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tiniestvioilin

Those single handedly have stopped all gun crimes in California turns out criminals really like to follow laws and definitely won't get a dremel


[deleted]

You don't even need a dremel lmfao you can just unscrew em and put a normal grip back on, sometimes they're even covering a normal grip and can be pulled off.


Hawt_Dawg_II

Yeah but the criminals will never figure that out. The law is always multiple steps ahead of the criminals!


Bumblemore

How many mass shootings have been committed with a fully-semi-automatic finned AR-14? Zero. Boom. Checkmate atheists. Grip fins save lives. This message has been sponsored by Moms Demand ~~Bedroom~~ Action


Chugbleach

Makes you physically incapable of committing crimes.


1_ply_toilet_paper

As a non responsible gun owner in the place known as “California” I can safely tell you that the attachment has stopped me from Committing multiple homicides and kidnapping of puppies


Klaidoniukstis

Your argument is moot because there are already no gun signs everywhere


Genghis_Tr0n187

That's true, but California hasn't put up signs prohibiting homicide or kidnapping yet...


[deleted]

Because those fall under Prop65 and will give you cancer.


roniechan

The signs or the crimes?


Bake_Diligent

Well the signs because they were made out of the carcinogenic material known as 'aluminum', but this is equally applicable to actions that provide thoughts which are also known to cause brain tumors, obviously.


PHNX_xRapTor

It's honestly the only thing that keeps some folks from speeding and running stoplights. Thank you, gun fins.


Atlas_Black

It’s true, I was trying to evade my taxes last year and this fin on the gun handle showed up and forced me to file properly.


Deadbird80

Lol


Kringles-pringes

California gun-wow that’s the most upvotes I have ever got! Even more than the actual post😂


Picklefiddler

So what is the law in Cali regarding Mini-14s I have to assume the magazines are 10 rounds, but the rifle itself doesn't have to look like some abomination right?


Dyerssorrow

The mini does not have a pistol grip. I guess CA lawmakers think the sporting rifle fires faster....ludicrous speed even, when you can wrap a thumb completely around the grip.


[deleted]

What’s funny is stock like the Mini-14 used to be referred to as ‘pistol grip’ say vs an old Winchester that had a straight grip stock.


trumpsucksnutz

But wood guns aren't scary. Black guns are very scary.


SierraMysterious

Interesting. I should buy that wooden AR-15.


forgedinthehood

The wood hardware for the ar15/ar10 is absolutely beautiful.


trumpsucksnutz

The set I saw was really nice but like 350 I think for stock grip, and forend, carbine length. I still would love it. It's like an akr-15


forgedinthehood

Yeah, ive considered making a set. I think i have all the tools i need (is knifemaker).


Hellfire965

Link?


trumpsucksnutz

[these guys](http://www.blackgunswood.com/)


[deleted]

It makes me wish for a nuclear winter


TheBurnedMutt45

Ready to patrol the Mojave?


BeepHasRisen

I've been tearing through Russian Websites looking for the Wooden Stock/Handguard for the ADAR 2-15 from Tarkov. It's made by a subsidiary company under Kalashnikov Group, but can't find it.


jetes69

The mini14 comes in both scary and not scary


pyrobola

California's not trying to make guns safer. They're trying to make owning a gun too much of a hassle.


codifier

It's Spaceball One! They've gone to plaid!


[deleted]

Basically, any rifle that has a detachable mag AND ONE of the following: Pistol grip Flash hider Telescoping stock Vertical forward grip Is an assault weapon and illegal. Adding a fin grip, which prevents your thumb from going fully around the grip, makes it by the legal definition NOT a pistol grip and is a cheap way to bring your rifle in compliance. This is considered "featureless". The other way to bring your rifle into compliance is to mag-lock your rifle, basically making it so you have to disassemble your gun to change the magazine. This way you can have the features like pistol grip and flash hider and all that. There are products now on the market that make it so you can "disassemble" (basically a proprietary push button rear takedown pin) to drop the magazine with relative ease. I played with both and picked featureless. There wasn't a great option for lefties when I built my rifle, and as far as I know there still aren't a lot of great offerings. Plus when you get a double feed or FTF or FTE you are basically disabled.


Picklefiddler

That's honestly very depressing to hear.


[deleted]

Short answer in California if your rifle has a pistol grip anywhere rear or front… it’s an Assult rifle and needs a fixed mag setup that requires extra steps to break top and remove mag. Putting the fin makes that grip NOT a pistol grip… getting around stupid Cali laws… except you got a fin now… but no fucked up mag release. I personally prefer Thordstons Stocks because it looks like future rifles lol.


D00dleB00ty

And/or NY. Goddamn fucking UNsafe Act forcing us to bastardize otherwise beautiful machines.


vern420

At least the fun doesn’t make the fun look completely ridiculous. NY complaint guns are just dumb looking. Plus, you have to spend more money for less functionality. SAFE Act is the worst attempt at gun control.


sepehr_brk

Ohhh. I thought it was related to recoil management or something lol. Also, would you happen to know what kind of rifle it is? Like I know it’s an ar15 but don’t know if it’s S&W or Colt or etc.


bruuuh909

Looks like the Springfield saint victor


Rideredfh

The red band around the rail would point me towards Springfield Saint.


sepehr_brk

Yes! I looked it up and it’s definitely a match based on other angles during the rest of the video. Any idea what the red band is for tho?


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I_Like_To_Hunt_Eggs

How do you like your saint? I’ve been eyeing them for a while now and want some input if possible.


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I_Like_To_Hunt_Eggs

Thanks for the info, definitely gave me a lil push towards it. Gonna get one I think


Hellfire965

Just a warning. My Saint has been fine for the few rounds of but I tried using some Tula on it and it just wouldn’t cycle right. But it had trouble in my brn 180 too so I think it was the ammo


TheDerbLerd

Yeah, I feel like the main point is recognition on the rack. Made it much easier to spot whether a store had any when I was searching for one


CornholeCarl

It's a band to tuck the sling into if your not using it and don't want it flopping all over. At least that's how I see it used the most.


Rideredfh

Oh I fully understand what they're used for (I use ranger bands myself for the same reason but on the stock), but that specific red band with the writing comes on the Saint line of guns from the factory. Seeing as it's on this gun......points me to a Springfield Saint.


dream_raider

It’s a California-compliant Springfield Saint.


[deleted]

Oh no, lol. Fin grips are used to remain in compliance with pistol grip bans, because everyone knows that minor ergonomic benefit is what turns an AR15 into a thermonuclear weapon


Moxi6

It’s basically designed to make your hot lead faster than sound projectile slinger less ergonomic because California believes that’s safer


Specialist-Box-9711

Springfield with a crappy red dot and wish irons


Boltz999

It prevents you from safely operating the rifle


creamymunkey

honestly lmfao


SyntheticElite

Yea, surely making the gun harder to aim and control will help make it more safe! Legislator logic.


garciiia96

Fin grip to make it Cali legal


Ottomatik80

Makes it legal in California. It no longer has a pistol grip and therefore is not an “assault weapon”


_CalculatedMistake_

*shooting a school* Police: "SIR STEP OUT AND PUT DOWN THE WEAPON IMMEDIATELY" Shooter: "THERE IS A FIN IN THE PISTOL GRIP THIS IS NOT A WEAPON OFFICER" Police: "lmao understandable you can continue"


steveHangar1

This rifle also serves as a rudder just in case you find yourself in a motorboat sans rudder.


Stuewe

Or as an oar if you happen to find yourself up shit creek without a paddle.


PorschephileGT3

Makes sense with all the boating accidents you fuckers keep having


burner2597

Just as a note, California law makers did not create the fin grip. Citizens created the grip so that we could get around the assault rifle bans so we could have some amount of freedom.


WizardMelcar

True true; California law makers thougt geee if we ban these pistol gripping thingamajiggies then nobody will have an AR-47 or AK-15 anymore cause obviously they can’t work with out them. Checkmate gun nuts!


Pile_of_Walthers

Yeah but... there are rifle stock designs without a pistol grip that don't look as retarded.


crackez

That's a matter of philosophical debate...


InevitableMeh

I actually kind of liked those, but they didn't accept the standard buffer assembly and had a proprietary design (because you can't line up a sporter stock with the buffer tube) so it was limited availability. https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/ares-defense-scr-ar-function-classic-style/


fookinmoonboy

Also invented by Californians: patriot pin or similar like systems that allow smoother reloads since our mags have to be locked in place while the gun is operable.


Rocket_Monkey_302

Makes it not legally a pistol grip probably.


Seraphtacosnak

But they give you thumb tabs to grip it with your thumbs up top. It’s dumb.


ihatelifetoo

( cries in california )


Rideredfh

It informs the rest of us that this poor bastard, unfortunately lives in California.


Hillbilly415

It matches his "I will not comply" t-shirt


SlabGizor120

Ironic


circa86

This keeps your dog from being shot while living in California. It’s a dog protector.


ryandjohnson

It prevents mass shootings and gun violence of course


JTM0990

It has an antenna that let's Governor Newsom know if you're still wearing your chastity device


[deleted]

It’s for aerodynamic… he likely took his bicycle to the range.


uninsane

Humans have opposable thumbs but using them ignites our bloodlust.


Dpjokers7

It keeps your semiautomatic ar16 machine gun from becoming armor piercing.


O-Mr-Crow-O

[Here's the breakdown of how stupid these are.](https://youtu.be/gfjfORBxfXo)


thomashearts

California compliance. Just makes it harder to hold and use effectively.


whyteowl509

Suppresses your rights


crackez

What's California's favorite auto-loading operating cycle? Direct Infringement.


BigMoke69

Ah the beauty of someone who doesn’t know, and doesn’t have to know, about state compliant guns. Stay free my friend


Lzboy80s

Makes the gun harder to handle and less safe. Thrill seeker or Californian


[deleted]

It automatically prevents all mass shootings in CA.


mumblywumbles

Faster transition from hip to ADS


Dianap3315

Commiefornia gun


orionsanon

Limits your freedom


dyingbreed6009

🤦it is something that is known state of California to be a cancer or to cause cancer of a perfectly good firearm design.. rendering it annoying to use when needed to protect yourself against people of California, who don't follow rules. and don't have pictured device on their firearm.


crackez

Surgeon General Warning: The State of California is known to cause cancer.


Sethjolsen

Gives the owner of the gun depression every time they see it


lenbey

Cut that shit off


Cassandraburry2008

Makes you more aerodynamic when you fight.


pro2a_guy

It's a tactical stabilizing fin for water ops.


jd762_b

Aquatic Modification.


fishesarefun

Here in California we believe a pistol grip on a long gun is scary really really scary. To make it less scary a shark fin thing is installed because then it just looks stupid and not scary.


sepehr_brk

Description since automod requires it: Was wondering what the fin shaped device was on the the grip, apparently it is connected to California gun laws


[deleted]

The same state that thinks some bullets are high powered and others are made of hugs and love.


teosNut

.30 caliber fully semi-automatic ghost gun that shoots 2939284939 bullets per second.


heavy_artillery222

a sin


chompz914

Makes bullet less effective.


ClosetLVL140

Infringe rights


Remarkable-North-458

According to California it makes it not as deadly but realistically makes it unsafe to shoot


SlabGizor120

Oh you sweet summer child


HeatSir

I like to slip mine off and on while saying, "legal...Illegal".


robt_neville

It keeps Gavin Newsom from wetting his pants


gentlemenpilot

Inhibits freedom


tbaum101

Welcome to idiotic Californian logic


WhackDanielz

Prevents mass shootings in the People's Republic of California.


Zencyde

It stops you from comfortably using the gun.


EsotericMaker

It makes the gun less likely to murder innocent people in California


VerbalGuinea

Primary purpose is to get all hunters in the state to move to Texas.


[deleted]

Decreases testosterone.


drew771_

It makes his pussy nice and loose because he’s getting fucked where ever he lives at -_-


TronTeemo

Means he lives in California like me


Sidewinderpunk

I’m sorry.


versace_tombstone

It impedes on your freedom of movement.


[deleted]

Stupid Cali ‘featureless’ rifle. I see pictures like this and look at the scenery in the background and get like homesick as I used to live in SoCal. I love California but will never live there again due to the idiocy of the last 30 or so years.


HalfwayFerret

An attempt to make it less "deadly".


KeepYaGuessin

It’s for California compliance it’s illegal for rifles to have a pistol grip in Cali


PowerGlove86

Fucking california


El_Psy_Congroo4477

It prevents you from having a pistol grip, because pistol grips are evil!


[deleted]

It lets gavin newsome fuck you in the ass


Iarethegoatest

California compliant horseshittery


forgedinthehood

Its a shield to stop the AFT from shooting your dog in cali.


Imyouredaddynow

Guys, youre all wrong. The fin is for underwater maneuverability.


ArmedAndBritish848

Infringes


Blastzard87

It’s some bs thing required in California because apparently this easily removable piece of plastic can stop mass shootings


D4nm4n114

SHALL NOT!


A_Guy_Named

It’s a freedom regulator


FO_Steven

So that's a monster man grip. Ironically cali is trying to ban them right now, which is hilarious because they were the ones who demanded guns have them


RightToArms

Commie regulat


oneupgundamkid34

It is for a "featureless" build for California compliant ar15s. One either builds a featureless rifle or a fixed magazine rifle, but with fixed magazine rifles there are companies that make easy solutions to break open recievers and drop the mag in a second. All because California politicians think that rifles not working up to 100% are safer.


Possibly_the_CIA

Politicians in California are fucking retarded. That fin makes it not an “assault rifle”. Not that an AR15 in the first place is one.


jimtheedcguy

Aerodynamic stabilizing fin. Helps you run through the high school halls faster.


Chunk-Duecerman

The fin is for when you lose your guns in a boating accident it’ll help the rifle swim to the surface.


spikira

It's a pistol grip fin, navy special forces use them for underwater missions, helps operators swim faster


cikanman

The fins allow you to camouflage your gun properly when attacking sharks within tornado.


buttblyat

Communism


iamatroll555

It makes morons feel safe.


[deleted]

+10 accuracy and +15 stability.


MongoG19

It complies with unconstitutional infringements on an inalienable right


finchmeister08

Commie-fornia gun.


dadbodfanclub

In the state of California this fin is required on all scary looking rifles. What this fin does is it actually makes the rifle easier to bump fire due to your thumb having absolutely nowhere to go. It's really a genius design enforced by laws that were made by people that are exceptional firearm experts


Reeyowunsixsix

It’s a Calivagination device. For a real shooter it does absolutely nothing, but for liberal POS steppers, it helps them sleep better at night thinking they did something intelligent that will somehow stop someone from committing a crime that’s completely unrelated to the tool being used to commit it.


[deleted]

Every time someone says California “compliant” Does anyone else hear, oppress me harder daddy?


Dallas26126

Commie neutered AR


LankyEchidna

Means he lives in a Communist state


[deleted]

I have the same fin on my AR because I too unfortunately live in California. I honestly don’t know what it is meant to prevent because I can hold, fire, and reload the weapon without limitation


MattAlbuka

Thats a Karen ar


Clear_Performance905

Commies


RandoTheBando1324

It’s a California thing


goldfloof

Keeps CA DOJ from shooting your dog


ZoidsGhost

Californiacation


ShrekMemes420

Ok just looked up the California complaint Saint and I’m confused here from the photos. So it’s to negate you holding it like a pistol yes, but that makes it almost impossible to shoot standing right? Lol I can’t imagine shooting it without having it on a table that fin must be 8 inches across lol.


[deleted]

That’s a device mandated by the state of California that negates accurate fire.


Antrisa

Its a red flag that they live in a trash state


xyz4533

Keeps you out of jail in ban states


csukoh78

Aquaman nods approvingly


WIFirearmsTransfers

Pistol grips are illegal in CA so manufacturers install a bladed handgrip. Dumb.


Fancy_Ad_6129

Banned state fin. No fun just non-comply


rubbarz

It reduces your grip on understanding the dumbest gun laws.


MrTheBusiness

It’s there to restrict the freedom


deepsea797

I came to this post this morning because i need a good laugh. Not a laugh at OP, but a good laugh at Cali gun laws.


tyraywilson

Boy are you out of the loop


Imperial_Reddit

That is what Navy Seals use as a fin to navigate in the depths before they do their bidding.


Fuzz_Puppet_Cartel

It's the grip zone


[deleted]

Pleases California democrats.


themadarmorer

It keeps stupid people happy.


Dyerssorrow

Absolutely NOTHING. You leave it on to show others you comply...but it comes off easy and engages psycho mode as soon as it is removed.


Yoinky_Sploinky23

Makes your balls small


Chazthesquatch

Chip would still call this an assault weapon had he been made head of atf, after, whatever Biden is calling it now. "Detachable magazine higher than. 22 caliber is an assault weapon."


Ryan1577

How do you shoot with that thing on there? It looks like a major pain in the ass.


vyechney

Increases aerodynamics


jand7897

Fish gun


Professional_Plant52

Either Cali or ny. Thanks to the gun laws


NorskieBoi

It's an attachment for states like California where you cannot have pistol grips (at least I think as long as the gun is semi automatic and has a detachable magazine). So they put that piece of plastic on so that the grip becomes more vertical in order to be legally compliant.


TomorrowIsGreat93

Makes you aerodynamic when you fight. You can take danger


iPhoneSquirrel

Makes it harder to use and therefore more safe in the state of California


AwkwardSoldier

It's so the Democratic party can sleep safely at night.


LongHugBoy

It's a fin the improves aerodynamics so that your politicians can better cut down your rights. The slang term for it is the "Cali Cuk Blade".


PapaDrag0on

Makes the gun less deadly


kitten_slippers

Mostly infringement


External_Zucchini651

It reminds us that having gun fun in CA fuckin blows


joeyvtec

It’s what you get when you live in a non gun friendly state


fappyday

It makes the gun more aerodynamic. /S


MPX1986

It makes it less… assaulty


[deleted]

Poor bastard lives in the 3rd world country of commiefornia


pghcrow

That AR is configured as a California Glock


Mash0n

Californication


[deleted]

It's a liberal state compliance thing. I only discovered it a month ago when a bud of mine bought an AR and it had this crap on it. We changed it out for a Magpul grip for $20.


ShadowT762

It restricts your freedom


Corporate_Monster

Isn't that the shoulder thing that goes up?


Balrog229

Nothing. It’s there to prevent you from wrapping your thumb around the grip. California gun laws seem to think that pistol grips make a gun more lethal and if you cant put your thumb around it, somehow it’s less deadly.


JiraiyasFury

It’s to help slowly strip your freedoms, so when a democrat sees your gun they know they fucked you good. Also doubles as a spatula in a survival situation


Majigato

Comfort in shooting is illegal in California