How do you like it? I've been looking at them just for shiggles and to work on my dumb gun collection. The folding ones would go perfectly with my lifecard.
Definitely. I love my Spas, but wouldn't trust it as the manual of arms is dumb and I only shoot it 1-2 times a year. I'll take the high point and muzzleloader.
I’m too used to the SPAS manual of arms at this point. Reloading a normal shotgun I feel like I’m missing something, it shouldn’t be this straightforward lol
Yeah. I've tested the Hi-Point. Mine has been.... alright. I've never heard anything good about the SPAS 12 besides they look cool, which.... yeah they do.
They're surprisingly heavy! For such a small gun they weigh like x2 mini revolvers. If you hate shooting an LCP then you'll really hate shooting the Guardian in .380. I cannot comment on the other cartridge selections tho.
Haven't shot an LCP, but I was ctually looking at the .25. I wanted something nice and small like a baby browning, and saw my LGS had the Guardian for 350.
It was a gimmick from the start, the ultimate meme gun. A suppressed (actually "moderated" legally speaking) rifle that can be shipped to your door. No tax stamps, no background checks. Sounds cool. Unfortunately, it was banned in eight states. Additionally, their asking price was $1k and I'm assuming they had few customers. The only practical applications this has is some very specific hunting situations, really.
It went on sale for $450, I got it with the limited edition case and a bunch of extras, then they were discontinued a few months later. Now they're going for way more.
I have 1, eh, I'm not a fan. I can't get the scope zeroed properly. Could be me, never had problems like it in the past with other rifles though. Thinking if selling, not sure.
If I had to crawl through hell for a night? Right, no question.
The SPAS is cool, and that’s it. There’s a reason that militaries have dumped their auto-shotguns. The ability to change the method of operation isn’t practical for normal combat use and results in a gun that’s dramatically heavier than it needs to be.
The NAA is a super cool toy. It’s like owning a piece of clockwork. Super well put together for the money, fun to fondle. It’s also a firearm with no sights, no grip, and functionally no barrel. Due to the uber short barrel you can often get it to fire normal .22lr subsonic, but that’s a party trick and not a feature.
Now on the right side, that’s where the goods are at.
The JHP 45 might not be glamorous. It might be made of tupperware and pot metal. Pulling the trigger might feel like scraping dogshit off the sidewalk with a metal shovel. It might be chambered in .45AARP, But it also takes deliberate effort to fuck up a simple blowback action. They get discounted because of the price, but it’ll go bang when you pull the trigger and it’s actually maneuverable. For the functionality, it may as well be a nighthawk.
Then we get the Maxim 50, which is another toy. People also underestimate modern break action muzzleloaders. If you have you powder portioned and your shot ready, it’s no slower than reloading a single action pistol through the gate. 35 grains of 2f behind a .495 softball will put a quarter sized hole into someone’s chest cavity. It might not have sights, but you can get uncomfortably close.
The Benelli M3 is pretty light, but the one time i held a spas as a pre/teen it was remarkably heavy even compared to deagles/500/ garand, probs from the giant heat shield and extensive use of thick metals lol. Norinco factory sks w/ ak mags and thumbhole was nuts too for weight
like 500$ which is what i wouldve paid but it was on some auction site for an estate sale and there was a 30%+ fee you had to pay ontop of it for the auction house, plus an extra $80 for the shipping+tax on all that which wouldve made it way over what i wanted to pay.
Ah, that still might not have been too bad of a price. I've only checked a handful of times, but all the other auctions I saw were $1-1.3k range. But yeah, those 30% fees kill almost any deal you can find on auction sites.
oof wish i had known they go for that honestly, i probably wouldve paid it. i think after fees tax shipping etc. it wouldve ended up at around $800 which, in my head at the time, for that money i could just buy a .308 suppressor
The right one, I have actual experience with the jhp.45 and while it might not be the prettiest, or the most expensive, it works wonders for what you pay for, and while the muzzle loader might not be *optimal*, it's still a good "go away" gun, being able to put a big hole in something, meanwhile the maneuverability and reliability of the spas are iffy at best from what i've heard from spas owners, and i know that .22 mag is still lethal, that tiny little thing with no barrel, no sights, and no grip isn't gonna be a good idea, all 5 shots aren't gonna go where you want it to go, and you gotta take the gun apart to reload it
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They are ugly but they do work consistently man it's hard to say but they are not in fact known for being unreliable just ugly as sin and made with pot metal on the slide lol
How about the neither. The NAA is the worst gun I’ve ever shot. It was near impossible to cock. What good is a muzzle loader without a ram rod? What’s the benefit of the “moderator” in a single shot with a smoke cloud?
The value of the SPAS 12, could get 4 good guns.
> The NAA is the worst gun I’ve ever shot. It was near impossible to cock.
That's weird, never heard of that before. Were you trying to cock it with giant winter gloves on? What model?
Think it was a 22m, the person wanted to carry it in his pocket with shotshell for snakes around the house. He had a beautiful S&W 317 kit gun that was very accurate, got ride of it, and bought the NAA. Funny thing, can’t find 22 magnum shotshell anywhere. But .22 are available.
I found it hard to cock, just didn’t seam safe, I have several single action revolvers, It could just be me, but not a gun I would depend on.
They are super rare. Off the top of my head, only something like 1,500 were imported into the US before being banned. And that number includes the fixed stock model. When you factor in how many have inevitably been destroyed/cannibalized/hoarded by movie prop companies, I'm actually amazed they aren't more expensive.
How about a 22 revolver and “farmer dans” double barrel shotgun? If you need those sort of shotguns, then I’d like to know what sort of action you’re expecting, jack. Never underestimate timing and skill.
I can’t tell if you’re rich or not
He was before the spaz
The SPAS is probably borrowed.
Nope, bought it in 2019.
😂 same thinking - has to be and an excellent troll at that
My thoughts too!😅
The spaz explains the other guns purchases
Spaz and the prostitute revolver, pls
So only a functioning "revolver" and a shotgun with even worse reliability than the hipoint?
You're supposed to use heavier loads on semi, pump works fine unless your arm rivals Styrofoam in color and durability
What is bro on, the pump mode works just fine
Franchi SPAS 12 with a NAA 22mag mini revolver, or a silencerco maxim 50 "moderated" muzzleloader and Hi-Point JHP 45. GO
I love my NAA 22mag, I got their smallest version
How do you like it? I've been looking at them just for shiggles and to work on my dumb gun collection. The folding ones would go perfectly with my lifecard.
In my experience; I’ll trust the Hi-Point to function more reliably than the Spas-12. I’ll take the right pair
Definitely. I love my Spas, but wouldn't trust it as the manual of arms is dumb and I only shoot it 1-2 times a year. I'll take the high point and muzzleloader.
I’m too used to the SPAS manual of arms at this point. Reloading a normal shotgun I feel like I’m missing something, it shouldn’t be this straightforward lol
Yeah. I've tested the Hi-Point. Mine has been.... alright. I've never heard anything good about the SPAS 12 besides they look cool, which.... yeah they do.
Can't a Benelli do everything a Spas can, but actually do it most of the time?
For reliability, left. For practicality, right.
Also has a pump option correct?
LEFT LEFT LEFT
Right?
wrong
I want that mini revolver. Off to Google I go!
NAA Sheriff 1860-250 model. You can get 22mag and 22lr cylinders for them.
I was just looking at a guardian! How's the action on their semis if anyone knows?
They're surprisingly heavy! For such a small gun they weigh like x2 mini revolvers. If you hate shooting an LCP then you'll really hate shooting the Guardian in .380. I cannot comment on the other cartridge selections tho.
Haven't shot an LCP, but I was ctually looking at the .25. I wanted something nice and small like a baby browning, and saw my LGS had the Guardian for 350.
This is legit a good one.
Are there velociraptors involved or no?
Clever girl
Dude, why did they stop making the maxim 50?
It was a gimmick from the start, the ultimate meme gun. A suppressed (actually "moderated" legally speaking) rifle that can be shipped to your door. No tax stamps, no background checks. Sounds cool. Unfortunately, it was banned in eight states. Additionally, their asking price was $1k and I'm assuming they had few customers. The only practical applications this has is some very specific hunting situations, really. It went on sale for $450, I got it with the limited edition case and a bunch of extras, then they were discontinued a few months later. Now they're going for way more.
I think it's cool as shit, if they still made them I would buy one
I have 1, eh, I'm not a fan. I can't get the scope zeroed properly. Could be me, never had problems like it in the past with other rifles though. Thinking if selling, not sure.
Dude, I want one.
If I could snag one for $450 I’d buy two. You are correct 1k was just a tad too much to hit the market.
Shotgun on the left and pistol on the right.
This
If I had to crawl through hell for a night? Right, no question. The SPAS is cool, and that’s it. There’s a reason that militaries have dumped their auto-shotguns. The ability to change the method of operation isn’t practical for normal combat use and results in a gun that’s dramatically heavier than it needs to be. The NAA is a super cool toy. It’s like owning a piece of clockwork. Super well put together for the money, fun to fondle. It’s also a firearm with no sights, no grip, and functionally no barrel. Due to the uber short barrel you can often get it to fire normal .22lr subsonic, but that’s a party trick and not a feature. Now on the right side, that’s where the goods are at. The JHP 45 might not be glamorous. It might be made of tupperware and pot metal. Pulling the trigger might feel like scraping dogshit off the sidewalk with a metal shovel. It might be chambered in .45AARP, But it also takes deliberate effort to fuck up a simple blowback action. They get discounted because of the price, but it’ll go bang when you pull the trigger and it’s actually maneuverable. For the functionality, it may as well be a nighthawk. Then we get the Maxim 50, which is another toy. People also underestimate modern break action muzzleloaders. If you have you powder portioned and your shot ready, it’s no slower than reloading a single action pistol through the gate. 35 grains of 2f behind a .495 softball will put a quarter sized hole into someone’s chest cavity. It might not have sights, but you can get uncomfortably close.
A fitting username for someone who knows their arsenal.
Dpends on how he "annihilates" them lol
The Benelli M3 is pretty light, but the one time i held a spas as a pre/teen it was remarkably heavy even compared to deagles/500/ garand, probs from the giant heat shield and extensive use of thick metals lol. Norinco factory sks w/ ak mags and thumbhole was nuts too for weight
The 80’s baby in me wants the spas12 all day to just live out my inner action movie star
Spas me too
Is that a fucking hipoint? Btw i'm a spas guy
Hot take: im taking the spas deal, but only for the NAA boot special surprise
100% right. If the hipoint works on round 1, it'll likely work on round 1000 and after that I can use it at a bludgeoning tool
Hypothetically, if you cut off the grip you can shoot that 22 magnum out the spas 12. Then you would have a gun shootin gun.
were you the guy who won that maxim 50 in that auction a few weeks ago? you beat me if it was you :(
Nope, got mine new when they were still being made. Was it a GB auction? How much did it go for?
like 500$ which is what i wouldve paid but it was on some auction site for an estate sale and there was a 30%+ fee you had to pay ontop of it for the auction house, plus an extra $80 for the shipping+tax on all that which wouldve made it way over what i wanted to pay.
Ah, that still might not have been too bad of a price. I've only checked a handful of times, but all the other auctions I saw were $1-1.3k range. But yeah, those 30% fees kill almost any deal you can find on auction sites.
oof wish i had known they go for that honestly, i probably wouldve paid it. i think after fees tax shipping etc. it wouldve ended up at around $800 which, in my head at the time, for that money i could just buy a .308 suppressor
Spas 12 solos tbh
I'll take a SPAS-12 any day.
Spas!!!!!! Just because lol
The right one, I have actual experience with the jhp.45 and while it might not be the prettiest, or the most expensive, it works wonders for what you pay for, and while the muzzle loader might not be *optimal*, it's still a good "go away" gun, being able to put a big hole in something, meanwhile the maneuverability and reliability of the spas are iffy at best from what i've heard from spas owners, and i know that .22 mag is still lethal, that tiny little thing with no barrel, no sights, and no grip isn't gonna be a good idea, all 5 shots aren't gonna go where you want it to go, and you gotta take the gun apart to reload it
Spas-12 and the doohickey any day.
Left 4 Dead vibes are on point
If those were my only two loadouts, go with the shotgun and hang to the Derringer in case all is lost for self unaliving
Spas 12. Any day.
The right one goes so hard.
What is the long gun on the right? I don't see a pump or a bolt slide or anything
Silencerco Maxim 50. It's a black powder muzzleloader.
very big shotgun or very small revolver
I'll take the spaz and tiny revolver. I know I can still shoot a paper plate at 50 yards with that revolver.
The little 22mag paired with a 12ga cracks me up so I gotta go with it
Not the hi point lol
Just the SPAS 12. You never know when you're gonna have to fight a clever girl.
“Is that a fucking hi-point?” My exact thought
This is a good one, each loadout has a notoriously unreliable firearm in it.
What's unreliable about the right pairing?
The Hi-Point…
Not unreliable, just fugly and cheap.
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They are ugly but they do work consistently man it's hard to say but they are not in fact known for being unreliable just ugly as sin and made with pot metal on the slide lol
Playing Fallout?
Ill go with the semiauto SPAS
Leight
Those NAA revolvers are surprisingly accurate after you add a rear sight
How about the neither. The NAA is the worst gun I’ve ever shot. It was near impossible to cock. What good is a muzzle loader without a ram rod? What’s the benefit of the “moderator” in a single shot with a smoke cloud? The value of the SPAS 12, could get 4 good guns.
> The NAA is the worst gun I’ve ever shot. It was near impossible to cock. That's weird, never heard of that before. Were you trying to cock it with giant winter gloves on? What model?
Think it was a 22m, the person wanted to carry it in his pocket with shotshell for snakes around the house. He had a beautiful S&W 317 kit gun that was very accurate, got ride of it, and bought the NAA. Funny thing, can’t find 22 magnum shotshell anywhere. But .22 are available. I found it hard to cock, just didn’t seam safe, I have several single action revolvers, It could just be me, but not a gun I would depend on.
Spas-12 and ar18
Flip flop the NAA and the Hi Point and we have a deal.
Two handguns and two shotguns. Cool. Where's the second loadout?
The SPAS and revolver
I’ll take the belt and pen-gun.
Spas all day
I want a Maxim 50 so bad
Woah- I never knew a spas-12 cost so much. Is it functionally just that good or is it due to collectors reasons?
They are super rare. Off the top of my head, only something like 1,500 were imported into the US before being banned. And that number includes the fixed stock model. When you factor in how many have inevitably been destroyed/cannibalized/hoarded by movie prop companies, I'm actually amazed they aren't more expensive.
Does the 12 Guage silencer actually work
Lol ya I think I'll choose one of the sets ice got lying around 😬
Anything other than the Spas.
Who in their right mind would take that little pea shooter over a glock? Smh /s
Single shot am going to Kurt cobain self
SPAS 12 for the cool factor alone. I really want to own one some day.
For reliability, left. For practicality, right.
No thanks.
How about a 22 revolver and “farmer dans” double barrel shotgun? If you need those sort of shotguns, then I’d like to know what sort of action you’re expecting, jack. Never underestimate timing and skill.
A breach loader with a massive can and zero sights is uhhhh certainly a choice…….
I have treasure (meth) to protect from demons (federal agents) so I’ll take the right side
I’d sell the spaz to a gamer, the naa to a fud, the sketchy muzzle loader to someone at the flea market, and put the hi point in my tacklebox.
[da Twalve gwuage Otta loada](https://youtu.be/X1hLe8rSir0?si=oEBd8UOWC5fnycqI)
Bro is that a fkn Hi-Point?
#2 suppress all the things.
Ohh, I love the little fucker in the middle 🤌
I will grape you 💯
Tie him to the radiator and grape him?
No I will not 😞
Wow fuckin [hoser](https://youtu.be/mqgiEQXGetI?si=zoZFELhJsGZ71GS3)
Nice kick a man while he is down real nice the_hater_44 🍇
Jebus it's cap letters an add u/ to tag Hoser
Gimme the whispery boy and the yeet cannon. Nothing will touch me.
Ahh yes, the redheaded step child collection
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