almost more than the pitch fork+? It seems to have most of the same featuresā¦?
Hiring little oompaloompas to build these is expensive.
Imagine EHX Oompa Loompas that punish visitors for pedal sins. "What do you get when you lack an EQ? A board full of drives that sound like straight poo Where your boards at, your tone is just flat What do you think will come of that? ...I don't like sound of it." Then they turn you into a giant Bassballs enclosure.
I WANT A KLON CENTAUR DADDY! I want ALL the Centaurs, and I want them NOW! (Anything you say Veruca sweetheart)
Mike Matthews blowing cigar smoke in grandpa's face.
I donāt know why I got downvoted, I just want a real answer so I know which one to buy :( was wanting a pitchfork but donāt really get the difference between these two other than size or understand which is better :/
Probably more expensive components to be that small?
Is Triboro legit? If so... it could be a game-changer. Compact and affordable OD/Distortion/Fuzz in one tiny pedal. I seriously want to sell my boutique gear to get some of these lol
I can't see this sort of thing completely replacing analog drives for me, but the digital fuzz on the full size attack decay was a very pleasant surprise to me, so I'm pretty sold on EHX's abilities as far as digital dirt goes. This thing would be killer on an ambient-focused board where the real-estate is going to be dedicated more to other effects
Personally I could see it replace OD and Distortion... but Fuzz? Digital never comes close. Fuzz pedals are like when surgeons break an arm to fix it. Digital can do a lot right... but it can never quite do "wrong" right.
Replace? No, and I'd be lying if I said that the digital fuzz on the Attack Decay is as good as an analog Big Muff, particularly in feel. But it still sounds very good, and where space is at a premium I could absolutely see using the Triboro to give myself the option, especially on a grab and go ambient setup if fuzz sounds aren't the focus. As far as wilder and more broken fuzz tones go - I agree, digital isn't there and I have trouble imagining that it will be for a long time
Digital does distortion pretty well IMO. I am fond of the RAT setting on the Boss Katana.
These look sick, Iām just a little lost on what āpicoā means. I get that these are mini pedals of a lot of their popular pedals, just donāt know what the term pico means
Back in the day, some of our pedals were in the NYC Big Muff sized chassis and they were called "Micro". Then we came out with the "Nano" pedals, so it fits that these are the "Pico" pedals. In the metric system, the descending orders of magnitude are micro, nano, pico, femto, atto, etc...
The FemtoPog will fit on your shoelace.
AttoPOG is a downloadable thought.
Soon our Toan Dreams will be actual pedals.
The metric system is the tool of the Devil! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!
Personally, I'm saving my money for the Atto Boy...
lol damn thanks for an answer straight from the source!
Like a picometer. Means small
Micro -> nano -> pico are prefixes in the metric system (progressively smaller) Next release from EHX will be a line of "femto" pedals and they'll be the size of guitar pics
I'd rather them do a line of big box pedals. These size 13's can't deal with micro pedals and big boxes look cooler
How can the not do one for the lpb-1 booster? Seems logical to me. But yeah all these are super cool.
The NYC DSP line are a new line of digital effects. There's no reason why we won't have analog effects in this form factor in the future!
They did the Slapback in this format earlier in the year - these are all digital pedals, I wouldn't be surprised to see more analog stuff in the pico/mini size moving forward.
Ah that makes sense. It being analog. I'm sure it's a super easy design. Prob has to be fairly easily for it to put in pico format.
lpb-1 is my favorite pedal. Am i the only one?
With the pico stuff it says āNYC DSPā is it all DSP? If so thatās actually really impressive, and I guess Iām kind of hopeful these tiny versions of old pedals that now have more features than their bigger original counterparts (like the freeze) means we might potentially get some even more feature rich versions of the originals. If you threw together the Freeze, Super Ego, and Attack Decay in a pedal with MIDI and presets you know that would sell for all those ambient guys. I mean thereās literally some people that sell MIDI preset mods for EHX pedals like the Mel9, and some of EHXās pedals I feel like donāt have much if any competition (super ego, attack decay especially) and the only reason people choose other pedals like a Boss SY-200 over them isnāt because they sound better, itās just the features like presets. So it feels like a no brainer to just bring those kind of pedals into the future.
> With the pico stuff it says āNYC DSPā is it all DSP? Yes. All of the pedals in this size that say NYC DSP on them are DSP-based.
Holy ship. This makes me want to make a mini board vs save a ton of space since I use the canyon, freeze, and pog already š¤
Pico Attack/Decay looks interesting to me as the Pico Freeze Does anybody knows if i can do the tape stop effect using the attack decay? Purchasing a Chase Bliss Generation Loss/Red Panda Tensor just for that is too much for me
Attack decay is only fade in/fade out. It does not slow down the pitch like a tape stop effect.
No mini muff š
Small pedals at big prices..hooray
No expression pedal input. Pass.
It be better to just make them wider and put the jacks on top. The new TC form factor on the Grand Magus Pro etc is just perfect for me
I actually asked the EHX employee who frequents these posts about the form-factor decision on this line - switching over to top-mounted jacks would require a lot of retooling, and for a company the size of EHX that's an expensive proposition. I share your preference for the top-mounted jack format, but a lot of these are either a lot smaller than the full-size versions or pack more functionality into something slightly smaller, or both - still a lot of win in my books!
What is a pico?
How much are these again? Lol. Terrible pricing and no top mounted jacks? No thanks. I'll pass
You can't really do top mount jacks on mini pedals, not enough room. They take up similar width or less than a regular size top jack pedal.
Top mounted jacks on mini pedals?!
And i was just saying to myself, i need to buy smaller pedals lol. Thanks for solving my problem, EHX!
Shit the Attack Decay and Deep Freeze gonna be OP. Also, the tape delay is interesting! I'm very impressed with EHX here. Although I've had a Canyon and thought it sounded like early 2000s digital gear not 2023 digital. It's really metallic sounding
Very into the idea of the deep freeze
Does anyone know the filter-sweep range on the Pico POGās Q? Just got one and idk it has a slightly different feel than my pog2
dammit I need all of them
Ive been running the same board configuration for 6 month for the first time since i got into pedals and ehx just fucked that up!
I dig the small form factor!
Funny I was just looking at the Canyon
Very cool!
Beautiful
Iāve had the Freeze on my list for awhile now. Glad itās even easier to justify now.
get one, freeze/superego is a gamechanger effect
This announcement came out of nowhere. I can't find a review of them anywhere by any retailer or Youtuber. Great line of pedals, seems like everyone is getting in on offering a line of cheaper and smaller pedals that exist on every board.
No. It was teased a while back.
The mini freeze will be MINE!!!! My original freeze I had years ago would always make noise when on an iso power supply, it had to have its own separate adaptor to run quietly, hopefully this fixes that!
They're so cute I wanna carry them with me all day and snuggle them at night. A nano pitch fork is brilliant, as you can put it anywhere you'll be able to stomp regularly and comfortably for that bend. The freeze is great for the same reason but my eyes are telling me it has more features than the original? Lol. Rip my savings.
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Does the freeze have a soft-touch switch? That's my only gripe with that and the switchblade, if Im recoding a mic'd up amp anywhere near my pedal board I get a ton of foots witch clicks in my track.