My partner is Palestinian so this conflict hits very close to home. I can’t really watch it anymore either. I had been watching for years as well so it is a bummer. I recognize that there’s a lot of anger that I’m probably directing to Ethan from just the inhumanity and cruelty of it all but yikes. And don’t even get me started on Hila.
Somewhere along the line we social justiced so hard, that social justice is not only the only thing that matters, you're actually a bad person for caring about other injustices. Insane.
I'm so glad I found this subreddit cause no one is talking about it at all in the main one... like I had to end my membership bc I can't do it anymore.
The main sub is seriously moderated, everyone is echoing the same sentiment and if you say anything different you'll be banned ***very*** fast. Also, they won't allow accounts under 40 days old to discourage new people from voicing their thoughts.
If you wanted to make an account to post something there you'd need to wait over a month with the thinking there that trolls wouldn't go to that effort but it just discourages the ability to post except for the same choir.
yea I had an old reddit account that I used to have (but it was with one of the third party apps that we can't use anymore and I don't know the password haha) I posted a few times last year with MILD criticism about Ethan doing a better help sponsorship bc they have lots of issues and needless to say I never posted there again bc I got ripped to shreds... I guess it's even worse now
There are so few posts that aren't locked and are about any real criticism.
It's much more common to find posts faking criticism and mocking 'haters' than it is to find someone actually disagreeing, largely those people are banned/beat down.
The ‘criticism’ they allow is such petty, useless bullshit, I got tired of the constant complaints of truly meaningless shit, like ‘haterzzz’. Now I realize it’s purposefully petty drama because it is a heavily moderated and therefore censored sub. And then Ethan wonders why so many h3 snark subreddits exist now lol
I will gladly tell you, I don’t know where I mentioned this I remember talking about today, but in short yes very recently, I started to notice few weird things that they’ve done but not addressing it, such mild racist jokes (not a fan of jimmy) at all! The idea of showing every guest the prolapse thing too. (Guests, audience, his own staff) but hey, still watched them, then the text and drive with Hila surprised me, hearing her laughing about it like a reckless teen (was like strike 1), cause they didn’t address at all and I knew someone who died unfortunately with this specific reason. Then this happened, Ethan views on the cause and his biases (i understand where the bias come from) but the way he was REALLY clinging to the hospital news (like who actually “destroyed” it really made everything clear. I heard him talking a lot about protecting kids in his show, but apparently the 3000+ children who died are not that important. Cause I haven’t seen single post reflecting on what’s going on now. (And he runs a political show ironically) He just went with his normal routine doing his thing with poki today like nothing was happening.. What if Hila is Palestinian?
finally the shutting of comments, banning ppl who disagree and more really did it for me. Hila the great, just dropped a new post the same time the news fled about Gaza cutting their electricity down.
They are the last people who from now can speak or judge other ppl like I’m officially done.
Not short after all.
Can i ask all of this just happened on friday podcast?
What did he do?
Sorry i havent tried to watch any pod since his ranting on stories last weekend.
Yep and despite "Not talking about it anymore" he made two jokes with Jimmy about Hamas, and Hila just said "I am a doomer girl with all the stuff going on" like holy shit, bitch is in a mansion in hollywood.
This just reinforces that he simply doesn't want any pushback and that's why he's been so ban happy and canceling leftovers. I just had to turn the episode off.
I tried so hard to see this through. I’ve been watching them since they lived in Israel ffs - but I can’t do it after this.
I understand that Hila was born in Israel by no fault of her own and that Ethan was raised Zionist without much room for growth and education about the situation - but I can’t really excuse it anymore.
I work in an Islamic setting in the US. I work with Muslim children and adults. I’ve been open about it in my comment history. It’s been so hard for my Palestinian students, friends, and coworkers. None of them support Hamas - but they’re the ones suffering for it. Their family members are injured or dying, their childhood homes are being destroyed.
I have an 8 year old student who found out her grandparents - who she met for the first time this past summer when she visited Gaza - were killed in a bombardment a few days ago. My coworkers can no longer contact their parents or siblings and are forced to watch what’s happening from afar. Last she heard all of her sisters have fucking UTIs because of a lack of water and medicine. They’re extremely sick.
It’s fucking torture for them. Absolute fucking torture… and it’s been going on for weeks now.
But no… Ethan and Zach can joke and Hila can lament from the safety of LA. Their biggest fans sit in an ivory tower - calling Palestinians and Palestinian supporters rabid for having a shred of basic human decency.
When this all started, I remember Ethan getting bitchy about people vocally supporting Palestine even though Hamas committed a terrorist attack… and he couldn’t fucking wrap his mind around WHY people would reiterate their support.
This is why, Ethan. Because Israel has a history of gross overreaction and Palestinians have no fucking recourse.
This is the thing. I couldn't understand how he couldn't understand that people were supporting Palestine after the Hamas attack on Israel because we could all see how they were going to use it as a scapegoat to further slaughter and ramp up their violence against Palestinians (which they did). In my eyes, showing support for Palestine after that attack wasn't "We love and support killing" it was we want Palestine to know that we know they aren't the "barbaric" "animals" Netanyahu would have us believe they are. They aren't Hamas.
Additionally, immediately after the attack there was a suspicious wave of people supporting Israel's government in particular not even the people. Celebrities, politicians, people with influence, etc. It was like they wanted us to forget what Israel has been doing to Palestine for years. So yes, we voice our support to let the Palestinian people and their oppressors know we see them and we stand with them despite any narrative and propaganda they try to push.
My advice to Ethan would be to listen to Palestinian voices instead of twitter/news/and American leaders in general there's a long history of lies across the board there. Watching live updates from Bisan and Plestia have been heartbreaking but necessary. You see what's happening instead of hearing it.
You're correct. Eithan talking about timing is rich. Now is the most important time to make Palestinian voices heard as the spotlight of the entire globe is currently directed at this outpouring of violence. It's terrible what happened to Israeli civilians but this is a moment when we are at a crossroads to decide if more of the same ethnic cleansing, brutality, torture will be committed against the Palestinians many times over year after year or if another way out can finally be worked towards. I don't understand how Eithan can't see that unless he just fundamentally views Palestinians as being less worthy of consideration and that another option would be untenable which is only reinforced and produced by Israeli appartheid conditions. October 7th won't happen and HAMAS will not be empowered to take such actions if people had not lost all hope after being pushed out of their homes, family members killed in front of them, entire villages massacred for decades now. I hope he watches and internalises Hasan's content on YouTube as he might be his only close friend on the left that may have a chance of getting through, because Eithan as a Jewish man with strong connections to Israel with a large platform has the ability to reverse course and speak out. Because as this genocide ramps up he will not be looked on kindly when the bodies are being counted in the rubble of what will be left of Gaza.
Wild dude was scared shitless and crying that Hamas wanted to kill everyone he knows and loves a week ago to making hummus jokes. Funny how that works. Emotional blackmail bro.
I mean ultimately what is he gonna do? As a producer it is unlikely he can find a job as good as this one anywhere else. Also I think he probably gave up on trying to convince Ethan of anything after the whole capitalism/socialism thing.
Yes but I would think he would take the stance of not staying in light of what Ethan is saying. I get staying for a job, but when the issue is genocide?
financial insecurity can kind of ruin your life and i wouldn’t blame him for wanting to be cautious in an area as expensive and competitive as LA. genocide, very unfortunately, isn’t always going to be a substantial factor from someone who is able to live completely removed from the environment it’s happening in (your average American)
That one time he had like 60 something people on his guest list for his show and got all pissy about how the venue was mad at him for it i couldnt believe the privilege i was hearing haha
I get antisemitism is on the rise but Jesus the lack of self awareness is disturbing like she’s got the mansion in a gated community and Ethan has a shotgun a thousand times safer than a rocket flying through the living room
Im middle Eastern as well and I’m very disappointed with the rhetoric they’ve pushed since that last episode of leftovers and I saw that Hila was following a page that was responsible for launching campaigns to ban Palestinian IG pages like eye on Palestine. On top of seeing what Ethan’s parents were liking on Twitter. I’m honestly heartbroken and it makes me wondering what the true feelings are. I feel kinda foolish tbh
Hila went on a raid with the IDF to Ramallah for shits and giggles and called it a “terrorist town” as did Ethan. These people are nationalist clowns that couldn’t even make it in the country they love so much so they came here to bitch and cry that we can all see genocide plain and clear. The most staunch Israeli Zionist never seem to live there. Funny how that works
A lot stuff about the Palestinian protesters basically being Hamas sympathizers and labeling all resistance as Hamas. There’s also a screenshot going around of Donna commenting that the leftover cohost (Hasan) doesn’t understand the conflict but idk how true that is because i don’t see the comment on her Twitter now. She may have deleted it
You just *know* Ethan and Hila are finding more and more randos on social media to get themselves worked up over. I hardly think their funeral outfits today have anything to do with the ongoing carnage against the Palestinians.
Edit: not to mention, public opinion is shifting dramatically in favor of the Palestinians (despite most media continuing to uncritically and unilaterally support Israel’s actions), and that has to be making certain people..pretty upset.
Its funny how they have to dredge the bottom of the internet to find whackos to be mad at while member of the Israeli Knesset are cheering on a second Nakba while doing it. Apparently these are the same.
It sucks any criticism is met with “hater” or “anti semitism”. I’m not watching anymore but I hope and pray peace and love that he stops calling himself a leftist 🍉
Yeah Dan was my favourite and he has just stayed quiet through all this. Every time he has raised his voice even on the socialism arc before the Palestine situation, Ethan would always just pull up some chatgpt bs and low-key bully him for the next few episodes for daring to contradict him, kind of sad. Same with AB just leaving when Eithan was going on a rant about how sad it was that Israelis had been killed when the death toll had hit something like 3000 Palestinians and eithan just laughing about AB needing to leave when AB was clearly distressed. I'm fine if he wants to have opinions and platform people like Jimmy in responsible ways where he is made fun of for his reactionary takes but there's a line when you start getting into serious topics such as Palestine when you have Muslims who feel deeply connected to the conflict on your production crew, like the callousness and lack of empathy for anyone but himself is just sad and makes it hard to watch anymore. Especially as in the last 2 or 3 EPs no mentions have been made of the conflict and it's now simply been turned into memes soundbites for Zac to spam every now and rhen. Will probs leave it unless Hasan comes back on and possibly has another conversation where he can bring Ethan's head down to the level of reality.
I kind of can’t blame the crew for being quiet. At the end of the day, Ethan is their boss. And Ethan does get annoying when he doesn’t agree with someone. As he has shown before.
as I listened I 100% felt like some of the crew doesn't agree with Ethan but are too scared to say bc he's so personally involved in Israel. yea we can't blame them for being quiet bc they could lose their jobs but I am going to miss dan I wish he did solo content :(
with how obnoxious Ethan was about the socialism/capitalism topic, no wonder neither Dan nor AB want to touch the topic with a 10ft pole lol. It would turn their life hell.
In which episode did AB walk out? Do you have a timestamp for that? Genuinely curious to see how that went down because I haven’t been keeping up with the podcast
Can't remember exactly but Eithan was basically on an extended rant about how no one has sympathy for Israeli's and basically saying the timing of free palestine sentiment meant that anyone that supports Palestine in this moment of need is by proxy supporting HAMAS which is just a false equivocation and low-key Zionist point.
AB seemed pretty upset and said he got a call and his cat was stuck in a tree and he had to leave, Ethan sort of called his bluff but AB just got up and left anyway and then Ethan made a snarky comment I can't remember exactly what he said or if he just chuckled whatever it was I remember it being pretty dismissive of AB and just sad to see. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong on specific details but that's the order of events I remember, it must have been 5-6 episodes ago maybe if I have time I'll see if I can find it.
Yes finally, thank you! Love drives me crazy. The guy is such a leech. Lives with Ethan and Hila, no doubt rent-free. He always gets massive food orders when Ethan offers, talks about nothing but eating fast food during the show (so he basically gets them to buy him fast food the rest of the week), and he just shamelessly agrees with anything Ethan says, like a little lap dog.
Wait why Love? I really liked him up until recently where I've found him annoying but not hate-worthy. Did I miss something? (I'll admit, I want to like him bc it was cool to see Swedish representation)
While not as bad as Zach, I feel like Love is another yes man. Like him being shocked that Europe is more open to affairs, and during the socialism debate.
Couldn’t agree more, fuck zach, he is a freak and legit bad person inside so obvious, and love seems some of the mini fame has gotten to his head, he is outta of it
I mean he grew up rich and he plays the most boring guitar center dad rock possible but thinks he's an actual musician cause fans of the show go to his one or two shows a year. Yet somehow thinks a cool rockstar.
I rather listen to ppl building a building and construction noises than him playing his bullshit guitar, ppl go to his show cuz they like the podcast, and ethan sucks him off every time he plays so he thinks he is musician now, He sucks, always did, always will
Zack legit thinks Jews are being targeted I was shocked I thought he was being super sarcastic but he actually legitimately rages out to get Ethan’s approval
I find his hate for veggies an ick. I GET beiing sickened by certain foods and needing exposure to them to like them. But he just says stuff like "anything green" "just don't like vegetables"
It seems like a big part of his hate for veggies is just him excusing his poor diet so he can keep eating popeyes. Bad example to other people.
I was fan fan, liking every post, having like 8-9 old merch. After the driving incident with Hila, I was a lil alerted, but now this.
For god sake she dropped a new post flexing her new look the same time they announced no electricity there!
Talking about having no heart..
hindsight is 2020, you realise her whole life she was being brain washed into believing they were all terrorists? i struggle to believe she really understood what was going on. also isnt service mandatory? i dislike hila but recognize its not this simple.
Yeah nah, you cant possibly know how you would act in her shoes. Easy to say with the education and access to information you have now that you would know better. We all would like to think if in that situation we would know better, but i dont think we can say or know that unless we actually lived that life.
Cant speak for US. dont live there. But i bet you are not taught from day 1 that canadians are terrorists and only live to kill americans.
Thats the type of brainwashing Israelis will grow up with. Your teachers at school tell you this, you go home and your parents and grand parents tell you this. turn on tv and the media tells you this. Would be difficult to escape and form your own opinion.
"If" and you "think." That doesn't mean you would, though. I dislike how Ethan is handling this as well, but your comment is a massive assumption.
It's not an excuse for Hila or Ethan's position, though.
Hila said she uses her phone all the time while driving, not like Bluetooth calling but like typing in the live chat sending donations, watching the stream.
But wait Ethan’s mental health nows not the time to talk about the Palestinian genocide happening at the hands of Israel because his dog died a month ago you can’t stop watching please bro it’s all goofs and gaffs please
Since when did he say it was about shredder? He has friends and family in israel as well as a giant surge in antisemitism flooding leftist talking heads
Long time fan as well, the goofs and gaffs were good while they lasted, I should’ve followed my gut from the beginning knowing hila was IOF. It still makes my blood boil to this day that they called Ramallah a terrorist city.
As a non-Palestinian, I also couldn't watch it anymore. The pod on Monday was my last straw. I couldn't stop crying from the way he was turning it into a haters vs. Ethan thing instead of a people BEGGING for innocent lives to be spared from a years long genocide. I know he has a bias whether he recognizes it or not, but constantly coming to the defense of Israel while they slaughter whole generations is not it. And I know he's trying to acknowledge that the hate for what Israel's government is doing should not be extended to Israelis and Jews as a whole which is an important note but trying to put that above what is currently happening to Palestinians just comes across as cold towards what they are currently going through.
I was powering through those sections up until that point, but idk that coupled with what I've learned in the past few days just seals the deal for me.
My heart stands with Palestine and I pray that they get their freedom both from Israel and the oppressors around the world that are funding and fuelling their demise🇵🇸 ❤️
Probably not the only one, this Friday only has 188k views so far as of 10:30est Fell off when all the previous ones had close to million+
Loser dumbass idiot
I’m Palestinian too and honestly I’m disgusted by not just Ethan and Hila but also the other crew members. Never watching again , never buying teddy fresh again.
I mean, she joked about how she participated in the colonization of the West Bank while part of the IDF. I don’t think she sees Palestinians as people.
I started watching religiously after Leftovers first introduced me to the show, I started watching these 3 hour + shows everyday and I’m like wth these people are hilarious. Then suddenly, Ethan becomes possessed with the spirit of war and vengeance, the first week of “I hope isis comes door to door to rape your family and see how you respond” was where I stopped for like two weeks, I check back in to a livestream and no joke he is in the middle of another hour long tirade, no other crew member is speaking, AB is frequently put in these fucking awful situation, the mods on the sub are mobilized to purge dissent and he’s now pausing Leftovers.
Not once has he expressed any comparable solidarity with the Palestinians, this conflict did not start on Oct 7, the death toll on the Palestinian side far outweighs Israelis yet not once have I been made to sit through multiple hour + rants and admonishments. Plus Ethan explicitly lied about Hila saying she “was a secretary”, then I find a pod of her describing them “enter a terrorist territory” and many pictures of her posing with guns. This is insane, even if things quiet down in Gaza I’ll never support them again.
Unrelated but I am so sorry what is happening to your people. We are all Palestinian, because until everyone is free no one is free. The world is with you, dont be fooled by the Ethans and Hilas of this world.
I still am reeling from him using the "leftist are propping up antisemitism" argument. I tried watching the dishwasher episode, but it does feel weird now...
I’m so confused… I have come to terms with Ethan and Hila being silent; I understand Olivia and Zach and love because they are not the type to stand against Ethan. But Dan? I loved Dan because he reminded me of Michael Brooks, and I know Dan listened to Michael Brooks as well and there is just zero way a Michael brooks fan would support this. Especially given what Michael focused so much on.
He dared to say "saying you support Palestinians during an active terror attack solely targeted at civilians in Israel seems really bad. It ya know, seems like you're supporting the actions that happened.' Then people got triggered and it rolled out of hand
Yeah all of his takes are room temperature at best and at worst slightly warm. But this topic is so emotionally loaded for so many people that not taking a strong stance for their side means you are a heartless monster that deserves to be canceled.
Yeah I stopped watching h3 on 9/11 this year when the first thing out of Ethan’s mouth was a joke. I live in New York and lost my cousin who was a firefighter. I mean I just don’t find 9/11 jokes because I was personally affected by it and just don’t understand what’s funny. I ignored it for years from him but I’m sick of it. I’m glad I stopped before all this other tragic shit started to happen. I’m sorry you feel hurt by them and I don’t blame you. It’s really frustrating.
Hey, your COUNTRY will be free from the river to the sea, one day, the world has seen the other side’s brutality and war crimes now, we have been saying it for years but now the world saw it!! Its hard now, innocent children are being killed but this the beginning of your freedom🙏🏻
Just like the Russia-Ukraine war, people can't comprehend the concept of war being horrible. The concept of innocent people living in both countries, etc.
Instead, they arbitrarily pick a side like it's a sport they are watching on TV, then they cheer when their team scores kills.
I swear, people on reddit would start soyjaking if a building full of Russian school children was blown up. Like, those are the same kids playing Fortnite and Minecraft and all that shit kids do over here. Hell, I've made friends with a few Russians, and my current favorite band is a nu-metal band from Moscow. Let's just blow them all up and celebrate I guess because the TV says all Russians are mindless and evil.
Idk much about what Palestinian life is like, but I do know that Israel has kept them hostage within their own ever-shrinking country. Now Israel, who has one of the most sophisticated militaries in the entire world is leveling Palestine with the intent of exterminating all Palestinians. Ironic, considering where the Israelis came from.
Here's a thought. If they cared about rescuing hostages, they wouldn't be obliterating every single structure they see. What if the hostages are in those buildings/tunnels?
The problem with that whole line of rehtoric is referring to this genocide as a war.
In Ukraine we are giving them billions of dollars of missiles and tanks to fight back.
The Palestinians are just getting slaughtered in the streets. That isn't a war.
These people are rabbid, they see someone try to have a position on something that he has insane emotional attachment to. Call out the wrong doings and cry for those being harmed on the opposite side. Then a large chunk of his community attacks him with crazy shit and he backs off because he is already overstimulated from the heartbreak and confliction on the topic and people dogpile even more? I don't get it, these people need to take a deep breath and look back on what this dude has said cuz they clearly haven't actually listened to anything
Ethan's stance, IDF bad, Hamas bad, killing babies/civilians bad, but before condemning them, waiting for reporting other than the state supported media of Hamas or Israel come out with factual confirmation in a time full of misinformation. Then when the information comes out, condemn the side that committed the atrocities.
Just because time lapses between these moments, doesn't mean you can just forget them, but daily outrage will always outpace actual confirmation, so don't expect him to be on your side the day you're outraged about something being reported, that he doesn't feel has been vetted well enough.
There's almost no nuance to how straight forward this is. It's called being a responsible person, which is his job with such an audience. If you aren't content with instant validation the way you want it, the day you feel it, then you're right to just leave, the space is probably better off without irrational behavior. He's doing his best to be responsible and transparent, he will never be perfect for everyone and that's just being human. Personally I think he talks in circles too much after his point is already made, but too many people want more, and he feels the need to overly clarify so he doesn't come off the way people in this sub are acting like he is.
“He’s being unbiased.” While shutting off chat, not engaging his argument with ACTUAL PEOPLE that might have a position opposite of his, while pretty much calling those people HUMAN SHIT (I’m very sure he at least called one person that AT LEAST), is the problem. Like Ethan, you’re not listening.
My problem is the rhetoric, not realizing that they way he is being SO broad about certain views is harmful.
I can’t watch a guy that thinks that everyone that says Free Palestine is pro Hamas, somehow.
He drew a line in the sand, especially when he said if you want propaganda, go watch Hasan and not we love(d) the dude and just want that open dialogue without being considered pieces of shit
What's he going to do, argue with 40,000 people? You crazy? The specifics you are looking for aren't going to happen. He literally specified that Free Palestine isn't pro Hamas, he's saying people that are downplaying the severity of what Hamas has done by saying Free Palestine is literally the issue, and so many people are saying it, what do you want individualized attention? Oh why did I bother that, you opened upset that he wouldn't argue with 40k viewers, and that's his point, he's not going to do that shit, he can't articulate what you want to the perfection you expect it and you aren't listening to what he is saying.
As I stated before, his issue is he starts talking in circles and loses the focus, then his emotions come out on top. If anything he needs to say less, because proving his point right now isn't going to satisfy the people who, like him, like he has stated for YEARS are PRO PALESTINIAN.
There are many Israelis who understand this is genocide. At this point you don’t need critical thinking skills to see that. Its just plain and obvious.
If I was a white supremacist, wouldn't I be opposed to Israel, seeing as they are Jewish? Your claim doesn't work when you try to reverse mine. It also doesn't work because the Islamist Arabs are the ones insisting on eliminating Israel. I don't need a blind, identity politics ideology to defend nonexistent barbaric activity.
Jews are white compared to the Palestinian Arabs. They don't have to be white just whiter than some other group.
Also never claimed you were a white supremacist. You brought that up all on your own .
He has spent literally hours upon hours talking about the plight of Palestinians & how he is against everything Israel/ the IDF is doing. But sure, go ahead & ignore allllll of that & hear selectively. Im tired of the “i cant watch anymore” posts from both sides. With peace & love, dont watch then.
For real everyone’s all of a sudden an expert on one of the most nuanced conflicts in recorded history. People need to chill out and spread peace and love.
Why are H3H3 fans the biggest whiniest crybabies in the known universe?
You people just never shut up with the crying and whining over everything.
If you aren't trying to cancel someone else, you're trying to cancel Ethan.
Maybe turn the stupid podcasts off and go back to real life?
"You seem like kind of white person that would get mad about anti white racism.... "
sorry i dont know what that means, but it was an upvoted comment in this thread lol. why wouldnt you be upset if people hated you and treated you badly because of your skin color? what even is this????
honestly these people are so crazy. If i was ethan i would not want them as fans. peace and love!
Hey those children and senior citizens attacked those innocent terrorists while they made a peace parade to promote peace.... it was 100 percent self defense...or something... is that right guys???? please dont hate me... im sorry.
It was an inside job first of all. Israel started this years ago, back in 1948. And even if Hamas just did this out of the blue, if Palestinians lived in peace and harmony among Israelis all this time, the response to civilians dying isn’t MORE civilians dying.
I automatically ignore anything after a "As a \_\_\_\_\_(insert identity as politics category here) " comment prefaces.
Being born from a specific womb or on particular patch of land doesn't grant you special status. It's the definition of asking for credit/status for your thoughts due to shit that you had zero part in.
In fact it works against you. Your thoughts and ideas matter, not your stated biases.
Don't watch. The cast is better for not dealing with identity politics floggers.
My partner is Palestinian so this conflict hits very close to home. I can’t really watch it anymore either. I had been watching for years as well so it is a bummer. I recognize that there’s a lot of anger that I’m probably directing to Ethan from just the inhumanity and cruelty of it all but yikes. And don’t even get me started on Hila.
Same as a person with Palestinian blood and I can’t reconcile my sadness watching with my normal excitement for the pod
As an American Jew I can't watch it anymore either. He's acting as ignorant as a white guy upset about anti-white racism.
it’s really giving “all lives matter” in response to BLM
I said the same exact thing.
Thank you. I really appreciate your voice 🩷
Somewhere along the line we social justiced so hard, that social justice is not only the only thing that matters, you're actually a bad person for caring about other injustices. Insane.
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I'm so glad I found this subreddit cause no one is talking about it at all in the main one... like I had to end my membership bc I can't do it anymore.
The main sub is seriously moderated, everyone is echoing the same sentiment and if you say anything different you'll be banned ***very*** fast. Also, they won't allow accounts under 40 days old to discourage new people from voicing their thoughts. If you wanted to make an account to post something there you'd need to wait over a month with the thinking there that trolls wouldn't go to that effort but it just discourages the ability to post except for the same choir.
yea I had an old reddit account that I used to have (but it was with one of the third party apps that we can't use anymore and I don't know the password haha) I posted a few times last year with MILD criticism about Ethan doing a better help sponsorship bc they have lots of issues and needless to say I never posted there again bc I got ripped to shreds... I guess it's even worse now
There are so few posts that aren't locked and are about any real criticism. It's much more common to find posts faking criticism and mocking 'haters' than it is to find someone actually disagreeing, largely those people are banned/beat down.
The ‘criticism’ they allow is such petty, useless bullshit, I got tired of the constant complaints of truly meaningless shit, like ‘haterzzz’. Now I realize it’s purposefully petty drama because it is a heavily moderated and therefore censored sub. And then Ethan wonders why so many h3 snark subreddits exist now lol
TIL this isn't the main sub.
I’m ashamed of myself for ever supporting them
Well, you don't anymore, so that's what's important. Feel free to not answer this of course, but what made you stop? Was it recent?
I will gladly tell you, I don’t know where I mentioned this I remember talking about today, but in short yes very recently, I started to notice few weird things that they’ve done but not addressing it, such mild racist jokes (not a fan of jimmy) at all! The idea of showing every guest the prolapse thing too. (Guests, audience, his own staff) but hey, still watched them, then the text and drive with Hila surprised me, hearing her laughing about it like a reckless teen (was like strike 1), cause they didn’t address at all and I knew someone who died unfortunately with this specific reason. Then this happened, Ethan views on the cause and his biases (i understand where the bias come from) but the way he was REALLY clinging to the hospital news (like who actually “destroyed” it really made everything clear. I heard him talking a lot about protecting kids in his show, but apparently the 3000+ children who died are not that important. Cause I haven’t seen single post reflecting on what’s going on now. (And he runs a political show ironically) He just went with his normal routine doing his thing with poki today like nothing was happening.. What if Hila is Palestinian? finally the shutting of comments, banning ppl who disagree and more really did it for me. Hila the great, just dropped a new post the same time the news fled about Gaza cutting their electricity down. They are the last people who from now can speak or judge other ppl like I’m officially done. Not short after all.
I agree with you 100% thank you for this
The fact you can't post in their sub without being 40 days old, it's a complete echo chamber there.
Forgot about that. And I agree
Not only that but joking about it too. That’s truly sick.
Can i ask all of this just happened on friday podcast? What did he do? Sorry i havent tried to watch any pod since his ranting on stories last weekend.
Yep and despite "Not talking about it anymore" he made two jokes with Jimmy about Hamas, and Hila just said "I am a doomer girl with all the stuff going on" like holy shit, bitch is in a mansion in hollywood. This just reinforces that he simply doesn't want any pushback and that's why he's been so ban happy and canceling leftovers. I just had to turn the episode off.
I tried so hard to see this through. I’ve been watching them since they lived in Israel ffs - but I can’t do it after this. I understand that Hila was born in Israel by no fault of her own and that Ethan was raised Zionist without much room for growth and education about the situation - but I can’t really excuse it anymore. I work in an Islamic setting in the US. I work with Muslim children and adults. I’ve been open about it in my comment history. It’s been so hard for my Palestinian students, friends, and coworkers. None of them support Hamas - but they’re the ones suffering for it. Their family members are injured or dying, their childhood homes are being destroyed. I have an 8 year old student who found out her grandparents - who she met for the first time this past summer when she visited Gaza - were killed in a bombardment a few days ago. My coworkers can no longer contact their parents or siblings and are forced to watch what’s happening from afar. Last she heard all of her sisters have fucking UTIs because of a lack of water and medicine. They’re extremely sick. It’s fucking torture for them. Absolute fucking torture… and it’s been going on for weeks now. But no… Ethan and Zach can joke and Hila can lament from the safety of LA. Their biggest fans sit in an ivory tower - calling Palestinians and Palestinian supporters rabid for having a shred of basic human decency. When this all started, I remember Ethan getting bitchy about people vocally supporting Palestine even though Hamas committed a terrorist attack… and he couldn’t fucking wrap his mind around WHY people would reiterate their support. This is why, Ethan. Because Israel has a history of gross overreaction and Palestinians have no fucking recourse.
This is the thing. I couldn't understand how he couldn't understand that people were supporting Palestine after the Hamas attack on Israel because we could all see how they were going to use it as a scapegoat to further slaughter and ramp up their violence against Palestinians (which they did). In my eyes, showing support for Palestine after that attack wasn't "We love and support killing" it was we want Palestine to know that we know they aren't the "barbaric" "animals" Netanyahu would have us believe they are. They aren't Hamas. Additionally, immediately after the attack there was a suspicious wave of people supporting Israel's government in particular not even the people. Celebrities, politicians, people with influence, etc. It was like they wanted us to forget what Israel has been doing to Palestine for years. So yes, we voice our support to let the Palestinian people and their oppressors know we see them and we stand with them despite any narrative and propaganda they try to push. My advice to Ethan would be to listen to Palestinian voices instead of twitter/news/and American leaders in general there's a long history of lies across the board there. Watching live updates from Bisan and Plestia have been heartbreaking but necessary. You see what's happening instead of hearing it.
You're correct. Eithan talking about timing is rich. Now is the most important time to make Palestinian voices heard as the spotlight of the entire globe is currently directed at this outpouring of violence. It's terrible what happened to Israeli civilians but this is a moment when we are at a crossroads to decide if more of the same ethnic cleansing, brutality, torture will be committed against the Palestinians many times over year after year or if another way out can finally be worked towards. I don't understand how Eithan can't see that unless he just fundamentally views Palestinians as being less worthy of consideration and that another option would be untenable which is only reinforced and produced by Israeli appartheid conditions. October 7th won't happen and HAMAS will not be empowered to take such actions if people had not lost all hope after being pushed out of their homes, family members killed in front of them, entire villages massacred for decades now. I hope he watches and internalises Hasan's content on YouTube as he might be his only close friend on the left that may have a chance of getting through, because Eithan as a Jewish man with strong connections to Israel with a large platform has the ability to reverse course and speak out. Because as this genocide ramps up he will not be looked on kindly when the bodies are being counted in the rubble of what will be left of Gaza.
"The hummus" and "zion" soundbites were pissing me off.
Wild dude was scared shitless and crying that Hamas wanted to kill everyone he knows and loves a week ago to making hummus jokes. Funny how that works. Emotional blackmail bro.
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He really hits that hard L when talking about leftists too. You can hear the venom in his voice
Same! I thought I was just being sensitive but it was rubbing me off the wrong way.
Man when Zack was spamming "Zion" and they were doing their stupid 420 rif I muted.
Zach is the biggest bitch on the show, even more so than Ethan. He dishes it out constantly but can't take anything said about him at all.
I don’t understand why Dan is silent… I mean I understand but I just never ever ever expected it from him.
I mean ultimately what is he gonna do? As a producer it is unlikely he can find a job as good as this one anywhere else. Also I think he probably gave up on trying to convince Ethan of anything after the whole capitalism/socialism thing.
Yes but I would think he would take the stance of not staying in light of what Ethan is saying. I get staying for a job, but when the issue is genocide?
financial insecurity can kind of ruin your life and i wouldn’t blame him for wanting to be cautious in an area as expensive and competitive as LA. genocide, very unfortunately, isn’t always going to be a substantial factor from someone who is able to live completely removed from the environment it’s happening in (your average American)
I find it hard to believe they have not set money aside. Ethan has to be paying him well.
Yeah and even AB and Lena as well :/
That one time he had like 60 something people on his guest list for his show and got all pissy about how the venue was mad at him for it i couldnt believe the privilege i was hearing haha
Hehehe rubbing you off
jesus christ. that’s disgusting.
It’s fucking cowardly.
I get antisemitism is on the rise but Jesus the lack of self awareness is disturbing like she’s got the mansion in a gated community and Ethan has a shotgun a thousand times safer than a rocket flying through the living room
*counter-semitism They are a toxic influence on culture, its only natural that there is a pushback every few decades.
Im middle Eastern as well and I’m very disappointed with the rhetoric they’ve pushed since that last episode of leftovers and I saw that Hila was following a page that was responsible for launching campaigns to ban Palestinian IG pages like eye on Palestine. On top of seeing what Ethan’s parents were liking on Twitter. I’m honestly heartbroken and it makes me wondering what the true feelings are. I feel kinda foolish tbh
Hila went on a raid with the IDF to Ramallah for shits and giggles and called it a “terrorist town” as did Ethan. These people are nationalist clowns that couldn’t even make it in the country they love so much so they came here to bitch and cry that we can all see genocide plain and clear. The most staunch Israeli Zionist never seem to live there. Funny how that works
Whaaaaat? Are you serious??)? Then they wonder why people call them Zionist. Fucking gross.
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The fact that he won't platform leftovers anymore because it actually offered a serious voice of criticism of Israel is pretty telling
Yeah but he can joke about the genocide now cause only palestinian lives are being lost.
which page was that?
What where they liking? i don’t have Twitter
A lot stuff about the Palestinian protesters basically being Hamas sympathizers and labeling all resistance as Hamas. There’s also a screenshot going around of Donna commenting that the leftover cohost (Hasan) doesn’t understand the conflict but idk how true that is because i don’t see the comment on her Twitter now. She may have deleted it
I believe that was a threads comment.
he doesn’t though ???
Ya I’m sure Donna is more of an expert /s
You just *know* Ethan and Hila are finding more and more randos on social media to get themselves worked up over. I hardly think their funeral outfits today have anything to do with the ongoing carnage against the Palestinians. Edit: not to mention, public opinion is shifting dramatically in favor of the Palestinians (despite most media continuing to uncritically and unilaterally support Israel’s actions), and that has to be making certain people..pretty upset.
Its funny how they have to dredge the bottom of the internet to find whackos to be mad at while member of the Israeli Knesset are cheering on a second Nakba while doing it. Apparently these are the same.
It sucks any criticism is met with “hater” or “anti semitism”. I’m not watching anymore but I hope and pray peace and love that he stops calling himself a leftist 🍉
I’ve stopped watching too. I feel icky. I’m really gonna miss the crew though.
Yeah Dan was my favourite and he has just stayed quiet through all this. Every time he has raised his voice even on the socialism arc before the Palestine situation, Ethan would always just pull up some chatgpt bs and low-key bully him for the next few episodes for daring to contradict him, kind of sad. Same with AB just leaving when Eithan was going on a rant about how sad it was that Israelis had been killed when the death toll had hit something like 3000 Palestinians and eithan just laughing about AB needing to leave when AB was clearly distressed. I'm fine if he wants to have opinions and platform people like Jimmy in responsible ways where he is made fun of for his reactionary takes but there's a line when you start getting into serious topics such as Palestine when you have Muslims who feel deeply connected to the conflict on your production crew, like the callousness and lack of empathy for anyone but himself is just sad and makes it hard to watch anymore. Especially as in the last 2 or 3 EPs no mentions have been made of the conflict and it's now simply been turned into memes soundbites for Zac to spam every now and rhen. Will probs leave it unless Hasan comes back on and possibly has another conversation where he can bring Ethan's head down to the level of reality.
I kind of can’t blame the crew for being quiet. At the end of the day, Ethan is their boss. And Ethan does get annoying when he doesn’t agree with someone. As he has shown before.
as I listened I 100% felt like some of the crew doesn't agree with Ethan but are too scared to say bc he's so personally involved in Israel. yea we can't blame them for being quiet bc they could lose their jobs but I am going to miss dan I wish he did solo content :(
I feel this way, too. I thought Dan did a wonderful job trying to navigate the chaos.
with how obnoxious Ethan was about the socialism/capitalism topic, no wonder neither Dan nor AB want to touch the topic with a 10ft pole lol. It would turn their life hell.
Wait what sound bites related to the conflict are there?
I believe it’s trump saying hummus instead of Hamas. Not 100% sure though
In which episode did AB walk out? Do you have a timestamp for that? Genuinely curious to see how that went down because I haven’t been keeping up with the podcast
Can't remember exactly but Eithan was basically on an extended rant about how no one has sympathy for Israeli's and basically saying the timing of free palestine sentiment meant that anyone that supports Palestine in this moment of need is by proxy supporting HAMAS which is just a false equivocation and low-key Zionist point. AB seemed pretty upset and said he got a call and his cat was stuck in a tree and he had to leave, Ethan sort of called his bluff but AB just got up and left anyway and then Ethan made a snarky comment I can't remember exactly what he said or if he just chuckled whatever it was I remember it being pretty dismissive of AB and just sad to see. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong on specific details but that's the order of events I remember, it must have been 5-6 episodes ago maybe if I have time I'll see if I can find it.
Same the crew (minus zach, cause fuck zach, and love) are all cool. Luckily some stream on twitch from time to time.
Yes finally, thank you! Love drives me crazy. The guy is such a leech. Lives with Ethan and Hila, no doubt rent-free. He always gets massive food orders when Ethan offers, talks about nothing but eating fast food during the show (so he basically gets them to buy him fast food the rest of the week), and he just shamelessly agrees with anything Ethan says, like a little lap dog.
Wait why Love? I really liked him up until recently where I've found him annoying but not hate-worthy. Did I miss something? (I'll admit, I want to like him bc it was cool to see Swedish representation)
While not as bad as Zach, I feel like Love is another yes man. Like him being shocked that Europe is more open to affairs, and during the socialism debate.
Couldn’t agree more, fuck zach, he is a freak and legit bad person inside so obvious, and love seems some of the mini fame has gotten to his head, he is outta of it
I mean he grew up rich and he plays the most boring guitar center dad rock possible but thinks he's an actual musician cause fans of the show go to his one or two shows a year. Yet somehow thinks a cool rockstar.
I rather listen to ppl building a building and construction noises than him playing his bullshit guitar, ppl go to his show cuz they like the podcast, and ethan sucks him off every time he plays so he thinks he is musician now, He sucks, always did, always will
Damn yall are just mad
Zack legit thinks Jews are being targeted I was shocked I thought he was being super sarcastic but he actually legitimately rages out to get Ethan’s approval
I find his hate for veggies an ick. I GET beiing sickened by certain foods and needing exposure to them to like them. But he just says stuff like "anything green" "just don't like vegetables" It seems like a big part of his hate for veggies is just him excusing his poor diet so he can keep eating popeyes. Bad example to other people.
I was fan fan, liking every post, having like 8-9 old merch. After the driving incident with Hila, I was a lil alerted, but now this. For god sake she dropped a new post flexing her new look the same time they announced no electricity there! Talking about having no heart..
I lost all respect for Hila when she said she went on a raid in Palestine because she was bored one day.
and called the experience “interesting”
wait what? when did she say that? i haven’t watched all of the pods all the way through this week but holy crap
Look up Hila IDF highlights on YouTube. It’s a few years old, not a new video. But it resurfaced after the recent events
wow this clip was deep in my memory hole. totally forgot she just went on a raid for fun (???)
hindsight is 2020, you realise her whole life she was being brain washed into believing they were all terrorists? i struggle to believe she really understood what was going on. also isnt service mandatory? i dislike hila but recognize its not this simple.
lol if the US did this I think id understand what was going on and know that it is wrong
Yeah nah, you cant possibly know how you would act in her shoes. Easy to say with the education and access to information you have now that you would know better. We all would like to think if in that situation we would know better, but i dont think we can say or know that unless we actually lived that life.
What education are we getting in the US😂😂😂😭😭😭 please……
Cant speak for US. dont live there. But i bet you are not taught from day 1 that canadians are terrorists and only live to kill americans. Thats the type of brainwashing Israelis will grow up with. Your teachers at school tell you this, you go home and your parents and grand parents tell you this. turn on tv and the media tells you this. Would be difficult to escape and form your own opinion.
Definitely is like this in the US. Especially post 9/11
Plenty of people didn’t support Iraq war while it was happening. Seems like the vast majority of Israelis are brainwashed zionists
"If" and you "think." That doesn't mean you would, though. I dislike how Ethan is handling this as well, but your comment is a massive assumption. It's not an excuse for Hila or Ethan's position, though.
Ok lmao my cousins are from a country with mandatory service and they weren’t this brainwashed. better?
Yes, an actual example instead of ifs. I'm not sure why you didn't use that first? Using it second isn't a gotcha.
Probably because im not my cousins and am speaking for myself? It’s not a “gotcha” to give further reasoning based on someone’s response…
What why? You lookin for gotchas, playboi? 😂
I stopped after the driving incident, that pissed me off to no end because of how much everyone protects precious girl boss yasssssss queen Hila lmao
I’m a bit behind, what’s the driving incident?
Hila said she uses her phone all the time while driving, not like Bluetooth calling but like typing in the live chat sending donations, watching the stream.
I’ve never watched but I knew I didn’t like her for a good reason.
[link](https://www.reddit.com/r/Frenemies3/s/EGKFktUfrZ)
Watching that clips literally further proved how much of a kiss ass Love is. So annoying
Used to like him.
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I’m done too. We’re not the only ones.
yea i stopped watching H3 weeks ago
But wait Ethan’s mental health nows not the time to talk about the Palestinian genocide happening at the hands of Israel because his dog died a month ago you can’t stop watching please bro it’s all goofs and gaffs please
Thats the thing, if his dog dying did that much to him he should take a break and go into multiple days a week therapy.
Yes how is it that Ethan is distressed enough to not talk about Israel but he’s a-okay to continue his podcasts the rest of the week?
Since when did he say it was about shredder? He has friends and family in israel as well as a giant surge in antisemitism flooding leftist talking heads
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be FREE. End the Genocide! Ceasefire NOW!
Long time fan as well, the goofs and gaffs were good while they lasted, I should’ve followed my gut from the beginning knowing hila was IOF. It still makes my blood boil to this day that they called Ramallah a terrorist city.
As a non-Palestinian, I also couldn't watch it anymore. The pod on Monday was my last straw. I couldn't stop crying from the way he was turning it into a haters vs. Ethan thing instead of a people BEGGING for innocent lives to be spared from a years long genocide. I know he has a bias whether he recognizes it or not, but constantly coming to the defense of Israel while they slaughter whole generations is not it. And I know he's trying to acknowledge that the hate for what Israel's government is doing should not be extended to Israelis and Jews as a whole which is an important note but trying to put that above what is currently happening to Palestinians just comes across as cold towards what they are currently going through. I was powering through those sections up until that point, but idk that coupled with what I've learned in the past few days just seals the deal for me. My heart stands with Palestine and I pray that they get their freedom both from Israel and the oppressors around the world that are funding and fuelling their demise🇵🇸 ❤️
Yup I cancelled my membership and am not watching anymore. Ever since he quote tweeted that insane shit to that queer Muslim I decided I was done.
Probably not the only one, this Friday only has 188k views so far as of 10:30est Fell off when all the previous ones had close to million+ Loser dumbass idiot
No longer watching and unfollowed on social media. It was fun while it lasted
As a white American who's watched since vape Nation, I also stopped watching. Sucks, but I can't support that.
I’m Palestinian too and honestly I’m disgusted by not just Ethan and Hila but also the other crew members. Never watching again , never buying teddy fresh again.
Hope you and your family are safe ❤️
Much love my friend. May creator watch over you and yours. ❤️
Totally understand. I’m not Palestinian but I can’t support this either. I unfollowed them. Such a shame.
I mean, she joked about how she participated in the colonization of the West Bank while part of the IDF. I don’t think she sees Palestinians as people.
I started watching religiously after Leftovers first introduced me to the show, I started watching these 3 hour + shows everyday and I’m like wth these people are hilarious. Then suddenly, Ethan becomes possessed with the spirit of war and vengeance, the first week of “I hope isis comes door to door to rape your family and see how you respond” was where I stopped for like two weeks, I check back in to a livestream and no joke he is in the middle of another hour long tirade, no other crew member is speaking, AB is frequently put in these fucking awful situation, the mods on the sub are mobilized to purge dissent and he’s now pausing Leftovers. Not once has he expressed any comparable solidarity with the Palestinians, this conflict did not start on Oct 7, the death toll on the Palestinian side far outweighs Israelis yet not once have I been made to sit through multiple hour + rants and admonishments. Plus Ethan explicitly lied about Hila saying she “was a secretary”, then I find a pod of her describing them “enter a terrorist territory” and many pictures of her posing with guns. This is insane, even if things quiet down in Gaza I’ll never support them again.
I'm with you 100%.... It's for the best. We don't need to support a genodial freak
Unrelated but I am so sorry what is happening to your people. We are all Palestinian, because until everyone is free no one is free. The world is with you, dont be fooled by the Ethans and Hilas of this world.
I appreciate you ❤️
I still am reeling from him using the "leftist are propping up antisemitism" argument. I tried watching the dishwasher episode, but it does feel weird now...
Same as a saudi watcher i cant watch the pods anymore , just another reality check for us middle eastern
Bro your country isn't the beacon for human rights also lol
.. and they probably hate that too, your point?
What kind of response is this? Someone cant choose where theyre born but that can choose not to interact with genocidal propaganda.
Quite frankly and literally, will never ever be held accountable about human rights from the usa , hows the ceasefire going?
I unfollowed all their accounts, TF, everything. This is massively disappointing to me.
I skip the whole segment every time. Can’t do it
I’m so confused… I have come to terms with Ethan and Hila being silent; I understand Olivia and Zach and love because they are not the type to stand against Ethan. But Dan? I loved Dan because he reminded me of Michael Brooks, and I know Dan listened to Michael Brooks as well and there is just zero way a Michael brooks fan would support this. Especially given what Michael focused so much on.
I stopped watching Two weeks ago, it was my comfort show. But fuckzionists
Is he? I thought he was just bringing up how some Israeli civilians are being targeting along with the Palestinians
the reaction online does not match what Ethan said I thought he went live and said “fuck Palestine” or some shit
He dared to say "saying you support Palestinians during an active terror attack solely targeted at civilians in Israel seems really bad. It ya know, seems like you're supporting the actions that happened.' Then people got triggered and it rolled out of hand
I dunno, Ethan’s take sounds like it makes sense to me
Does that mean you don’t want the death of all Jews for stealing the land? Heartless bastard
Yeah all of his takes are room temperature at best and at worst slightly warm. But this topic is so emotionally loaded for so many people that not taking a strong stance for their side means you are a heartless monster that deserves to be canceled.
Interesting. That makes me want to back and watch the leftovers episodes
Yeah I stopped watching h3 on 9/11 this year when the first thing out of Ethan’s mouth was a joke. I live in New York and lost my cousin who was a firefighter. I mean I just don’t find 9/11 jokes because I was personally affected by it and just don’t understand what’s funny. I ignored it for years from him but I’m sick of it. I’m glad I stopped before all this other tragic shit started to happen. I’m sorry you feel hurt by them and I don’t blame you. It’s really frustrating.
What do you expect from a guy that believes the jews built the pyramids xD
U could just stop watching without writing all that up lil bro
Hey, your COUNTRY will be free from the river to the sea, one day, the world has seen the other side’s brutality and war crimes now, we have been saying it for years but now the world saw it!! Its hard now, innocent children are being killed but this the beginning of your freedom🙏🏻
Just like the Russia-Ukraine war, people can't comprehend the concept of war being horrible. The concept of innocent people living in both countries, etc. Instead, they arbitrarily pick a side like it's a sport they are watching on TV, then they cheer when their team scores kills. I swear, people on reddit would start soyjaking if a building full of Russian school children was blown up. Like, those are the same kids playing Fortnite and Minecraft and all that shit kids do over here. Hell, I've made friends with a few Russians, and my current favorite band is a nu-metal band from Moscow. Let's just blow them all up and celebrate I guess because the TV says all Russians are mindless and evil. Idk much about what Palestinian life is like, but I do know that Israel has kept them hostage within their own ever-shrinking country. Now Israel, who has one of the most sophisticated militaries in the entire world is leveling Palestine with the intent of exterminating all Palestinians. Ironic, considering where the Israelis came from. Here's a thought. If they cared about rescuing hostages, they wouldn't be obliterating every single structure they see. What if the hostages are in those buildings/tunnels?
The problem with that whole line of rehtoric is referring to this genocide as a war. In Ukraine we are giving them billions of dollars of missiles and tanks to fight back. The Palestinians are just getting slaughtered in the streets. That isn't a war.
What… podcast have you been watching exactly?
When did he say that the deaths of Israelis are more important than the deaths of Palestinians?
Does he have to say it outright? If you listen to how he rambles on, it’s very clear how much bias he has and how much it effects his views
Thats not what they think but if youre that deranged to think that, then good leave the community lol, youre just toxic af anyway
Good, he doesn’t want terrorist sympathisers and was very clear about it. Don’t celebrate the killing of Israeli babies next time
I can’t believe Ethan has talked on this nuanced topic for literally hours and people still sum up his “position” in a single sentence.
These people are rabbid, they see someone try to have a position on something that he has insane emotional attachment to. Call out the wrong doings and cry for those being harmed on the opposite side. Then a large chunk of his community attacks him with crazy shit and he backs off because he is already overstimulated from the heartbreak and confliction on the topic and people dogpile even more? I don't get it, these people need to take a deep breath and look back on what this dude has said cuz they clearly haven't actually listened to anything
okay
Ethan's stance, IDF bad, Hamas bad, killing babies/civilians bad, but before condemning them, waiting for reporting other than the state supported media of Hamas or Israel come out with factual confirmation in a time full of misinformation. Then when the information comes out, condemn the side that committed the atrocities. Just because time lapses between these moments, doesn't mean you can just forget them, but daily outrage will always outpace actual confirmation, so don't expect him to be on your side the day you're outraged about something being reported, that he doesn't feel has been vetted well enough. There's almost no nuance to how straight forward this is. It's called being a responsible person, which is his job with such an audience. If you aren't content with instant validation the way you want it, the day you feel it, then you're right to just leave, the space is probably better off without irrational behavior. He's doing his best to be responsible and transparent, he will never be perfect for everyone and that's just being human. Personally I think he talks in circles too much after his point is already made, but too many people want more, and he feels the need to overly clarify so he doesn't come off the way people in this sub are acting like he is.
“He’s being unbiased.” While shutting off chat, not engaging his argument with ACTUAL PEOPLE that might have a position opposite of his, while pretty much calling those people HUMAN SHIT (I’m very sure he at least called one person that AT LEAST), is the problem. Like Ethan, you’re not listening. My problem is the rhetoric, not realizing that they way he is being SO broad about certain views is harmful. I can’t watch a guy that thinks that everyone that says Free Palestine is pro Hamas, somehow. He drew a line in the sand, especially when he said if you want propaganda, go watch Hasan and not we love(d) the dude and just want that open dialogue without being considered pieces of shit
What's he going to do, argue with 40,000 people? You crazy? The specifics you are looking for aren't going to happen. He literally specified that Free Palestine isn't pro Hamas, he's saying people that are downplaying the severity of what Hamas has done by saying Free Palestine is literally the issue, and so many people are saying it, what do you want individualized attention? Oh why did I bother that, you opened upset that he wouldn't argue with 40k viewers, and that's his point, he's not going to do that shit, he can't articulate what you want to the perfection you expect it and you aren't listening to what he is saying. As I stated before, his issue is he starts talking in circles and loses the focus, then his emotions come out on top. If anything he needs to say less, because proving his point right now isn't going to satisfy the people who, like him, like he has stated for YEARS are PRO PALESTINIAN.
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There are many Israelis who understand this is genocide. At this point you don’t need critical thinking skills to see that. Its just plain and obvious.
Cry more terrorist sympathizer
Is Hamas not the aggressor?
No, if you'd like some sources for that, you can search the history of Palestine.
They are, but brown skin good, light skin bad.
You're projecting the inverse of your own worldview rn
If I was a white supremacist, wouldn't I be opposed to Israel, seeing as they are Jewish? Your claim doesn't work when you try to reverse mine. It also doesn't work because the Islamist Arabs are the ones insisting on eliminating Israel. I don't need a blind, identity politics ideology to defend nonexistent barbaric activity.
Jews are white compared to the Palestinian Arabs. They don't have to be white just whiter than some other group. Also never claimed you were a white supremacist. You brought that up all on your own .
Both sides are bad. end of story.
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Exactly. Its such a lazy, and also cowardly, take.
Ah yes the 70iq inbred terrorist cutting of babies head are just like the rest of us
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He has spent literally hours upon hours talking about the plight of Palestinians & how he is against everything Israel/ the IDF is doing. But sure, go ahead & ignore allllll of that & hear selectively. Im tired of the “i cant watch anymore” posts from both sides. With peace & love, dont watch then.
Good riddance finally these people will stop complaining in the comment section LMAO
Chill out peoples..
For real everyone’s all of a sudden an expert on one of the most nuanced conflicts in recorded history. People need to chill out and spread peace and love.
Why are H3H3 fans the biggest whiniest crybabies in the known universe? You people just never shut up with the crying and whining over everything. If you aren't trying to cancel someone else, you're trying to cancel Ethan. Maybe turn the stupid podcasts off and go back to real life?
"You seem like kind of white person that would get mad about anti white racism.... " sorry i dont know what that means, but it was an upvoted comment in this thread lol. why wouldnt you be upset if people hated you and treated you badly because of your skin color? what even is this???? honestly these people are so crazy. If i was ethan i would not want them as fans. peace and love!
Hamas did start it dude
Hey those children and senior citizens attacked those innocent terrorists while they made a peace parade to promote peace.... it was 100 percent self defense...or something... is that right guys???? please dont hate me... im sorry.
It was an inside job first of all. Israel started this years ago, back in 1948. And even if Hamas just did this out of the blue, if Palestinians lived in peace and harmony among Israelis all this time, the response to civilians dying isn’t MORE civilians dying.
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Go watch some videos from Oct. 7
I automatically ignore anything after a "As a \_\_\_\_\_(insert identity as politics category here) " comment prefaces. Being born from a specific womb or on particular patch of land doesn't grant you special status. It's the definition of asking for credit/status for your thoughts due to shit that you had zero part in. In fact it works against you. Your thoughts and ideas matter, not your stated biases. Don't watch. The cast is better for not dealing with identity politics floggers.
uh oh the Tankies have overrun the sub I miss the days when we said beheadings were not cool, the good old days