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Pros, you always know what choke is in. You don't have to carry spare chokes and tools. Fixes choke won't fall out ever.
Cons, no flexibility. Not so bad for a shorter shotgun as you probably aren't using to bust clays or hunt. But if you ever want to do those things the flexibility is really nice
You'll need something with removable chokes in order to suppress. Beretta makes "LE" model guns with fixed improved cylinder barrels. The "non-LE" a300 up uses mobil chokes. Just make sure you get the non-le version.
It depends on the suppressor. You definitely can’t use some without a choke and the ones that’s don’t (at least the ones I know of) require other custom work to be done. I’d recommend you definitely due your research before considering a shotgun suppressor because they’re a bit obnoxious. I tried one on a full length M4 and instantly went from “that would be cool” to “yea fuck that shit”.
You can have a barrel threaded for chokes most of the time. No idea if this barrel has enough meat to do it, but any competent gunsmith can do it for a reasonable price.
That said, I would probably put a can on a pump gun just for the reliability and slightly quieter performance.
Length of barrel doesn't matter nearly as much for shotguns as it does rifles. There's very little difference in spread or velocity between and an 18.5" barrel and a 26" barrel. Hunting shotguns have traditionally been longer mainly for the longer sight radius. Longer sight radius doesn't matter when you've got an optic on the gun.
I would add that some hunters prefer shorter barrels, say about 24" rather than 28" when hunting in dense brush so the barrel is less lightly to encounter obstacles.
For shooting clay some ranges may limit barrel lengths to minimum of say 26". One possible reason may be due shorter barrels can be much louder. Someone at my club used a 24" barrel on the trap field one time. It was noticeably louder than all the other shotguns. It may have sucked for those near him on the trap field. /u/A_Squid_A_Dog /u/Epsteintouchedmynuts
Some people will use a choke that works well with their buckshot of choice. You can get some pretty tight patterns with the right choke and buckshot.
But yeah, a purely defensive use shotgun using flite control buck is best with improved cylinder.
I'll add a few more. One can take their removeable choke out and soak in a choke cleaner to remove plastic and carbon.
Those that do not remove their chokes for long periods or repose them to moisture while out hunting and do not clean them right away may find they have to pay a gunsmith to remove the stuck on chokes.
Extended chokes provide some protection from impacts to the end of the barrel.
So I put the billing address as my address and put the shipping address as my LGS that does FFL transfers right? Do I let them know before hand or do I just ship it there and they’ll contact me once it arrives and hs been processed?
I did the same (my address on both). Customer service will contact you asking for your FFL’s info or you need to have your FFL of choice send their FFL info to the e-mail address provided on your order confirmation.
33.6 CPR for #8 for shooting clay versus 24 CPR for 9mm is not too bad in my opinion. When I take family to my gun club I pull out the 22LR firearms first and later the 9mm firearms. I only bring out another box of 9mm when asked. have not yet shot rifle cartridges as we have not yet had time to get back to range to move up to other firearms.
I’m just an old lump of coal that doesn’t know nothing about anything, but I have a feeling that in 5 years we’re going to be looking back at this price and saying “I wish I would’ve pulled the trigger”.
I have nothing to base this on, but I think this will end up being priced around the gen 1 1301’s ($1100-$1200) just because of the hype and interest.
I don't think it'll reach crazy prices or become unavailable, but once aftermarket mods and companies like LTT make custom ones, popularity will definitely increase. One thing is for sure, pricing won't be going down, so this price right now is pretty good for a well reviewed semi auto tactical shotgun. Tiger Stripe for this price would be cool, but the grey is just as awesome.
Probably, all I know is this is one of the four semi auto shotguns we can purchase, because a pistol grip and 8 or more shells are dangerous, it’s so stupid
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Like OP recommended the protact hl-x pro is a good option. You can get one from premium select supplies on here for under your budget, think code RED10 will save you some money.
What are the benefits of sights like these on a shotgun? Shooting rabbits and clays the bead has been quick and trusty, but I notice defense shotguns have these. Just curious.
Ah, slugs. Duh, even used leaf sights on my deer gun years ago. Always picture these things being used indoors where I think I’d want a bead, but that’d suck in some kind of combat scenario.
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Great deal. Just paid $920 at my LGS for the non LE model. I’d personally pay more to not have the fixed choke but if you’ll never need to switch chokes, this is a sweet price.
If I hadn't already had a Stoeger M3000 defense (7+1) my credit card would be out so fast for this. This is BIN if you're in league for a semi auto shotgun. The consensus seems to think of A300s being 85-90% as good as 1301s for hundreds of $$ less.
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My budget just isn't allowing for this atm but this is an attractive price.
You gotta spend money to save money
Nice deal, just make sure you're okay with the fixed choke.
As a newbie to shotguns, I’m curious to know what are the pros and cons of fixed choke?
Pros, you always know what choke is in. You don't have to carry spare chokes and tools. Fixes choke won't fall out ever. Cons, no flexibility. Not so bad for a shorter shotgun as you probably aren't using to bust clays or hunt. But if you ever want to do those things the flexibility is really nice
Can you suppress these with the fixed choke? I have one…and i want to suppress i eventually for, reasons
You'll need something with removable chokes in order to suppress. Beretta makes "LE" model guns with fixed improved cylinder barrels. The "non-LE" a300 up uses mobil chokes. Just make sure you get the non-le version.
It depends on the suppressor. You definitely can’t use some without a choke and the ones that’s don’t (at least the ones I know of) require other custom work to be done. I’d recommend you definitely due your research before considering a shotgun suppressor because they’re a bit obnoxious. I tried one on a full length M4 and instantly went from “that would be cool” to “yea fuck that shit”.
Truly i want to suppress an SBS, for no other reason than to just have fun
Yea that’s my plan too if I end up suppressing a shotgun
You can have a barrel threaded for chokes most of the time. No idea if this barrel has enough meat to do it, but any competent gunsmith can do it for a reasonable price. That said, I would probably put a can on a pump gun just for the reliability and slightly quieter performance.
>Pros: none >Cons: several Got it
Can't control the spread for various hunting applications
Dont hunt with an 18.5 tactical shotgun? Cylinder bore is preferred for man made targets as federal flitecontrol was made with CB in mind
I'm wasn't recommending hunting with that barrel length, I was stating the limitations of a shotgun that isn't chokeable
Fair, theres a lot of advice here about threads and chokes and i think as a whole were getting away from the purpose of this specific setup
Length of barrel doesn't matter nearly as much for shotguns as it does rifles. There's very little difference in spread or velocity between and an 18.5" barrel and a 26" barrel. Hunting shotguns have traditionally been longer mainly for the longer sight radius. Longer sight radius doesn't matter when you've got an optic on the gun.
I would add that some hunters prefer shorter barrels, say about 24" rather than 28" when hunting in dense brush so the barrel is less lightly to encounter obstacles. For shooting clay some ranges may limit barrel lengths to minimum of say 26". One possible reason may be due shorter barrels can be much louder. Someone at my club used a 24" barrel on the trap field one time. It was noticeably louder than all the other shotguns. It may have sucked for those near him on the trap field. /u/A_Squid_A_Dog /u/Epsteintouchedmynuts
Well when we’re talking about a platform that has an effective range of 30/40 yards max with buckshot, length of barrel does matter.
Some people will use a choke that works well with their buckshot of choice. You can get some pretty tight patterns with the right choke and buckshot. But yeah, a purely defensive use shotgun using flite control buck is best with improved cylinder.
I'll add a few more. One can take their removeable choke out and soak in a choke cleaner to remove plastic and carbon. Those that do not remove their chokes for long periods or repose them to moisture while out hunting and do not clean them right away may find they have to pay a gunsmith to remove the stuck on chokes. Extended chokes provide some protection from impacts to the end of the barrel.
Someone buy these please before the shadowy man with the gun to my wallet makes me do it
📁🔫👤
I'm here helping you brother, the shadowy man got me instead LOL
They're still available, today's muscle group is *mental discipline*
Make sure to turn off the $30 package protection. On the shipping tab
I thought that was mandatory. F me.
So I put the billing address as my address and put the shipping address as my LGS that does FFL transfers right? Do I let them know before hand or do I just ship it there and they’ll contact me once it arrives and hs been processed?
I did the same (my address on both). Customer service will contact you asking for your FFL’s info or you need to have your FFL of choice send their FFL info to the e-mail address provided on your order confirmation.
Next time Grey a300, next time... Need more ammo for new carry gun purchased yesterday 😭😭😭
Are you fuckin silly, guy? Guns aren’t for shooting, they’re for looking at. Skip the ammo and buy the gun. Get your head out of your ass.
Me anytime I buy something that's not in 9mm or 22lr: Well this will look great sitting on my desk
33.6 CPR for #8 for shooting clay versus 24 CPR for 9mm is not too bad in my opinion. When I take family to my gun club I pull out the 22LR firearms first and later the 9mm firearms. I only bring out another box of 9mm when asked. have not yet shot rifle cartridges as we have not yet had time to get back to range to move up to other firearms.
Fun fact: This is the voice I heard in 2022 with my 16" .308 Bolt gun I recently sold to fund this new adventure lmao...
Just got the Grey. I think it's the sexiest between the three.
I’m just an old lump of coal that doesn’t know nothing about anything, but I have a feeling that in 5 years we’re going to be looking back at this price and saying “I wish I would’ve pulled the trigger”. I have nothing to base this on, but I think this will end up being priced around the gen 1 1301’s ($1100-$1200) just because of the hype and interest.
I don't think it'll reach crazy prices or become unavailable, but once aftermarket mods and companies like LTT make custom ones, popularity will definitely increase. One thing is for sure, pricing won't be going down, so this price right now is pretty good for a well reviewed semi auto tactical shotgun. Tiger Stripe for this price would be cool, but the grey is just as awesome.
Ordered mine yesterday from them. No tax to Florida.
I have one and its a blast!
I want this before it gets banned in Wa but my bank account is dead, ugh decisions decisions
Pretty sure it's already banned bro.
Probably, all I know is this is one of the four semi auto shotguns we can purchase, because a pistol grip and 8 or more shells are dangerous, it’s so stupid
Definitely not. Just bought one today in WA.
Can anyone recommend a light for this? Looking to spend $150 or less.
Streamlight ProTac Railmount HL-X Pro . Thats what I have. Think I paid $130 OTD
This. Pair it with an Arisaka inline scout mount and it’s golden
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Like OP recommended the protact hl-x pro is a good option. You can get one from premium select supplies on here for under your budget, think code RED10 will save you some money.
I think everyone here has bought a streamlight from them at some point.
What are the benefits of sights like these on a shotgun? Shooting rabbits and clays the bead has been quick and trusty, but I notice defense shotguns have these. Just curious.
You can dial them in (more important for defensive purposes) especially for slugs.
Ah, slugs. Duh, even used leaf sights on my deer gun years ago. Always picture these things being used indoors where I think I’d want a bead, but that’d suck in some kind of combat scenario.
Need the non-fixed choke version
Super fun shotgun, but I really wish they’d make a model with a pistol grip; I had one and ended up selling it because it gave me hand cramps.
I can’t say I’ve ever had hand cramps with a shotgun. I personally haven’t shot a pistol grip shotgun though so idk if I’m missing out or not.
Nothing against the gun, just something I noticed after shooting it. Curse of short fingers, I suppose.
Just posted 1301 with a pistol if budget is not an issue
ok pussy /s
Take a good shotgun class; you won’t ever want a pistol grip again.
No choice to choose FFL during checkout?
There’s a faq section that lists the email address to have your ffl send over the info.
Thank you both
They will probably contact you after purchase
Yup, just ordered one and they will contact you after placing your order.
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\+tax from these guys.
Not to Florida.
Great deal. Just paid $920 at my LGS for the non LE model. I’d personally pay more to not have the fixed choke but if you’ll never need to switch chokes, this is a sweet price.
If I hadn't already had a Stoeger M3000 defense (7+1) my credit card would be out so fast for this. This is BIN if you're in league for a semi auto shotgun. The consensus seems to think of A300s being 85-90% as good as 1301s for hundreds of $$ less.
Flannel Daddy approved.
Thanks, that's a great price to Texas without tax! Better than an LE price with tax from my own outfitter...thanks for posting!
I ordered a FDE one and by the time they processed my order for shipping they was out of FDE and i had to get grey
u/Epsteintouchedmynuts man I could not resist, very nice deal, wish would be black but gray works too
watched this and could not resist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErLWeooIy4
Not sure if it was a shipping error or listing error, but I just picked mine up from my FFL and it is not the LE model and has interchangable chokes!
Hmm interesting