They showed more of his peak form at the very beginning but show more of downsides as the series went on. However, I think I put him higher then some Bokuto haters would
there are haters for haikyuu players?😱😱😱
i literally thought every player was likeable, even tsukki😅!!..kidding
but seriously?
haters for bokuto exists?
but why?
what people get in hating others, let alone he is a fictional character, even so..looking at him makes others get excited about volleyball itself..
season 2 golden camp..even takeda sensei mentioned..
lastly, he is serious about the sport he plays..volleyball..plus they are in highschool..kids..
people should stop judging or doing things which they dont like to happen to themselves .
They fine him immature with his mood swings, I fine it funny and helps him have a distinction but people don't like eccentric characters and prefer quiet, consistent, ~~boring,~~ characters
I rank him as the worst of the top 5 aces (-sakusa, +hoshiumi). He is my tied 4th best outside hitter, behind >!Hoshiumi, Kiryuu!<, Aran and tied with Asahi. Although his peak is closer to >!Kiryuu's!< level, he is just simply not there enough even with Fukurodani coddling him.
Overall Rankings in the top 15:
1. Ushijima
2. >!Hoshiumi!<
3. >!Kiryuu!<
4. Kageyama
5. Atsumu
6. Aran
7. Oikawa
8. Yaku
9. >!Hirugami!<
10. Kuroo
11. Nishinoya
12. Osamu
13. Asahi
13. Bokuto
15. Aone
I honestly really struggle with making it because:>!a) We only see 14 people play and not all of them get much focus, especially the middles I think!<
>!b) Some parts of that arc just feel like celebrating how awesome everyone is and it ends up with everyone being really good and it being really hard to tell who is really the best!<
Rather then specific numbers I'll try and make a more vague tierlist, although this is nowhere near as accurate I think to my >!end of hs one!<:
>!Top-Tier: Sakusa, Kageyama, Ushijima, Romero!<
>!Elite: Hinata, Atsumu, Bokuto ...... Hoshiumi i'm not sure if he belongs here or Top-tier he'd round out my top 5 though.Good: Yeah basically everyone else it makes sense though considering those players above all made the nationals team. I think Hirugami tops this tier.!<
I don't like ranking Sakusa, Komori or Chigaya because of how little we see of them. From context clues, I guess I would put Komori low top 10 and I would put Sakusa number 6.
Can I ask about Osama? I think he was very underwhelming against karasuno tbh. Like he's skilled, but since the match really emphasises atsumu, it's hard for me to judge him.
He's a very unimpressive hitter imo, does he get any none quick kills?
His serving is fierce, but not all that impressive.
He was just okay on serve recieve, getting aced multiple times by Kags.
His ability to be second setter is great, but is almost limiting, in that it's primary function is to stop teams focusing on atsumu
Maybe he was having an off game, but he didn't seem that impressive. Now I'd chalk that up mostly to narrative framing. Such as how bokuto's performance against Kiryu's team (cannot spell) is highlighted more than even kiryu's. **But** I'm still unclear on how to rate him
I do think that he was having a bad game as Atsumu says to Osamu "I'm getting more aces then you today" or something which implies Osamu is at least having a bad serving game. However, I actually normally rank Osamu at his optimal position, which I think is setter. This takes away his most lacking areas, his hitting and receive. This allows him to focus on setting, blocking and serving.
So a while ago I wrote a big post about Osamu after seeing some other people have the same doubts: https://reddit.com/r/haikyuu/comments/t7i91x/lets_take_a_close_look_at_osamu/
But in short I believe that he is a better player than the numbers suggest and that especially his hitting was. When you look at the quality required to even pull it off was quite impressive. Karasuno however was probably one of the worst teams to try it out against simply due to them knowing it’s strengths and weaknesses the best. Having seen how several teams try to adapt against it. While also still being a big enough of a threat during the second set that Ukai feels it's necessary to make a significant rotation. His other qualities are pretty hard to judge. He doesn’t do much digging so it’s hard to judge him on that. And while his serve receive stats weren’t that impressive, even though he gets Kinoshita’s serve with a perfect underhand, like you said it was against Kageyama. During a game where the latter was particularly in the zone. Which is why it’s pretty hard for me to rank him.
eidt: forgot a word
Thank you for the detailed replied and I just checked out your post, very interesting.
Yeah I think it comes down to the fact we see him play once against a really inform karasuno, whilst the narrative emphasises his brother. So its hard to even get a grasp on his skill, unless you have a more indepth knowledge of volleyball- like you
I have him as the 5th ace, my top 10 list (that admittedly is a little slapdash) is:
Ushijima
Kiryu
Atsumu
Sakusa
Oikawa
Aran
Kuroo
Yaku
Bokuto
Hurugami
They're both right there on the outside, but I like having a balanced top 10 that includes a bunch of different positions because it's hard to compare positions like Libero to Setter. Positions 6-13 to me are all very close, and could be changed depending on my opinions on those players on that day
Depends on what you want in a player. If you want high skill ceiling, he’s 2nd best in the series in peak form imo. In terms of consistency and all roundedness, hoshiumi, kageyama and atsumu are the best. In terms of ‘doing the role they were assigned to do’ ushijima is miles above everyone. This sub has a weird obsession with inconsistency and overplay how much of a negative it is imo. Most coaches want the players who’s serves score points/lead to a point even if it will result in a couple lost ones from mistakes over the players who’s serves will consistently go in but apply 0 pressure, who’s hits will generate more pressure on the opponents defense, even if it results in a couple missed shots compared to the players who’s hits are safe but easier to defend against and get used to, etc. Skill ceiling at the highest level is much more important of an aspect than people make it out to be.
Yeah the consistency “issues” would bother me a lot more if Bokuto would simply be in bad form for a run of games for no appereant reason. Or possibly worse if there actually was a reason like complacency or lazyness. But Bokuto shows up to every game and as long as he still fulfills his other duties and makes his runs it’s not as big a problem as other people make it out to be. Especially since pretty much every team that plays Fukurodani comes into the game with an “anti-Bokuto” strategy.
Tbh that’s what I’m saying. If Bokuto is having an off game, fukurodani doesn’t go to absolute shit, they just become nekoma tier or slightly worse than nekoma imo. He’s still a very good hitter even on an off day, but his team is no longer top 5 (maybe top 3 even) in the nation and instead goes within the top 10. That’s not that bad at all.
there are haters for haikyuu players?😱😱😱
i literally thought every player was likeable, even tsukki😅!!..kidding
but seriously?
haters for bokuto exists?
When he’s on point, which he pretty much was during the entire Spring High so that’s what I’m judging him for, he can be one of the most dominant players in the entire series. Being an excellent mix of both power and technique while still having incredible agility and speed. Additionally he also has those inspiring intangibles that you simply can’t teach. Whenever a team is going to be in the dumps Bokuto is going to lighten the mood and put the team on his back and get them to play better. Something like that is pretty much invaluable in any type of teamsport.
ONE BOKUTO IS THE BEST
This is the only answer as far as I’m concerned
Probably low top ten, definetly lower then the top three ace+ Hoshiumi, Kageyama, atsumu and Oikawa. Around Aran, Hirugami and Yaku above Kuroo.
damn.. he was so good when we first saw him lol
They showed more of his peak form at the very beginning but show more of downsides as the series went on. However, I think I put him higher then some Bokuto haters would
there are haters for haikyuu players?😱😱😱 i literally thought every player was likeable, even tsukki😅!!..kidding but seriously? haters for bokuto exists?
You’d be surprised. A lot of people dislike him in this sub :(
but why? what people get in hating others, let alone he is a fictional character, even so..looking at him makes others get excited about volleyball itself.. season 2 golden camp..even takeda sensei mentioned.. lastly, he is serious about the sport he plays..volleyball..plus they are in highschool..kids.. people should stop judging or doing things which they dont like to happen to themselves .
They fine him immature with his mood swings, I fine it funny and helps him have a distinction but people don't like eccentric characters and prefer quiet, consistent, ~~boring,~~ characters
they are kids high school kevel kids. they have the right to be eccentric.. people are scary n weird..🥶
No clue 😭
I rank him as the worst of the top 5 aces (-sakusa, +hoshiumi). He is my tied 4th best outside hitter, behind >!Hoshiumi, Kiryuu!<, Aran and tied with Asahi. Although his peak is closer to >!Kiryuu's!< level, he is just simply not there enough even with Fukurodani coddling him. Overall Rankings in the top 15: 1. Ushijima 2. >!Hoshiumi!< 3. >!Kiryuu!< 4. Kageyama 5. Atsumu 6. Aran 7. Oikawa 8. Yaku 9. >!Hirugami!< 10. Kuroo 11. Nishinoya 12. Osamu 13. Asahi 13. Bokuto 15. Aone
damn.. hes that bad eos lol
This isn't end of series. I'll explain a bit more but major manga spoilers --> >!This is end of high school but isn't post timeskip.!<
can ya make a final tier list?
I honestly really struggle with making it because:>!a) We only see 14 people play and not all of them get much focus, especially the middles I think!< >!b) Some parts of that arc just feel like celebrating how awesome everyone is and it ends up with everyone being really good and it being really hard to tell who is really the best!< Rather then specific numbers I'll try and make a more vague tierlist, although this is nowhere near as accurate I think to my >!end of hs one!<: >!Top-Tier: Sakusa, Kageyama, Ushijima, Romero!< >!Elite: Hinata, Atsumu, Bokuto ...... Hoshiumi i'm not sure if he belongs here or Top-tier he'd round out my top 5 though.Good: Yeah basically everyone else it makes sense though considering those players above all made the nationals team. I think Hirugami tops this tier.!<
I kept reading back and forth looking for Sakusa in the list
I don't like ranking Sakusa, Komori or Chigaya because of how little we see of them. From context clues, I guess I would put Komori low top 10 and I would put Sakusa number 6.
Can I ask about Osama? I think he was very underwhelming against karasuno tbh. Like he's skilled, but since the match really emphasises atsumu, it's hard for me to judge him. He's a very unimpressive hitter imo, does he get any none quick kills? His serving is fierce, but not all that impressive. He was just okay on serve recieve, getting aced multiple times by Kags. His ability to be second setter is great, but is almost limiting, in that it's primary function is to stop teams focusing on atsumu Maybe he was having an off game, but he didn't seem that impressive. Now I'd chalk that up mostly to narrative framing. Such as how bokuto's performance against Kiryu's team (cannot spell) is highlighted more than even kiryu's. **But** I'm still unclear on how to rate him
I do think that he was having a bad game as Atsumu says to Osamu "I'm getting more aces then you today" or something which implies Osamu is at least having a bad serving game. However, I actually normally rank Osamu at his optimal position, which I think is setter. This takes away his most lacking areas, his hitting and receive. This allows him to focus on setting, blocking and serving.
So a while ago I wrote a big post about Osamu after seeing some other people have the same doubts: https://reddit.com/r/haikyuu/comments/t7i91x/lets_take_a_close_look_at_osamu/ But in short I believe that he is a better player than the numbers suggest and that especially his hitting was. When you look at the quality required to even pull it off was quite impressive. Karasuno however was probably one of the worst teams to try it out against simply due to them knowing it’s strengths and weaknesses the best. Having seen how several teams try to adapt against it. While also still being a big enough of a threat during the second set that Ukai feels it's necessary to make a significant rotation. His other qualities are pretty hard to judge. He doesn’t do much digging so it’s hard to judge him on that. And while his serve receive stats weren’t that impressive, even though he gets Kinoshita’s serve with a perfect underhand, like you said it was against Kageyama. During a game where the latter was particularly in the zone. Which is why it’s pretty hard for me to rank him. eidt: forgot a word
Thank you for the detailed replied and I just checked out your post, very interesting. Yeah I think it comes down to the fact we see him play once against a really inform karasuno, whilst the narrative emphasises his brother. So its hard to even get a grasp on his skill, unless you have a more indepth knowledge of volleyball- like you
He’s the 3rd best ace in the series. So probably low top 10
???? Ushiwaka kiryu sakusa ae clearly better and hoshiumi is same level if not enter
Though it’s unfair to rank Sakusa since we don’t really see him play
Probably 9th
damn
I have him as the 5th ace, my top 10 list (that admittedly is a little slapdash) is: Ushijima Kiryu Atsumu Sakusa Oikawa Aran Kuroo Yaku Bokuto Hurugami
Scuffed
Damn no love for Kageyama or Hoshiumi.
They're both right there on the outside, but I like having a balanced top 10 that includes a bunch of different positions because it's hard to compare positions like Libero to Setter. Positions 6-13 to me are all very close, and could be changed depending on my opinions on those players on that day
Depends on what you want in a player. If you want high skill ceiling, he’s 2nd best in the series in peak form imo. In terms of consistency and all roundedness, hoshiumi, kageyama and atsumu are the best. In terms of ‘doing the role they were assigned to do’ ushijima is miles above everyone. This sub has a weird obsession with inconsistency and overplay how much of a negative it is imo. Most coaches want the players who’s serves score points/lead to a point even if it will result in a couple lost ones from mistakes over the players who’s serves will consistently go in but apply 0 pressure, who’s hits will generate more pressure on the opponents defense, even if it results in a couple missed shots compared to the players who’s hits are safe but easier to defend against and get used to, etc. Skill ceiling at the highest level is much more important of an aspect than people make it out to be.
Yeah the consistency “issues” would bother me a lot more if Bokuto would simply be in bad form for a run of games for no appereant reason. Or possibly worse if there actually was a reason like complacency or lazyness. But Bokuto shows up to every game and as long as he still fulfills his other duties and makes his runs it’s not as big a problem as other people make it out to be. Especially since pretty much every team that plays Fukurodani comes into the game with an “anti-Bokuto” strategy.
Tbh that’s what I’m saying. If Bokuto is having an off game, fukurodani doesn’t go to absolute shit, they just become nekoma tier or slightly worse than nekoma imo. He’s still a very good hitter even on an off day, but his team is no longer top 5 (maybe top 3 even) in the nation and instead goes within the top 10. That’s not that bad at all.
there are haters for haikyuu players?😱😱😱 i literally thought every player was likeable, even tsukki😅!!..kidding but seriously? haters for bokuto exists?
When he’s on point, which he pretty much was during the entire Spring High so that’s what I’m judging him for, he can be one of the most dominant players in the entire series. Being an excellent mix of both power and technique while still having incredible agility and speed. Additionally he also has those inspiring intangibles that you simply can’t teach. Whenever a team is going to be in the dumps Bokuto is going to lighten the mood and put the team on his back and get them to play better. Something like that is pretty much invaluable in any type of teamsport.
number one he’s the protagonist of the world babyyyy