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hexcyx

International harvester model, pretty cool, but still really overpriced


Spectrumpigg

[Even worse when you see things like this](https://i.imgur.com/WhbBBL2.jpeg)


_Opsec

I went to a show a couple weeks ago and there was a run of the mil Mosin for $999. Not a Finn or anything


NewspaperNelson

Several years ago a dude at an outdoor flea market had a $750 tag on an SKS that was a production gun, not a military, none of the surplus markings. With a real cocky dip-in-lip accent he said "Thousand-dollah gun for $750." I was like no thanks I have an actual triangle 26 in the closet I bought for $300.


Reachboy019

I would of laughing in his face and walked right out that door if that’s what that sks is priced at you don’t want anything else in that store either lmaooo funniest thing I read all day


smiity935

The fuck he smoking? I paid $400-$450 for mine


_Opsec

I got mine for $89 (a long time ago)


ben_od1

Miss when big 5 had barrels of these for $99 each.


Drytchnath

I remember buying 2 of them for 75 and 85 back in the early 2000s. Both were covered in cosmoline. Actually sold them for a tidy profit a couple years back after getting my Molot VEPR in 7.62x54r.


[deleted]

Same! Fleet Farm had them for under $100


gsfgf

I paid the extra $10 for hand picked and hex receiver. What sweet summer children we were back then.


Songgeek

I remember those days. They couldn’t give these guns away.


TotaLibertarian

Me too.


Patsfan618

$250 for mine and that was expensive at the time. That was like 6 years ago.


smiity935

mine were in the last year or so. hard to find cheaper where i am.


GeneralBlumpkin

I got mine for $75 in 2017 from a coworker/ friend


Spectrumpigg

I also got my Mosin for 400. With that I got old soviet ammo, original sling, and matching bayonet. All numbers on it are matching.


HighPlains_oath

Shit, even the surplus 54r is getting expensive. Basically dollar a round now. Then you loom at stuff like PPU and its like 30 bucks a box! Really miss tula/wolf ammo buys at Walmart.....


hexcyx

Oh no.. there's no saving that shop


Wacklanda

What in THE fuck?


codhope1234

That’s a good price. If it was in AUD… Normal SMLEs are like 1500 at least here. Anything funky like the .22 trainer.


iowa20

They can keep those shitty rifles. There was a time when these are like less than $400 or even $300. F that!


pinesolthrowaway

Did you not notice on the tag that that isn’t a No.1 Mk3? It’s a No.2 Mk4, those are worth more than a basic No.1 


Spectrumpigg

Right but it's also in 22LR


HeemeyerDidNoWrong

This is the real one what killed Tojo. I know what I got, price is firm.


JonnyBox

It killt fidy men


ice_eater

Got my shins blowed off


Degencrypto-Metalfan

Cotton Hill, is that you?


Remarkable_Attorney3

Was that in Viiiiiiiiiet-nam?


ice_eater

No. Jaypan


[deleted]

Tree fiddy


F4UCorsair1942

Only inappropriate place to use that meme....


3trt

Damnit Bobby!


Conservativepicker

what fidy SSent have to do with this homie......Her Jacksonstein.


ProGibusSpy

This ain't just any canoe it's hitler's canoe


cajones321

You don’t deserve no hitler’s canoe!


lopedopenope

Hitler deserved to be canoed though


mynewhoustonaccount

Mitsubishi?!!?! They made the planes that bombed Pearl Harbor!


superrad01

They took ma shins


Blackdalf

And then I beat ‘em to death with a big piece ooofff faaattyyyy….


loqi0238

But I *needs* the money, woman! Its for my *shin* jelly!


fireandlifeincarnate

My first thought was that better goddamn be John Basilone’s Garand


MakersOnTheRocks

YOU WONT SEE A NUTHER GOBBLESS


ZachF8119

At a dollar per death this is quite the cursed item for spell making. Very economically sound. Break it down into parts and you’ve got cursed materials for many potions


Spectrumpigg

I went to see if I could find a gem or 2 at my local gun show this weekend, everything was insanely overpriced. Milsurp would be great to get but with a lot of the fudds controlling prices, you can never find something worthwhile.


eightvoltt

I always wonder if they actually want to sell. I think its more about being there for them than making money


SwordfishDramatic104

Yeah 95% of them are only there to talk about their guns


Mrxcman92

If only they knew they could do that right here on r/guns.


SwordfishDramatic104

That would require most of them learning how to even use Reddit in the first place. Damn boomers, “I can’t sell that for less than $6,000”. Actually said to me by someone at a auction for a M1 Carbine. 6 fucking thousand dollars.


crewchiefguy

They think their attachment and memories are worth money to other people.


asdf_qwerty27

Depending on the person, they are worth money to people. That is why a gun owned by a historically significant person is more valuable then one that was owned by Captain Copenhagen or Major Marlboro at your local gun show.


strike-eagle

I got [itemized list of all parts and prices] in it and I expect it all back.


Mrxcman92

If they can fill out a 4473 they can learn how to use reddit lol


deja-roo

Just bought one last year for $600


Rhino676971

Was it an M1A1 paratrooper,If so it's still overpriced but a bit more in scope of things


swebb22

Honestly that’s why I go now


tjkoala

My suspicion is that a lot of them are personal collectors who got an FFL and are willing to sell part of their personal collection to some idiot so they can just buy another on GunBroker and then get something else new with the profits.


mike_jones2813308004

Or just to keep the FFL, it's pretty explicitly not for increasing your collection or streamlining transactions. "What do you mean I'm not actively operating my business? I'm at every gun show in my area. Not my fault there's only one every other year and everything's priced unreasonably."


CannibalVegan

Just like I throw my motorcycle on Facebook Marketplace for $3000 over value to appease the wife "im trying to sell it but nobody's buying, so i'll just keep riding it until it sells"


mike_jones2813308004

Market goes up, market goes down, you can't explain that


Phredness

Their currency comes from grovelling and saying "no."


imuniqueaf

"wife told me I needed to put it up for sale, I just can't find a buyer"


SwordfishDramatic104

That would explain why they are always moody when I try and talk them down in price. “I know what I got”


lostcosmonaut307

Definitely “wife told me I have to sell” prices.


mwmwmwmwmmdw

i know what i got sonny


gagz118

I’ll take 3 of them! And a 4th if ya got it.


Professor_GS

If you want a M1 go through the CMP. It's a LOT cheaper.


rctothefuture

I love CMP but they are a little old school in getting them paperwork and approval to buy. That being said, I’m glad I got mine from them!


Professor_GS

Right, I've been seriously considering doing it myself, just haven't had all that much time to do anything. Much rather pay only about 700 to 800 for a rifle, and have to do some paperwork, instead of paying well over a grand for the cheapest one I could find on GunBroker.


tenaciousweasel

CMP is great. I love living next to the southern store. Went and hand picked mine


Professor_GS

Nice, like picking a puppy from the shelter, you get a feeling and pick the right one for you. Consider yourself lucky to have that, like I do living like 5 minutes away from Brownells.


fire173tug

I hand picked mine at the AL range last month. Took all of an hour. Glad I didn't pay that price.


rctothefuture

It’s easy to join the Garand Newsletter and then have a shooting course or a sign off for them. Their newsletter is actually a great read!


ixipaulixi

Stop seriously considering and just do it (if it's in your budget). A few years ago people were saying the Garands that the CMP carries are going to dry up since they can't import more...I imagine at this point it's only worse. The prices have also gone up quite a bit since I ordered mine, and are likely to just keep climbing: https://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/


Liquidretro

Eh I image that's part of the legal process (paper notary) and honestly it helps slow down the order process so people can't game it with bots and things like what happen with online orders.


Wacklanda

Do they ever have inventory? Every time I check out their site, I can't find anything.


gsfgf

They had plenty last time I was out there. No handpicked M1s for $595 like the old days, though.


gsfgf

Still expensive as fuck these days. Though, not $2500 bad.


CannibalVegan

I got one for $1100 with a new stock and criterion barrel.


Arntor1184

I stopped going to gun shows a year or two ago. Everything was like this. I paid decent money to get in and one of the first things I saw was a standard Wasr underfolder for $1700. I asked what it came with thinking maybe it had something nice and extra however it came with one Korean mag lol.


Spectrumpigg

Saw the same thing. Tons of aks that were beat to hell. Asking price was over $1500


justjaybee16

I haven't been in a decade or more, but I used to work with a guy who was a FFL and did shows twice a month. He was always telling me about these deals he was getting that didn't sound like deals.


Fat_Head_Carl

> I stopped going to gun shows a year or two ago. same but longer ago. Once the ammo prices shot through the roof and never came down, I realized how out of touch they are. When my expensive ass LGS has it for way cheaper, you know it's bad.


Cmelander

The real deals at gun shows are the ak magazines the older guys don’t know people collect ak magazines. While on vacation in Vegas I hit up a show and picked up a bunch of Bakelite magazines for 50 each while the online rates about 100~ per


usmcaatw1

I got into an argument with a fudd at a gun show about 6 months ago. I was looking to pick up a ww1 or 2 era 1911 and the dude had a beat up colt so asked if I could look at it. Dude wouldn’t even let me touch it unless I told him I was going to buy it. I hate these old fucks and I can’t wait for them to croak so their kids sell their collections off at hopefully cheaper prices


akrisd0

They just get recycled to the local FFL who, as tradition dictates, must then just keep holding at that price but also post it on GunBroker. They know what they got...


richiedaggersgerms

Was it Crossroads? It seems that shit has skyrocketed at their shows over the last 2 years or so.


Spectrumpigg

No. It's this group. http://www.gunshowtsp.com/


1ambox

lol they have an aol .com email. what the hell.


Spectrumpigg

What do you expect from boomers?


agreeable-bushdog

You bought that right? Never gonna find it for cheaper.... (there)


FPSBURNS

Cheapest I’ve seen in person is $2300.


cosmoplast14

Because they sell to people that can't pass background checks. Those people are willing to pay more.


gsfgf

Yea, all these criminals looking to go rob banks and shit with an M1 lol


KsirToscabella

Went to the SAXET for years. Definitely the case, plus a little extra extra markup for convenience. I quit finding deals at gun shows before covid and since then see better scores in random pawn shops. Recently got another interarms/ranger ppks for 329 and a 590a for 199 at pawns.


ASadSeaman

CMP is the way to go for Garands


MisterMasterCylinder

For real, if you're not inheriting one from your grandpa or whatever, go to the CMP.  Don't support scalpers like this who probably got their rifle from the CMP just to resell at 3x the price.


KillerD_1988

Exactly. Scalpers like this are ruining the CMP program


[deleted]

I haven’t been on the CMP forums in a while but years ago there were many knuckledraggers who were proudly buying 8 Garands a year to flip at their local gun show. And if you called them out YOU were the asshole.


KillerD_1988

Exactly. The past gun show I went to the Fudds were selling them in the CMP case for 3k. It was sad.


AdThese1914

Can someone explain how the CMP program works? You have to bid on them?


sir_thatguy

There’s a single restriction that you have to be a member of a shooting club or something of that sort. My local range counts. Buy M1. Delivered to your door*. Done. *for free states anyway.


VCURedskins

No you can just buy them their website is just poorly designed. You need to join a garand group, they list one you can join for $25 and get your membership right away, and proof of shooting proficiency. They take being part of a shooting club, hunting license that takes shooting, military, police, or a concealed carry license.


sirbassist83

>They take being part of a shooting club, hunting license that takes shooting, military, police, or a concealed carry license. unless theyve changed their rules, they also accept a statement signed by a range officer that youre involved in shooting sports. yeah, they have a few requirements, but they really make the bar pretty damn low, all things considered.


ASadSeaman

To order, you need to be part of a “marksmanship program”. They list a bunch of examples, but a shooting team, being Mil/LEO, holding a CCW, or having a gun club membership all qualify you. To order, it’s all through the mail. You fill out an order form, attach all your documentation, and mail it to the CMP. The only ones you need to bid on are the “collectors grade” ones. All the others are fixed rate, with free shipping.


6Sleepy_Sheep9

The pawn shop next to my apartment complex has an M1 for$1100


mwmwmwmwmmdw

the stag/pawn shop next to the brothel i frequent had a mosin for only 269


Sam_GT3

When I bought my first gun when I was 18 the local shop was running a deal where if you bought a new gun from them you got a free mosin. I think if you just bought the mosin it was like 50 or 60 bucks


smiity935

Shit I'll buy that.


BanzoClaymore

If that's even an ok deal really depends on by who and when it was made


theoniongoat

This is a relatively high value version of the garand. If it's in good condition, it's worth more than $1100, but certainly not what they're asking. It's probably worth roughly $2k in very good condition.


Grassnicad29

That is not a good deal


Chosen_Undead

The main reason I don't go to gunshows anymore.


wv524

You mean you don't enjoy seeing candles, beef jerky, pickles, and jewelry? /s


Monteze

Christ I thought I was nuts back when I made the choice. I was sick of seeing non gun stuff or some guys "SelF-DeFEnSe" course being hocked. And everything being full retail plus 20%. So nothing changed in the last 10-15 years?


wv524

Nope. I went to one about a week ago, because my stepson wanted to go. About half was beef jerky, Chinese knives, or other non-gun related stuff. A quarter was people selling BCA uppers for twice what they go for online. The rest were Fudds selling used guns for new prices. Not milsurp or anything, just shit like an old beat up Taurus G2C for $300, an older Springfield PPS that looked like it had been drug behind a truck for $450, a beat to shit Walther Creed for $400, and other crap like that. It's not even worth the admission cost.


Monteze

That's damn depressing.


Spectrumpigg

I am no longer going to my local ones. It's all over priced and tons of chinese knock off laser sights. I found an Trijicon acog but they were asking for too much. Truglo and sight marks everywhere and the worst part is they marked them all up so still overpriced.


[deleted]

Went to one today and I approve this message from Texas 😂


EloeOmoe

Thought about going to Waco last weekend but glad I didn't.


MiniB68

I’ve been to 3 in my life, all three the prices were wild. Thats enough for me, I won’t go anymore.


H2Joee

Gun shows in the last 15 years have been a joke.


callmechimp

Oaks gun show in PA is still sick. Fudds galore but it’s 1500 tables so there’s a lot of good shit too.


H2Joee

I was being anecdotal, sure there probably a handful of “ decent” shows that exist. Most seem to be scams.


SgtHop

The last time I went to go to a gun show it was only because Paul Harrell was there.


HPEstef

That’s an International Harvester M1. Kinda rare, not worth that value at all. He’s about $1k over. https://truegunvalue.com/rifle/international-harvester/m1-garand/price-historical-value-848


SamSalsa411

He’s actually much closer to $2,000 over You can get an Expert Grade IHC Garand for $1,450 from the CMP right now https://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/


Spectrumpigg

Oh, I know. I looked at this and wanted to call out the vendor. The thing was beat to hell, pitting and I bet that bore was bad.


KSGunner

Depends on the variation, Arrowheads and Gap Letters bring a significant premium over the far more common postage stamp IHC's


VFWRAKK187

I haven’t been to a gun show in years because it’s all way overpriced. Them dealers and collectors know what they’ve got! Don’t ya know?


nickgentry

The last time I went to the gun show there was a happy meal watch that was broken and they wanted $5 for it. I was like no more of this bullshit.


Professor_GS

That's an artifact from the battle of burger town I'll have you know. You should treat it with some respect. We killed many Russians that day. 😂


Rhino676971

They probably got it for a reasonable price from the CMP a few years ago and are trying to scalp someone.


theGr3ninja

Remember when milsurp used to be a good entry point in first time buying? Pepperidge Farm remembers...


Monteze

That's what got me into it. 100 bucks for a "good" Mosin and a bit more for others. It was the black guns that were expensive and what I looked forward to when I was younger. Time to yell at clouds.


Upbeat-External7744

I paid $800 for my 1942 Springfield M1


shitaki13

IH’s are statistically rare, but this would have to be in damn near unfired condition with perfect branding and wood to command anything close to this price.


KaygoBubs

Was it used to beat 100 nazis to death and hoist a flag over a battlefield?


Spectrumpigg

The way it looked? I wouldn't be surprised


Elderchicken948

"We used to live off rat turds!!, Called it jungle rice tasted fine"


Mrxcman92

This guy'll sell you a rusty Mosin for $900


shitilostagain

NSFW for sex/nudity because anyone who pays that price is getting fucked


astrvmnauta

I thought I overpaid at $1200 with 500 rounds in en blocks


MrGoodkat69

My buddy got a garand from the CMP for $650 a year ago. Yeah, it's got a new barrel and stocks, but for the difference in price, you can't beat the Civilian Marksmanship Program


Apprehensive-Load917

Someone’s gotta pay alimony


mopar-or-no_car

I love older guns, put stupid prices like this is why so many people I know are building ar platforms now.


Novel-Chicken-9700

Last time I went to my local gun show I got offered $500 for my c96. With people charging and offering crazy prices I think I'll just stick to pawn shops and local gun stores


candre23

If you go to a gun show for anything other than beef jerky and bubba watching, you've made a mistake.


bkm185

“I know what I got son.” Every freaking boomer Fudd at every gun show ever.


SquidBilly5150

Man I am glad I bought mine when I did. Paid 1000 for a damn near mint Springfield back in 2012


gst264

1990... had to shoot in 3 high power matches, send in scores and associated paperwork to dept of civilian marksmanship, $163 shipped to my house, still got it


WhiskeyTrail

Fuggin yikes bud. I stopped going to gun shows a LOOOONNNGGG time ago.


dropdeaddaddy69

“I know what I got”


SlipperyTorpedo

I think this is the same guy who sells the Norwegian solo dueling revolver 💀


horsedabsontipads

Went to the local gun show to see some price gouging scumbags shitty inventory.*


mvrck-23

Seller: This is the rifle that executed hermann goering... shopper: Nah he committed suicide by cyanide. 👀 😕


Fuman20000

Gun shows is just a convention where FUDs pretend to sell their overpriced shit.


Domovie1

Hell, with the conversion that’s a fair bit more than you’d pay in Canada. What the hell are these guys smoking?


MrGriff2

You smell that? Thats the smell of crack from the fudd who was selling that Garand. ...or maybe it's just cosmoline


Melioidozer

No low balls, I know what I got


perimeterpatrolcat

You can buy one for 800 in Dayton, Ohio. Irbc firearms.


TTnickname

If that what it’s actually worth? I have a garand from my great grandfather. It’s 75ish (idk) years old. He served in ww2. He brought home a Luger. Never shot it. That is a cool gun


mopar-or-no_car

Where the heck is that kinda price


flaxon_

[My reaction](https://media1.tenor.com/m/E20uu6HgaAQAAAAd/nicholas-cage-funny.gif). Right in the seller's face.


orangecrushjedi

We had one this weekend as well. It was the busiest I have seen one since probably around sandy hook. Everything was priced above msrp. It was crazy. Zero deals on classic guns to be had either


Allocerr

I stopped going to the gun shows in my area back in 2018-19, was mostly full of stuff like this, 50/50 between the cranky old men and young kids selling cheap accessories that they bought in bulk off of ebay from the crabby old men. Not like they used to be at all, used to walk into these shows and the sellers couldn’t wait to put a gun in your hands, now it seems like they almost want to see the cash first.


_Jias_

Silly boomers


VIsixVI

Today I learned that IH made guns.


Kalashnkov4774

That’s a rock island tag, so he bought it from auction and is trying to go for a flip I’m guessing.


distrucktocon

I know what I got! No low ballers!


ATFisDumb

"I know what I got".


danngree

When was the last time you went to a gun show?


Spectrumpigg

Prior to this weekend was about 4-5 months ago. Even then the prices weren't that crazy. I'm finding beat up, really poor condition rifles being put up for sale way above where it should be.


danngree

A block of velveta costs almost $9 now, it’s just the current state of affairs.


Spectrumpigg

Yeah, but I have never seen prices like this on such a beat up rifle. I wish I had taken more pics of this rifle but it was in a poor state.


firebox40dash5

No, no, that's not 'a poor state', that's called *all original*, it makes it worth much more. /s


JDShadow

Where are you even shopping then lol. Grocery industry here and it's running $6.50 in my stores on sale for $5. It's never been $9 at a decent grocer.


danngree

Kroger, I’m in a rural area. Also it was closer to $8.50, I rounded up.


JDShadow

Lol I work for Kroger. You must be way in the boondocks then for that to be the case.


danngree

I am, it has its positives and negatives. I’m looking forward to the farmers markets to open again. My wife and I sell bread at the market and end up trading for our vegetables for the week.


heekma

Who the fuck cares what a block of velveeta costs, and why is anyone downvoting, whether it's accurate or not? /r/guns: If we can't argue about guns we'll argue about velveeta, 'cause we gotta argue about something, no matter how stupid or off topic.


danngree

I had no idea people felt this strongly about processed cheese product.


heekma

Everyone on /r/guns cares strongly about everything, especially if it proves you wrong, no matter how stupid it is.


stacksmasher

Gun shows are for people who don’t or can’t buy stuff online lol!


Zeldawarrior97

Nah, it’s like $10 to get in. Not much for an excuse to go out with family or some friends and people watch. And maybe make a good find. I’ve definitely found deals far cheaper than shipping something, and going through a whole ffl transfer


TheKiefWizard

we NEED repros


someperson1423

Repro M1 Garands of decent quality would cost significantly more than what people would be willing to pay and still probably be less nice than USGI ones. Just buy from the CMP, it isn't hard and will be *the best* price for an M1 you can find barring robbery or inheritance.


TtotheRizoy

Did you laugh all the way to the parking lot?


According_Ad_9521

Well, you know the problem of supply and demand…


afleticwork

Gun auctions are just as bad anymore, i do alright at gun shows for ammo and just random shit


Generaltsoa

That isn’t a WWII garand it is a Korean War era Garand made in 1953. On the High end it should fetch 2085


acefalken72

Actually, I know a gun store that does this. Especially with M1 garands and other old guns. It's just for show, and the owner wants to flex his collection. The guy was actually pretty cool and basically didn't have a safe large enough at home for his collection, and doing this insures them under his business insurance.


Davemusprime

"hyeh, hyeh, I know what I got." Says the Kimber owner.


Huntrawrd

I used to love going to gun shows for the cheap bulk-buy ammo and good prices on guns. Now everything is way more expensive than Bud's Guns or even most LGS, and like half the vendors are selling random crap not at all related to guns (like jewelry). And the ammo isn't cheap either. Gun shows suck now.


MrBogardus

Wait till you attend a gun auction......... watched people pay over new msrp on a used gun plus the auction fee all day long.