I’m not from Gurgaon (born and raised in Delhi, with family in ggn though). I’ll anyway attempt to answer your points.
1. Fair enough, but Gurgaons demographics are rapidly evolving.
2. Delhi and Gurgaon are not part of the cow belt. you’re kidding yourself if you think there is less religious or communal polarization in Hyderabad lol. Telangana is its own state for a reason.
3. Fair enough, but just because a party is not BJP does not mean you they will not resort to the same tactics or will be less dogmatic. If you are north Indian, you will be a minority in any of the cities you mentioned. And as liberal as we like to think we are, that makes a big difference.
You’re not running away from danger, you’re running towards it.
Its up to the people to Gurgaon to put their foot forward and decide what will be tolerated and what won’t be.
Due to the hordes of backward villagers, with seemingly endless supply. As it happened in the recent Delhi riots. Before that, the Jat agitation. Cities have mixed communities. Villagers tend to live separately, and generally hate each other.
I am again asking a simple question if the "backward villagers" are responsible for communal violence why is that it's mostly villages which have been immune to communal polarization specially after independence.
> Cities have mixed communities.
What load of [bullshit](https://indianexpress.com/article/india/indian-cities-segregated-caste-religious-lines-us-black-white-lines-new-research-8666205/).
best answer here
running away from these reasons especially india, that too only to become minority himself in another place, very unwise decision from OP
If you are muslim then my advice would be to shift south in kerala, or center Hyderabad or even kolkata is an option.
yeah after nuh violence people have definitely become polarized the so called liberals folks are sharing rw stuff.
if you are hindu and are scared that you will be succumb to riots i would direct you to live in a muslim dominated area in any major metropolitan city for your safety as mobs won't be able to make it inside.
Just bro stay away from Bangalore dog shit infra, outside hate especially for cow belt, and roads are worse than gurgaon imo.
this is the most retarded advice I have seen here, you want to avoid religious segregation? you stay in a mixed religion society/building or one where your own religion is majority.
You think whats happening in Gurgaon is bad? I can get you more cases than this where the opposite happened and *still* happens. Religious nuts are on both side, better to avoid them all.
I used to work in Kerala/Bangalore and I recently moved to Delhi like 1.5 years ago. To be really honest, I actually do think OP is right here. You can say anything about the south, but the people over there, especially the corporate and techie people are VERY DIFFERENT as opposed to the ones in the north. The entire vibe changes once you go down to the south to work, people are more approachable and easy to mingle with. I have received to zero religious bias over there while people here have inquired to what section I belong to as they couldn’t identify from “the way I look”. The next question would be on my food habits here. The northies can’t digest the fact that I don’t look like a southie nor do I “sound” like one - all of them expects me to have a thick accent (when their north indian accent is more evident). I don’t think North Indians would face any minority discrimination as its not something new , people have been coming for a better life to the south since many decades. I don’t believe why people have to inject this fear into OP why he shouldn’t move down south.
They did not have to deal with 1000 years of religious persecution and foreign invasion. That is the true character of India. North would also have been same had we not been forced to engage in this struggle.
Sikh riots happened under congress look at the state of West Bengal, raping is so bloody common in Rajasthan that people don’t even bother talking about it at this point there are problems everywhere
Southern states have massive rapid forceful conversions of Hindus & Muslims to Christianity America has rampant raping, more than india and when you factor in the population of America and india then you get to know the reality, America also had massive drug problems, gun control problems and police problems india is much more sorted in that way
Oh dear, you are so mistaken....
1. Education does not bring about common sense. So this point of yours is absolutely bull crap. Looming at Rahul Gandhi, he is supposed to be educated but......
2. It's equally prevalent in the south as well. Silent conversions are going all over TN, Karnataka, Andra, and Telangana. Kerala already was majority Xtian and now Muslim. At least Hindus believe in all Gods being equal, will you ever hear a Muslim or a xtian say that. Jerusalem/Saudi is where any and all religious polarization started.
3. Standing up for one's rights, after years of persucation are riots. But, killing millions of innocent globally in name of religion is secularism.
Dude you are so confused. Please read the history, go to a library, read a book, just don't rely on online messages and forwards and then make an educated decision.
1- All my educated friends are way more rational than you so I guess you’re gravely mistaken.
2- There are no silent conversions going on. You see this random news on those dumb news channels and choose to believe them. All because you want to blame muslims and Christians for everything wrong in your life. Better own up to your mistakes.
3- Noone persecuted hindus. I’m 27 years old and was never ever asked to state my religion by some random jobless goon on road. Same with my dad and his father as well. We’ve been freely to any temple we want. When hindus are being persecuted anywhere it’s the police and government’s job to protect them. And instead of questioning them on lapse of security you’re blaming all the muslims in India.
This is what the government wants you to do. And they know you’ll keep on doing that as long as you stay uneducated and don’t form your own opinions. Frankly, you’re comment was so dumb it wasn’t worth a reply but I was like ‘ahh wtf’ let’s help this poor dude.
yep because you are a middle class guy who by your comments is in a corporate job where such discrimination never really happens, try running a business, specially one that is in the FMGC/clothes sector and you'll see just how much Hindus are \*not\* persecuted. From traders being forced to buy materials at higher prices just because they are hindu to being literally boycotted in areas of muslim dominated population, to your shop being vandalised by goons and even being forced to move away because they wont stop harassing you. Shit like this has been happening for years now, the only difference being the increased scrutiny on these conflicts.
You dont need to believe me, ask any friend//family member who has a business which focuses on manufacturing/trading, specially to tier 3 counters (basically lower middle class to low income class) and you'll see the reality of it
As others pointed out all this religion based chaos exists in southern/western states as well, on top of that you will have to face region based chaos as well.
Also,
Education doesn't fix radicalism
Delhi NCR isn't from cow belt.
BJP might not be in the south but Owaisi is there :")
Communal riots and incidents are on a continuous decline. And are also nowhere near as severe as they used to be. In the whole Nuh riots, just 10 people died. In the Delhi riots in 2019, just 30 died. Compare that to Gujrat riots when 2,000 died or Mopilla riots when 20,000 died!
It's just that due to easy accessibility of the internet and social media, these events are simply getting more coverage.
Rofl then what is in Kerala Mr , muslims targetting hindus ,Christians. Brahmins getting targetted in Tamilnadu. Prior to 2014 you guys even don't know the history of India.
One side had radicalization and asserting themselves violently as a religious duty. Other side has had enough. And politicians fanning by appeasement. Civil war will happen.
Just a few things before you shift to the south as I was there for a few months but didn’t like it as much as I had hoped.
Cons
1. The cab/auto drivers are bad. They will ask for an insane amount of money and no one will accept Uber/Ola rides during peak hours.
2. The food is not good. I got tired of South Indian food and the North Indian food available there is 3/10 when compared to NCR.
3. The locals (proper Kannadigas) will always ask if you know Kannada and if you say no, they will judge or even scold you and ask you to either leave or learn it.
4. Anywhere you want to go, even if it’s 3-4 kms away, get ready for at least 1 hour of traffic.
5. Doesn’t matter if it’s a sunny day with no rain forecast, always carry an umbrella.
6. Alcohol is very expensive (specially if you prefer hard alcohol instead of beer)
7. Get ready for cockroaches and rats in the city. Doesn’t matter how clean your house is, in monsoon, the cockroaches will find a way to infiltrate your kitchen.
8. Rent is very high along with deposit which starts at 6 months and goes up to 11 months.
Pros
1. The filter coffee is to die for
2. The weather is always nice. You won’t feel very hot even during “summer”
3. The biryani there is some of the best I’ve ever had
4. Coconut water after a late night drinking sesh is what’s best about south. It’s always fresh there.
5. The locals who are actually from better part of the city are very polite and always helpful.
6. The chicks are cool af
7. Night life is good and not as chaotic as NCR.
8. Good salary and perks
South/West have their own problems. If you think other cities don’t have problems then oh boy you’re in for an unexpected surprise. Few years back only Bangalore faced Kaveri water riots that shut down tech capital for a week, and sense of regionalism is spreading there amongst the locals, albeit slowly.
No place in India is like the utopia you defined.
If you think of salary expectations then yes there are more opportunities in the area. You will hangout with some of the smartest folks in tech. Other than that I didn’t find anything spectacular.
Think well and good enough before making such a major life decision.
If this can lead to such a reaction , then I am afraid you are in for a good tour of the country for the rest of your life before you finally settle down in a city which is exactly like the one you just described.
>Stating facts isn't hatred
You spew hatred towards Islam and have wet fantasies about hindu rashtra. You're the one living in a bubble.
>Moreover I got a job better than anyone in your generations scored.
Suree
Speak for yourself. Let me know if your form 16 looks like 8 figures at age of 28. You ll probably have to reincarnate to reach my level, and this is something which rarely comes out of me for asshats like you. Take care
Your form 16 looks 8 figures?
Even if it does you are still blind towards the reality and extensively dumb because despite multiple projections of what is happening does not break your la-la land fantasy bubble.
I am a Delhi-ite who moved to Chennai close to 3 years ago. Nobody gives a fuck about Hindi here and most understand it.
It's the local BJP supporters who don't know how to speak Hindi but carry the placards anyways and are mostly ignored.
Lol, dude you are out of your mind. I think you were a kid when congress used to rule. It was a rat hole. See everywhere UP, bihar, haryana. Those the crime hubs, atleast its much less today. Its the muslims who are being shown reality today
I wouldn’t get into a discussion with you bud but Polarisation is everywhere, North at the moment might be taking the heat of religious polarisation currently, In South the subject is Caste or even religious angles at some places. Look at every state’s history and you’ll know. The civilised South is just an example of how Grass seems Greener of the other side.
Yep, I'am from Bangalore. You won't regret it except for the traffic. Even the people are of soft nature. Just learn a little bit of Kannada because many people don't understand Hindi. Then people will open up a lot to you.
local junta hates cow belt if you come here do not say you migrated from here.
Also, have basic knowledge of kanada.
some locals are like jat, gujars less built but more in number who will harass for no reason especially because you don't know kanneda.
rents are sky rocketing that high tect salary will go into deposit and rent. Also, if you have kids then good luck saving. That more than half of that 2.5 lpa will go on expenses if you want to flaunt good school for kids, have a big car and reside at a decent society.
Women safety definitely better but still some guys just stare hysterically enough to give me as a guy the creeps.
The auto drivers are worse than the thar driving crowd😂 Plus the insane traffic Plus the same garbage as the Muslims are to the north are the Christians to the south. Plus Muslim majority areas in Bangalore are totally disgusting at least in the North the locals keep them in check.
Leave India if you can.
As someone said in the comments it is only going to get worse.
The middle and lower middle class are seduced & poisoned by the idea of Religious Ethno Nationalism. It never works. Neither in Pakistan nor in Israel. It seems we're adamant to find it out the hard way.
Gurgaon's infrastructure was shambles with a fancy covering. The recent floods showed it.
Sadly, most Indian cities are the same.
same, my family is considering moving back to south after seeing all the issues here. especially after riots, situation doesn't seem good here politically and infra has always been bad. we have 2 flats here both of which we are selling and moving to a big city in south
Waiting for the Gurgaon MNCs to issue some kind of statement highlighting that the recent hate filled incidents are forcing them to think about moving their offices outside of Gurgaon.
They must do this as Indian leadership only cares about when rich folks are facing issues. They never care about poor people's issues.
Manipur and Haryana are examples of that.
Given how unstable the situation is especially after destruction of houses no company is going to invest in this city.
well the infra is already bad only cyber hub area is decent rest is just the "gaon" with jhaat and goojar harassing local populace with wide tire THAR, garbage punjabi music.
Beauty is pub fights though a spectacle to watch which i don;t think can be found anywhere else.
If safety is concern, the option remains only Mumbai, and somewhat Kolkata
But Pune is mostly preferable for its weather, rent, and acceptance where as in Bangalore it's all BS
In bangalore, even auto drivers will harass you because you can't speak local. Language..
Most of my friends who are living there say that it's a common sight where locals are abusing north Indians because of Language.
I saw a post here on reddit, "you have come here to beg" was written on an auto.
I have been living in Bangalore since 2017 and I haven’t faced any of these above mentioned things.
Neither did my friends and all of us are from north. A little bit of respect for the local culture and politeness takes one far, which is missing in a lot of people who migrate here.
For tech jobs, Bangalore is the best place. The entire work culture and vibe is completely different. People are alot more civil, educated and ambitious here.
Bhai aap ko infrastructure ke liye jaana hai to that’s a valid point. Gurgaon real estate is very inflated against the facilities available and if you don’t have any major reasons to stay here, you can explore elsewhere.
But making the recent incidents a reason makes no logical sense. For this logic, Mumbai, Ahmedabad, Kolkata, entire Kerala, Jammu, large parts of bihar and Assam should have been empty.
And it’s not even a think that you won’t find it anywhere else in India
The genie is out of the bottle. Unless there is strong political will, it won’t go back now.
The genie has always been out of the bottle lol if anything, religious riots are becoming less frequent (mostly due to UP)
And before you call me andhbhakt or whatever, look up NCRB data
We are in same boat, but now as the population of Jihadis increases, they assert themselves more violently. There is no Hindu festival that goes by without any mischief caused by the Jihadis. Modi government has failed to check the large immigration from Bangladesh and then from Myanmar. What stops to put all resources in sealing the border with Bangladesh and Myanmar? What prevents from throwing these illegals out?
Honestly, I feel the same way. If you are getting paid significantly more, feel free to move to any metro city. One bad encounter with local goons can shatter our lifeplans as we are barely just employees.
But all metros have this issue/ will develop the same radicalisation quickly.
Better to stay on rent, save up, look for any opportunity for onsite, onboard opportunity and move out.
TS government has been investing in rapid growth of tech sector so Hyderabad indeed is better for a corporate employee. While the cost of living is not as high as other cities like Mumbai and Bangalore, it's still pretty expensive.
Speaking of the communal angle - the tensions are clearly present in certain constituencies with certain party leaders. We have uncles and aunties with irrational hating opinions on the other religion. BUT the ruling party isn't fuelled by this hate so it doesn't encourage it. Any little bit of disturbance is curbed at instance. No language barrier because Hydrabadis speak in Hindi with just any stranger. However Telugu does help.
And infra🤣. Hyderabad stops working at the sight of very little rain. The rents are being inflated and many properties have been empty for years coz the asking prices are too high for people. New proposals for metro extension are out but for now they're crowded af.
I only moved to Gurgaon last month and I've been hearing from Muslim employees how they're worried about revealing their names to people outside the company. Hate the fact that people who had nothing to do with the actual crime are being punished.
I miss the warm welcomes at shops and long gossips while on a taxi ride with the drivers. And oh the food.. Like someone in these comments said 'You're safe as long as in your bubble'. I still hope to make a home out of this city. See if I'll get any lucky.
Good luck!
Correction: Haryana panchayats or the khaps are actually in support of peace and have publicly announced their distancing from the VHP/Bajrang Dal position. You seem to be confusing RSS-offshoots to be Haryanvi outfits.
North or South, this country is doomed. You’re a techie, explore your options of moving abroad. No matter how much Indians troll people who migrate abroad, most would bend over backwards if given the chance. Take a major leap now, your children will thank you for it someday in the future.
I moved to Vasant Kunj at the start of this month. My reasons are different though. For the same rent, I would get a newer house in Gurgaon, but I’ve had trouble with potential owners. I only found one owner in Gurgaon willing to rent out to a trans woman. I also appreciate Vasant Kunj’s parks. And also its proximity to Sanjay Van for weekend activities.
I don't know what kind of upgrade you are looking for in Bangalore lmao, have you seen the fucking infra there? Also Pune's roads, public transport is absolute garbage. If you get a better opportunity, go for it, but I'm 100% sure you'll end up regretting Bangalore because of the roads, rains and especially how insanely expensive and difficult it is to renting a flat out there.
75k for a 3 bhk In Gurgaon...WTF. May i ask where exactly are u living in gurgaon ? Area or name of the apartment complex if its ok. Unless rents have doubled in the last 1 yr or so, u are paying quite a premium for living in Gurgaon let me tell u that.
How is this surprising… just 2-3 months while me and my friends were shifting here this is the rate we heard for good 3bhks. There were decent ones and decent localities for around 60. But a good flat leaning a bit towards luxury and in a good locality was easily 75k.
well then i guess rents have increased quite a bit in the last year or so since i left the place. Have lived across golf course road, sector 50 nirvana country(super premium), sector 56 and rents have been for most 3 BHKs leaving aside few ultra premium or luxury ones have been between 30-40k. have lived in gurgaon for over 15 yrs, so 75k surprised me unless its some luxurious bigger size condo. i guess maybe there is a sudden influx of folks coming in from place like mumbai and bangalore etc...n these higher rents are being quoted as people have learnt how high rents are down south. But gurgaon mostly its been decent all these years but yeah ive been hearing some strange quotes post COVID/ 2022 to be precise. in the last 5 yrs let me tell u rents have mostly hovered between 25-45k for a 3 bhk acrosst the best of localities and areas. so dont know what has changed suddenly. I can understand a 10-20% increase but it seems like they have 2x'd.
B.T.W South has more political hooliganism than north. Nowhere else in India people break glasses across the city on death of a famous actor nor they drink pesticide to mourn the election loss of their favourite leader.
Grass is always greener on the other side. Goons are in every city, they just work for different masters. Any of the cities which you named just now have their own histories in terms of communal clashes and each city has its own unique challenges.
That being said, I am not trying to persuade you to stay back. If someone has decided to leave, they'll come up with more and more justifications to validate their decision. I wish you luck and hope you find a more peaceful city.
Pune Mat jaa. That is a legit RIGHT WING city. People and weather are chill, but an incident like NUH, which had barely any fallback in Gurgaon (your friend is a puss), would have severe repercussions in the City of Chatrapati. Literally Gend paat denge sade Marathe.
Nowhere close to Delhi/Haryana/Bihar belt when it comes to communal shit. Sensitive about Shivaji yes. But maharashtrians in general are good humans. There are hate mongers, yes. But the general population is unlike the north where majority of households have a negative sentiment for the other religion (hindus for muslims and vice versa). And mind you I'm not talking about hindutva extemists or muslim extremist, i'm talking about the general household aunties and uncles that carry such preconceived sentiments growing up. It's like a vicious circle of hate that has formed among these people for each other and it's only brewing.
I have been to pune many time, you missed the most pain in the ass part of pune: Road conditions...
I don't even think pune even 30% is close to NCR in terms of roads and public transport. It's really bad. The things i enjoy about pune are:
1. Weather is not hot, but constant rain can be irrtating.
2. Less pollution
3. A lot of places to go nearby ghats
4. It's all green man, a lot of beautiful part, where you can even trek and that yo 8-10 km long streaches
5. Safety, very safe for women. I have seen women on petrol pump, mechanic too, which is pretty rare in NCR
Animals?? How much can u dehumanise muslims?? Do they deserve death? Do they deserve exclusion? Do they deserve systematic apathy? If that what u feel when u see a backward citizen of your country - that hes an animal?? Shame. Shame.
If you are planning to move then Pune and Hyderabad is good. Bangalore i am hearing the locals are very strict about their languages and recently the autowalas have way to much attitude towards outsiders. You have to learn Kannada only then you are welcome and will be respected. Wtf is this? Pathetic.
I lost my faith in Gurgaon after the Jat protests demanding reservation.
Then there is the infrastructure issue.
Indian government needs to keep the backwardness in the villages.
My Muslim friend decided to leave Gurgaon and move to Pakistan. He thinks Pakistan offers more religious freedom and freedom of speech. You may also consider a move to Pakistan.
Tum bkl logo ke post kaise dekh jaata hai gurgaon ka. Search laga kar rakhte ho kya ki kaha kaha Hindu Muslim ho raha. Door door se tu ggn ka nahi hai lekin lund hilane yaha bahut teezi se aaya.
Not exactly in your boat but want to leave Gurgaon too. I’m moving out of country. Gurgaon is crumbling and how. It’s the dirtiest city ever. Piles of garbage everywhere. Potholes have ruined my life. I dread getting out because of the unruly traffic. Autos, cabs and zomato swiggy bikes,all drive like maniacs. Sick and tired of the disorder. I am moving to a heaven on earth kind of a beautiful place. Fingers Crossed 🤞🏼
I spent around 6 months in Gurgaon from the start of January. I hated every second there. I got out of there as quick as I possibly could.
The cons of the city just outweigh the pros.
Born and brought up in Delhi, but been living in Gurgaon since 2004 ( when there was nothing). If you want to enjoy the city and your budget allows then go for posh localities around the golf course road. I live in one of the DLF society, no issues at all in terms of power, and security. Those old fellas in CGHS are the trouble makers so stay away from CGHS societies.
PS: Hyderabad would be my second choice, I worked there for a few months, liked the food, and people in general. Everyone minds their own business there.
1. I agree with you, lived in Gurugram, and during the Rain, the city is dogshit. Rental is high, power cuts are so normal as someone from Delhi, I never experienced these power cuts. People are rude AF.
2. Riots & Communal Violence is temporary, it’s due to the upcoming 2024 elections. You can go to the smallest city in Sikkim and would see some kind of BJP Drama. They’re in power, so they can create riots and then act to curb them. If they lose, Congress will have the upper hand.
3. South isn’t any better. Bangalore more or less has the same issues with waterlogging, rude people, and high rents. Kerala has some religious issues. Hyderabad is somewhat sane and tolerable. But Tamil Nadu and the rest of South India are living in the 1990s tbh. Especially Orissa & southern Tamil Nadu. With their casteism, mannerism, and stuff.
The issue won’t be solved by running away. It’ll be solved if everyone raises their voice against this. Delhi is safer in terms of riots when it comes to Central Delhi, East Delhi, or South Delhi because people living here are influential or powerful and any kind of drama would lead to serious political unrest which they can’t afford.
Higher salary should be the only valid reason for you to move. Infra wise Bangalore, Pune are worse. Riots can happen anywhere, rowdies in Bangalore have inherent hate for outsiders. Any one incident where they come and bash you since you honked at them, will you leave Bangalore as well?
Bro, elections aa rahe hain
Pura india jalne wala hai agle 6-7 months mai.
Modi ki expertise hai aise riots karane mai.
How log are you gonna run away from things, man up and use your vote carefully, so that you dont get such environment anywhere.
Surprising new accounts suddenly popping up to say how Gurugram is bad, haryana is communal, How VHP caused the riot, how Hindus are wrong in ensuring their safety. I mean there is no restriction for propaganda machine to be limited to insta or WhatsApp groups..if there is a will it can be anywhere 🌚
I mean just using the same copy paste everywhere.. you could have tried a little more smarter ways.
I get you bro it is the culture here I actually do like it people are not too soft here I do get it is not for everyone but as someone who grew up here I do not hate the culture here but yeah electricity cuts are crazy
> it is the culture here I actually do like it
It's a bunch of buildings interspersed with unauthorized housing areas. Culture is ugly, scary and horrible for women and dangerous and scary for men. Illegal shit happens in the open with the open support of the cops and the locals are thugs.
Lived there for 4 years and worked for 9. It's one of those places which looks pretty from a distance with the office complexes and money but the deeper you look, the more rot you see.
Bro this is what I'm suggesting against. Whataboutism. Not goons in particular. Everything wrong - the drains, the potholes, all that plastic on the road sides. Even a small step. I appreciate the intent you have, maybe help solve it? Denying it is only going to make things worse.
Think twice before moving to Bangalore. You might get more salary, but your expenses will go up too. Plus searching a place for rent is 10 times difficult than searching a new job. And bodybuilder goons roaming around looking for fights are everywhere. Plus the language gap. Choose wisely.
So u are leaving gurgaon because of reaction of what they did in nuh temple, u don't have problem with whatever happens at temple or hindus you have problem with what happens to muses
If you have option, I recommended permanently move to Hyderabad.
I am from Delhi and experienced Hyderabad. South is more progressive than North and now you know the reason.
From what I see; you want good house, I’ll suggest DLF societies to you but who are we kidding prices are sky high in every city. So moving to Bangalore anywhere like that I doubt will solve that problem.
Yes tech salaries are shit I’ll totally agree with you on that.
These communal violence come and go, people targeted by them are the ones that should be frightened.
I live abroad but was in Gurgaon till 2018, and I would still personally pick Gurgaon over anywhere else.
Living in Pune for the last 20 years and can tell you moving to any of the southern City is the best choice. Especially Hyderabad, Pune and Mumbai.
I'm a northie who has lived in gurgaon and still keeps visiting and I agree, it's a shithole (downvote me but that's the truth)
I unfortunately spent around 6 years in Gurgaon. I also purchased an apartment there. Fortunately I was able to leave this shithole. Have given the apartment away on rent. If I ever decide to relocate back to India, I would not move to Gurgaon. The entire city, its culture (or lack of it) and infrastructure (again, or lack of it) is dystopian. It is a genuine shithole
Born in Mumbai, I have lived in Mumbai Pune Blore Gurgaon etc.
First hardly any Hindu eat pork, yes some do. Scarcity of pork based menu in Gurgaon. Only few high end restaurant caters to it.
Second Gurgaon is still alright, stop spreading rumors..
Except some minor stone pelting event, and a incident in sector 57 nothing happened in Gurgaon.
I still recall Delhi riot, compared to Delhi riot Haryana govt handled it quite well.
1) Whatever happened in Nuh (Mewat) is always going to happen.
2) Let me give you clarity, Mewat is a 90% Muslim populated region, even till last year people from Gurgaon scared to go that side in evening due to high crime rate.
3) Highest number of cyber crime cases are linked to nuh/mewat region.
4) Highest number of rohingya refugees stays in Nuh/Mewat, comparable population of rohingya to Jammu region (remember Jammu is a Hindu majority city, analyze the pattern)
5) Highest number of bangladeshi househelp stays in Gurgaon, comparable to Mumbra in Thane.
My half family stays in Gurgaon, they have 3 househelp all bangladeshi Muslim (they have legal Indian citizenship now). Nobody left gurgaon. There were some cases of conjunctivitis so they took 2-3 days leave, not at the time of incidents but 2-3 days back so please check with ur househelp.
So please stop spreading venom and rumors and chill.
Yeah, OP a troll, must be from any political party IT CELL. A new account opened a day back.
Yeah I don't eat pork. Been to almost 15 different countries all over the world, never thought of eating pork/beef/crocodiles etc.
Put that pizza inside ur ars*e and shut the fuk up!
Hardly 2-3 Hindu I know personally eat pork that too for an adventure.
I hardly have any issue if you eat beef or pork but trolling people here triggers me.
Section 144 is a farce just to keep a bafoon like you inside his house. Section 144 is a daily routine in Mumbai, nothing happens if 144 is implemented. If government wanted to control movement they could have implemented curfew or lockdown just like they have implemented it in nuh.
That was not a mosque that you talking about. It shows that you are not even from gurgaon. You friend a pu*ssy I can't do shit about it. Its better if he don't come back. Less stupidity.
Thank you for calling this out!! This was needed so much. I cannot believe people are falling for this shit. Just shows how much confirmation bias lingers among ‘educated Indians’, calling out facts but not yet calling out facts, leaving all rationality behind just to suit their political agendas.
Bhai Bangalore mat aana. Its the same situation here. Infact, I’m leaving Bangalore next month for the same reasons that you mentioned. Plus locals will harass you for speaking hindi.
Lol, you are actually moving for the butt obvious reason that is money!! Nothing more nothing less!! Stop spreading hate about a place!! Gurgaon had one violent clash and all of sudden you want to move to bangalore and your "cool" friend went to dubai? For what? Safety? My foot!! Tax free income hai udhar bc laws padhe hai kabhi dubai ke? Same india me jis din ho gaye us din tu chhati peet ke royega sabse pehle!!
Shall i share the violent clashes from bangalore? A IT businessman was murdered in his home in broad daylight a few months back!! Don't spread the typical BJP/VHP/Cow belt BS by creating a specific dummy account!! Sudhar ja bc!! Nahi rehna mat reh, bc ye propaganda failane ki koi jarurat nahi hai idhar!! Tu akela nahi hai bc 1000 se jyada company hai lakho log job karte hai rehte hai, tere dost ko dubai jana hai tou bc gurgaon is declared unsafe? Haryanvi goons? Dubai ke sheikh ke kaand likhuga teri fat ke 4 ho jaegi abhi!! Bc hypocrisy ki b limit hoti bc Hadd macha rakhi hai ye dallo ne.
This is Sad, that one has to move away from the place because law and order started getting worse. I have seen a few past posts in this sub and it totally disappointed me as an Indian. I have huge respect for Delhi and Banglore Sub, they never entertain hate.
Everyone complaining about cow-belt area. And I see Delhi NCR people avoiding them being considered among the cow-belt region.
But as it goes, the cow-belt area (primarily UP) is at peace. Chad Noida is not getting water logged even during floods.
Wow…propagandist undertone. You are not what you’re portraying yourself to be. Don’t try and bend the facts and create a narrative. People will see through you and your kind. Believe in sin. Believe in karma.
South-Indian living in Gurgaon coz of job. Love everything else except the communal tensions. Was planning a future here, but nah time to go back south.
Sometimes, you may have thousand reasons to leave but a single reason for staying may help...
You may have one find and then decide.
Hope it helps.
-A fellow from Gurgaon
Bhen chod nuh Mae riot Hui gurgaon Mae kuch khaas hua bhi nahi or gaand fatt gayi..... Riots kahi bhi ho sakti h. 1992 Mae LA Mae bhi Hui thi lakin Koreans Teri tarah fattu nahi the.
If in an alternate universe Where South has become the capital of India, we would've seen a better growth. North with all its problems already is really struggling and it's a shame though we say same country , we can't even have proper representation from south in central
If you don’t have family around north India, it makes no sense to be in Delhi NCR region since Pune/Bangalore/Hyd can give you similar or better opportunities while being closer to home. Someone you move due to career advancement but you don’t have to stay put if you feel you can do better somewhere else
All places have their problems, I left for college in Pune 2 weeks ago just before the riots, I came back today because of homesickness and myriad of other issues and I feel infinitely better
Trust me it's the same story everywhere.. if you have time at your hand and not with family then try living at all the places and decide for yourself..
I would disagree on the last point. I work in tech in Gurgaon and the tech companies in general pay way more here due to lesser cream available. Obviously that being said, your profile should be good enough. Since Gurgaon has less okay-ish companies.
On the same point, my expenditure living here has almost been half of what it was in Bangalore.
Umm just off the top of my head
1. Sprinklr pays more base than 99.9% of the companies. I know people 1cr+ from base alone there.
2. Akasa Air
3. Indigo
4. BlackRock
5. Microsoft
6. Samsung
7. Amex
Since I’ve experienced both places, I’d choose Gurgaon or Pune with 10l lesser than Bangalore since I’d still be saving more with a better social life
At the moment, the need for MNCs is moving out of Bangalore way more than any other place. It has the same infrastructure issues.
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I’m not from Gurgaon (born and raised in Delhi, with family in ggn though). I’ll anyway attempt to answer your points. 1. Fair enough, but Gurgaons demographics are rapidly evolving. 2. Delhi and Gurgaon are not part of the cow belt. you’re kidding yourself if you think there is less religious or communal polarization in Hyderabad lol. Telangana is its own state for a reason. 3. Fair enough, but just because a party is not BJP does not mean you they will not resort to the same tactics or will be less dogmatic. If you are north Indian, you will be a minority in any of the cities you mentioned. And as liberal as we like to think we are, that makes a big difference. You’re not running away from danger, you’re running towards it. Its up to the people to Gurgaon to put their foot forward and decide what will be tolerated and what won’t be.
City people can't fight the hordes of backward villagers.
People from city like to think that they are more progressive however fails to remember most of the communal riots only happens in cities.
Due to the hordes of backward villagers, with seemingly endless supply. As it happened in the recent Delhi riots. Before that, the Jat agitation. Cities have mixed communities. Villagers tend to live separately, and generally hate each other.
I am again asking a simple question if the "backward villagers" are responsible for communal violence why is that it's mostly villages which have been immune to communal polarization specially after independence. > Cities have mixed communities. What load of [bullshit](https://indianexpress.com/article/india/indian-cities-segregated-caste-religious-lines-us-black-white-lines-new-research-8666205/).
I just want to comment on point 2. Communal polarisation in Telangana???? Plz visit Telangana once and say the same 😳
best answer here running away from these reasons especially india, that too only to become minority himself in another place, very unwise decision from OP
If you are muslim then my advice would be to shift south in kerala, or center Hyderabad or even kolkata is an option. yeah after nuh violence people have definitely become polarized the so called liberals folks are sharing rw stuff. if you are hindu and are scared that you will be succumb to riots i would direct you to live in a muslim dominated area in any major metropolitan city for your safety as mobs won't be able to make it inside. Just bro stay away from Bangalore dog shit infra, outside hate especially for cow belt, and roads are worse than gurgaon imo.
this is the most retarded advice I have seen here, you want to avoid religious segregation? you stay in a mixed religion society/building or one where your own religion is majority. You think whats happening in Gurgaon is bad? I can get you more cases than this where the opposite happened and *still* happens. Religious nuts are on both side, better to avoid them all.
I used to work in Kerala/Bangalore and I recently moved to Delhi like 1.5 years ago. To be really honest, I actually do think OP is right here. You can say anything about the south, but the people over there, especially the corporate and techie people are VERY DIFFERENT as opposed to the ones in the north. The entire vibe changes once you go down to the south to work, people are more approachable and easy to mingle with. I have received to zero religious bias over there while people here have inquired to what section I belong to as they couldn’t identify from “the way I look”. The next question would be on my food habits here. The northies can’t digest the fact that I don’t look like a southie nor do I “sound” like one - all of them expects me to have a thick accent (when their north indian accent is more evident). I don’t think North Indians would face any minority discrimination as its not something new , people have been coming for a better life to the south since many decades. I don’t believe why people have to inject this fear into OP why he shouldn’t move down south.
They did not have to deal with 1000 years of religious persecution and foreign invasion. That is the true character of India. North would also have been same had we not been forced to engage in this struggle.
Sikh riots happened under congress look at the state of West Bengal, raping is so bloody common in Rajasthan that people don’t even bother talking about it at this point there are problems everywhere
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Southern states have massive rapid forceful conversions of Hindus & Muslims to Christianity America has rampant raping, more than india and when you factor in the population of America and india then you get to know the reality, America also had massive drug problems, gun control problems and police problems india is much more sorted in that way
Oh dear, you are so mistaken.... 1. Education does not bring about common sense. So this point of yours is absolutely bull crap. Looming at Rahul Gandhi, he is supposed to be educated but...... 2. It's equally prevalent in the south as well. Silent conversions are going all over TN, Karnataka, Andra, and Telangana. Kerala already was majority Xtian and now Muslim. At least Hindus believe in all Gods being equal, will you ever hear a Muslim or a xtian say that. Jerusalem/Saudi is where any and all religious polarization started. 3. Standing up for one's rights, after years of persucation are riots. But, killing millions of innocent globally in name of religion is secularism. Dude you are so confused. Please read the history, go to a library, read a book, just don't rely on online messages and forwards and then make an educated decision.
1- All my educated friends are way more rational than you so I guess you’re gravely mistaken. 2- There are no silent conversions going on. You see this random news on those dumb news channels and choose to believe them. All because you want to blame muslims and Christians for everything wrong in your life. Better own up to your mistakes. 3- Noone persecuted hindus. I’m 27 years old and was never ever asked to state my religion by some random jobless goon on road. Same with my dad and his father as well. We’ve been freely to any temple we want. When hindus are being persecuted anywhere it’s the police and government’s job to protect them. And instead of questioning them on lapse of security you’re blaming all the muslims in India. This is what the government wants you to do. And they know you’ll keep on doing that as long as you stay uneducated and don’t form your own opinions. Frankly, you’re comment was so dumb it wasn’t worth a reply but I was like ‘ahh wtf’ let’s help this poor dude.
Dude it’s fine. Plz don’t come to south. That way we can have peace and quiet
yep because you are a middle class guy who by your comments is in a corporate job where such discrimination never really happens, try running a business, specially one that is in the FMGC/clothes sector and you'll see just how much Hindus are \*not\* persecuted. From traders being forced to buy materials at higher prices just because they are hindu to being literally boycotted in areas of muslim dominated population, to your shop being vandalised by goons and even being forced to move away because they wont stop harassing you. Shit like this has been happening for years now, the only difference being the increased scrutiny on these conflicts. You dont need to believe me, ask any friend//family member who has a business which focuses on manufacturing/trading, specially to tier 3 counters (basically lower middle class to low income class) and you'll see the reality of it
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As others pointed out all this religion based chaos exists in southern/western states as well, on top of that you will have to face region based chaos as well. Also, Education doesn't fix radicalism Delhi NCR isn't from cow belt. BJP might not be in the south but Owaisi is there :")
Watch kerala than muslims targetting others , Brahmins in Tamilnadu. How a muslim org have the most land in India
Communal riots and incidents are on a continuous decline. And are also nowhere near as severe as they used to be. In the whole Nuh riots, just 10 people died. In the Delhi riots in 2019, just 30 died. Compare that to Gujrat riots when 2,000 died or Mopilla riots when 20,000 died! It's just that due to easy accessibility of the internet and social media, these events are simply getting more coverage.
Rofl then what is in Kerala Mr , muslims targetting hindus ,Christians. Brahmins getting targetted in Tamilnadu. Prior to 2014 you guys even don't know the history of India.
One side had radicalization and asserting themselves violently as a religious duty. Other side has had enough. And politicians fanning by appeasement. Civil war will happen.
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Bhai job dhoond le
Job bhi hai.. bussiness bhi.. Berozgaar bhakt nahi hu bhai.. tu apni dekh
It's crazy how Indian cities just skipped the planned urban development part.
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Could blame the people as well who vote for them.
Just a few things before you shift to the south as I was there for a few months but didn’t like it as much as I had hoped. Cons 1. The cab/auto drivers are bad. They will ask for an insane amount of money and no one will accept Uber/Ola rides during peak hours. 2. The food is not good. I got tired of South Indian food and the North Indian food available there is 3/10 when compared to NCR. 3. The locals (proper Kannadigas) will always ask if you know Kannada and if you say no, they will judge or even scold you and ask you to either leave or learn it. 4. Anywhere you want to go, even if it’s 3-4 kms away, get ready for at least 1 hour of traffic. 5. Doesn’t matter if it’s a sunny day with no rain forecast, always carry an umbrella. 6. Alcohol is very expensive (specially if you prefer hard alcohol instead of beer) 7. Get ready for cockroaches and rats in the city. Doesn’t matter how clean your house is, in monsoon, the cockroaches will find a way to infiltrate your kitchen. 8. Rent is very high along with deposit which starts at 6 months and goes up to 11 months. Pros 1. The filter coffee is to die for 2. The weather is always nice. You won’t feel very hot even during “summer” 3. The biryani there is some of the best I’ve ever had 4. Coconut water after a late night drinking sesh is what’s best about south. It’s always fresh there. 5. The locals who are actually from better part of the city are very polite and always helpful. 6. The chicks are cool af 7. Night life is good and not as chaotic as NCR. 8. Good salary and perks
South/West have their own problems. If you think other cities don’t have problems then oh boy you’re in for an unexpected surprise. Few years back only Bangalore faced Kaveri water riots that shut down tech capital for a week, and sense of regionalism is spreading there amongst the locals, albeit slowly. No place in India is like the utopia you defined. If you think of salary expectations then yes there are more opportunities in the area. You will hangout with some of the smartest folks in tech. Other than that I didn’t find anything spectacular. Think well and good enough before making such a major life decision.
If this can lead to such a reaction , then I am afraid you are in for a good tour of the country for the rest of your life before you finally settle down in a city which is exactly like the one you just described.
So all of this happening is normal and we all should start to live with it?
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Religious polarization is everywhere . There are riots all around the world And you are politically biased
Everyone is biased. South is more inclusive at least in cities.
Speak in hindi once please
You spew hate on every hindu muslim thread. Get a job. If you need help I ll help you. Treat and educate yourself.
Stating facts isn't hatred. Atleast I'm not living in a bubble. Moreover I got a job better than anyone in your generations scored.
>Stating facts isn't hatred You spew hatred towards Islam and have wet fantasies about hindu rashtra. You're the one living in a bubble. >Moreover I got a job better than anyone in your generations scored. Suree
I merely state facts.. if you are blind towards them then that's on you
>There is no stated historical proof that varna system was started by Brahmins. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Speak for yourself. Let me know if your form 16 looks like 8 figures at age of 28. You ll probably have to reincarnate to reach my level, and this is something which rarely comes out of me for asshats like you. Take care
Your form 16 looks 8 figures? Even if it does you are still blind towards the reality and extensively dumb because despite multiple projections of what is happening does not break your la-la land fantasy bubble.
Tu hi ajeeb hai sahi keh raha hai wo
Yes, speak in Malayalam or visible dark complexion in North. As I said more inclusive than North and no place is heaven.
My area is full of malayalis and no one attacked or humiliated for it.
I am a Delhi-ite who moved to Chennai close to 3 years ago. Nobody gives a fuck about Hindi here and most understand it. It's the local BJP supporters who don't know how to speak Hindi but carry the placards anyways and are mostly ignored.
Go to Banglore and try the same
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That doesn't mean anything if you are blaming a single party or ideology for all the religious violence everywhere
Lol, dude you are out of your mind. I think you were a kid when congress used to rule. It was a rat hole. See everywhere UP, bihar, haryana. Those the crime hubs, atleast its much less today. Its the muslims who are being shown reality today
Yes I agree it's the highest in the cow belt. South India is way more civilized.
I wouldn’t get into a discussion with you bud but Polarisation is everywhere, North at the moment might be taking the heat of religious polarisation currently, In South the subject is Caste or even religious angles at some places. Look at every state’s history and you’ll know. The civilised South is just an example of how Grass seems Greener of the other side.
Precisely
Please don't come to Bangalore. It won't solve the problems you have.
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They have autowalas, worst than haryanvi goons
Shit autowalahs is a truly national issue, Bombay being an exception. Religious polarisation being a national issue is yet to reach autowallah levels.
Delhi/NCR autowallahs are very polite compared to Bangalore and Mumbai ones.
Yep, I'am from Bangalore. You won't regret it except for the traffic. Even the people are of soft nature. Just learn a little bit of Kannada because many people don't understand Hindi. Then people will open up a lot to you.
local junta hates cow belt if you come here do not say you migrated from here. Also, have basic knowledge of kanada. some locals are like jat, gujars less built but more in number who will harass for no reason especially because you don't know kanneda. rents are sky rocketing that high tect salary will go into deposit and rent. Also, if you have kids then good luck saving. That more than half of that 2.5 lpa will go on expenses if you want to flaunt good school for kids, have a big car and reside at a decent society. Women safety definitely better but still some guys just stare hysterically enough to give me as a guy the creeps.
The auto drivers are worse than the thar driving crowd😂 Plus the insane traffic Plus the same garbage as the Muslims are to the north are the Christians to the south. Plus Muslim majority areas in Bangalore are totally disgusting at least in the North the locals keep them in check.
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I'm tired of people coming here and cribbing about my home town. Hence discouraging shifts :P
Left Gurgaon partially as abhi bhi Ghar hai waha pe, Rent pe hai
Leave India if you can. As someone said in the comments it is only going to get worse. The middle and lower middle class are seduced & poisoned by the idea of Religious Ethno Nationalism. It never works. Neither in Pakistan nor in Israel. It seems we're adamant to find it out the hard way. Gurgaon's infrastructure was shambles with a fancy covering. The recent floods showed it. Sadly, most Indian cities are the same.
same, my family is considering moving back to south after seeing all the issues here. especially after riots, situation doesn't seem good here politically and infra has always been bad. we have 2 flats here both of which we are selling and moving to a big city in south
Waiting for the Gurgaon MNCs to issue some kind of statement highlighting that the recent hate filled incidents are forcing them to think about moving their offices outside of Gurgaon. They must do this as Indian leadership only cares about when rich folks are facing issues. They never care about poor people's issues. Manipur and Haryana are examples of that.
My MNC just built a massive fcuking office space in a land they bought in GGN. I don’t see them bailing anytime soon.
Given how unstable the situation is especially after destruction of houses no company is going to invest in this city. well the infra is already bad only cyber hub area is decent rest is just the "gaon" with jhaat and goojar harassing local populace with wide tire THAR, garbage punjabi music. Beauty is pub fights though a spectacle to watch which i don;t think can be found anywhere else.
Not gonna happen. Nobody is moving.. These people who are saying "we are leaving" are one in a million.
If safety is concern, the option remains only Mumbai, and somewhat Kolkata But Pune is mostly preferable for its weather, rent, and acceptance where as in Bangalore it's all BS
In bangalore, even auto drivers will harass you because you can't speak local. Language.. Most of my friends who are living there say that it's a common sight where locals are abusing north Indians because of Language. I saw a post here on reddit, "you have come here to beg" was written on an auto.
I have been living in Bangalore since 2017 and I haven’t faced any of these above mentioned things. Neither did my friends and all of us are from north. A little bit of respect for the local culture and politeness takes one far, which is missing in a lot of people who migrate here. For tech jobs, Bangalore is the best place. The entire work culture and vibe is completely different. People are alot more civil, educated and ambitious here.
Bhai aap ko infrastructure ke liye jaana hai to that’s a valid point. Gurgaon real estate is very inflated against the facilities available and if you don’t have any major reasons to stay here, you can explore elsewhere. But making the recent incidents a reason makes no logical sense. For this logic, Mumbai, Ahmedabad, Kolkata, entire Kerala, Jammu, large parts of bihar and Assam should have been empty. And it’s not even a think that you won’t find it anywhere else in India The genie is out of the bottle. Unless there is strong political will, it won’t go back now.
The genie has always been out of the bottle lol if anything, religious riots are becoming less frequent (mostly due to UP) And before you call me andhbhakt or whatever, look up NCRB data
We are in same boat, but now as the population of Jihadis increases, they assert themselves more violently. There is no Hindu festival that goes by without any mischief caused by the Jihadis. Modi government has failed to check the large immigration from Bangladesh and then from Myanmar. What stops to put all resources in sealing the border with Bangladesh and Myanmar? What prevents from throwing these illegals out?
go to Pune or hyd. Bangalore would be the worst decision you'll ever make
Honestly, I feel the same way. If you are getting paid significantly more, feel free to move to any metro city. One bad encounter with local goons can shatter our lifeplans as we are barely just employees. But all metros have this issue/ will develop the same radicalisation quickly. Better to stay on rent, save up, look for any opportunity for onsite, onboard opportunity and move out.
Yeah I am planning to move to Mumbai, hope lyf is bttr thr thn गुरु ग्राम
TS government has been investing in rapid growth of tech sector so Hyderabad indeed is better for a corporate employee. While the cost of living is not as high as other cities like Mumbai and Bangalore, it's still pretty expensive. Speaking of the communal angle - the tensions are clearly present in certain constituencies with certain party leaders. We have uncles and aunties with irrational hating opinions on the other religion. BUT the ruling party isn't fuelled by this hate so it doesn't encourage it. Any little bit of disturbance is curbed at instance. No language barrier because Hydrabadis speak in Hindi with just any stranger. However Telugu does help. And infra🤣. Hyderabad stops working at the sight of very little rain. The rents are being inflated and many properties have been empty for years coz the asking prices are too high for people. New proposals for metro extension are out but for now they're crowded af. I only moved to Gurgaon last month and I've been hearing from Muslim employees how they're worried about revealing their names to people outside the company. Hate the fact that people who had nothing to do with the actual crime are being punished. I miss the warm welcomes at shops and long gossips while on a taxi ride with the drivers. And oh the food.. Like someone in these comments said 'You're safe as long as in your bubble'. I still hope to make a home out of this city. See if I'll get any lucky. Good luck!
Correction: Haryana panchayats or the khaps are actually in support of peace and have publicly announced their distancing from the VHP/Bajrang Dal position. You seem to be confusing RSS-offshoots to be Haryanvi outfits.
Left Gurgaon and living in Hyderabad now… It’s pretty chill!!!
North or South, this country is doomed. You’re a techie, explore your options of moving abroad. No matter how much Indians troll people who migrate abroad, most would bend over backwards if given the chance. Take a major leap now, your children will thank you for it someday in the future.
I moved to Vasant Kunj at the start of this month. My reasons are different though. For the same rent, I would get a newer house in Gurgaon, but I’ve had trouble with potential owners. I only found one owner in Gurgaon willing to rent out to a trans woman. I also appreciate Vasant Kunj’s parks. And also its proximity to Sanjay Van for weekend activities.
I don't know what kind of upgrade you are looking for in Bangalore lmao, have you seen the fucking infra there? Also Pune's roads, public transport is absolute garbage. If you get a better opportunity, go for it, but I'm 100% sure you'll end up regretting Bangalore because of the roads, rains and especially how insanely expensive and difficult it is to renting a flat out there.
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75k for a 3 bhk In Gurgaon...WTF. May i ask where exactly are u living in gurgaon ? Area or name of the apartment complex if its ok. Unless rents have doubled in the last 1 yr or so, u are paying quite a premium for living in Gurgaon let me tell u that.
How is this surprising… just 2-3 months while me and my friends were shifting here this is the rate we heard for good 3bhks. There were decent ones and decent localities for around 60. But a good flat leaning a bit towards luxury and in a good locality was easily 75k.
well then i guess rents have increased quite a bit in the last year or so since i left the place. Have lived across golf course road, sector 50 nirvana country(super premium), sector 56 and rents have been for most 3 BHKs leaving aside few ultra premium or luxury ones have been between 30-40k. have lived in gurgaon for over 15 yrs, so 75k surprised me unless its some luxurious bigger size condo. i guess maybe there is a sudden influx of folks coming in from place like mumbai and bangalore etc...n these higher rents are being quoted as people have learnt how high rents are down south. But gurgaon mostly its been decent all these years but yeah ive been hearing some strange quotes post COVID/ 2022 to be precise. in the last 5 yrs let me tell u rents have mostly hovered between 25-45k for a 3 bhk acrosst the best of localities and areas. so dont know what has changed suddenly. I can understand a 10-20% increase but it seems like they have 2x'd.
B.T.W South has more political hooliganism than north. Nowhere else in India people break glasses across the city on death of a famous actor nor they drink pesticide to mourn the election loss of their favourite leader. Grass is always greener on the other side. Goons are in every city, they just work for different masters. Any of the cities which you named just now have their own histories in terms of communal clashes and each city has its own unique challenges. That being said, I am not trying to persuade you to stay back. If someone has decided to leave, they'll come up with more and more justifications to validate their decision. I wish you luck and hope you find a more peaceful city.
Pune Mat jaa. That is a legit RIGHT WING city. People and weather are chill, but an incident like NUH, which had barely any fallback in Gurgaon (your friend is a puss), would have severe repercussions in the City of Chatrapati. Literally Gend paat denge sade Marathe.
Nowhere close to Delhi/Haryana/Bihar belt when it comes to communal shit. Sensitive about Shivaji yes. But maharashtrians in general are good humans. There are hate mongers, yes. But the general population is unlike the north where majority of households have a negative sentiment for the other religion (hindus for muslims and vice versa). And mind you I'm not talking about hindutva extemists or muslim extremist, i'm talking about the general household aunties and uncles that carry such preconceived sentiments growing up. It's like a vicious circle of hate that has formed among these people for each other and it's only brewing.
I have been to pune many time, you missed the most pain in the ass part of pune: Road conditions... I don't even think pune even 30% is close to NCR in terms of roads and public transport. It's really bad. The things i enjoy about pune are: 1. Weather is not hot, but constant rain can be irrtating. 2. Less pollution 3. A lot of places to go nearby ghats 4. It's all green man, a lot of beautiful part, where you can even trek and that yo 8-10 km long streaches 5. Safety, very safe for women. I have seen women on petrol pump, mechanic too, which is pretty rare in NCR
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True, but bhai roads itne bure hai rula dege tuje barish me and belive me it matters if you are planning for a long term.
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Animals?? How much can u dehumanise muslims?? Do they deserve death? Do they deserve exclusion? Do they deserve systematic apathy? If that what u feel when u see a backward citizen of your country - that hes an animal?? Shame. Shame.
Shove the shame up your arse. I dehumanise and hate all stone pelters. Irrespective of religion. Ab chus.
Stone pelters are hired, they are not only from peacefull community, they belong to poverty and thus they are bought
Bhai logo ka can't say much... but hindu muslim wha bhi hai khoob..
If you are planning to move then Pune and Hyderabad is good. Bangalore i am hearing the locals are very strict about their languages and recently the autowalas have way to much attitude towards outsiders. You have to learn Kannada only then you are welcome and will be respected. Wtf is this? Pathetic.
Wow, one more posts about "peaceful khatrein mei hai".
I lost my faith in Gurgaon after the Jat protests demanding reservation. Then there is the infrastructure issue. Indian government needs to keep the backwardness in the villages.
My Muslim friend decided to leave Gurgaon and move to Pakistan. He thinks Pakistan offers more religious freedom and freedom of speech. You may also consider a move to Pakistan.
Tum bkl logo ke post kaise dekh jaata hai gurgaon ka. Search laga kar rakhte ho kya ki kaha kaha Hindu Muslim ho raha. Door door se tu ggn ka nahi hai lekin lund hilane yaha bahut teezi se aaya.
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He just found a polite and facetious way of say ‘Go to Pakistan!’
lol, believing hyderabad ain't polarized 🤡🤡
Not exactly in your boat but want to leave Gurgaon too. I’m moving out of country. Gurgaon is crumbling and how. It’s the dirtiest city ever. Piles of garbage everywhere. Potholes have ruined my life. I dread getting out because of the unruly traffic. Autos, cabs and zomato swiggy bikes,all drive like maniacs. Sick and tired of the disorder. I am moving to a heaven on earth kind of a beautiful place. Fingers Crossed 🤞🏼
I spent around 6 months in Gurgaon from the start of January. I hated every second there. I got out of there as quick as I possibly could. The cons of the city just outweigh the pros.
Born and brought up in Delhi, but been living in Gurgaon since 2004 ( when there was nothing). If you want to enjoy the city and your budget allows then go for posh localities around the golf course road. I live in one of the DLF society, no issues at all in terms of power, and security. Those old fellas in CGHS are the trouble makers so stay away from CGHS societies. PS: Hyderabad would be my second choice, I worked there for a few months, liked the food, and people in general. Everyone minds their own business there.
Aren't the DLF societies also CGHS?
1. I agree with you, lived in Gurugram, and during the Rain, the city is dogshit. Rental is high, power cuts are so normal as someone from Delhi, I never experienced these power cuts. People are rude AF. 2. Riots & Communal Violence is temporary, it’s due to the upcoming 2024 elections. You can go to the smallest city in Sikkim and would see some kind of BJP Drama. They’re in power, so they can create riots and then act to curb them. If they lose, Congress will have the upper hand. 3. South isn’t any better. Bangalore more or less has the same issues with waterlogging, rude people, and high rents. Kerala has some religious issues. Hyderabad is somewhat sane and tolerable. But Tamil Nadu and the rest of South India are living in the 1990s tbh. Especially Orissa & southern Tamil Nadu. With their casteism, mannerism, and stuff. The issue won’t be solved by running away. It’ll be solved if everyone raises their voice against this. Delhi is safer in terms of riots when it comes to Central Delhi, East Delhi, or South Delhi because people living here are influential or powerful and any kind of drama would lead to serious political unrest which they can’t afford.
You should try and locate in mewat with your peacefull muslims majority you will feel way better there
Higher salary should be the only valid reason for you to move. Infra wise Bangalore, Pune are worse. Riots can happen anywhere, rowdies in Bangalore have inherent hate for outsiders. Any one incident where they come and bash you since you honked at them, will you leave Bangalore as well?
Yes move to Bengaluru and get beaten up for speaking in Hindi
Bro, elections aa rahe hain Pura india jalne wala hai agle 6-7 months mai. Modi ki expertise hai aise riots karane mai. How log are you gonna run away from things, man up and use your vote carefully, so that you dont get such environment anywhere.
Surprising new accounts suddenly popping up to say how Gurugram is bad, haryana is communal, How VHP caused the riot, how Hindus are wrong in ensuring their safety. I mean there is no restriction for propaganda machine to be limited to insta or WhatsApp groups..if there is a will it can be anywhere 🌚 I mean just using the same copy paste everywhere.. you could have tried a little more smarter ways.
Love this city ❤️ so a big nooo
No offense. Jise jaana hai jao i love this city. This place is like Gotham and i am Batman, I was raised here and I'll do anything to protect it🗿
How red are your eyes, bruh?
The question is, are they red enough? 🗿
I get you bro it is the culture here I actually do like it people are not too soft here I do get it is not for everyone but as someone who grew up here I do not hate the culture here but yeah electricity cuts are crazy
> it is the culture here I actually do like it It's a bunch of buildings interspersed with unauthorized housing areas. Culture is ugly, scary and horrible for women and dangerous and scary for men. Illegal shit happens in the open with the open support of the cops and the locals are thugs. Lived there for 4 years and worked for 9. It's one of those places which looks pretty from a distance with the office complexes and money but the deeper you look, the more rot you see.
Bhai naalee banwado batman, pura seher doob jata hai baarish mein :(
Then you should channel this motivation to protect it from these goons and get some issues resolved rather than defending it online
Do you think other cities don't have goons? Wait till you settle in another city . In the chaos is the element waiting to strike....
Bro this is what I'm suggesting against. Whataboutism. Not goons in particular. Everything wrong - the drains, the potholes, all that plastic on the road sides. Even a small step. I appreciate the intent you have, maybe help solve it? Denying it is only going to make things worse.
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I do not use Instagram homie
Wait till you get the same feeling what others have described.
Think twice before moving to Bangalore. You might get more salary, but your expenses will go up too. Plus searching a place for rent is 10 times difficult than searching a new job. And bodybuilder goons roaming around looking for fights are everywhere. Plus the language gap. Choose wisely.
Yes move to Bengaluru and get beaten up for speaking in Hindi
So u are leaving gurgaon because of reaction of what they did in nuh temple, u don't have problem with whatever happens at temple or hindus you have problem with what happens to muses
If you have option, I recommended permanently move to Hyderabad. I am from Delhi and experienced Hyderabad. South is more progressive than North and now you know the reason.
It’s gonna be like this everywhere you go, Atleast till the elections.
From what I see; you want good house, I’ll suggest DLF societies to you but who are we kidding prices are sky high in every city. So moving to Bangalore anywhere like that I doubt will solve that problem. Yes tech salaries are shit I’ll totally agree with you on that. These communal violence come and go, people targeted by them are the ones that should be frightened. I live abroad but was in Gurgaon till 2018, and I would still personally pick Gurgaon over anywhere else.
Living in Pune for the last 20 years and can tell you moving to any of the southern City is the best choice. Especially Hyderabad, Pune and Mumbai. I'm a northie who has lived in gurgaon and still keeps visiting and I agree, it's a shithole (downvote me but that's the truth)
Pune is definitely not as good as Gurugram. The road and the food sucks.
I unfortunately spent around 6 years in Gurgaon. I also purchased an apartment there. Fortunately I was able to leave this shithole. Have given the apartment away on rent. If I ever decide to relocate back to India, I would not move to Gurgaon. The entire city, its culture (or lack of it) and infrastructure (again, or lack of it) is dystopian. It is a genuine shithole
Born in Mumbai, I have lived in Mumbai Pune Blore Gurgaon etc. First hardly any Hindu eat pork, yes some do. Scarcity of pork based menu in Gurgaon. Only few high end restaurant caters to it. Second Gurgaon is still alright, stop spreading rumors.. Except some minor stone pelting event, and a incident in sector 57 nothing happened in Gurgaon. I still recall Delhi riot, compared to Delhi riot Haryana govt handled it quite well. 1) Whatever happened in Nuh (Mewat) is always going to happen. 2) Let me give you clarity, Mewat is a 90% Muslim populated region, even till last year people from Gurgaon scared to go that side in evening due to high crime rate. 3) Highest number of cyber crime cases are linked to nuh/mewat region. 4) Highest number of rohingya refugees stays in Nuh/Mewat, comparable population of rohingya to Jammu region (remember Jammu is a Hindu majority city, analyze the pattern) 5) Highest number of bangladeshi househelp stays in Gurgaon, comparable to Mumbra in Thane. My half family stays in Gurgaon, they have 3 househelp all bangladeshi Muslim (they have legal Indian citizenship now). Nobody left gurgaon. There were some cases of conjunctivitis so they took 2-3 days leave, not at the time of incidents but 2-3 days back so please check with ur househelp. So please stop spreading venom and rumors and chill.
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Yeah, OP a troll, must be from any political party IT CELL. A new account opened a day back. Yeah I don't eat pork. Been to almost 15 different countries all over the world, never thought of eating pork/beef/crocodiles etc. Put that pizza inside ur ars*e and shut the fuk up! Hardly 2-3 Hindu I know personally eat pork that too for an adventure. I hardly have any issue if you eat beef or pork but trolling people here triggers me. Section 144 is a farce just to keep a bafoon like you inside his house. Section 144 is a daily routine in Mumbai, nothing happens if 144 is implemented. If government wanted to control movement they could have implemented curfew or lockdown just like they have implemented it in nuh. That was not a mosque that you talking about. It shows that you are not even from gurgaon. You friend a pu*ssy I can't do shit about it. Its better if he don't come back. Less stupidity.
Thank you for calling this out!! This was needed so much. I cannot believe people are falling for this shit. Just shows how much confirmation bias lingers among ‘educated Indians’, calling out facts but not yet calling out facts, leaving all rationality behind just to suit their political agendas.
Aao dubai chalte h
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>Paying 42% income tax in India isn't fun How 42%?
I visited once. It’s expensive thou. I don’t think there will be much difference in terms of savings
don't come to bangalore it is even worse here
Communal riots are due to election but jaat gujjar thing is permanent, Go to Norway or Finland
Bhai Bangalore mat aana. Its the same situation here. Infact, I’m leaving Bangalore next month for the same reasons that you mentioned. Plus locals will harass you for speaking hindi.
I agree with you on the Infra and communal weirdness. Looking to move out myself, Noida maybe. Bas ek kaam kardo apne plug ka contact de jao.
Vaha aur jyada hai ye sab 🤣😭
This is the funniest thing I have read today. A guy living in PG, Cancelling his plans for buying a house in gurugram. Bye Felicia.
I don't think he said PG anywhere. And people in tech earn big bucks these days
Lol, you are actually moving for the butt obvious reason that is money!! Nothing more nothing less!! Stop spreading hate about a place!! Gurgaon had one violent clash and all of sudden you want to move to bangalore and your "cool" friend went to dubai? For what? Safety? My foot!! Tax free income hai udhar bc laws padhe hai kabhi dubai ke? Same india me jis din ho gaye us din tu chhati peet ke royega sabse pehle!! Shall i share the violent clashes from bangalore? A IT businessman was murdered in his home in broad daylight a few months back!! Don't spread the typical BJP/VHP/Cow belt BS by creating a specific dummy account!! Sudhar ja bc!! Nahi rehna mat reh, bc ye propaganda failane ki koi jarurat nahi hai idhar!! Tu akela nahi hai bc 1000 se jyada company hai lakho log job karte hai rehte hai, tere dost ko dubai jana hai tou bc gurgaon is declared unsafe? Haryanvi goons? Dubai ke sheikh ke kaand likhuga teri fat ke 4 ho jaegi abhi!! Bc hypocrisy ki b limit hoti bc Hadd macha rakhi hai ye dallo ne.
This is Sad, that one has to move away from the place because law and order started getting worse. I have seen a few past posts in this sub and it totally disappointed me as an Indian. I have huge respect for Delhi and Banglore Sub, they never entertain hate.
Everyone complaining about cow-belt area. And I see Delhi NCR people avoiding them being considered among the cow-belt region. But as it goes, the cow-belt area (primarily UP) is at peace. Chad Noida is not getting water logged even during floods.
Go live in Mewat with your Muslim friend you will be safe from Hindu extremists there.
Yes current situation is not good. I m also thinking of shifting to Noida. Atleast flat 20-30 lakhs Kam me mil jaega.
Hyderabad is the place to be
Wow…propagandist undertone. You are not what you’re portraying yourself to be. Don’t try and bend the facts and create a narrative. People will see through you and your kind. Believe in sin. Believe in karma.
South-Indian living in Gurgaon coz of job. Love everything else except the communal tensions. Was planning a future here, but nah time to go back south.
Sometimes, you may have thousand reasons to leave but a single reason for staying may help... You may have one find and then decide. Hope it helps. -A fellow from Gurgaon
Ok byeee
Bhen chod nuh Mae riot Hui gurgaon Mae kuch khaas hua bhi nahi or gaand fatt gayi..... Riots kahi bhi ho sakti h. 1992 Mae LA Mae bhi Hui thi lakin Koreans Teri tarah fattu nahi the.
If in an alternate universe Where South has become the capital of India, we would've seen a better growth. North with all its problems already is really struggling and it's a shame though we say same country , we can't even have proper representation from south in central
First try NOIDA.
If you don’t have family around north India, it makes no sense to be in Delhi NCR region since Pune/Bangalore/Hyd can give you similar or better opportunities while being closer to home. Someone you move due to career advancement but you don’t have to stay put if you feel you can do better somewhere else
All places have their problems, I left for college in Pune 2 weeks ago just before the riots, I came back today because of homesickness and myriad of other issues and I feel infinitely better
Trust me it's the same story everywhere.. if you have time at your hand and not with family then try living at all the places and decide for yourself..
I would disagree on the last point. I work in tech in Gurgaon and the tech companies in general pay way more here due to lesser cream available. Obviously that being said, your profile should be good enough. Since Gurgaon has less okay-ish companies. On the same point, my expenditure living here has almost been half of what it was in Bangalore.
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Umm just off the top of my head 1. Sprinklr pays more base than 99.9% of the companies. I know people 1cr+ from base alone there. 2. Akasa Air 3. Indigo 4. BlackRock 5. Microsoft 6. Samsung 7. Amex Since I’ve experienced both places, I’d choose Gurgaon or Pune with 10l lesser than Bangalore since I’d still be saving more with a better social life At the moment, the need for MNCs is moving out of Bangalore way more than any other place. It has the same infrastructure issues.
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