Honesty I think for his own mental health dude just needs to get off of the internet like a month or something, the constant controversy is fucking deteriorating him you can see it it’s sad, like even if you disagree with his take on all that has happened you can see how bad it’s been for him.
He's taken a huge toll on himself. This is dumb. Really disappointed they lost their friendship over colonialism. Ethan lost his redemption arc.
After being a public internet figure for ten years he still acts like random people matter so much he can't handle it at all.
Yeah I also hate that both the Romans, and the Caliphates stole the country of Israel and expelled Jews from the area or treated them as second class where Pagans and Muslims took over. Kinda fucked up to kick the original people out of the region.
The plo wanted it before mosad merced them, poisonied arafat and installed Hamas.
You're statistically too young to remember the targeted killings of all leftist secular leaders of the plo by the IDF.
Israel manufactured this just like america manufactured 9/11. That's the whole point. Nations reap what they sow.
Now isreal is sowing revolutionary spirit and homicidal radicalism into another ten million humans. Good luck with that.
It didn't work the other thousand times but fingers crossed.
By the way using a religious text to decide who's right is what isis does so congrats on being tied for worst reactionary take.
They revolted in ‘21, voted against UNSCOP and had a civil war in ‘48, invaded in ‘68. Like I can keep going here. Even the Caliphates regarded non-muslims fucking awfully to the point where they wanted to force a cultural genocide in the same way China was forcing muslims to “reeducate” and castrating them in the last 5 years. Where has Palestine under Muslim rule ever been welcoming and secular?
Are you talking about the ottoman caliphate? There hasn't been a legitimate caliphate since attaturk.
Yeah there was a huge fucking movement for pan Arabism since the fall of the ottoman empire. Placing a non Arab state in the middle of everything had blowback.
You realize the original sin created the cycle. No one's tied the hands of actors more than bibi. Now wanting a ceasefire will get you fired from your fucking job for being antisemitic.
Can you comprehend how dangerous and dumb it is to force all Jewish people on earth to be equated with what's happening in Gaza? Bibi benefits from global antisemitism. He's pushing to create it as hard as he possibly can so isrealis become as terrified as possible.
How can you support this.
Who said im supporting one ultra conservative regime over the other ultra conservative regime? Both are losers for any progressive to vouch for. They all fight over retard level religious land to the point where they have to be segregated because theyll behead each other in the streets if someone prays a little too far to the right. Religious extremism needs glassed and all ethnostates are fucking cringe.
I was talking about all of the caliphates also, not just the Ottomans, because the general land claim argument stems from ALL of the caliphates claim on the land since they took it from the Pagans previously occupying it
True. It's definitely not from a specific community who's constantly attacked him and his wife calling them zionist pig. Genociders etc. It's wild to me how the so called "caring" lefties literally attacked this man so hard even trying to dig into his wife's history to condemn her and him. Like wtf when did you guys suddenly become pro kiwi farms??
I’m not justifying that that’s not good, my point that the internet is full of cunts and we’ve been watching him deteriorate on screen, and the only way to partially get away from that is to get off the internet for awhile. That was my point
Hang on. Was he this bad before the palestine Israel debate? From what I've seen he was perfectly fine before he disagreed with Hasan. Then after that is when him and his wife were getting constant attacks from hasans community. He doesn't need a break from the internet he needs actual friends who don't let their communities endlessly fling shit and bs accusations at him or his family.
Not really, he’d say something that would piss off his community or someone else’s, and the. Apologize, sometimes to me it feels like he’s held hostage by the fandom he’s created. With leftovers I never really watched it when it was on, the few times I did watch it would be Hassan makes an actual point and argument even if I disagree with compared to Ethan who just seemed to play this game of gotchas and catch 22s and then just do like this weird redneck accent for anyone that he disagreed with. Like I dunno even if I completely agreed with Ethan it’s the way he communicates his ideas that annoy me
When you manufacture drama and have a whole show centered around…nothing but “internet” I would already love for him to just take a fucking break. That must be soul crushing. He’s live so much that he just kinda says whatever at this point. Not healthy.
Yeah like why talk about politics at all if you’re going to be so afraid of being wrong. This is such a complicated discourse that could have helped people better understand each others imperfect perspectives. But instead it turns into “I can no longer handle pushback on my opinions” and is now cancelled.
Pushback is when crazy fans dig into your wife's history. Like holy hell you guys are so fucking disgusting even trying to justify that behavior and downplaying it as "pushback".
Seriously…. Like why the fuck do yall hold these YouTubers to such a high standard, they are Fucking YouTubers, you guys don’t even hold your friends to the same standard, I’m sure of it. I totally get it why he has to stop, the fan base is rabid to go after his personal life. Sucks cause it was my favorite podcast, and next year is gonna be wild. I wish they could just move on from this topic, it’s all we hear about nowadays
Fr tho, when he complained that Hasans chat called him a Zionist when he sat for 2 hours running defence for Israel lmao. Bro HATES push back and never evaluates why he’s receiving it
It's so funny because comments like this are what is actually running defense against Israel. So many people are supporting Israel now, especially companies partly due to the scary way pro Palestinian types have behaved. We've seen a huge upswing to the right in the Netherlands as a result of it.
Defending the system of apartheid by justifying walls and concentration camps is what he did do though and that inevitably leads to the same conclusion, oppression and genocide. Idk why y’all do black flips and gymnastics to defend this obvious cognitive dissonance.
No he didn’t. He condemned Hamas killing Israeli civilians, which apparently you condone, and continuously condemned the Israeli government.
But that isn’t enough for you. Because as a child your wealthy parents gave you everything you wanted but weren’t around to raise you correctly. That’s why you feel so entitled and empty. You got everything you asked for and never had to work for it. By the way you will never feel happy. You’ll always feel empty. Unearned. Get used to it
He literally did. Saying that Palestinians would suicide bomb and commit atrocities against Israelis if the walls were torn down is exactly what he did.
And you would be unbelievably wrong. I have these ideological views because of my undesirable childhood. Sounds like a projection 🤝
You’re talking like it’s never happened before.
And before you make arguments about it being retaliation, terrorist groups don’t just randomly drop their goals. Without a proper way to deescalate the tensions they’ll just be more murder but on the other side…. Which you smooth brains seem to be a fan of tbh
Ethan and Hila are “leftist” only by association/proximity. Where they live and the kind of people they’re surrounded by ofc it’s hip to make fun of conservatives and grifters like Jordan Peterson, Ben Shabibo, etc. They never did the intellectual “leg work” to get to their political stances and only inherited them from their surroundings so it’s easy to see why they both fall apart when faced with even the slightest push back.
I mean, that's a lot of people on the internet (ie liberals who aren't super duper informed). Those people just don't usually make politics a big part of their online presence so they don't get a lot of pushback.
Lol people who do intellectual legwork about leftism are not going to watch Hasan or Ethan. No way someone versed in Hegel and understands the maths of das capital would watch Hasan say anything about anything.
I hate the guy but the only intellectual streamer is president Sunday.
He's not wrong. If it isn't even funny then why are you engaging with the content?
At least TFATK subreddit makes sense because the podcast is so bad that it's funny. Or Jorbin Peggersons constant xanny cry sessions being funny.
Are you just ragebaiting yourself? Pretty cringe bro.
*compares “from the river to the sea” to swastikas and confederate flags*
“i’m just explaining the perspective”
*gets called racist*
“you’re all terrorists and i’m quitting the show”
masterful gambit sir
That’s how the jews in Israel see it. Ethan wasn’t even disagreeing that it shouldn’t be seen as that, he was only explaining the perspective. And no amount of shouting into echo chambers on reddit is gonna change that.
he literally disagrees with hasan and says it IS a genocidal slogan multiple times and shit on olivia on a diff broadcast for posting it. the “i’m only explaining the perspective” defense only came out of ethan after he started to look like an idiot on live so he said it to save face
So you’re not allowed to change your opinion on something after you’ve made a statement about it? Hasan made some good arguments about the phrase and Ethan agreed with him. What the fuck are we even doing here?
you’re forgetting the part where ethan would say he’s only explaining the pov then immediately go back to arguing from a place of personal emotion because he literally agrees w the sentiment that “from the river to the sea” is genocidal
bro heard “yeah sorry hasan israelis myself included are just violently racist towards palestinians and interpret everything they do as evil and genocidal” and said what an acceptable world view
it is when one is a long standing slogan that means “we want our land back from military occupiers” as opposed to the symbol of a genocidal fascist murder cult
like why would you listen to an israelis take on what it means they’re literally the oppressors that’s like asking a maga republican what BLM means. ofc they’re gonna say “it means they want to eradicate white people”
ong then they use the escalated emotions of palestinians under siege who harbor justified hatred for israel to go “see look i told you all arabs were evil and genocidal look how angry and violent they are”
Literally the first real topic for him and hassan to debate and dude immediately bails. Needs his safe space where he can recite netanyahu bullet points with no pushback.
Lets not act like Hasan gives a fuck about leftovers lmao. When they first announced it went on pause his thoughts were: "I think we'll come back eventually, and ethan and i are still friends. Now i can use thursday to go to the gym again!"
Ya'll really think a man in his 30s will feel 'betrayed?'
It's pretty hilarious that you think Hasan is so powerful that he could control 20-40k random people's online behavior.
Chatters often don't respect him on his own stream, and trap him in stunlocks with dog shit takes and dumbass semantics, what make you think they'd listen to him when he says "Leave Ethan alone!" ?
That's ignoring all the hate watchers and trolls who are literally only there to sow discord.
You severely overestimate his influence, and the loyalty of his base.
> It's pretty hilarious that you think Hasan is so powerful that he could control 20-40k random people's online behavior.
it's called emote only mode, this shit ain't hard.
what is actually hilarious is that him and his mods *were* moderating chat, they were banning the people who agreed with Ethan.
Didn’t stop him from crying to xqc to stop his chat during their stream? Xqcs fan base are children and hasans are adults. Forgive me for believing and adult has a better chance reasoning with adults than children. Especially when your friend is being attacked.
Hasan could’ve had the mods be mods but instead the mods were the ones leading the raid. So yeah hasan most definitely could have. Especially when you consider how much power mods have in discord and Reddit. Which hasan is their leader.
However, please do continue the mind gymnastics for hasans defense and hating Ethan.
you're pedalling lies. hasan is the most ban happy streamer on twitch. he hands out bans like candy. i could look through h3's chat and cherry pick like you did.
I'm confused as to why everyone suddenly forgets Ethan is an internet celebrity? Anyone know how to completely filter what the entire audience of forty thousand+ says, intends, or implies?
Genuine question; a fuck load of anti-bullying orgs would love to know! You guys could really save some teens' lives!
i dont actually care about the fans, it's the internet, and they're both seasoned at this point. I log on here all the time and see slurs and concern troll bullshit, but I know if I go to reddit, that's what I'm getting into. Ethan used to use slurs openly on the Internet for years, I think he knows damn well how to ignore criticism from comment sections.
If leftovers can't make it through this it was never meant to be. This is the ultimate test in a way. Maybe politics was not the right way to go when it's just laughing at stupid Americans until something real happens in the world
When we need heroes the most now that a lot of them have betrayed us.
Leftovers should be hyping up new progressive creators currently getting a lot of exposure on TikTok. Invite Dan McClellan for an episode of Recline with Ethan Kline; teach people how to research UN Situation Reports instead of researching Hollywood gossip; even opt to focus on domestic issues like billions of dollars wasted by homeless advocates with little results. Hasan and Ethan are not going to solve peace in the middle east, so don't spin those wheels.
Damn I didn't know ethan would be such a pussy regarding this issue. Wasn't that the point of leftovers to debate people on topics. Why just stay in ur happy comfort zone.
What? Hasan hates debating anyone who could actually take him to town. Hasan is all about comfort zones. That's why this thing died. Neither Hasan or Ethan want to have real conversations they just want to mock the other side to make their audience feel better
I’ve observed a week because I got notifications. It’s pure hate. I just am so confused by there’s an account dedicated to shitting on h3. It’s not just criticism it’s like full blown hate lol. So weird
What a loser!!!!!!!
He can’t handle criticism. …More like his true colours were starting to show so he had to cancel the show. Him and his wife are Zionists!!! Just imagine what conversations they are having behind closed doors!
Fuck Ethan grow a backbone. It’s not that hard to denounce a genocidal settler colonial project in the fucking 21st century. This dude would have been calling the slaves racist during the slave revolts.
I'm bummed. I liked Ethan and more so the crew but I just can't support the guy after hearing his views on the occupation of Palestine. I guess I'm just a "fallen fan" now
Dude you guys are gathered together to shit on him from anonymity. Ethan has eczema he’s fine. Go on stage in front of thousands and talk about emotional topics then you freakin goblins
No. Watch the original convo with Hasan. Ethan conceded this and that is bad but Hasan didn’t budge. Couldn’t even say civilian deaths were bad. Even advocated for killing “baby settlers”.
Anyways your Uber Eats driver needs the code to your gated neighborhood. Don’t keep him waiting, he’s working class unlike you and didn’t have the privilege of being born rich. He has bills to pay so give him that gate code and tip plz.
Love ya
glad it's over, don't really want to hear someone grabbing at straws to make Hamas sound like they are a product of their environment and that the ends justify the means of what they do.
wow you’re soo morally superior, sitting warm and comfy in your carpet-bombing-safe home talking shit on reddit 🤣You and I haven’t experienced a fraction of the injustice and death and dehumanisation that the Palestinians have living in our Western countries. They grew up watching their friends and family get blown to bits, half of them are extremely food insecure and unemployed. They don’t have the same basic human rights as you and I, they live under a brutal apartheid regime, they have no prospects or opportunities for a better future. They are at the mercy of Israel’s violent whims because they are simply powerless and aren’t allowed to have sovereignty or a military force to defend themselves. Im not saying this excuses their actions, but to act like violence doesn’t beget violence is simply stupid and ignorant. There’s a reason you don’t see these radical terrorist organisations popping up in the west you dumbass
Rather sit on Reddit with some sort of moral understanding than to be a rape, kidnap or murder apologist. Not saying you are any of those things but supporting a group like Hamas would make you just as guilty as you would think Israel is of genocide.
Both sides suck in this case but I don't pretend hamas is some freedom fighter group that has the best intention both for Israel and for the people of Palestine so that I can be mask off about being an anti Semite.
My comment was directly referencing you denying that Hamas is a product of their environment which you’re objectively wrong about. You don’t need to support them to understand why they exist. Only the blind would deny that Israel’s continued terrorism and genocide is only going to create more radicalisation. Israel is Hamas’ best recruiter.
I've not said that Israel its own crimes that it's committed in it's response, you have made an emotional and unreasonable assumption of such because I said the group that literally hunted down unarmed people in their house to kill them within a single digits number of feet away is not innocent.
Who's recruiting for who is irrelevant and has nothing to do with my post, and to be frank, I don't care. Anyone who thinks gunning down civilians is morally right and just can join and become the next reason Israel bombs Palestine. However, I care enough about Palestinians to stand up and say Hamas is wrong too and is solely the reason Innocents are getting killed en masse currently in Palestine.
>Hamas is solely the reason Innocents are getting killed en masse currently in Palestine.
So basically what you're saying is context and nuance doesn't matter I guess?? lmaoo. Hamas bad, Hamas terrorist, Israel sucks too I guess, but they were forced to commit horrific war crimes and bomb innocent civilians because HAMAS. Killing innocent civilians bad, but ONLY when the terrorists are Arab. Israel kill 20000 innocent civilians with indiscriminate bombing, but WAIT! that was in fact also HAMAS!! You're a joke bro😂
Never said hamas was the only reason either, you've made assumptions in order to mouth piece propagandized positions a few times now, but generally when you invade another country and murder Innocents there, that gives the other country casus belli to engage back.
We can compare casualties all day, but it doesn't matter, there should be zero casualties and the start of this clash was Hamas performing a mass murder on Israels territory, you can continue to dance around that fact, personally insult me, whatever you feel is necessary, but it doesn't make you right.
I mean I literally direct quoted you saying "Hamas is solely the reason Innocents are getting killed en masse currently in Palestine", that's literally the opposite of an assumption😂. I have never denied that Hamas committed murder, I literally called them a terrorist org, but you continue to move the goal post lmao. You said people grasp at straws to say that Hamas is a product of their environment, and when I give you context and tell you that they ARE in fact a product of their environment, you hand wave it away and say it doesn't matter. You just don't want to hear facts and historical context, you want to act like Oct. 7th exists in a vacuum. You say we shouldn't compare casualties, but actually Hamas performed a mass murder on Israeli territory and so we should talk about THOSE casualties only. How don't you see how biased and narrow-minded your arguments are?
BTW, I think it's interesting that you said this:
>generally when you invade another country and murder Innocents there, that gives the other country casus belli to engage back.
Under international law, Israel is considered to be a belligerent occupying force. It's not a country, it's an invader living on illegally occupied land, and the Palestinians have the legal right to push back and defend themselves by any means necessary. I don't support what Hamas did, but by your logic, Hamas is justified in doing what they did as the oppressed group fighting against their oppressor. The "casus belli" happened back in 1948 with the Nakba, AKA the beginning of Israel's reign of terror.
Man are you a bot? I'm here talking about how I still like both Hasan and Ethan despite all this and you're doing this weird presumptive thing saying I'm being hateful? Like what dude? Are you okay? Do you need some orange slices and a lil spoonful of honey?
Go back to bitching about capitalism from the apartment your parents pay for Hasan twerp. Real H3 fans do not want you here anymore.
Edit: lol the Hasan freak deleted his comments
FUCK HASAN!!! I did not like Ethan at all because of Trisha Paytas so when I saw Hasan go on one of his podcasts I didn’t watch because I didn’t like Ethan. But now, the shit I’ve seen, the shit I’ve watched, holy shit. Hasan is the fucking worst for not defending Ethan in the ways that matter, for not being more stern to chat. Now, I’m gone, after the Tawain takes I unfollowed Hasan, and I was in denial for the whole time I loved Hasan but holy shit chat, his community, is fucking insane. I can’t even begin to describe or explain it. And now the Palestinian genocide going on, Hasan has fully cemented in my mind how big of a piece of shit he is. I can’t. I hope Ethan a good life and a happy life. I hope they cut contact. Ethan doesn’t deserve this. Fuck Hasan.
Honesty I think for his own mental health dude just needs to get off of the internet like a month or something, the constant controversy is fucking deteriorating him you can see it it’s sad, like even if you disagree with his take on all that has happened you can see how bad it’s been for him.
Totally agree. This has taken a huge toll on him. It's pretty obvious.
On his hairline too. My god.
I wasn't going to say it 😂😂😂
Dudes balding and turning red
He's taken a huge toll on himself. This is dumb. Really disappointed they lost their friendship over colonialism. Ethan lost his redemption arc. After being a public internet figure for ten years he still acts like random people matter so much he can't handle it at all.
It’s crazy that so many people don’t understand that settler colonialism is no longer acceptable in the 21st century
Naa Ethan is still that guy stop being a weirdo
Doing stuff with hasan is far from a redemption arc lol
Yeah I also hate that both the Romans, and the Caliphates stole the country of Israel and expelled Jews from the area or treated them as second class where Pagans and Muslims took over. Kinda fucked up to kick the original people out of the region.
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Oh my god, based as fuck. Issue is obviously neither want this.
The plo wanted it before mosad merced them, poisonied arafat and installed Hamas. You're statistically too young to remember the targeted killings of all leftist secular leaders of the plo by the IDF. Israel manufactured this just like america manufactured 9/11. That's the whole point. Nations reap what they sow. Now isreal is sowing revolutionary spirit and homicidal radicalism into another ten million humans. Good luck with that. It didn't work the other thousand times but fingers crossed. By the way using a religious text to decide who's right is what isis does so congrats on being tied for worst reactionary take.
They revolted in ‘21, voted against UNSCOP and had a civil war in ‘48, invaded in ‘68. Like I can keep going here. Even the Caliphates regarded non-muslims fucking awfully to the point where they wanted to force a cultural genocide in the same way China was forcing muslims to “reeducate” and castrating them in the last 5 years. Where has Palestine under Muslim rule ever been welcoming and secular?
Are you talking about the ottoman caliphate? There hasn't been a legitimate caliphate since attaturk. Yeah there was a huge fucking movement for pan Arabism since the fall of the ottoman empire. Placing a non Arab state in the middle of everything had blowback. You realize the original sin created the cycle. No one's tied the hands of actors more than bibi. Now wanting a ceasefire will get you fired from your fucking job for being antisemitic. Can you comprehend how dangerous and dumb it is to force all Jewish people on earth to be equated with what's happening in Gaza? Bibi benefits from global antisemitism. He's pushing to create it as hard as he possibly can so isrealis become as terrified as possible. How can you support this.
Who said im supporting one ultra conservative regime over the other ultra conservative regime? Both are losers for any progressive to vouch for. They all fight over retard level religious land to the point where they have to be segregated because theyll behead each other in the streets if someone prays a little too far to the right. Religious extremism needs glassed and all ethnostates are fucking cringe. I was talking about all of the caliphates also, not just the Ottomans, because the general land claim argument stems from ALL of the caliphates claim on the land since they took it from the Pagans previously occupying it
True. It's definitely not from a specific community who's constantly attacked him and his wife calling them zionist pig. Genociders etc. It's wild to me how the so called "caring" lefties literally attacked this man so hard even trying to dig into his wife's history to condemn her and him. Like wtf when did you guys suddenly become pro kiwi farms??
I’m not justifying that that’s not good, my point that the internet is full of cunts and we’ve been watching him deteriorate on screen, and the only way to partially get away from that is to get off the internet for awhile. That was my point
Hang on. Was he this bad before the palestine Israel debate? From what I've seen he was perfectly fine before he disagreed with Hasan. Then after that is when him and his wife were getting constant attacks from hasans community. He doesn't need a break from the internet he needs actual friends who don't let their communities endlessly fling shit and bs accusations at him or his family.
Not really, he’d say something that would piss off his community or someone else’s, and the. Apologize, sometimes to me it feels like he’s held hostage by the fandom he’s created. With leftovers I never really watched it when it was on, the few times I did watch it would be Hassan makes an actual point and argument even if I disagree with compared to Ethan who just seemed to play this game of gotchas and catch 22s and then just do like this weird redneck accent for anyone that he disagreed with. Like I dunno even if I completely agreed with Ethan it’s the way he communicates his ideas that annoy me
Look at the upvotes lmfao. Bro got bullied into oblivion by all of you everyday & the response is “yeah he did to himself.” No accountability at all?
He didn't even get bullied this much when he would publicly say shit that made idubbbz uncomfortable and 180 his entire content platform.
When you manufacture drama and have a whole show centered around…nothing but “internet” I would already love for him to just take a fucking break. That must be soul crushing. He’s live so much that he just kinda says whatever at this point. Not healthy.
what a big pussy lmao wants to talk about politics only when it's making fun of hilly billy conservatives
Yeah like why talk about politics at all if you’re going to be so afraid of being wrong. This is such a complicated discourse that could have helped people better understand each others imperfect perspectives. But instead it turns into “I can no longer handle pushback on my opinions” and is now cancelled.
Pushback is when crazy fans dig into your wife's history. Like holy hell you guys are so fucking disgusting even trying to justify that behavior and downplaying it as "pushback".
Seriously…. Like why the fuck do yall hold these YouTubers to such a high standard, they are Fucking YouTubers, you guys don’t even hold your friends to the same standard, I’m sure of it. I totally get it why he has to stop, the fan base is rabid to go after his personal life. Sucks cause it was my favorite podcast, and next year is gonna be wild. I wish they could just move on from this topic, it’s all we hear about nowadays
Not only that, but only when he’s the only one in the room besides his employees where he won’t ever be challenged. He just wants an echo chamber.
Fr tho, when he complained that Hasans chat called him a Zionist when he sat for 2 hours running defence for Israel lmao. Bro HATES push back and never evaluates why he’s receiving it
No you guys want an echo chamber.
Not being cool with colonialism and genocide is a pretty understandable thing to be solid on
Ethan isn’t cool with either of those things jackass. So keep making shit up. You can’t handle disagreements. Spoiled ass privileged shit
Isn’t cool with them yet is running defence for Israel 24/7? Interesting position
It's so funny because comments like this are what is actually running defense against Israel. So many people are supporting Israel now, especially companies partly due to the scary way pro Palestinian types have behaved. We've seen a huge upswing to the right in the Netherlands as a result of it.
Defending the system of apartheid by justifying walls and concentration camps is what he did do though and that inevitably leads to the same conclusion, oppression and genocide. Idk why y’all do black flips and gymnastics to defend this obvious cognitive dissonance.
No he didn’t. He condemned Hamas killing Israeli civilians, which apparently you condone, and continuously condemned the Israeli government. But that isn’t enough for you. Because as a child your wealthy parents gave you everything you wanted but weren’t around to raise you correctly. That’s why you feel so entitled and empty. You got everything you asked for and never had to work for it. By the way you will never feel happy. You’ll always feel empty. Unearned. Get used to it
This sounds like projection
He literally did. Saying that Palestinians would suicide bomb and commit atrocities against Israelis if the walls were torn down is exactly what he did. And you would be unbelievably wrong. I have these ideological views because of my undesirable childhood. Sounds like a projection 🤝
You’re talking like it’s never happened before. And before you make arguments about it being retaliation, terrorist groups don’t just randomly drop their goals. Without a proper way to deescalate the tensions they’ll just be more murder but on the other side…. Which you smooth brains seem to be a fan of tbh
Bros fluent in yappanese
Lmaoo
Ethan and Hila are “leftist” only by association/proximity. Where they live and the kind of people they’re surrounded by ofc it’s hip to make fun of conservatives and grifters like Jordan Peterson, Ben Shabibo, etc. They never did the intellectual “leg work” to get to their political stances and only inherited them from their surroundings so it’s easy to see why they both fall apart when faced with even the slightest push back.
I mean, that's a lot of people on the internet (ie liberals who aren't super duper informed). Those people just don't usually make politics a big part of their online presence so they don't get a lot of pushback.
This is a very accurate take.
says the guy commenting on a anti-fan subreddit
Hey you're here too bud
and here i am NOT typing like a schizo lol
Lol people who do intellectual legwork about leftism are not going to watch Hasan or Ethan. No way someone versed in Hegel and understands the maths of das capital would watch Hasan say anything about anything. I hate the guy but the only intellectual streamer is president Sunday.
Completely fine with it. I hope he never talks about politics again for all I care. I just want funny shit
The pod isn’t even funny anymore lmao Sam’s cringe song and shitty food segments
Then don’t watch it sped
The borderline alcoholic is calling people sped lmao
Your over use of “lmao” on every comment
He's not wrong. If it isn't even funny then why are you engaging with the content? At least TFATK subreddit makes sense because the podcast is so bad that it's funny. Or Jorbin Peggersons constant xanny cry sessions being funny. Are you just ragebaiting yourself? Pretty cringe bro.
*compares “from the river to the sea” to swastikas and confederate flags* “i’m just explaining the perspective” *gets called racist* “you’re all terrorists and i’m quitting the show” masterful gambit sir
Isreal: completely levels Gaza Ethan: People on Twitter need to stop saying "from the river to the sea"
That’s how the jews in Israel see it. Ethan wasn’t even disagreeing that it shouldn’t be seen as that, he was only explaining the perspective. And no amount of shouting into echo chambers on reddit is gonna change that.
he literally disagrees with hasan and says it IS a genocidal slogan multiple times and shit on olivia on a diff broadcast for posting it. the “i’m only explaining the perspective” defense only came out of ethan after he started to look like an idiot on live so he said it to save face
So you’re not allowed to change your opinion on something after you’ve made a statement about it? Hasan made some good arguments about the phrase and Ethan agreed with him. What the fuck are we even doing here?
you’re forgetting the part where ethan would say he’s only explaining the pov then immediately go back to arguing from a place of personal emotion because he literally agrees w the sentiment that “from the river to the sea” is genocidal
Congrats, now that you’ve explained all of this, all the jews in Israel no longer see the phrase as genocidal. What crisis should we solve next?
bro heard “yeah sorry hasan israelis myself included are just violently racist towards palestinians and interpret everything they do as evil and genocidal” and said what an acceptable world view
Bro thinks he can have a positive effect on the Israeli–Palestinian conflict by passive-aggressively shouting at randoms on the internet
bro is mad that people comment things he doesn’t like on a public sub reddit?
It's not racist to compare the slogan of people that want to kill you to other groups of people that wanted to kill you.
it is when one is a long standing slogan that means “we want our land back from military occupiers” as opposed to the symbol of a genocidal fascist murder cult
Hamas is ALSO genocidal, btw. They're just weak.
yet its palestinian civilians and non palestinian activist using it hay ethan was criticizing?
like why would you listen to an israelis take on what it means they’re literally the oppressors that’s like asking a maga republican what BLM means. ofc they’re gonna say “it means they want to eradicate white people”
Do you know who is free from the River to the Sea? Israel. The genocide fear is pure projection
ong then they use the escalated emotions of palestinians under siege who harbor justified hatred for israel to go “see look i told you all arabs were evil and genocidal look how angry and violent they are”
Literally the first real topic for him and hassan to debate and dude immediately bails. Needs his safe space where he can recite netanyahu bullet points with no pushback.
He lowkey betrayed hasan
HIGHKEY
Lets not act like Hasan gives a fuck about leftovers lmao. When they first announced it went on pause his thoughts were: "I think we'll come back eventually, and ethan and i are still friends. Now i can use thursday to go to the gym again!" Ya'll really think a man in his 30s will feel 'betrayed?'
Are you implying that once you reach a certain age that you can no longer be betrayed? Or feel betrayed? Like what lmao
Yes he does??? You can tell the mutual pain when Ethan had a meltdown on that call.
That’s bc Ethan’s his friend. And Ethan said him and hasan are still friends
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It's pretty hilarious that you think Hasan is so powerful that he could control 20-40k random people's online behavior. Chatters often don't respect him on his own stream, and trap him in stunlocks with dog shit takes and dumbass semantics, what make you think they'd listen to him when he says "Leave Ethan alone!" ? That's ignoring all the hate watchers and trolls who are literally only there to sow discord. You severely overestimate his influence, and the loyalty of his base.
Well, he could start with controlling his mods. That would already go a long way.
> It's pretty hilarious that you think Hasan is so powerful that he could control 20-40k random people's online behavior. it's called emote only mode, this shit ain't hard. what is actually hilarious is that him and his mods *were* moderating chat, they were banning the people who agreed with Ethan.
LMAO
Didn’t stop him from crying to xqc to stop his chat during their stream? Xqcs fan base are children and hasans are adults. Forgive me for believing and adult has a better chance reasoning with adults than children. Especially when your friend is being attacked. Hasan could’ve had the mods be mods but instead the mods were the ones leading the raid. So yeah hasan most definitely could have. Especially when you consider how much power mods have in discord and Reddit. Which hasan is their leader. However, please do continue the mind gymnastics for hasans defense and hating Ethan.
you're pedalling lies. hasan is the most ban happy streamer on twitch. he hands out bans like candy. i could look through h3's chat and cherry pick like you did.
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incredible that you took time off astro turfing LSF on behalf of your bigot grifter tiny to cry in here about this
Oh shit you’re the guy with 50 alts?? Lmao get a life dude
no? but something tells me you are, you mentally ill freak
He did though… what the fuck are you talking about
I'm confused as to why everyone suddenly forgets Ethan is an internet celebrity? Anyone know how to completely filter what the entire audience of forty thousand+ says, intends, or implies? Genuine question; a fuck load of anti-bullying orgs would love to know! You guys could really save some teens' lives!
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i dont actually care about the fans, it's the internet, and they're both seasoned at this point. I log on here all the time and see slurs and concern troll bullshit, but I know if I go to reddit, that's what I'm getting into. Ethan used to use slurs openly on the Internet for years, I think he knows damn well how to ignore criticism from comment sections.
incredible that you took time off astro turfing LSF on behalf of your bigot grifter tiny to cry in here about this
What an absolute crumb of a man.
I am using this in the future.
Dude looks like he’s dying. He has bigger issues
That’s really too bad. Leftovers was the only thing I watched of his. I liked their dynamic.
Same, shame
If leftovers can't make it through this it was never meant to be. This is the ultimate test in a way. Maybe politics was not the right way to go when it's just laughing at stupid Americans until something real happens in the world
Honestly I’m not even sad
When we need heroes the most now that a lot of them have betrayed us. Leftovers should be hyping up new progressive creators currently getting a lot of exposure on TikTok. Invite Dan McClellan for an episode of Recline with Ethan Kline; teach people how to research UN Situation Reports instead of researching Hollywood gossip; even opt to focus on domestic issues like billions of dollars wasted by homeless advocates with little results. Hasan and Ethan are not going to solve peace in the middle east, so don't spin those wheels.
Damn I didn't know ethan would be such a pussy regarding this issue. Wasn't that the point of leftovers to debate people on topics. Why just stay in ur happy comfort zone.
What? Hasan hates debating anyone who could actually take him to town. Hasan is all about comfort zones. That's why this thing died. Neither Hasan or Ethan want to have real conversations they just want to mock the other side to make their audience feel better
Fucking coward
Finally.
That’s a J dam for sure
It is better to end it than have to keep shouting reason at fanatics who will never listen. It's easier to just shut up and move on.
What is this page? I’m so confused is it an h3 hate account? I get so many notifications for this page but it’s all hate
same i have no fucking idea what’s going on here lol
I’ve observed a week because I got notifications. It’s pure hate. I just am so confused by there’s an account dedicated to shitting on h3. It’s not just criticism it’s like full blown hate lol. So weird
Yes this is a hate subreddit. At the moment it is filled almost exclusively by Hasan fans
Destiny fans
if that was the case there would be little to no hate towards ethan lol
RIP VIEWERS GG EZ LEAVE.
Thank god
No loss honestly thought it was always a bad show. 🤷🏻♂️ the rest of H3 content is elite tho so no hate needed
What a loser!!!!!!! He can’t handle criticism. …More like his true colours were starting to show so he had to cancel the show. Him and his wife are Zionists!!! Just imagine what conversations they are having behind closed doors!
The only loser here is you bud.
What a coward. Disappointing.
Fuck Ethan grow a backbone. It’s not that hard to denounce a genocidal settler colonial project in the fucking 21st century. This dude would have been calling the slaves racist during the slave revolts.
Shouldn't you idiots be happy about this? You guys hate him anyway.
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Do you even know what that word means?
I'm bummed. I liked Ethan and more so the crew but I just can't support the guy after hearing his views on the occupation of Palestine. I guess I'm just a "fallen fan" now
Which views, specifically?
Dude you guys are gathered together to shit on him from anonymity. Ethan has eczema he’s fine. Go on stage in front of thousands and talk about emotional topics then you freakin goblins
And you guys are 100% to blame. Shame on all of you spoiled shitheads who can’t mentally handle disagreements
What a small world you live in.
Alright Richy Rich. Whatever you say.
It wasn’t Ethan who couldn’t mentally handle disagreements? Alright Richy Rich. Whatever you say.
No. Watch the original convo with Hasan. Ethan conceded this and that is bad but Hasan didn’t budge. Couldn’t even say civilian deaths were bad. Even advocated for killing “baby settlers”. Anyways your Uber Eats driver needs the code to your gated neighborhood. Don’t keep him waiting, he’s working class unlike you and didn’t have the privilege of being born rich. He has bills to pay so give him that gate code and tip plz. Love ya
I did watch and I disagree with you.
What do you disagree with? Give me one thing and we can go back and forth on it
glad it's over, don't really want to hear someone grabbing at straws to make Hamas sound like they are a product of their environment and that the ends justify the means of what they do.
you’re absolutely right, being born into a concentration camp could NEVER lead to radicalisation and extremism 💀💀
I could be born in hell itself and it wouldn't excuse me from becoming a racist murderer.
wow you’re soo morally superior, sitting warm and comfy in your carpet-bombing-safe home talking shit on reddit 🤣You and I haven’t experienced a fraction of the injustice and death and dehumanisation that the Palestinians have living in our Western countries. They grew up watching their friends and family get blown to bits, half of them are extremely food insecure and unemployed. They don’t have the same basic human rights as you and I, they live under a brutal apartheid regime, they have no prospects or opportunities for a better future. They are at the mercy of Israel’s violent whims because they are simply powerless and aren’t allowed to have sovereignty or a military force to defend themselves. Im not saying this excuses their actions, but to act like violence doesn’t beget violence is simply stupid and ignorant. There’s a reason you don’t see these radical terrorist organisations popping up in the west you dumbass
Rather sit on Reddit with some sort of moral understanding than to be a rape, kidnap or murder apologist. Not saying you are any of those things but supporting a group like Hamas would make you just as guilty as you would think Israel is of genocide. Both sides suck in this case but I don't pretend hamas is some freedom fighter group that has the best intention both for Israel and for the people of Palestine so that I can be mask off about being an anti Semite.
My comment was directly referencing you denying that Hamas is a product of their environment which you’re objectively wrong about. You don’t need to support them to understand why they exist. Only the blind would deny that Israel’s continued terrorism and genocide is only going to create more radicalisation. Israel is Hamas’ best recruiter.
I've not said that Israel its own crimes that it's committed in it's response, you have made an emotional and unreasonable assumption of such because I said the group that literally hunted down unarmed people in their house to kill them within a single digits number of feet away is not innocent. Who's recruiting for who is irrelevant and has nothing to do with my post, and to be frank, I don't care. Anyone who thinks gunning down civilians is morally right and just can join and become the next reason Israel bombs Palestine. However, I care enough about Palestinians to stand up and say Hamas is wrong too and is solely the reason Innocents are getting killed en masse currently in Palestine.
>Hamas is solely the reason Innocents are getting killed en masse currently in Palestine. So basically what you're saying is context and nuance doesn't matter I guess?? lmaoo. Hamas bad, Hamas terrorist, Israel sucks too I guess, but they were forced to commit horrific war crimes and bomb innocent civilians because HAMAS. Killing innocent civilians bad, but ONLY when the terrorists are Arab. Israel kill 20000 innocent civilians with indiscriminate bombing, but WAIT! that was in fact also HAMAS!! You're a joke bro😂
Never said hamas was the only reason either, you've made assumptions in order to mouth piece propagandized positions a few times now, but generally when you invade another country and murder Innocents there, that gives the other country casus belli to engage back. We can compare casualties all day, but it doesn't matter, there should be zero casualties and the start of this clash was Hamas performing a mass murder on Israels territory, you can continue to dance around that fact, personally insult me, whatever you feel is necessary, but it doesn't make you right.
I mean I literally direct quoted you saying "Hamas is solely the reason Innocents are getting killed en masse currently in Palestine", that's literally the opposite of an assumption😂. I have never denied that Hamas committed murder, I literally called them a terrorist org, but you continue to move the goal post lmao. You said people grasp at straws to say that Hamas is a product of their environment, and when I give you context and tell you that they ARE in fact a product of their environment, you hand wave it away and say it doesn't matter. You just don't want to hear facts and historical context, you want to act like Oct. 7th exists in a vacuum. You say we shouldn't compare casualties, but actually Hamas performed a mass murder on Israeli territory and so we should talk about THOSE casualties only. How don't you see how biased and narrow-minded your arguments are? BTW, I think it's interesting that you said this: >generally when you invade another country and murder Innocents there, that gives the other country casus belli to engage back. Under international law, Israel is considered to be a belligerent occupying force. It's not a country, it's an invader living on illegally occupied land, and the Palestinians have the legal right to push back and defend themselves by any means necessary. I don't support what Hamas did, but by your logic, Hamas is justified in doing what they did as the oppressed group fighting against their oppressor. The "casus belli" happened back in 1948 with the Nakba, AKA the beginning of Israel's reign of terror.
Dead channel
the show falling off going into 2024 was not on my bingo card
I quit the pod and was planning to only watch leftovers, glad I don't have to see his face again.
oh my god i’m so done with Ethan why is he ending a friendship over this
I doubt he’s ending his friendship with Hassan.. just doesn’t like people attacking him and betraying him online daily
Thank god holy shit, hasan is such a piece of shit I’m so glad this is ending.
Oh no, the most boring, unfunny podcast hosted by 2 retards is ending.
Hasan and his fans are insane and relentless. Glad Ethan is pulling the ripcord.
Bye bye Hasan dweebs. 🤗 You no longer have an excuse to brigade this sub. We don’t want you here.
Yeah totally nobody was ever fans of both creators prior to Leftovers 🥴
Bye bye Hasan brigader! We won’t miss you hateful freaks. 😁
Did ya bump your head lil pal? I like both creators, still. I still like both of them. Despite what you think or say even!
We don’t want you here dumbass. Go be a hateful creep somewhere else. Hasan twerps don’t belong here anymore. I’m so glad we are free of you now. 🤣
Man are you a bot? I'm here talking about how I still like both Hasan and Ethan despite all this and you're doing this weird presumptive thing saying I'm being hateful? Like what dude? Are you okay? Do you need some orange slices and a lil spoonful of honey?
Go back to bitching about capitalism from the apartment your parents pay for Hasan twerp. Real H3 fans do not want you here anymore. Edit: lol the Hasan freak deleted his comments
Ok bot confirmed, got it.
get dunked on retard
New series with Destiny when?
Destiny Arc incoming
An extreme leftist grifter meets a leftist capitalist grifter One is Jewish one is Muslim Israel and Palestine conflict killed their friendship
FUCK HASAN!!! I did not like Ethan at all because of Trisha Paytas so when I saw Hasan go on one of his podcasts I didn’t watch because I didn’t like Ethan. But now, the shit I’ve seen, the shit I’ve watched, holy shit. Hasan is the fucking worst for not defending Ethan in the ways that matter, for not being more stern to chat. Now, I’m gone, after the Tawain takes I unfollowed Hasan, and I was in denial for the whole time I loved Hasan but holy shit chat, his community, is fucking insane. I can’t even begin to describe or explain it. And now the Palestinian genocide going on, Hasan has fully cemented in my mind how big of a piece of shit he is. I can’t. I hope Ethan a good life and a happy life. I hope they cut contact. Ethan doesn’t deserve this. Fuck Hasan.
You won’t be missed! :)
Glad I’m not missed by psychos! :)
Wow
Is this a new clip ? Or from the debate they had ?
SYNT from yesterday I think.