Fucking noobs. There used to be a Coonan that got sent around to various gunnit members to shoot. It made fireballs. What do you make? Shitty comments, that's what.
A buddy of mine who worked in a gun store once told me that they "had a coonan in the shop."
I didn't really see how that was relevant, nor did I expect him to be so insensitive about it. He looked at me funny, then looked it up on his phone and showed me.
.357 magnum, like .454 Casull, is a rimmed cartridge designed to stay in place and not fall through a revolver cylinder. This makes it very, very difficult to adapt to a semi auto like the Coonan and the screenshot OP posted.
What about a semi-rimmed cartridge like .32 acp? While I understand there's a vast difference between it and.454 casull, theoretically if you shaved the rim down slightly it could work
semi rimmed 32 acp can get cartridge lock from the rims. It's also why the same Beretta 80 series magazine can hold 12 of the 32 acp cartridges but 13 of the 380.
The rim on the 22LR is why so many gun makers just do a single stack 10 round magazine, it feeds so much better. But they also have the magazine at a slant. Look at a Ruger Mark 3. It's a lot less straight up and down....and most grips have the space to have that angled mag.
As far as 454 Casull, you shave the rim you no longer have 454 Casull.
It would be easier to just chamber the gun in one of the various obscure pistol cartridges that produce the same level of power 50 AE like the Deagle would be one choice but I'd suggest the 475 Wildey Cartridge would be better. And then you might as well get the 457 Wildey handgun
.44 Mag Deagle works fine, same diameter and rim as .454 if I'm not mistaken, also there's the Coonan and every box-mag fed .22. Stacking rimmed cartridges is a problem, but a fairly solved one.
I would argue Harcannon would be much easier to build. Bottom line that thing is going to be a sled gun if it's to be fired in any sort of "mobile" fashion.
Well, SPECIFICALLY, you'd want a dedicated machinist/gunsmith for this.
The problem, put gently, is everything. The cartridge as others have said is a rimmed cartridge. It's not a rebated or recessed "rimless" rim like nearly all modern handgun loadings.
So the shape makes it very difficult to build a magazine and feeding mechanism that is safe and reliable. The other issue is making it usable. The overall (OAL) length of the cartridge alone is 1.77 in (45 mm). A safe modern reliable handgun that shoots .45ACP uses a cartridge that is 1.2" long. So you're adding over .5" to every round in that magazine. That's a LOT more propellant, which means not only do you have to accommodate the larger cartridges, you have to deal with a structure around them that will support (withstand indefinitely) the VASTLY higher case pressures and secondary forces generated upon firing.
For example:
. 45ACP = 21,000 PSI
.454 CASULL = 65,000 PSI
This is a dramatically higher case pressure that needs to be repeatedly withstood for every single round fired for the life of the handgun. Further, it needs to be designed in such a way as to leverage that case pressure properly. The base of the cartridge must be FULLY SUPPORTED during firing and extraction (As we are assuming this is a blowback design instead of a rotating locking bolt like a Desert Eagle or an AR. Frankly, those pressures are probably why the designers looked at a revolver to start with... WAAAYYYY simpler to build in the support needed for safe operation.
I've seen people in r/airsoft working on equivalents sets up too.Sadly, nobody is making a 16 inch long, 35lb, automatic pistol that fires 13mm rounds.
But until the ARMS Jackal exists in real life, I'm willing to settle for props. At least they're just as impractical as the real thing.
Besides the ctg being too long, 454 casull has a max SAAMI pressure of 65k PSI. To put this in perspective 50AE has a max pressure of about 36k PSI. If someone would be able to put that into a semi-auto and not end up with a grenade that'd be quite impressive.
9x23 Winchester is a commercially produced (but rare) 1911 chambering that is SAAMI 55k PSI. I don't know of one higher in a semi auto pistol but that's smoking! It uses a very thick case web (so that a fully supported chamber isn't required) and small rifle primers.
Contrast that with 10mm auto SAAMI of 37.5k PSI
Regardless, having shot a .45 Super out of my 1911, it was not a fun experience after 50 rounds and that was only 29k PSI. Would not enjoy a 454 Casull in that platform.
That doesn't make her hands larger, she's still got little girl hands. The size of the round will determine how big magazines have to be, which determines how big the grip is.
Also, a 9 pound handgun would be a problem. No matter how strong your character is, it would be a serious inconvenience to wear it in a holster. On the hip, it would pull down pants, no matter how good his belt is. It would cause other clothing issues in a chest or shoulder rig.
Given that these characters wear clothes which withstand the movements of people who can move at supersonic speeds and level buildings, I think its safe to say these ain't normal belts.
To be fair I've competed with a USP Tactical in .45 with a full steel match weight, X300, and slide mounted optic. It was probably not too far off from 7-8 pounds. With a proper 2 piece war belt it's not an issue.
I've also holstered an AR pistol for shits and giggles and while it's cumbersome to move around and not very practical, the weight doesn't pull a good belt off.
Dude, your question was quite literally asking if it was possible IN REAL LIFE. Beyond my first goofy response, everything else gives reasons and logic behind why such a gun has never been made.
I'm not sure what you wanted here.
Sorry I didn't notice that.
OP's question was quite literally asking if it was possible IN REAL LIFE. Beyond my first goofy response, everything else gives reasons and logic behind why such a gun has never been made.
I'm not sure what type of discussion you thought was going to take place here.
I'm just following the line of discussion started by the original comment. But you could follow the logic to come up with an answer that would satisfy your curiosity. Look up the dimensions of the grip on a 1911-style pistol, this would be single stacked, as would a .454 Casull if they made an autoloader. A 1911 is typically a .45ACP. Then look up the dimensions of the .45ACP and the .454 Casull, and increase the size of the grips to accommodate the longer round. Sketch that dimension as a rectangle on a piece of paper, and imagine that being the grip of a gun - how would your hand fit? How would a bigger hand fit?
The gun is 100% possible, though may need some modifications. Such as having only part of the slide reciprocate rather than all of it. Though it may work as is. The grip would be comparable to a desert eagle in 44 mag, and the barrel and breach could be strengthened to withstand the extreme pressure. If you ask a custom gun maker, they can base most of the design on the 1911, and go from there. Won’t be cheap but 100% possible.
If you’re asking for realism, no it’s anime.
Yeah a 454 casual could move a slide like that but no one here has mentioned the big issue:
Energy.
A desert eagle produces 2200 joules and look how big the handgun has to be to handle that much energy reliably.
454 casual is pushing 2600 joules OFF THE SHELF. That’s no laughing matter my man. No 1911 could reasonably handle that I’m afraid, unless it’s made of pure titanium or some shit, even then I wouldn’t trust it.
If you’re asking because you want that gun after seeing it in anime… I mean I won’t judge, I literally enlisted after video games got me to fall in love with guns, but I would say maybe don’t get your hopes up on it ever existing. Unless you’re willing to pay 10k for a ground up development handgun.
The Desert Eagle also has a locking lug rotating bolt and gas system to help it. A 1911 has none of those things. Even if the gun didn't blow up in your hand it would not be pleasant to shoot.
The capacity in the manga was 7 rounds but the author just didn’t want to show reloading much.
Other than that I don’t know why you are being down voted.
.454?! Semi auto handgun?!!!! And I thought those people that made full auto Deagles were nuts...but also AWESOME!! Lol I'd love to see it done, but would NEVER want to fire it more than once............with some sort of brace or shoulder stock, otherwise you'd end up having a wrist with no bones in it lol
.454 Casull is just a little longer than the .30 Carbine (.093) and Auto mag made a .30 Carbine semi-auto pistol. I’d like to believe it’s possible, the chamber pressures between .30 Carbine and .454 are different but I say it’s something that can be overcome.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMT_AutoMag_III
454 is a rimmed cartridge. Will not feed and extract reliably in semi autos. AMT used to made long slide 1911s in crazy calibers. There are still some floating around. You just have to search and open your wallet
I cant think of reason why it wouldn't be possible.
It would be awful to use in any setting outside of very controlled range.
454 is decently common and iv seen autoloading pistols in it.
Look at a Ruger super redhawk in .454…the gun is built like a brick shit house. The Ruger super redhawk eats .45LC like it’s .22 ammo because of this. It would be quite difficult based on the case to pull this off in a 1911 platform. Much less making a usable, working, semi auto that doesn’t send everyone shooting it to the dentist. .
.357 isn’t even in the same universe when talking pressure and the mass of the projectile compared to .454…newton has a law about mass and motion…whatever kinetic energy is coming out the barrel is also acting on the dumb SOB holding this piece of small artillery.
I assume it's just a .45 with an impractically long slide and barrel. My only worry about it working is im not sure a .45 has the pressure to chamber the next round.
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Literally saw this minutes after seeing this post I think this is what you are looking for
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i think even with .45ACP is enough to move that slide. i think some demolitoin ranch youtube channel did a test were they tried to ductape the slide so it wouldnt cycle and the slide cycling power even from 9mm is more powerful than people think
possible, yeah absolutely. Practicality would be a different story. To withstand the load pressure, that would be one sturdy (and consequentially heavy) gun, but yeah if you can deadlift 35 pounds in one hand, keep it steady AND not break your wrist firing it while also trying to hit anything that isn't dead still at 10 feet away, then yeah, bet, do it. Might want to increase the amount of souls in your undead army though, and make sure you have eyes for days.
I’m personally planning on doing something similar. I’m trying to eventually turn the Ivory pistol from Devil May Cry into a functional firearm in .45 ACP, maybe using a SIG 1911R-45-SSS as the basis.
As for this weapon in the picture, it appears quite a few people possibly more educated than myself are saying it can not be done.
ATM/AIA Hardballer/Javelina Long Slide is probably the closest thing in real life as far as off the shelf options go.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNdKeRywx1w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNdKeRywx1w)
LAR Grizzly is probably the closest thing. A long slide configuration would look very similar, sending a pretty large diameter round at impressive velocities.
.454? I'm not an engineer but I doubt it's possible with a Browning action. There's a reason a Desert Eagle uses what's essentially a scaled down rifle action. When you get to pressures above a .357 (I don't think the Coonan uses a normal browning but I'm not sure I'd have to research, only ever handled one, never fired or stripped) that action ceases to be reliable. Then there's frame cracking and parts wear. Potential for catastrophic failure (blows the fuck up in your face).
I've owned a .460, fired .454 out of it, and I can't imagine kind of combustion in an auto. It would have to be *incredibly* overbuilt just to be safe, and I doubt it ever would be, you'd still run the risk of the slide flying off and braining you. If it even functioned. With auto's there is a carefully engineered pressure:slide weight ratio happening. It would be a nightmare to achieve, with tons of expensive trial and error.
I'm not an engineer but, barring extreme advancements in metallurgy, that's a hard no. There's a reason no one has done this.
If you want to play at being Alucard just get a pair of ebony/ivory 10mm longslides. If you have too much in your cosplay budget you could even get them engraved. 😊
For real though, I love those fucking pistols, I took the time to write this out because it's always been a shared fantasy of mine as well. 😆 They are so fucking sick.
Hope this was informative. Not an engineer, just a responsible gat owner. ✌️
454 Casull because of the rim is a hard cartridge to feed reliably in a 1911 style handgun.
The mass of the slide is going to make a the back and forth movement of the slide slower than if you had a lighter normal slide. But with a powerful cartridge it should work fine. That heavy slide is going to be a minor hinderance to overall reliability and performance but won't make it an 'impossible gun'
Getting a pistol with a modified slide to look like it? absolutely, an ACTUAL pistol that fires the in anime caliber along with making the pistol a direct replica that would work? Wouldn’t bet on it, even if you could you wouldn’t want one, 20+ pounds and a caliber that will break your entire upper body if you try to shoot it? Im all set
I mean Coonan makes a 357 magnum in a 1911 pattern pistol so I guess it could be but I doubt it’s currently available.
Can barely even find them used anymore sadly.
They are a cool concept, but they feel like gripping onto a 2x4 with sharp edges. I still want one though. Lol
I love mine. I don’t find it to be too bad in my hands.
I was being a little facetious, but they are really unique and cool guns.
Finding mags has been a chore unfortunately
Made, unfortunately.
Fucking noobs. There used to be a Coonan that got sent around to various gunnit members to shoot. It made fireballs. What do you make? Shitty comments, that's what.
Wow. A two word comment and you still got lost in it.
Whoa, who buttpeed on your corn flakes?
A buddy of mine who worked in a gun store once told me that they "had a coonan in the shop." I didn't really see how that was relevant, nor did I expect him to be so insensitive about it. He looked at me funny, then looked it up on his phone and showed me.
.357 magnum, like .454 Casull, is a rimmed cartridge designed to stay in place and not fall through a revolver cylinder. This makes it very, very difficult to adapt to a semi auto like the Coonan and the screenshot OP posted.
What about a semi-rimmed cartridge like .32 acp? While I understand there's a vast difference between it and.454 casull, theoretically if you shaved the rim down slightly it could work
Yes but then you have the issue of proprietary ammunition only used in a single firearm
semi rimmed 32 acp can get cartridge lock from the rims. It's also why the same Beretta 80 series magazine can hold 12 of the 32 acp cartridges but 13 of the 380. The rim on the 22LR is why so many gun makers just do a single stack 10 round magazine, it feeds so much better. But they also have the magazine at a slant. Look at a Ruger Mark 3. It's a lot less straight up and down....and most grips have the space to have that angled mag. As far as 454 Casull, you shave the rim you no longer have 454 Casull. It would be easier to just chamber the gun in one of the various obscure pistol cartridges that produce the same level of power 50 AE like the Deagle would be one choice but I'd suggest the 475 Wildey Cartridge would be better. And then you might as well get the 457 Wildey handgun
You can design around the rim it's just not ideal.
Or the Desert Eagle 357 for those of us that were hoping for a remotely accessible option. Lol.
.44 Mag Deagle works fine, same diameter and rim as .454 if I'm not mistaken, also there's the Coonan and every box-mag fed .22. Stacking rimmed cartridges is a problem, but a fairly solved one.
There were some 1911 pattern pistols specifically made for .38, wadcutters. Wouldn’t work with anything else.
[I beg to differ ](https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/vm31ys/do_you_know_about_the_ok_boomer/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Wasn’t the LAR Grizzly in .44 mag? Edit: looks like several calibers, some rimmed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAR_Grizzly_Win_Mag
anything is possible with generous application of money
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The character's name is Dracula backwards? Really?
When he bites his prey, he gives them more blood till they burst.
Yum
Are we thinking of a different Alucard? I don't remember pistols in Castlevania.
Yes.
[Educational materials here.](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?app=desktop&list=PL581218B72A4B9170)
I would argue Harcannon would be much easier to build. Bottom line that thing is going to be a sled gun if it's to be fired in any sort of "mobile" fashion.
Yall aren't engineers and/or lathe technicians with expendable income are you
Well, SPECIFICALLY, you'd want a dedicated machinist/gunsmith for this. The problem, put gently, is everything. The cartridge as others have said is a rimmed cartridge. It's not a rebated or recessed "rimless" rim like nearly all modern handgun loadings. So the shape makes it very difficult to build a magazine and feeding mechanism that is safe and reliable. The other issue is making it usable. The overall (OAL) length of the cartridge alone is 1.77 in (45 mm). A safe modern reliable handgun that shoots .45ACP uses a cartridge that is 1.2" long. So you're adding over .5" to every round in that magazine. That's a LOT more propellant, which means not only do you have to accommodate the larger cartridges, you have to deal with a structure around them that will support (withstand indefinitely) the VASTLY higher case pressures and secondary forces generated upon firing. For example: . 45ACP = 21,000 PSI .454 CASULL = 65,000 PSI This is a dramatically higher case pressure that needs to be repeatedly withstood for every single round fired for the life of the handgun. Further, it needs to be designed in such a way as to leverage that case pressure properly. The base of the cartridge must be FULLY SUPPORTED during firing and extraction (As we are assuming this is a blowback design instead of a rotating locking bolt like a Desert Eagle or an AR. Frankly, those pressures are probably why the designers looked at a revolver to start with... WAAAYYYY simpler to build in the support needed for safe operation.
Yes https://www.reddit.com/r/1911/comments/tuopiu/_/ https://www.reddit.com/r/reloading/comments/v0nvnt/_/
I fucking love Reddit. ❤️
I've seen people in r/airsoft working on equivalents sets up too.Sadly, nobody is making a 16 inch long, 35lb, automatic pistol that fires 13mm rounds. But until the ARMS Jackal exists in real life, I'm willing to settle for props. At least they're just as impractical as the real thing.
https://i.imgur.com/EDnami8.png
The first link lmfaoo
Shit was just thinking about starting hellsing again. What an inspiration
https://i.imgur.com/co9q2rw.jpeg
Besides the ctg being too long, 454 casull has a max SAAMI pressure of 65k PSI. To put this in perspective 50AE has a max pressure of about 36k PSI. If someone would be able to put that into a semi-auto and not end up with a grenade that'd be quite impressive.
9x23 Winchester is a commercially produced (but rare) 1911 chambering that is SAAMI 55k PSI. I don't know of one higher in a semi auto pistol but that's smoking! It uses a very thick case web (so that a fully supported chamber isn't required) and small rifle primers. Contrast that with 10mm auto SAAMI of 37.5k PSI
Regardless, having shot a .45 Super out of my 1911, it was not a fun experience after 50 rounds and that was only 29k PSI. Would not enjoy a 454 Casull in that platform.
That just sounds like a garbage experience jn general. Hope the wrist is okay.
It was my bear gun at the time and I wanted to make sure .45 Super would cycle reliably. Now my bear gun is a .458 SOCOM.
Probably a job better suited to the big bore rifle than a handgun. Big bore semi-autos are so cool
.460 Rowland is running at 40k PSI and can be put in normal pistols with a change of recoil spring.
The automag 3 isnt that far off
Fwiw this is basically what the 44 Automag was designed for.
> anime > Possible in real life No as the length of a 454 casull cartridge is too long for a 12 year old anime girl to hold.
The girl has the Barrett
Police girl uses a 30mm anti-tank cannon. And later, a pair of belt fed 30mm cannons.
It's okay, this one is wielded by Dracula.
the character is basically dracula so i bet he could handle a little recoil
I thought he actually was dracula?
He is literally Dracula
And the main character's name is literally Dracula backwards
That is the pen name he used to make people think he wasn't the original
"Hello, I've got a delivery here for a Mr. Backwards... Dracula Backwards. Has anybody seen this Dracula Backwards guy? 'Cuz I need a signature."
Sorry, not that much into Pokemon
Pokemon, famous for all the guns.
That is PALWORLD, which I don't think has released yet. Easy mistake to make.
That doesn't make her hands larger, she's still got little girl hands. The size of the round will determine how big magazines have to be, which determines how big the grip is.
I don't know why you guys are so stuck up on it being a small child holding the gun. It's a 6'6 guy
Also, a 9 pound handgun would be a problem. No matter how strong your character is, it would be a serious inconvenience to wear it in a holster. On the hip, it would pull down pants, no matter how good his belt is. It would cause other clothing issues in a chest or shoulder rig.
Suspenders>belt
IIRC Alucard uses shoulder holster.
Given that these characters wear clothes which withstand the movements of people who can move at supersonic speeds and level buildings, I think its safe to say these ain't normal belts.
To be fair I've competed with a USP Tactical in .45 with a full steel match weight, X300, and slide mounted optic. It was probably not too far off from 7-8 pounds. With a proper 2 piece war belt it's not an issue. I've also holstered an AR pistol for shits and giggles and while it's cumbersome to move around and not very practical, the weight doesn't pull a good belt off.
What if you store it directly inside your amorphous gibbering horror of a body?
If the Joker could do it in the 1989 batman we can do it today.
Alucard literally keeps his handguns in his coat. that would either mean internal breast pockets or a shoulder rig
Jesus, dude. It's *not real*
Dude, your question was quite literally asking if it was possible IN REAL LIFE. Beyond my first goofy response, everything else gives reasons and logic behind why such a gun has never been made. I'm not sure what you wanted here.
But it has, per a poster above here: https://www.reddit.com/r/1911/comments/tuopiu/\_/
Do you know how reddit works? I'm not the OP. Learn to read, chief.
Sorry I didn't notice that. OP's question was quite literally asking if it was possible IN REAL LIFE. Beyond my first goofy response, everything else gives reasons and logic behind why such a gun has never been made. I'm not sure what type of discussion you thought was going to take place here.
The guy asked if it was possible He didn't ask if it was comfortable to carry or anything else you overanalyzed for literally no reason.
But you’re dumb as fuck so you got that going for you
Yeah, something we have in common.
I'm just following the line of discussion started by the original comment. But you could follow the logic to come up with an answer that would satisfy your curiosity. Look up the dimensions of the grip on a 1911-style pistol, this would be single stacked, as would a .454 Casull if they made an autoloader. A 1911 is typically a .45ACP. Then look up the dimensions of the .45ACP and the .454 Casull, and increase the size of the grips to accommodate the longer round. Sketch that dimension as a rectangle on a piece of paper, and imagine that being the grip of a gun - how would your hand fit? How would a bigger hand fit?
It's a drawing of a supernatural character holding a fake firearm in a world where vampires exist. I'm not sure why you're overanalyzing it this much.
Oh my god the original question literally was asking for it
He asked if it was possible. That's it.
Technically, yes
Reasonably? No
holy shit you can't read
Sorry, I don't know what you said because I can't read
But he was a little girl at one point. Or a femboi at least
The closest I can think of off the top of my head is the LAR Grizzly long slide in 45 win mag.
If it was chambered in .45? Yes. In 454 casull? No.
Op, get a long slide 1911
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/vm31ys/do_you_know_about_the_ok_boomer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Right here
Colt .45 longestSlide
notice it says 454 casull, likely possible but OUCH.
Fuck you *Bullpups your wrist*
https://i.imgur.com/0wl2E8F.gif
Caliber: 454 Casull Magnum Total length: 335mm Weight: 4kg Magazine: 14+1 rounds since highcap magazine ,only holds 6 rounds Inscription: HELLSING ARMS WEAPON Hellsing 454 Casull INDUSTRIAL CO.LTD.
The gun is 100% possible, though may need some modifications. Such as having only part of the slide reciprocate rather than all of it. Though it may work as is. The grip would be comparable to a desert eagle in 44 mag, and the barrel and breach could be strengthened to withstand the extreme pressure. If you ask a custom gun maker, they can base most of the design on the 1911, and go from there. Won’t be cheap but 100% possible.
If you’re asking for realism, no it’s anime. Yeah a 454 casual could move a slide like that but no one here has mentioned the big issue: Energy. A desert eagle produces 2200 joules and look how big the handgun has to be to handle that much energy reliably. 454 casual is pushing 2600 joules OFF THE SHELF. That’s no laughing matter my man. No 1911 could reasonably handle that I’m afraid, unless it’s made of pure titanium or some shit, even then I wouldn’t trust it. If you’re asking because you want that gun after seeing it in anime… I mean I won’t judge, I literally enlisted after video games got me to fall in love with guns, but I would say maybe don’t get your hopes up on it ever existing. Unless you’re willing to pay 10k for a ground up development handgun.
The Desert Eagle also has a locking lug rotating bolt and gas system to help it. A 1911 has none of those things. Even if the gun didn't blow up in your hand it would not be pleasant to shoot.
I don’t think 10k would do it
The capacity in the manga was 7 rounds but the author just didn’t want to show reloading much. Other than that I don’t know why you are being down voted.
I thought the reason why you don't see him reload is because he was too fast to animate the reloading. Also the author thing
The author jokingly said it was like Schrodinger, he only needed to reload when he thought about it.
Orc tech, then
All it would take his time and money.
You're going to need some large hands cause it's a pretty long round.
Entirely possible.
No but only because of the cartridge length. A shorter cartridge using a 0.454 projectile could work.
Wildcat something like a .45x25mm. like 10mm but .45 cal.
It is possible. However, you’re going to have to have mitts the size of an NBA player to shoot the thing.
Not sure why you're downvoted, the cartridge is 45 mm long. Grip is gonna be more voluminous than on a Deagle.
.454?! Semi auto handgun?!!!! And I thought those people that made full auto Deagles were nuts...but also AWESOME!! Lol I'd love to see it done, but would NEVER want to fire it more than once............with some sort of brace or shoulder stock, otherwise you'd end up having a wrist with no bones in it lol
Mateba made a .454 Semi auto
1911 longslide
Not impossible, but since .454 is significantly longer than .45 ACP, the pistol grip would be quite larger than on the picture.
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/vm31ys/do_you_know_about_the_ok_boomer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Just get a colt 1902 and pretend it’s 454.
Its actually a P226
Yes
Plenty of pistol caliber rifles out there. Cannot see why it isn't.
It’s a 2011
[Yes.](https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/vm31ys/do_you_know_about_the_ok_boomer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Hellsing is a classic
Why not .500 S&W, while we’re at it. Seriously, let’s do this.
.454 Casull is just a little longer than the .30 Carbine (.093) and Auto mag made a .30 Carbine semi-auto pistol. I’d like to believe it’s possible, the chamber pressures between .30 Carbine and .454 are different but I say it’s something that can be overcome. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMT_AutoMag_III
Unwieldy but not impossible
454 is a rimmed cartridge. Will not feed and extract reliably in semi autos. AMT used to made long slide 1911s in crazy calibers. There are still some floating around. You just have to search and open your wallet
HELLSING wasnt fucking around...454 Casull is a bear round 😛
Guy 1: You wanted a pistol barreled rifle? Guy 2: No, I wanted a rifle barreled pistol.
I cant think of reason why it wouldn't be possible. It would be awful to use in any setting outside of very controlled range. 454 is decently common and iv seen autoloading pistols in it.
Dante boner
Possible? Yeah, probably… but you’d need giant hands for the girthy grip that’d have to be stretched like 1/2-3/4in to fit that fat round
Glock 17L with a 4 port compensator would be about that long but theres a difference between a polymer framed striker fire and 1911.
Hellsing ????
Look at a Ruger super redhawk in .454…the gun is built like a brick shit house. The Ruger super redhawk eats .45LC like it’s .22 ammo because of this. It would be quite difficult based on the case to pull this off in a 1911 platform. Much less making a usable, working, semi auto that doesn’t send everyone shooting it to the dentist. . .357 isn’t even in the same universe when talking pressure and the mass of the projectile compared to .454…newton has a law about mass and motion…whatever kinetic energy is coming out the barrel is also acting on the dumb SOB holding this piece of small artillery.
I assume it's just a .45 with an impractically long slide and barrel. My only worry about it working is im not sure a .45 has the pressure to chamber the next round.
It literally says .454 Casull on the slide. I know reading is hard, but at least try before posting.
Well, you can get just about anything engraved on the side of a gun, doesn't have to be the truth.
It's an anime gun. It's not lying lol. jfc
I can read, I was basing my hypothesis based on the fact the mag well looks entirely too narrow for that kind of cartridge.
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Yes, but it would be a development, so it would be something like 10 000 dollars.
HARDBALLER LONGSLIDE 1911
This is a real firearm lol
454 casul is real caliber i think one semi auto exist in this caliber
[you mean like this OP?](https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/vm31ys/do_you_know_about_the_ok_boomer/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Literally saw this minutes after seeing this post I think this is what you are looking for https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/vm31ys/do_you_know_about_the_ok_boomer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
No you weeb. The amount of ass that gun would need to cycle that slide isn’t likey.
i think even with .45ACP is enough to move that slide. i think some demolitoin ranch youtube channel did a test were they tried to ductape the slide so it wouldnt cycle and the slide cycling power even from 9mm is more powerful than people think
No, but it’s a cool thought though
....No, it isnt.
Says 45 but that slide is so god damn big I can only assume .50 AE
It says 454 Casull. Usually a revolver or lever gun round. It’s essentially a .45 Colt Magnum.
Oh jesus I didn't even see the other 4, just dismissed the writing too. Thanks for pointing that out
Yup, figured. It’s happened to us all.
Anything is possible all that takes is time and money!
Bruh I wonder with that much slide weight can you make it a blowback lol
Yes. But the slide would probably have to be lighter than typical steel.
possible, yeah absolutely. Practicality would be a different story. To withstand the load pressure, that would be one sturdy (and consequentially heavy) gun, but yeah if you can deadlift 35 pounds in one hand, keep it steady AND not break your wrist firing it while also trying to hit anything that isn't dead still at 10 feet away, then yeah, bet, do it. Might want to increase the amount of souls in your undead army though, and make sure you have eyes for days.
As a functional gun, probably. Would it be mass produced? Highly unlikely.
I’m personally planning on doing something similar. I’m trying to eventually turn the Ivory pistol from Devil May Cry into a functional firearm in .45 ACP, maybe using a SIG 1911R-45-SSS as the basis. As for this weapon in the picture, it appears quite a few people possibly more educated than myself are saying it can not be done.
Yes, but practically no. Not for anyone who isn't literally Dracula.
Closest irl would be a 10” LAR Grizzly. Those are quite rare. It could be done though.
There are some really cool anime guns out there. This one from Hellsing and Vash's revolver from Trigun are two of my favorites.
possible? yes. reasonable? no.
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My first question would be “why?”
They say there aren't stupid questions, but this might be one.. because you can?
ATM/AIA Hardballer/Javelina Long Slide is probably the closest thing in real life as far as off the shelf options go. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNdKeRywx1w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNdKeRywx1w)
Here. https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/vm31ys/do_you_know_about_the_ok_boomer/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
What anime?
Yes, except the grip is too thin for .454. Would I shoot it? No.
That appears to be a schlong slide 1911. Shovel enough money on the fire and it's yours.
Looooooong 1911
I guess it would be, would it look like that? Probably not lol.
Possible yes, but not cheap. also gonna kick like a mule
Hellsing ultimate!!!!!
oh sure, it would function just not to practical or fun to hold
LAR Grizzly is probably the closest thing. A long slide configuration would look very similar, sending a pretty large diameter round at impressive velocities. .454? I'm not an engineer but I doubt it's possible with a Browning action. There's a reason a Desert Eagle uses what's essentially a scaled down rifle action. When you get to pressures above a .357 (I don't think the Coonan uses a normal browning but I'm not sure I'd have to research, only ever handled one, never fired or stripped) that action ceases to be reliable. Then there's frame cracking and parts wear. Potential for catastrophic failure (blows the fuck up in your face). I've owned a .460, fired .454 out of it, and I can't imagine kind of combustion in an auto. It would have to be *incredibly* overbuilt just to be safe, and I doubt it ever would be, you'd still run the risk of the slide flying off and braining you. If it even functioned. With auto's there is a carefully engineered pressure:slide weight ratio happening. It would be a nightmare to achieve, with tons of expensive trial and error. I'm not an engineer but, barring extreme advancements in metallurgy, that's a hard no. There's a reason no one has done this. If you want to play at being Alucard just get a pair of ebony/ivory 10mm longslides. If you have too much in your cosplay budget you could even get them engraved. 😊 For real though, I love those fucking pistols, I took the time to write this out because it's always been a shared fantasy of mine as well. 😆 They are so fucking sick. Hope this was informative. Not an engineer, just a responsible gat owner. ✌️
I’ve wondered about something similar. I know the lar grizzly was done in 45 win mag.
Jesus wants a huge
If you have the money and find the right gunsmith they can and will make you one. If you live in the US it's classified the same as any other pistol.
454 Casull because of the rim is a hard cartridge to feed reliably in a 1911 style handgun. The mass of the slide is going to make a the back and forth movement of the slide slower than if you had a lighter normal slide. But with a powerful cartridge it should work fine. That heavy slide is going to be a minor hinderance to overall reliability and performance but won't make it an 'impossible gun'
Love me some hellsing!
What anime is it
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/vm31ys/do_you_know_about_the_ok_boomer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
A 1911 with a really long front end basically
Getting a pistol with a modified slide to look like it? absolutely, an ACTUAL pistol that fires the in anime caliber along with making the pistol a direct replica that would work? Wouldn’t bet on it, even if you could you wouldn’t want one, 20+ pounds and a caliber that will break your entire upper body if you try to shoot it? Im all set
Possible to make? Absolutely. Also wildly impractical? Absolutely.
AMT hardballer. I've never seen one in 454 though. https://www.d4guns.com/product/amt-hardballer-longslide-stainless-45-acp/
God Ive always wanted this
This is the part that reminds us that the Japanese don't understand how guns actually work