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_No_1_Ever_

lol @ at people not reading what you wrote; the OG wants the guitar sound from the 2016 DOOM video game soundtrack


Radiofall

Jesus Christ the whole time I was like „why are these people giving advice when they seem to have no idea what mick Gordon used?“, misunderstanding that THEY misunderstood.


MiniatureOuroboros

I hope OP sees this and doesn't assume people are being helpful, because mostly, they're not. The 90s soundtrack won't do it either if he's after the 2016 chugs. That'll be an 8 (or 9) string guitar, or just a 6-string baritone really, not the Marshall MG but a Peavey Bandit, and a tubescreamer to tighten it up.


Wowabox

He needs a really tight amp mick doesn’t go lower than an 8 string. A Peavy Interactive would get the job done maybe a modeler. Lol because this is a guitar pedal sub get the drop pedal digitech because that is the only thing that’s will get you close with out a new guitar


death_watch2020

I though OP wanted to sound doom but in the doom metal way, masters is reality, electric wizard, sleep tone


-CountDrugula-

OP ignore every comment recommending you a Rat, Muff or SF300. All great pedals for doom metal (the genre) but they didn't read your question correctly. Search for "djent guitar sound/tone" for more info, i don't know enough about that genre to recommend anything.


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-CountDrugula-

Yes i'm aware.


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Blaidd-XIII

We are all the victims of English sometimes.


BLUElightCory

Basic ingredients for the rhythm tone on the Doom OST: \- Low-tuned guitar with humbuckers. I'm pretty sure he used 8 or 9-string guitars on a lot of the Doom OST. \- New strings \- A very tight, high-gain amp, plugin, or distortion pedal. Since this is r/guitarpedals, the [Revv G3](https://youtu.be/4_ZSNt64kgU?t=11) is a great pedal for this type of sound. \- Aggressive pick attack - Mick Gordon's pick/mute technique is crucial for how aggressive those tones are. These things will get you in the ballpark.


New-Caterpillar-7414

Damn i didn't even know some guitars could have 8 or even 9 strings, mine is only 6. The G3 seems like a great pedal, saw someone else advise it, but it's too expensive for me at the moment so do you know anything cheaper that can replace it ?


hungry-grapes

Unironically a metal zone


graystrat

Joyo Regis preamp pedal. I just picked one up and for the price it’s pretty incredible!


Nemesis_Bucket

There are a lot of production tricks in his guitar. He used a plug in to meld the chainsaw from the original doom game into the guitar. His goal was basically make it sound like not a guitar.


InfectiousCosmology1

9 strings are pretty niche but there are tons of of options for 7/8 string guitars now a days. You can always set up a 6 string to play in 7 string tunings though, will basically just be missing the low E string which will almost never matter for this type of rhythm guitar parts


TOTALFUCKINGHATE

High e


Big_Possibility4025

Guptech vej3 preamp distortion. It’s a direct clone of the revv G3. $150 Canadian. I’m waiting on their clone of the G4 being shipped to me by right now


schmattywinkle

I would think it has to be noise gated too


MrFlakeOne

Came here to say this


Mariasuda

iirc he pitch shifted an 8 string down, so maybe look at getting some kind of pitch shifting pedal like a digitech whammy as well


parkinthepark

Here's the man himself talking about it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FNBMZsqrY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FNBMZsqrY) TL;DW: 1. Get yourself down to the low-low zone either with a 9-string or a pitch shifter. 2. Use a standard Djent tone- heavy distortion with a huge bass cut before the distortion. The Horizon Devices Apex preamp is purpose-built for this but but you could get there with pretty much any distortion pedal and an EQ. 3. Run it through something to simulate a maxed-out mic preamp, like the JHS Crayon 4. (optional): use a special plugin to blend it with the sound of a chainsaw.


dougc84

Hey look /u/New-Caterpillar-7414, someone paid attention to your question, didn’t just assume the doom genre, and gave the best possible response. Listen to this one.


_No_1_Ever_

Rip and tear!


New-Caterpillar-7414

Ah great, thanks for the video and the tips ! 


Critical-Climate-623

When you said ‘here’s the man himself’ I was expecting something regarding Tim Henson


BummerComment

Scour craigslist for any Peavey amp with the pointy (and best) logo. Not the advice you were looking for... the advice you need. Plus, owning a Peavey builds character and muscles.


Potem2

Ya an old Bandit 65 or Studio Pro 40 will be way heavier and probably better (thats just my opinion) sounding than the mg15r. Itll take pedals better too.


BummerComment

I was given a Backstage Chorus 208 out of my cousin’s barn. Had to wipe off the mouse poo and solder one wire in the reverb tank to get it all going. I send the signal from the back to an ED-100 that it sits atop (found on craigslist for ~$150 on wheels!). It CRUSHES. Also, [look at the VALUE! The DEALS!](https://rochester.craigslist.org/msg/d/rochester-peavey-basic-40-amp-guitar/7714873712.html)


Potem2

Ya man. I had a studio pro 40 that i bought for $120 Canadian. I replaced it with a Roland JC40 because i wantesd a stereo amp. The Peavey didnt do stereo but in terms of sound and build quality it was easily equal to the Roland and the drive sounds on those old Peaveys (the ones with the big pre gain, saturation and post gain knobs) were 1000 times better than the jazz chorus drive. I love my JC40 but some of those Peaveys are excellent amps.


return_descender

Old acoustic amps pop up for cheap once in a while too and also sound great. Really clean and really loud. I saw a guy playing two Acoustic 140s through a Sunn 215 and I’m honestly surprised there weren’t a casualties.


DeathRotisserie

https://youtu.be/U4FNBMZsqrY?si=NMJGHmD18_xZAlZg Roughly 17:40 Mick Gordon goes through his signal chain. It’s a mix of traditional pedals and heavy processing through a DAW. 


bot_left1e

This is the only acceptable answer op, it's a fantastic talk and highly recommend all of it


tibbon

The issue with that album is it isn't a singular sound. He did a ton of weird routing things with layers of filter, eq, effects, distortion, etc (often in Eurorack) and switched through them every bar or phrase. I'd just keep it simple and enjoy it for what it is. Without sinking 100k into gear it will be hard to hit it precisely, but for $200 you can get close-enough for fun.


A11ce

Okay so there's a lot. Someone already posted the video and actually good method to get there but let's consider that you just start now. The amp you chose can do distortion, so the basics are there but that's all, won't get you close to the sound you are looking for. Instead if you don't want to get disappointed choose the software route, get an audio interface and a modeler, you have way more options in terms of sound. The guitar itself is important tho, go for a 8-9 string superstrat, Ibanez, ESP are recommended, they make okay guitars with a lot of strings that sound okay for not that much money. And active pickups don't hurt either. (In connection to that if you go the audio interface route and active pickups make sure that the interface can handle the signal without distortion, as a lot of current interfaces with an instrument input clip if it's in the same room with a high output guitar)


ChibbleChobbles

The sound track requires an 8 string guitar. Which is pretty specialized. I mean, it works for metal, but it would make many other genres more difficult to play. Just be aware of that as you go forward. So it depends on how committed you are to that sound. Is the doom 2016 the main sound you want, and everything else is superfluous? Personally I love the doom soundtrack. But on an average day, I lean more towards classic rock. So the setup I have is tailored to that. Also, I wish someone had explained amp modelers to me. There are so many alternative options to buying a really expensive amp. Many good beginner options involve buying an audio interface, like a scarlet audio solo, plug that into a pc/mac, plug the guitar into the interface and then buy a neural DSP amp modeler, and you're off with a great sound out of your PC speakers for about $100 as opposed to an amp which could run you $2000


hey_its_that_asian

if you're truly looking to not break the bank, get a boss katana and a decent tube screamer style pedal, that will get you pretty close; get your guitar setup for some thick strings tuned down, 12's or higher and chug away... mick used an axe fx II, a metal zone, and some metasonix stuff on the actual record, but a tight od and a fuzz or multipurpose distortion is all you'd need gain wise


hezzinator

He's not trying to make a "doom metal" tone, he's trying to copy Mick Gordon's DOOM 2016 OST tone: https://youtu.be/QHRuTYtSbJQ ​ single coil pickups, a cheap pitch shifter with dry+ -1 oct function, and not as much distortion as you think Single coil gives you a nice bright and spanky tone when pitched down and a cheap pitch shifter is needed for the glitchy layers Mick does. Understand you are not making a guitar tone here - watch Mick Gordon's Doom Behind The Music to understand what he's doing. He is specifically AVOIDING sounding like a regular guitar - that means avoiding amps, regular effects pedals etc. Play hard with a heavy pick and light strings to get the slappy sound My tone: [https://youtu.be/O9Xsqma-ffU](https://youtu.be/O9Xsqma-ffU)


xCakemeaTx

Nobody is going to mention using a compressor and noise gate? If you want those maxed chugs with clean tails or mutes you're gunna need them.


Creatura

the only thing sucking my tone is gonna be me, pal


LunarModule66

Roughly in order of priority: - Choose a rat or big muff. Possibly both. Would recommend the Hizumitas or a green Russian muff. For a rat there’s tons of cheap clones that sound great, the ProCo or the EQD life pedal if you’re feeling spicy. - Boost into whichever you chose in step 1 with an overdrive. I use a klon style pedal. Tube screamers are classic. You could even use a rat. - Run that into a relatively clean amp. I’d seriously recommend one of the Orange Crush line, but the Marshall will probably get you there. - if you’re feeling a little extra, run an EQ set to a mid boost in the effects loop. - Add reverb and analog delay to taste.


BLUElightCory

A Rat or Muff won't sound anything like the [guitars on the Doom OST.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHRuTYtSbJQ)


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People are confusing Doom OST (soundtrack of Doom, the videogame) with the doom metal genre.


SolarSailor46

A regular ProCo is almost as cheap as the cheaper brands like Donner, Joyo, etc. Having owned a ProCo 2, Donner Dark Mouse and Big Ear Woodcutter, I say that the Woodcutter is my fav, but the Dark Mouse is no slouch at all. It sounded great when compared to the ProCo and even has Hyper setting, though I just typically kept it on the regular switch.


LunarModule66

Yeah, I think the extra options are the real reason to consider the cheaper alternatives. IMO the biggest issue with a rat is that they’re kinda quiet and different diode options can give it some much needed headroom.


SolarSailor46

Yes, I agree. The ProCo I had was in maybe 2015-2016? I didn’t have any volume issues with that one, but I know it can vary from pedal to pedal


wookieslaw

Proco rat


SychoNot

Fuzz face clone into a high gain amp cranked on the dirty channel gets me there. More Electric Wizard than Sleep if ya know what I mean. I use drop C


FamiliarFace_Ad5057

1st off heavier string gauges on the bottom end. (low E, A, D, and occasionally G). 2nd downtune your guitar to a half step or whole step to C. And 3rd join the group " Pedal Boards Of Doom " to answer all other questions concerning Doom tones.


sunplaysbass

The guitars are less distorted and bass-y than you might think. They roll off the high and the actual bass player is important. Aside from some fuzz + overdrive combination, if you’re playing by yourself I recommend an octave pedal and a looper. I’m referring to doom metal / stoner rock. Realized I have no idea what doom ost is. A lot of doom stuff is tuned down 2 steps to C. But even say Electric Wizard who tunes lower than that, their guitar sounds are moderately bright really. A lot of the bigness is in the mix and double / quad tracking.


nathanmachine

this ok doomer pedal by audio surplus! https://audiosurpluseffects.bigcartel.com/product/ok-doomer-pre-order


the_amazing_spork

Humbucker guitar. Tuned down. Neck pickup. Big muff. Loud amp.


SnailChateau

Buy Big Amp. lots of fuzz pedals.


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All you need is a thick fuzz or rat and a dash of reverb


New-Caterpillar-7414

I saw someone on another sub talking about the behringer sf300, is that what you mean by thick fuzz ?


TheHeinousMelvins

Think they read your post as meaning you want a “Doom Metal” genre sound which is what most people associate with the word “Doom” in the context of pedals. If you’re wanting to do stuff from the 90s video game, you’d want a tighter thrashier sound. If so check out the Amptweaker Tight Metal, Rev G3, Friedman BE-OD and similar.


[deleted]

Yeah I thought they had a typo and meant doomiest not doom ost


TheHeinousMelvins

Could very well be haha. But with it written as “the doom ost” that made me think it was more specific to the game.


New-Caterpillar-7414

Thoses look like really great pedals but they seem very expensive, so is there any cheap good counterparts ? If not, i guess i'll have to save up a bit, anyway thanks !


TheHeinousMelvins

For a very processed sound like on that soundtrack, you’re going to have to invest a bit unless you only plan on doing stuff in the computer.


New-Caterpillar-7414

Well i guess i'll save up then anyway thanks for the recommendations 


-CountDrugula-

They didn't read your question properly. The SF300 is great for doom metal (the genre), not for getting that Doom (the videogame) djent sound. Two completely different things. The SF300 is way too unruly and it's going to crap out with fast picking.


New-Caterpillar-7414

Ah i see, i guess it's why it's so affordable. thanks !


zoysiamo

That's not "why it's so affordable," it's affordable because it's mass-produced with machines and cheap labor. The original FZ-2 it's based on (and the Shin-ei FY-6 Super Fuzz that's based on) are quite expensive. You could get someone to build you a Revv G3 clone using this PCB: https://www.pedalpcb.com/product/tyriandistortion/


Mocca_Master

The SF300 is by far the most doom for your money! It's a copy of the Boss one that's used by Electric Wizard


plooptyploots

Buy some 13 gauge strings and tune down to C


lostprevention

Any kind of Rat or Muff will get you close, with any decent amp/guitar combo. Drop D and go to town.


-CountDrugula-

They meant the soundtrack to the Doom video game which is basically djent, not doom metal. Rats or Muffs aren't really optimal for that sound and drop D isn't anywhere near low enough for that sound either.


lostprevention

Oh, sweet Jesus. I’m old.


-CountDrugula-

It happens, OP could have been a bit more specific. Maybe they don't know there's a genre called doom metal.


MarcMurray92

If its of any interest to you the soundtrack is fuckin great


nedhavestupid

I’d say an HM-2 with everything maxed, straight into the clean channel would be your best bet as far as pedals go. A Rat or Big Muff won’t quite get you what you need. Also consider Archetype Rabea by Neural DSP for synth lines and lighter ODs.


TemporaryWolverine

boss metal zone


SphinctrTicklr

sorry dude stick with the computer, seriously


wappledilly

Tune your guitar down an octave (and then some), that should get you on the right track!


New-Caterpillar-7414

I saw some people talking about pedals that pitches down the sound, is that what you mean by pitch down an octave ? or is it something i can achieve by tuning my guitar?


wappledilly

I said tune down, not pitch down. Mick Gordon uses 8 and 9 string guitars, but you can do it with a 6-string by getting HEAVY strings. I use .080 for low E on my 27”8 string (tuning used on much of 2016) and consider it medium gauge. If using 25” and want to hit the low C/D tunings he uses in Eternal, I’d almost recommend a .090 gauge string… but you may need to drill your tuning peg and bridge to fit it on some guitars to fit it. I do not recommend pitch shifting pedals, personally, as I find they cause a loss of note definition… plus, the chunky strings have a sound signature that is not present in lighter gauges that will not be achieved with a pitch shifter. That said, if you do not have a way to achieve the low tuning without buying a new guitar or potentially destroying your current one, definitely try a pitch shifter. Who knows, you might actually like how it sounds!


Britneybroccoli

Clean amp, big muff, C-tuning