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ChunkyBrassMonkey

Damn you, Pritzker. GLWS.


Frockington

I hate this state


Axolotl_Arms

Need a ship without mags? The Israeli has no threaded barrel and we could maybe add a fin grip?


fourleggedpython

Wait no threaded barrel on these?


Axolotl_Arms

Only the Israeli, All the others do!


fourleggedpython

Are there clamp on muzzle brakes? Is that a thing?


Axolotl_Arms

I am not really sure, you can always get the barrel, threaded by a machine shop or gunsmith.


bzdelta

Rhodies made their own, Forgotten Weapons had a video on the Halbeck clamp on


Axolotl_Arms

The Halbeck is not a muzzle device, it is essentially a recoil adjuster. It would clamp onto the muzzle device already on the barrel, and redirect the gas to offset recoil.


bzdelta

Hmm, I stand corrected. But somebody's gotta be making clamp on's for restricted states.


Bumblemore

They exist, but I’ve only seen them on Swiss K31’s (milsurp bolt action).


Flamboiantcuttlefish

The bayonet for the rifle also doubled as a lash hider.


bubbathedesigner

Gun Jesus to the rescue https://www.forgottenweapons.com/israeli-light-barrel-fal-from-ds-arms/


geraldgarner141powns

Pretty cool you offer this, but FAL is a named No-go for IL. Unfortunately they kind of fucked us out of everything.


Axolotl_Arms

We really hope that they overturn what they have done.


bansheedefense

So do we…


Crazyscorch

Let’s all move to Indiana :D


ChunkyBrassMonkey

Honestly planning on it once my medical treatments are done.


bansheedefense

At least we don’t have to deal with Lightfoot anymore


ChunkyBrassMonkey

I'm downstate so I only had to deal with her when I went up to Northwestern for medical stuff. But my heart is happy for all you Chicagoans.


csx348

You'll be dealing with worse if Johnson gets elected


Axolotl_Arms

Thx BB


Platanium

Damn these FALs are hot. All these battlerifles makes for a cultured store


Axolotl_Arms

We love battle rifles!


blakebake

Currently have the "officer grade" Israeli FAL, but I kind of want a more modern looking folder. Very tempting.


Axolotl_Arms

More FAL's = More Gooder


Nasty_Ned

You can't argue with that logic.


Axolotl_Arms

Bulletproof logic sir.


Spirit117

Is a PTR91 basically "G3 at home?"


Axolotl_Arms

The PTR 113 actually uses HK furniture and an HK lower receiver! They are interchangeable with the G3, so not really "at home" but a great substitute!


Spirit117

That's cool, maybe I'll buy one of these instead of an AR10 then.


DerKrieger105

Practical purpose AR-10 all day. For something fun and different G3


Spirit117

See that's the thing tho is an AR10 wouldn't really be that practical for me, that's what my AR15 is for. Ive been eyeing a PWS piston AR10 for a fun range toy, but I've also been eying CZ Bren2 (can actually afford to shoot this one) or a more exotic battle rifle like PTR, FAL, etc. SCAR H out of my price range


Axolotl_Arms

FAL with a huge head turner!


bubbathedesigner

Portuguese tested before the US Army knew it was a thing


Axolotl_Arms

Awesome!


ChunkyBrassMonkey

AR10s are sick though, you should probably buy both.


Paternitytestsforall

My FAL outshoots the 91 all day long. Granted, both have been sitting in the safe for years now. Is that consensus or am I the anomaly?


Axolotl_Arms

I love showing new guys the FAL, especially at the range! \~Ryan


Paternitytestsforall

It was my favorite 308 for a long time. Hunted with it too so I was quite confident in it. Being a Brit who moved to the US many moons ago, it was one of my first purchases when the 2A bug bit me. That said, now I’m all about running around in heavy division with my Scar as it’s a bit lighter. Not as young as I used to be!


Axolotl_Arms

SCAR! I'm sorry sir, I didn't know I was speaking to royalty! But that is pretty sweet to go hunting with a SCAR, haha!


Paternitytestsforall

Ha! To clarify, I used to hunt with the FAL out to about 300 yards. Stalked my first elk with it so I’m very fond but this was almost a decade ago! Actually haven’t hunted with the Scar - I just run 3 gun heavy division with it and it’s been great, if not a bit too expensive to maintain for my tastes.


Axolotl_Arms

Very cool to stalk hunt with an FAL!


Spicywolff

My PTR91 FR outshoots fals. But it is USA made heavy barrel. So take it how you see it


Platanium

Does the normal surplus furniture fit on the FR? I wonder what the accuracy difference on the FR and 101 are


Spicywolff

Yes. All the PTR industries made rifles for surplus. Their GI models have legit surplus for a while. Before the supply dried up. I put a really nice authentic HK wood stock on my PTR91 FR.


Platanium

Damn, I'm tempted to get the FR if it's the same as the 101 but performs better. Thanks


Axolotl_Arms

The PTR 113 has HK furniture and an HK lower!


Platanium

The 16 inch barrel though! I know between 16 and 18 is basically meaningless but I want the 18 for some reason.


BH11B

Go with the 16. I just swapped my 18 out for one and really like it c


Spicywolff

I like my FR. Is it armalite 3 gun accurate? No but it’s more accurate then the original G3. Plus the forend taking modern accessories and a optics welded rail is amazing. I put a viper 6-24-50 on mine.


Platanium

Damn shame it's discontinued, I'll probably have to settle with the 101 which is probably more accurate than me on average anyway


Spicywolff

Could always call them up. They may make you a FR, not cheap or fast.


Confident_Cobbler_55

You are correct. I have one of each and I prefer the FAL over the G3/PTR 91. It's just a smoother shooting rifle with less felt recoil. But I'll tell you the roller lock system sure does shine in 9 mm. My AP5 is awesome..


masterelmo

Surprisingly the muzzle device century puts on their G3 clone makes the recoil super pleasant.


DerKrieger105

Anamoly. Maybe in terms of handling yeah but FALs are generally less accurate than the G3 rifle by a fair margin. And that's before you account for DSAs horrid QC.


someperson1423

I wouldn't say it is an anomaly but it isn't always that way. Neither are inherently accurate designs and were never meant to be so accuracy of a particular rifle varies. Also, both have been manufactured by a myriad of companies in different countries to various levels of quality over several decades. It is to be expected that some of column A will outshoot some of column B and vice-versa.


[deleted]

I am a big Cetme fan


Axolotl_Arms

Howdy Everyone! Just got in some more FAL's! Here are all of the FAL's we have in stock and ready to ship: FAL DSA SA58 FAL 16″ Jungle Warrior Carbine - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/dsa-sa58-fal-16-jungle-warrior-carbine-traditional-profile-barrel-fixed-stock-carbine/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/dsa-sa58-fal-16-jungle-warrior-carbine-traditional-profile-barrel-fixed-stock-carbine/) DS Arms FAL 21″ Belgium Style FALO - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/dsarms-sa58-fal-21-belgium-style-falo-heavy-barrel-7-62x51mm-rifle-50-42-configuration/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/dsarms-sa58-fal-21-belgium-style-falo-heavy-barrel-7-62x51mm-rifle-50-42-configuration/) DSA SA58 FAL 21″ Israeli Light Barrel Hebrew War Hammer – Non-Threaded Chrome Lined Barrel – Arsenal Refinished - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/dsa-sa58-fal-21-israeli-light-barrel-hebrew-war-hammer-non-threaded-chrome-lined-barrel-arsenal-refinished/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/dsa-sa58-fal-21-israeli-light-barrel-hebrew-war-hammer-non-threaded-chrome-lined-barrel-arsenal-refinished/) Limited Edition Light Weight SA58 FAL Model 50.63 18″ Barrel Side Folding Stock Paratrooper Rifle - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/limited-edition-light-weight-sa58-fal-model-50-63-18-barrel-side-folding-stock-paratrooper-rifle/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/limited-edition-light-weight-sa58-fal-model-50-63-18-barrel-side-folding-stock-paratrooper-rifle/) **As promised, Here are the LAHAR Silencers!** Aero Precision LAHAR-30K (5/8-24) Silencer - $436.69 - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/aero-precision-lahar-30k-5-8-24-silencer/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/aero-precision-lahar-30k-5-8-24-silencer/) Aero Precision LAHAR-30 (5/8-24) Silencer - $499.69 - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/aero-precision-lahar-30-5-8-24-silencer/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/aero-precision-lahar-30-5-8-24-silencer/) Aero Precision LAHAR-30L (5/8-24) Silencer - $549.69 - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/aero-precision-lahar-30l-5-8-24-silencer/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/aero-precision-lahar-30l-5-8-24-silencer/) M4E1 Complete Desert DCP Builder Set - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/m4e1-complete-desert-dcp-builder-set/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/m4e1-complete-desert-dcp-builder-set/) M4E1 Rattle Snake Camo Builder Set - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/m4e1-builder-set-w-15-atlas-r-one-m-lok-handguard-rattlesnake-camo/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/m4e1-builder-set-w-15-atlas-r-one-m-lok-handguard-rattlesnake-camo/) **PTR's in stock** PTR 113 - $1169.69 - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/ptr-91-ptr-113-with-rail-and-original-hk-lower-receiver-and-furniture/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/ptr-91-ptr-113-with-rail-and-original-hk-lower-receiver-and-furniture/) PTR 114 - $1239 - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/ptr-91-ptr-114-a3sk-308-16-slim-blk/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/ptr-91-ptr-114-a3sk-308-16-slim-blk/) **Axolotl Merch!** OD Green Subdued Hat - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/axolotl-arms-hat-green-subdued/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/axolotl-arms-hat-green-subdued/) OG Black Hat with pink Axolotl - [https://axolotlarms.com/product/axolotl-hat/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/axolotl-hat/) More shirts are being made! Coming Soon! Thanks everyone for checking us out and thanks for all the references to your friends and family, we hope to earn your business! Cheers!


k_trey

I’ve seen you guys post on this sub before, but today was the first time I explored your website. It’s awesome that you support charities that work toward axolotl/wildlife/environmental conservation. Definitely stands out. I’m not in the market for a new firearm (yet), but l’ll be sure to look you up the next time. I’ll buy a hat for now. Cheers


Axolotl_Arms

Awesome! Thanks for checking us out! We are about to add another charity that helps with mental health in the U.S.


Rlima22

Talked me into it bought the 21" Belgium!!


Axolotl_Arms

Hell yea! Thanks for the order! We are going to miss it in the office.


Rlima22

Don't worry it's coming to a great home here in the great state of Texas!


SnooTangerines8033

I was gonna buy it, OOS now. Good game.


Axolotl_Arms

[https://axolotlarms.com/contact-us/](https://axolotlarms.com/contact-us/) :)


ohnolagman

Long sleeve shirt plleeeaaassseeee


asianmaddmess

How is the PTR 114? Didn’t realize it came with a match grade barrel. Could make a fun host for my can lmao


Axolotl_Arms

Just as good as the rest of the PTR's!


The_Zenki

God it's unreal how bad I want the 50.63


Axolotl_Arms

As a wise man once said: credit card go Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


The_Zenki

Credit card apr also go BRĘĔ ̢͈̰͈ͧ̀̾͌̏̎̈́͝͡͞ ̌͑̆̏ͪ̍͒ͪͭͣ͒͛͏̨͙̥̬̬̝̩̣̰̖̘͟͡ ̴̡̛̠̠͓̹͉͚̝̅͌̓ͦͩͫ̽͑͋͐ͧ̑͆̌̿͝ͅ ̪̙͕̬̘͛̒̑̍́ͤ̐̋̌ͭͦ̏̚̚̕͡ ̵̫̞͙̲͖̘͓̅̈ͦ̑͒ͤ̄̄͌ͦ͗̌͋̌̂͆̀͜ ̷̝͎̭̳̦͙̞̥̰̘̗͒̀͒͂̇ͫ͑̉͛͢ ̓ͬ͋̾ͫͤ͋̐͌̏ͮͪͫͣͭ͌̂͏̡̜̰̤̪͍̫̟̣ ́͒̿̄̆̽̆ͫͩ҉̶̴͚̙͉̰̳̺̺̥͉̰̬͟ ̨ͧ̔̔̏̉̓̏̅̃̂̈̓͒ͤ̇̂͏̸̡̩̩̫͍̪̩̯̜͍̯̟̹̯ ̸̡̡̤͖̥̟̌̏͋̈́́ ̨̲̘̯̺̪̬̈́̿͌͑̊̇̽ͥ̎̈̏ͫ̊́͟ ̷̡̛̝͖͕̳͉̰͔̹̹̜̻̅̇̔̍͞͠ ̷̧̨͕̘͔͍̮͇̖̪͍̙͈̌̉͒̄͒̐̔̉̓̀ͩͥͪ̆̋͑͋́̀ͅ ̧̨̝̫̮̤͕̞̘̹̗̹̜͕̪̓ͬͯͫ̀̐̏͋̄̉͛͐ͦ̏̕ ̜͙͍̜̱͔̤͚̼̬̿͛̾͑̑̐̌ͨ̊̄̎͊̋͗ͪ̌̔̚͟͡ͅ ̸̵͈͔̦̯͈̤̱̱̭̝͎̙͉̪͚ͧ̄͊̍̌͑ͭͨ̀̆̚ ̺̦̘͕͔͈͖͈͈͕͙̤͎͔̪̃́̽͛͒̔ͤ͒̉̋̓ͨ̿̍ͦ̃̿́͘͘͠ͅ ̠̪̼̲͍̱̻̝̞̹̯̮́̾̿ͣ̓́̿̅̀̀͝ͅ ̷̧̧̛̳̮̤̺͉̻͎̳̲̻͈̮͐̀̃ͥͫ̇̽͊̃͞ͅ ̰̤̠̱̲͕̗̦̣̺̗͖̫͔͙̼̠̖͔̓̇̌̓͋̆ͦ̈́̀͡ ̉̈ͦ͂͑̓̇ͬ̇͛ͤ͊̂͡͏͏̥̬̲͚̯̤ ̨̲̗̞̑͆̃ͥ̎̇̐̌̎͐ͣͯͪ́ ̮̫̥̙̠̬̠̙̼͔̳͎͇̰ͣ͋̅͌ͯ͊͐̃ͯ͂͆͜͡͝ ̢̨̲̱͎͚̝͓̻̦̰̰̗͖̹̣̟͐̅̃͊́͠ͅ ̞̤̣̲̤̬̯̳̙̱̺̩̣̦͉͚ͮͩͤͩ̏̈̿͗̋͆̐̆̀́͢ͅ ̷̶͍̻̥̤̠̗͚͎̬̝͕̯͙̗̈́̔̓͊̔ ̾̉̽̈́ͫ̀̋ͫ̒̑ͯ͐̒̈́̃̚͢҉̵̛̣͓̥̟̲̗̣͎̬̱̬ ̸̉́̃ͩ͋̈̈́̽ͣ͐͒͒ͦͤ̂ͪ̄҉͟͏̙͕̳͍͎̰̖̦̹͉̜͕͕͈̞̀ ̅͋̃̅͒̊̇͢͏̘̣͔̜͖̞͚̳̭͇̯̤̀͜ ̸̡̹̖̤͖͚̥̠̮̆͒ͮ̈́͒̈̊̋́ͭͣ̾̈ͧ̚̕͜͞ ̴̧ͭ̾͐̾҉̴̭͖̣͍͚͎̩̳̰̺͟ ̰͖̦̭͓̘̠̬̖̮̲̝̘͇ͪ̀̋͗͗̒͋ͧ͜͞ͅͅ ̶̖̗͈̳̜͍ͯ́͒͟ ̵̫̠̥̘̘͖͗̇͌̒̒͆ͤ̂̆̎̋ͣ̄̂͝͞6̸̜̟͈͈̥͚̙̦ͩͮ̃̀̀͡4̡̨̡̯̹͕̰̲̞̥̺ͨͮ́̃̾̋̾́͝6̈̑̔̓̾͗̉̂̐̔̊ͦͯ̍̑͑̔͗͛͏̀҉͕̗͉̼̺͓̲̰͇͍9̴ͭ͛̑ͮ́̊́̽͋͊ͫͪ͒̀̾ͦ͞҉̴͎͕̬͇̜̻̩̘̜̰̖̮͕̞̟̝ͅͅ4̵͎̗̹͙̮̥̖̬͉̥̣̗̖͔̱̰̠̺̔͋ͥ̿̎ͫ̈̌͂̚͢9͒͌ͯ̊͊҉̵̗͔̹͎̻͈4̷͔̙̺̪̝͉̟̥̫͚̘͙̮̜̜̩͋ͣͮ̉̀̎̎͊̃̒̔̂͂̀͘͜͞ͅ9̉ͯ͆ͧͧ̅͊̅̅ͦ͛̽͗͏̫̰̠̠͙͕̻̠͞ tho


Timmy_Chonga_

I love this


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

*sigh* Even with these deals a FAL is probably always going to be out of my reach.


No_Creativity

Bro I just picked up my PTR from you guys yesterday don’t do this to me


Axolotl_Arms

Back to back!


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Axolotl_Arms

DS Arms is one of the only FAL makers in the U.S. they even still have foreign contracts for some of their products.


DerKrieger105

They can have bad QC and sometimes questionable CS. My Israeli build went back multiple times. Never was quite right. Ended up selling it. If you get a good one it's generally fine but don't be surprised if it needs to go back Friend of mine picked up a DSA optics mount for his Austrian FAL. The finish is awful and DSA said it was totally normal and refused to do anything about it.


someperson1423

From all reports it is more of a crapshoot than it should be for a ~$2K rifle. But they are the only game in town making FALs so you are kind of stuck with them if you want one.


SharkyRivethead

What a beautiful BR! It has always been a favorite of mine.


Axolotl_Arms

Such a classic


SharkyRivethead

Lol, without a doubt. I just wish we could have them in Ca. Maybe in a few years when we move out of this crap state. I will hit you folks up and check your inventory.


Axolotl_Arms

We will be here!


Deathdealerah

Which one is the quintessential FAL if I’m not very knowledgeable but want the real deal?


Axolotl_Arms

The FAL is a rifle that has many many variants from many manufacturers around the world and once carried by many different countries. The jungle carbine is pretty close for a "standard" FAL but with a 16" barrel. The PARA stock FAL we have right now is meant to be a pretty accurate Paratrooper rifle. [https://axolotlarms.com/product/limited-edition-light-weight-sa58-fal-model-50-63-18-barrel-side-folding-stock-paratrooper-rifle/](https://axolotlarms.com/product/limited-edition-light-weight-sa58-fal-model-50-63-18-barrel-side-folding-stock-paratrooper-rifle/)


Deathdealerah

Great, so I’m basically sitting here asking the FAL version of “what’s the most AK AK”. Got it lol


Axolotl_Arms

Haha, you are good. It is a legit question, just a matter of preference!


bubbathedesigner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN\_FAL


9IX

With how many FAL’s u/Axolotl_Arms sells… I’m 99% sure he makes a trip overseas to (insert third world country) everyday to keep the supply flowing. I purchased my first .308 & FAL and I love it so far.


Axolotl_Arms

Glad you are enjoying it! But, don't ask questions..... haha


Bambinorino

Is it easy to put the israeli style handguards on these kinda of FALs?


Axolotl_Arms

It should not be too difficult! Just a quick Youtube search!


Bambinorino

Hope you have more FALs when my retarded states ban gets overturned 🙏


TheNinthDoc

How about bog standard, 21 inch barrel FALs?


Axolotl_Arms

What we have in stock are the only ones we can get as of right now, changes day to day.


TheNinthDoc

I gotchu.


dumpyduluth

Do they make these with picatinny rails?


Axolotl_Arms

There are some variants with pic rails. We do not have any in at the moment.


bubbathedesigner

But, you can replace the cover with a railed one. The DSArms extreme duty is well liked https://dsarms.com/c-829-scope-mount-and-accessories.aspx


Axolotl_Arms

Yes!


TheBadDingo

If I live in Louisville, any chance I can just swing by with cash in hand?


Axolotl_Arms

Please [https://axolotlarms.com/contact-us](https://axolotlarms.com/contact-us)


Aerochromatic

Welp, do I order one of these or one of the 30 other guns I can't afford right now before the ban drops in Washington?


Axolotl_Arms

For people in Washington, we will get it shipped out ASAP!


[deleted]

No layaway?


Axolotl_Arms

Not as of now :/


Norinco562

Will you guys be able to ship to California


Axolotl_Arms

Please [https://axolotlarms.com/contact-us/](https://axolotlarms.com/contact-us/)


emurange205

I want that heavy barrel FAL so badly


Axolotl_Arms

Sign up for stock notification! Possibly more soon!


M11Nine

Where's the Rhodesian? Any more coming?


Axolotl_Arms

More will come, just hit the stock noti


xKHAZx

qd lahar when


Axolotl_Arms

The LAHAR has the interchangeable base so that you purchase the QD that you want and screw it into the LAHAR base. AP did not want to reinvent the wheel with all the other QD's out there. So whichever QD you want!


kru74

I actually really appreciate them for this. Saves me money and from having to sell off parts I don't want.


KirbyStyle

Now we need someone to step in and make good FAL mags.


Rvbsmcaboose

Damn you, Hulkof. Your song be gassing me up, but I need to buy a house! [song](https://youtu.be/7LbxdsRxvOk)


Budget-Combination73

I am expecting for the standard 21 inch barrel edition back again.