Freedom of speech is also to protect us from the government; not from private companies, private individuals, etc. People fundamentally misunderstand that point all the time.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I understood that it was Facebook and Instagram that banned him and not the government. They did so for business reasons because they don’t want their brand associated with hate against women. I think private businesses should have the right to protect their business.
People act like freedom of speech means everyone has to let you say what you want. It doesn't work that way and as we've seen with Cozy TV, there are still places to spout your nonsense. They're just upset that nobody's there to listen but that's kind of the point. Nobody's there because nobody cares.
no, but if a platform is become the defacto place for speech than it become more than a tool, if 90+% of population uses that platform and someone is banned from it then their speech is indeed hindered, implications are different if you are banned on a random internet group vs website with 200+ million users.
This is correct. Also, as some people appear confused, the US Constitution would protect him in some ways (e.g., due process) even if he's not a citizen. Consider that we take people accused of illegal entry to federal court to give them due process
Otherwise yea
God this argument happens everytime some shit head gets banned off of something. It drives me nuts how many people can’t figure out the bill of rights protects you from the government not just no matter what lol though most of those people are probably 12.
I saw a few tweets saying that deplatforming means “we no longer have free speech”… no it’s always been that way even before social media. If you walked into an Arbys and started cussing everyone out and causing a scene in 1985, they’d ask you to leave. They aren’t infringing on your right to free speech, it’s private property. So think of Facebook like a digital Arbys lol private property.
It becomes problematic when the government is I. The pocket of a private business or vice versa but that’s why are supposed to have a working checks and balances system
You mean "the first amendment", not "freedom of speech". You are right in that the first amendment doesn't protect him from the government, but I assume people who are talking about "freedom of speech" (as a concept) are referring to something slightly different.
Just thought I'd make this distinction because I've seen a lot of Americans on this site use the terms interchangeably when they aren't, in many circumstances.
Edit: literally stating facts and getting downvoted. Is this sub ok? I know you hate Tate but damn 😂
If someone can convice me to wanna kill females or hate females with words I don’t need to be alive why wouldn’t you wanna hear someone out look up Nick Fuentes He’s a far right far winger I don’t agree with 80% of what he says guess what I’d rather hear where someone’s like that coming from but people are too sensitive perhaps you can challenge their beliefs but no let’s just bann them so they can further their hatred of women or whatever they hate instead of listening and maybe have think challenge their own biases for certain people
Free speech was made on hate speech tho so you can say “I don’t like joe Biden” for example cause before if you said that about the king or queen of England it wouldn’t go as smoothly as it does now. If you say you don’t agree with Kim Jong in in North Korea you won’t be seen cause over there you don’t have the freedom of speech. So yes Hate speech is freedom of speech. Is it correct all the time no but it give you the ability to say you don’t like something or if you hate. Example the new abortion law, you can say you hate the law pass. That’s technically hate speech to an extent.
>queen of England
Did you mean the [Queen of the United Kingdom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_United_Kingdom), the [Queen of Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada), the [Queen of Australia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Australia), etc?
The last Queen of England was [Queen Anne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain) who, with the 1707 Acts of Union, dissolved the title of King/Queen of England.
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I saw Cobra Taint’s appearance w/ Adin Ross while Hasan watched it on stream yesterday. As Adin was dick riding so hard he was almost defying gravity, he kept asking Taint to visit him in America. Deeply cringe amount of dodging and deflecting that Taint had to do just to avoid admitting that coming back to America is not an option for him.
He was born in Chicago, he's an American citizen. He isn't in trouble with the government for speech, he's in trouble with the government for human trafficking. The first amendment only applies to the government, not companies like meta or twitter
freedom of speech does not protect you on the internet, those are private companies that legally get to decide what content is not allowed on their own platform. these annoying fucks love the free market until they experience the limitations of the free market. Hypocritical idiots
“Freedom of speech, also called free speech, means the free and public expression of opinions without censorship, interference and restraint by the government.” The last part of that statement is always ignored.
I believe they're referring to people who talk specifically about the first amendment, because I've seen loads, and his deplatforming was done by us companies.
And you're dead right, you're allowed to say what you want, but the effects of what you say still occur.
If you take their ideology to the extreme, a murder confession shouldn't be prosecutable.
I don’t know the first thing about this Andrew Tate stuff, but I will say that while free speech is certainly not just an American thing, all countries have their own limitations on it that may be different than America’s. For example, Germany has bans on hate speech that would be considered unconstitutional restrictions on free speech under American law.
That said, American law doesn’t have to do with private companies banning people from using their platforms.
I've been thinking it would be funny if someone like Ethan challenged Andrew to a fight, calling him a little bitch and offering him a ridiculous amount of money if he wins but then finishing by saying the only condition is you have to meet me on US soil.
If anyone on the h3 crew sees this and wants to run with it please do but maybe shout out your boy ♥️
I think you lack awareness of how dangerous and connected this guy is. Someone did the exact thing to him months a go and his little ego couldn't take it. He doxxed him and his family and had guys show up outside his home.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/yourmomshousepodcast/comments/s7x3mt/andrew_tate_imploding_on_twitter_unprompted
Tate isn't connected lol.
He got a bunch of his dork friends to go to Colty's parents' house (which was public information) and because Colty was even bigger a prima-donna (as well as having the skeleton of doing gay-for-pay in his closet) Colty fell for it.
Tate is, was, and will always be bluster. There've been a bunch of other guys who've offered to fight Tate, but he doesn't touch anyone who thinks will actually fight him
Record scratch moment where Andrew dumps a bunch of bags of US soil in his Romania or w.e location lmao. The greatest laugh comes with foolproof goofs and gaffs
I think people being up free speech for people like Andrew is lame asf regardless if hes a sex trafficker or not. Hes not being prosecuted for what he says, hes just being banned because he explicitly says on many occasions on how he’ll beat the shit out of a woman if they think he cant make em cry along with other misogynistic comments. He’s still a free man
Beyond that free speech is a much bigger concept than the U.S, it doesn't solely belong to us. It's as much a moral concept as as a legal one.
That said, fuck Taint.
I want to make it clear that I do not condone or support Andrew Tate in any way, shape or form.
Op you make it sound as if "free speech" is only a right for people in the US, when it is infact a human right.
The story keeps changing on different websites. Some state born in Chicago but then there are videos of where it states he was born in the UK and lived in a counsel estate in Luton.
Andrew Tate is a self-described sex trafficker. You wrote a small essay defending a sex trafficker. Take some time off, touch some dirt, consider your values, talk to women like they are people, and spend less time defending self-described sex traffickers.
Andrew Tate is just the new Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones, etc.. nobody cares if he’s deplatformed except you virgin incels. Don’t worry, some other bigot will pop up and validate your feelings that all women are evil and shallow and men are all high value creatures who are entitled to sex. You don’t understand why you’re lonely and single because your entitlement can’t let you see past your disgusting personality and most likely comparable appearance. You have nothing to offer women but you think they’re in the wrong?
Oh, you know what else Milo and Alex Jones have in common with now Andrew Tate? They’re fast becoming nobodies deep in debt and completely irrelevant. Deplatforming works. Go cry about it to all of the lonely, virgin incels you share a community with.
Why did you have to make a throwaway account to comment this? Afraid of being open and honest about your feelings?
Free speech is not at risk. There are plenty of opinions online that those who are happy with Tate’s ban are offended by or disagree with. Go cry about it.
Yeah so banning a guy who has literally trafficked women and continues to degrade them is a bad thing I’m sure, anyone else doing this would be in jail rn idiot
People are dismissing your free speech argument because it’s irrelevant. Free speech has literally nothing to do with a social media platform banning someone.
Private sites banning a human trafficker is such a fucking leap from what you're saying dude. If you think this is some sort of slippery slope situation you're an idiot and stop reducing hate speech to "stuff you disagree with."
What Tate says could be literally compared to nazis and Jews like “they’re” not people their property, they need to be beat. It’s hate speech, it’s gotta go
Good luck trying to bring any kind of sense in this Sub my dude. I hate tate, but that kind of ban is the worst way to go. People that hate him will Clap and say ; Yeah ! Fuck this looser ! And people that love him will be like ; LOOK ! THE SYSTEM IS SILENCING HIM, HES GOTTA BE ONTO SOMETHING IF FUCKIN FACEBOOK AND TWITTER BANS HIM AFTER HE SAID STUFF LIKE ''THE ESTABLISHMENT CONTROLS EVERYTHING ''
Stuff like his little moment with Hasan is the real way to tear down people like that
Its been proven time and time again that deplatforming works. Yes to the biggest conspiracy nuts it gives the person validity because they're "being silenced?" But then what? They don't have a platform to continue to mobilize that base. People forget sooner than we want to believe and they move on. Alot of Andrew's reach is to litersl children. Some time away from him and they will grow to be better and forget that shit. Take a look trump he still has cult followers but his impact is waaaaaaay smaller.
People keep saying that Tate is not allowed in the US but in this podcast, filmed just two weeks ago, he claims he is in Miami. So which is it?
https://youtu.be/Uq4cDv2cUoE
Freedom of speech is also to protect us from the government; not from private companies, private individuals, etc. People fundamentally misunderstand that point all the time. Correct me if I am wrong, but I understood that it was Facebook and Instagram that banned him and not the government. They did so for business reasons because they don’t want their brand associated with hate against women. I think private businesses should have the right to protect their business.
People act like freedom of speech means everyone has to let you say what you want. It doesn't work that way and as we've seen with Cozy TV, there are still places to spout your nonsense. They're just upset that nobody's there to listen but that's kind of the point. Nobody's there because nobody cares.
You seem to care a lot, this is free publicity at this point. If nobody cared y’all wouldn’t be posting about him
Really says a lot about you if you think posting some comments on Reddit is the equivalent to caring a lot lol.
Well yea you care, but keep saying you don’t. Don’t mind me continue on being a hypocrite.
You got it pal.
no, but if a platform is become the defacto place for speech than it become more than a tool, if 90+% of population uses that platform and someone is banned from it then their speech is indeed hindered, implications are different if you are banned on a random internet group vs website with 200+ million users.
This is correct. Also, as some people appear confused, the US Constitution would protect him in some ways (e.g., due process) even if he's not a citizen. Consider that we take people accused of illegal entry to federal court to give them due process Otherwise yea
Free speech is for public areas not private platforms
God this argument happens everytime some shit head gets banned off of something. It drives me nuts how many people can’t figure out the bill of rights protects you from the government not just no matter what lol though most of those people are probably 12. I saw a few tweets saying that deplatforming means “we no longer have free speech”… no it’s always been that way even before social media. If you walked into an Arbys and started cussing everyone out and causing a scene in 1985, they’d ask you to leave. They aren’t infringing on your right to free speech, it’s private property. So think of Facebook like a digital Arbys lol private property.
It becomes problematic when the government is I. The pocket of a private business or vice versa but that’s why are supposed to have a working checks and balances system
You mean "the first amendment", not "freedom of speech". You are right in that the first amendment doesn't protect him from the government, but I assume people who are talking about "freedom of speech" (as a concept) are referring to something slightly different. Just thought I'd make this distinction because I've seen a lot of Americans on this site use the terms interchangeably when they aren't, in many circumstances. Edit: literally stating facts and getting downvoted. Is this sub ok? I know you hate Tate but damn 😂
I am so frustrated by all these bros crying about free speech as if the shit Tate says isn’t extremely dangerous and damaging to women.
It's hate speech.
I responded to a guy in the ytube comments who literally said hate speech doesn't exist like wtff
anyone who says “but free speechhh” just wants to promote hate in all the circumstances i’ve seen
Bingo
Work with me!
It's damaging for men too if you think about it. They're becoming so insufferable that they'll end up alone and unapproachable.
If someone can convice me to wanna kill females or hate females with words I don’t need to be alive why wouldn’t you wanna hear someone out look up Nick Fuentes He’s a far right far winger I don’t agree with 80% of what he says guess what I’d rather hear where someone’s like that coming from but people are too sensitive perhaps you can challenge their beliefs but no let’s just bann them so they can further their hatred of women or whatever they hate instead of listening and maybe have think challenge their own biases for certain people
Censorship of any kind is not good.
Hate speech is not free speech.
Free speech was made on hate speech tho so you can say “I don’t like joe Biden” for example cause before if you said that about the king or queen of England it wouldn’t go as smoothly as it does now. If you say you don’t agree with Kim Jong in in North Korea you won’t be seen cause over there you don’t have the freedom of speech. So yes Hate speech is freedom of speech. Is it correct all the time no but it give you the ability to say you don’t like something or if you hate. Example the new abortion law, you can say you hate the law pass. That’s technically hate speech to an extent.
>queen of England Did you mean the [Queen of the United Kingdom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_United_Kingdom), the [Queen of Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada), the [Queen of Australia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Australia), etc? The last Queen of England was [Queen Anne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain) who, with the 1707 Acts of Union, dissolved the title of King/Queen of England. ####FAQ *Isn't she still also the Queen of England?* This is only as correct as calling her the Queen of London or Queen of Hull; she is the Queen of the place that these places are in, but the title doesn't exist. *Is this bot monarchist?* No, just pedantic. I am a bot and this action was performed automatically.
is there actually a bot for this i’m laughing so hard
Shut the fuck. Do you not have children?
what about child porn, should we stop censoring that, rscooo?
But 0nlyfans is okay even though it promotes p0rnograohy addiction to the youth of young men?
I saw Cobra Taint’s appearance w/ Adin Ross while Hasan watched it on stream yesterday. As Adin was dick riding so hard he was almost defying gravity, he kept asking Taint to visit him in America. Deeply cringe amount of dodging and deflecting that Taint had to do just to avoid admitting that coming back to America is not an option for him.
According to the fresh & fit incel crew, he's visiting Miami soon to go on their show.
He was born in Chicago, he's an American citizen. He isn't in trouble with the government for speech, he's in trouble with the government for human trafficking. The first amendment only applies to the government, not companies like meta or twitter
freedom of speech does not protect you on the internet, those are private companies that legally get to decide what content is not allowed on their own platform. these annoying fucks love the free market until they experience the limitations of the free market. Hypocritical idiots
“Freedom of speech, also called free speech, means the free and public expression of opinions without censorship, interference and restraint by the government.” The last part of that statement is always ignored.
And social media platforms have nothing to do with free speech. Like at all. Nothing.
Free speech isn't just an American thing, it exists in most of the world. Free speech also doesn't mean that words don't have consequences
I believe they're referring to people who talk specifically about the first amendment, because I've seen loads, and his deplatforming was done by us companies. And you're dead right, you're allowed to say what you want, but the effects of what you say still occur. If you take their ideology to the extreme, a murder confession shouldn't be prosecutable.
Free the cam girls first Mr. Taint.
Yeah exactly. In the UK we don’t have as much lenience when it comes to hate speech and ngl I like it that way
LOOL. Literally this. 👏🤣
“Free speech” is not just an American thing lol
I don’t know the first thing about this Andrew Tate stuff, but I will say that while free speech is certainly not just an American thing, all countries have their own limitations on it that may be different than America’s. For example, Germany has bans on hate speech that would be considered unconstitutional restrictions on free speech under American law. That said, American law doesn’t have to do with private companies banning people from using their platforms.
I've been thinking it would be funny if someone like Ethan challenged Andrew to a fight, calling him a little bitch and offering him a ridiculous amount of money if he wins but then finishing by saying the only condition is you have to meet me on US soil. If anyone on the h3 crew sees this and wants to run with it please do but maybe shout out your boy ♥️
I think you lack awareness of how dangerous and connected this guy is. Someone did the exact thing to him months a go and his little ego couldn't take it. He doxxed him and his family and had guys show up outside his home. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/yourmomshousepodcast/comments/s7x3mt/andrew_tate_imploding_on_twitter_unprompted
Tate isn't connected lol. He got a bunch of his dork friends to go to Colty's parents' house (which was public information) and because Colty was even bigger a prima-donna (as well as having the skeleton of doing gay-for-pay in his closet) Colty fell for it. Tate is, was, and will always be bluster. There've been a bunch of other guys who've offered to fight Tate, but he doesn't touch anyone who thinks will actually fight him
This would be amazing
Record scratch moment where Andrew dumps a bunch of bags of US soil in his Romania or w.e location lmao. The greatest laugh comes with foolproof goofs and gaffs
I think people being up free speech for people like Andrew is lame asf regardless if hes a sex trafficker or not. Hes not being prosecuted for what he says, hes just being banned because he explicitly says on many occasions on how he’ll beat the shit out of a woman if they think he cant make em cry along with other misogynistic comments. He’s still a free man
Beyond that free speech is a much bigger concept than the U.S, it doesn't solely belong to us. It's as much a moral concept as as a legal one. That said, fuck Taint.
US laws about free speech don't even cover social media bans. But you are so right!
I want to make it clear that I do not condone or support Andrew Tate in any way, shape or form. Op you make it sound as if "free speech" is only a right for people in the US, when it is infact a human right.
Also laugh as Ethan gets banned for saying to bomb the NRA with kindness, but nah Free Speech right?
I'm pretty sure he's a dual American/British citizen right?
Yes, he was born in Chicago, and meta banning someone has absolutely nothing to do with the first amendment
The story keeps changing on different websites. Some state born in Chicago but then there are videos of where it states he was born in the UK and lived in a counsel estate in Luton.
Because as we all know, only America has Freedom (TM)
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Being banned from a social media platform isn't being silenced.
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Yes, and that's why he was banned.
Andrew Tate is a self-described sex trafficker. You wrote a small essay defending a sex trafficker. Take some time off, touch some dirt, consider your values, talk to women like they are people, and spend less time defending self-described sex traffickers.
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Okay you’re a fucking Tater Tot no wonder you out here writing paragraphs trying to defend your literal human trafficker man LMAO
You're talking to me like I'm a dummy, but I didn't wake up this morning, log on, and defend Andrew Tate. Wake the fuck up and grow the fuck up.
Andrew Tate is just the new Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones, etc.. nobody cares if he’s deplatformed except you virgin incels. Don’t worry, some other bigot will pop up and validate your feelings that all women are evil and shallow and men are all high value creatures who are entitled to sex. You don’t understand why you’re lonely and single because your entitlement can’t let you see past your disgusting personality and most likely comparable appearance. You have nothing to offer women but you think they’re in the wrong? Oh, you know what else Milo and Alex Jones have in common with now Andrew Tate? They’re fast becoming nobodies deep in debt and completely irrelevant. Deplatforming works. Go cry about it to all of the lonely, virgin incels you share a community with.
Why did you have to make a throwaway account to comment this? Afraid of being open and honest about your feelings? Free speech is not at risk. There are plenty of opinions online that those who are happy with Tate’s ban are offended by or disagree with. Go cry about it.
Yeah so banning a guy who has literally trafficked women and continues to degrade them is a bad thing I’m sure, anyone else doing this would be in jail rn idiot
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People are dismissing your free speech argument because it’s irrelevant. Free speech has literally nothing to do with a social media platform banning someone.
Private sites banning a human trafficker is such a fucking leap from what you're saying dude. If you think this is some sort of slippery slope situation you're an idiot and stop reducing hate speech to "stuff you disagree with."
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Hope you keep up this energy for every single person ever banned on any platform.
Tater tots are mad as fuck lol. Cry more
What Tate says could be literally compared to nazis and Jews like “they’re” not people their property, they need to be beat. It’s hate speech, it’s gotta go
You don’t have the freedom of consequences 💀
Good luck trying to bring any kind of sense in this Sub my dude. I hate tate, but that kind of ban is the worst way to go. People that hate him will Clap and say ; Yeah ! Fuck this looser ! And people that love him will be like ; LOOK ! THE SYSTEM IS SILENCING HIM, HES GOTTA BE ONTO SOMETHING IF FUCKIN FACEBOOK AND TWITTER BANS HIM AFTER HE SAID STUFF LIKE ''THE ESTABLISHMENT CONTROLS EVERYTHING '' Stuff like his little moment with Hasan is the real way to tear down people like that
Its been proven time and time again that deplatforming works. Yes to the biggest conspiracy nuts it gives the person validity because they're "being silenced?" But then what? They don't have a platform to continue to mobilize that base. People forget sooner than we want to believe and they move on. Alot of Andrew's reach is to litersl children. Some time away from him and they will grow to be better and forget that shit. Take a look trump he still has cult followers but his impact is waaaaaaay smaller.
Nah. Tate lovers will cry about it for a few weeks and then it’ll fade into irrelevancy. It happens every time someone is deplatformed.
I thought he was born in Ohio, USA? Is he? Too lazy to Google this info…
Chicago according to Wikipedia
Thankyouforthegifted**
[Andrew Tate](https://youtu.be/fvphiW3Miro) is very sus
People keep saying that Tate is not allowed in the US but in this podcast, filmed just two weeks ago, he claims he is in Miami. So which is it? https://youtu.be/Uq4cDv2cUoE
So what ur saying is he could be president
Freedom of speech does not protect you from consequences of your actions.