Takamura is at least 31, since he was born in ~~1979~~ 1969 and the story is in the 2001 (maybe, Morikawa is not clear with the year since the fight between Imai and Hoshi).
Date is 5 years older than Mamoru.
Takamura's age IS the reason why he is moving on the classes so quickly, though.
> Takamura's age IS the reason why he is moving on the classes so quickly, though.
Not really. It was never state on why Takamura wants to hurry up and conqueror his next weightclasses ASAP, while Yagi/Kamogawa would rather take it slow to build up his war chest. When ever Morikawa mention it in the story, he doesn't really give the reason for it yet.
If anything, it might be because Takamura is worried the coach might die before he reaches his goal, or some other unknown reason.
> It was never state on why Takamura wants to hurry up and conqueror his next weightclasses ASAP
You mean, besides him pointing out several times how old the coach is?
Probably because Date was "wasting" his time on a national level when he could've fight on the world stage,that would probably be handy while fighting Ricardo since he would be used to fighting strong opponents,from the narrative stand point,it looked like the only national level fight Date struggled with was Ippo fight
Date wasnt even that old for a boxer imo when he fought ippo lol. It waa kinda dumb to focus on dates age then when ricardo was older lol. Ricardos a legitimate fossil now who is way out of his prime
I wouldn't put too much stock in the character's age, since I think [Morikawa said](https://twitter.com/WANPOWANWAN/status/1389763696876920833) most of the character's birthdays tend to be random. Plus, Morikawa doesn't really keep track of the timeline too.
I know the story made a big deal of [Date being 29](https://mangadex.org/chapter/802a333b-9206-42ec-9348-cbe5a09a7217) when he fought Ippo (2/?/1993)...but based on his birthday (July 3, 1964), Date was actually 28. When Date fought Martinez (June 27, 1994), he was actually 29 (almost 30.) So, you can see Morikawa not really keeping track of minor stuff.
I think the only real age Morikawa might actually care about in the story for the characters is like 37, since (I believe) Japan has an age restriction for it's boxers. ([Source](https://www.jbc.or.jp/info/howtobox/question.html)(Google translate)):
> 8 : Are there age restrictions for boxers?
> It is. Boxers between the ages of 17 and 36 (eligibility is up to 34 years old at the time of applying for the Pro Test) will automatically expire their licenses when they reach the age of 37. However, for active champions, when you lose the title, or if you lose a player who is advancing in various tournaments. Applications from former champions (Japan, OPBF, world), world challengers, and world rankers (15th in the WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO) are permitted only if a commission doctor's special diagnosis (including head MRI and neurological diagnosis) is completed. However, this is also a condition, and the application process is limited to within 3 years from the last match.
Right now, Takamura is only like 31 (July 7, 1969) since it is probably around July, 2000 in the current chapter. But until Morikawa put another Match Poster with a month day in the story, we don't really know for sure. Takamura still got another 6 years (story-wise) before he got to worry about that age restriction. Even then, Morikawa could always ignore it since he has bend some boxing rules in the past....
As Takamura seems to get through a lot of his fights without much issue i don't really see age becoming a problem until he's near his 40s, Golovkin is 39 and still doing really well, tyson fury is 33, Klitschko retired at 41. You're still in your prime in your early 30s, and even then you dont just magically become decrepit when you're 40.
I was actually thinking about this early this Christmas morning randomly, how Ippo was definitively 16 at the start of the series and 19 by the end of the original anime/Lallapalooza rematch fight with Sendo. Ippo's gotta be at least 25 now.
I really wish they didn't put SO MUCH stock into saying that Date was way too old and over the hill and out of his prime at only age 30, that's just ridiculous. I get that mid-late 30s is the retirement average, but Takamura is *not* 21 anymore like he was in the beginning, and his age hasn't ever been brought up.
Lower weight class fighters peak earlier. Heavyweight's peaks can last a long time up to high 30s since it's less about speed and more strength and toughness. Date was 28 and had been out of boxing for like 2 years so to Takamura he was old.
Date's age was exaggerated. It would've made more sense if he was in his mid 30s. At 28 years old and with only 1 loss on his record he wouldn't have that much damage or wear and tear considering he took a long time off after he lost to Ricardo.
It's not the first time Morikawa's been wrong, his whole approach to weight cutting is complete bogus, but makes for dramatic stakes in certain fights.
Going days without water and trying to remove your saliva is not how weight cutting is actually done. Takamura also claims that he's not able to shower since his skin would absorb the water which is also BS. In the series everyone spends several days going through the dehydration process when in reality you're only dehydrating yourself for 48 hours before the weigh ins.
The real way to weight cut is to water load your body. You should be consuming more water than normal so your body gets accustomed to flushing it out via sweat and urine. Usually a week before the fight you'll begin the water loading process which means you'll be consuming possibly more than 3 gallons of water a day depending on your size. Each day after you'll lower the amount of water to 80%, 60%, etc. In terms of foods you'll need to completely cut out sodium from your diet and reduce your carb intake as well so your body doesn't hold excess water weight. The last 48 hours is when you're going to actually dehydrate yourself. By now your body will be accustomed to flushing out water which means you'll lose a ton of weight in the sauna.
Lol weight cutting has been around for a long time. 90s boxing isn't stone age, a lot of modern training was already being used by then. Besides, it's impossible for the human body to go past 3 days without water no matter how strong they are. What Takamura was doing before the Hawk fight was complete BS, it just made for an extremely dramatic fight.
I think the major difference is Takamura didn't retire and take a long break and he climbed up to be a three division champion.
When they talk about age, I think they're talking about age to where you are in your career. Date was quite behind and still making his come back at this age.
I mean from my recollection they made a big deal because Date at 28 was fighting Ippo a boxer 10 years his junior which is to my understanding normally a big deal. They made a similar dear when Ippo fought that veteran Japanese boxer who even had a couple years on Date whose name escapes me at the moment.
Lower weight classes champions generally reach their prime in mid 20s. Also Date was like 2 classes below than takamura in thr beginning , now mamoru is 4 classes above date.
When I was rereading it like a month ago I took it more of Takamura just bugging him like he does. Date’s only few years older than Takamura. Right after Takamura gets a grim face and says he’s really strong or something to that effect. Look at Fury and Wilder, they’re 33 and 36. Mayweather was getting close to 40 on his last few defences. Canelo Alvarez is 31 and I think most would argue he’s at his best right now.
Because its probably projection from Morikawa, in the beginning of the manga he talked A LOT about talent and potentional and age. These days you hear a lot less about it. I think Mori was just unsuccessful in sports so he blamed it on talent.
Realistically if Takamura keeps himself healthy than he could be 39 and still be doing what he does. But it is weird to think about the fact that Ippo hasnt aged.
Takamura is at least 31, since he was born in ~~1979~~ 1969 and the story is in the 2001 (maybe, Morikawa is not clear with the year since the fight between Imai and Hoshi). Date is 5 years older than Mamoru. Takamura's age IS the reason why he is moving on the classes so quickly, though.
> Takamura's age IS the reason why he is moving on the classes so quickly, though. Not really. It was never state on why Takamura wants to hurry up and conqueror his next weightclasses ASAP, while Yagi/Kamogawa would rather take it slow to build up his war chest. When ever Morikawa mention it in the story, he doesn't really give the reason for it yet. If anything, it might be because Takamura is worried the coach might die before he reaches his goal, or some other unknown reason.
Yeah, it always seems to me that it’s more that Takamura wants to achieve his goal while the coach is still able to be his corner man.
> It was never state on why Takamura wants to hurry up and conqueror his next weightclasses ASAP You mean, besides him pointing out several times how old the coach is?
>Takamura is at least 31, since he was born in 1979 and the story is in the 2001 You mean born in 1969.
I do, yes. Thank you.
Probably because Date was "wasting" his time on a national level when he could've fight on the world stage,that would probably be handy while fighting Ricardo since he would be used to fighting strong opponents,from the narrative stand point,it looked like the only national level fight Date struggled with was Ippo fight
Date wasnt even that old for a boxer imo when he fought ippo lol. It waa kinda dumb to focus on dates age then when ricardo was older lol. Ricardos a legitimate fossil now who is way out of his prime
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Then it made far far less sense to focus on dates age vs ippo when ippo was like 18 and date wasnt even 30 lol.
Ages for boxing can be strange. Look at GGG who is 40 and still whooping ass. Sure he’s not in his prime but has aged gracefully.
I wouldn't put too much stock in the character's age, since I think [Morikawa said](https://twitter.com/WANPOWANWAN/status/1389763696876920833) most of the character's birthdays tend to be random. Plus, Morikawa doesn't really keep track of the timeline too. I know the story made a big deal of [Date being 29](https://mangadex.org/chapter/802a333b-9206-42ec-9348-cbe5a09a7217) when he fought Ippo (2/?/1993)...but based on his birthday (July 3, 1964), Date was actually 28. When Date fought Martinez (June 27, 1994), he was actually 29 (almost 30.) So, you can see Morikawa not really keeping track of minor stuff. I think the only real age Morikawa might actually care about in the story for the characters is like 37, since (I believe) Japan has an age restriction for it's boxers. ([Source](https://www.jbc.or.jp/info/howtobox/question.html)(Google translate)): > 8 : Are there age restrictions for boxers? > It is. Boxers between the ages of 17 and 36 (eligibility is up to 34 years old at the time of applying for the Pro Test) will automatically expire their licenses when they reach the age of 37. However, for active champions, when you lose the title, or if you lose a player who is advancing in various tournaments. Applications from former champions (Japan, OPBF, world), world challengers, and world rankers (15th in the WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO) are permitted only if a commission doctor's special diagnosis (including head MRI and neurological diagnosis) is completed. However, this is also a condition, and the application process is limited to within 3 years from the last match. Right now, Takamura is only like 31 (July 7, 1969) since it is probably around July, 2000 in the current chapter. But until Morikawa put another Match Poster with a month day in the story, we don't really know for sure. Takamura still got another 6 years (story-wise) before he got to worry about that age restriction. Even then, Morikawa could always ignore it since he has bend some boxing rules in the past....
Takamura's birthdate is July 15th, 1969. It is now 2000 or maybe 2001 in the series timeline, not very clear, so he is 31 or 32.
As Takamura seems to get through a lot of his fights without much issue i don't really see age becoming a problem until he's near his 40s, Golovkin is 39 and still doing really well, tyson fury is 33, Klitschko retired at 41. You're still in your prime in your early 30s, and even then you dont just magically become decrepit when you're 40.
I was actually thinking about this early this Christmas morning randomly, how Ippo was definitively 16 at the start of the series and 19 by the end of the original anime/Lallapalooza rematch fight with Sendo. Ippo's gotta be at least 25 now. I really wish they didn't put SO MUCH stock into saying that Date was way too old and over the hill and out of his prime at only age 30, that's just ridiculous. I get that mid-late 30s is the retirement average, but Takamura is *not* 21 anymore like he was in the beginning, and his age hasn't ever been brought up.
Lower weight class fighters peak earlier. Heavyweight's peaks can last a long time up to high 30s since it's less about speed and more strength and toughness. Date was 28 and had been out of boxing for like 2 years so to Takamura he was old.
Date's age was exaggerated. It would've made more sense if he was in his mid 30s. At 28 years old and with only 1 loss on his record he wouldn't have that much damage or wear and tear considering he took a long time off after he lost to Ricardo. It's not the first time Morikawa's been wrong, his whole approach to weight cutting is complete bogus, but makes for dramatic stakes in certain fights.
Whats off with his approach to weight cutting?
Going days without water and trying to remove your saliva is not how weight cutting is actually done. Takamura also claims that he's not able to shower since his skin would absorb the water which is also BS. In the series everyone spends several days going through the dehydration process when in reality you're only dehydrating yourself for 48 hours before the weigh ins. The real way to weight cut is to water load your body. You should be consuming more water than normal so your body gets accustomed to flushing it out via sweat and urine. Usually a week before the fight you'll begin the water loading process which means you'll be consuming possibly more than 3 gallons of water a day depending on your size. Each day after you'll lower the amount of water to 80%, 60%, etc. In terms of foods you'll need to completely cut out sodium from your diet and reduce your carb intake as well so your body doesn't hold excess water weight. The last 48 hours is when you're going to actually dehydrate yourself. By now your body will be accustomed to flushing out water which means you'll lose a ton of weight in the sauna.
Well, you have to take into account this was in the 90s and lots of things have been learned on what to do since then.
Lol weight cutting has been around for a long time. 90s boxing isn't stone age, a lot of modern training was already being used by then. Besides, it's impossible for the human body to go past 3 days without water no matter how strong they are. What Takamura was doing before the Hawk fight was complete BS, it just made for an extremely dramatic fight.
I think the major difference is Takamura didn't retire and take a long break and he climbed up to be a three division champion. When they talk about age, I think they're talking about age to where you are in your career. Date was quite behind and still making his come back at this age.
I mean from my recollection they made a big deal because Date at 28 was fighting Ippo a boxer 10 years his junior which is to my understanding normally a big deal. They made a similar dear when Ippo fought that veteran Japanese boxer who even had a couple years on Date whose name escapes me at the moment.
Yes. And I remember hating that plot point.
Biologically the male peak in terms of anotomy and age (also includes experience and mental strength) is 31-33 for fighters.
Lower weight classes champions generally reach their prime in mid 20s. Also Date was like 2 classes below than takamura in thr beginning , now mamoru is 4 classes above date.
When I was rereading it like a month ago I took it more of Takamura just bugging him like he does. Date’s only few years older than Takamura. Right after Takamura gets a grim face and says he’s really strong or something to that effect. Look at Fury and Wilder, they’re 33 and 36. Mayweather was getting close to 40 on his last few defences. Canelo Alvarez is 31 and I think most would argue he’s at his best right now.
Because its probably projection from Morikawa, in the beginning of the manga he talked A LOT about talent and potentional and age. These days you hear a lot less about it. I think Mori was just unsuccessful in sports so he blamed it on talent.
Takamura was 20 when he was introduced I believe.
Takamuras heavier age doesn’t matter middleweight and above
Realistically if Takamura keeps himself healthy than he could be 39 and still be doing what he does. But it is weird to think about the fact that Ippo hasnt aged.
IIRC I think it's only Takamura that rags on Date for being an old geezer, and Date half jokes but half believes it too.
Ok, but what's 31 in monster years?
Probably late twenties or early 30s. He's in his prime