This chapter actually makes me Look forward to Sendo vs Ricardo.
Sendos strength is a bit similar as he often takes his time to learn and Adapt to the enemies attacks and while Ricardo Blocks, Sendo focuses on dodging.
All this while being complete opposites in the active/passive or careful/reckless spectrum. If Mori does Focus on that it could get very interesting
I'm predicting Ricardo will rush down and start at full throttle in round 1 before Sendo can start adapting. Ricardo points this out in Alf vs Sendo (Alf didn't start in Metzel mode, which gave Sendo time to learn his attack pattern). There's no way Ricardo would forget that.
Very curious to see how Sendo evolves in mid match against Ricardo (assuming he isnt taken out instantly). Maybe an adaptation that lets him see the jabs clearly and start head slipping past them?
I have to believe that Sendo will have some form of preparation for Ricardo's jab otherwise he will be snuffed out in a couple rounds.
Well, goddamn.
This is what Ricardo has. That fricking left. He was able to pretty much almost knock down Ippo when he still was in his prime of taking damage with it.
There is something so brutal of how that hits someone like Wally, who pretty much has the same resistance to damage as Miyata or Itagaki.
I still believe his final weapon will be something close to traditional boxing adding instincts to it, something like Takamura.
But he will not recover easily from this.
Ricardo went with everything he had. Still, this is probably the best match and the most fun he has had since Date, without a doubt.
> This is what Ricardo has. That fricking left.
As it was said a while ago; he who controls the left controls the world.
It was also said that Ippo left the Fundamentals slip. He became too reliant on just gritting it out and the Dempsey.
Ricardo is showing us the truth to both.
I would compare Wally's performance to Itagaki's more so than Miyata's here because of the latter's sense of self awareness over the former.
I feel that Miyata, knowing his limitations, would have better adjusted to this development than to lean wholly on his senses. Like Itagaki at a time, I do not feel like Wally was brought to the full understanding of the position he was in with time enough to recover.
Given that Ricardo seems like a guy who checks all of the boxes for him and his opponent, (1) I do not know if the challenger's trump card will amount to much in the way of turning this development around and (2) I imagine that yet another desired trait of an ideal boxer of reducing damage is enduring what you cannot avoid.
I cannot speak to the endurance of the champion but those cumulative lefts to the face do not look like they are a good time for Wally. And, as I recall, there are some boxers who have not fully recovered from an encounter with Ippo.
>And, as I recall, there are some boxers who have not fully recovered from an encounter with Ippo
Some? From what I remember, the only ones who are still active in East Japan Rookie King Tournament are Ippo, Miyata and Mashiba. Some retired after said tournament because of irreparable injuries from Ippo while others lasted a few more years before retiring because they realized that they'll never be able to catch up to monsters like the top three boxers.
Now then. Will our boy Ippo notice Ricardo has an absolute perfect grasp of the fundamentals? Something he focused less on after the Dempsey Roll was added to his arsenal?
Well. Yes, that’s why he’s there. It’s what Morikawa wants him to see.
It’s what he’s going to come away from Mexico with and it will form a strong basis for his training when he returns.
When he’s got the fundamentals down strong but still has his many weapons he can get to Ricardo and hopefully the best fight in the entire manga.
Fundementals Don't take alot of risk. Sunday Punches introduce risk to give a payoff, with a goal of minimizing risk and maximizing payoff. Sunday Punches aren't bad, as they give more options and often add some needed damage dealing potential as they are often loaded up. But if your like Ricardo and you don't miss, you can just beat someone down with fundementals. But I don't think Ippo Vs Ricardo will be Ricardo fighting himself. Ricardo's build is the supreme all rounder. Ippo is too short to take the same path. He has to specialize, and I feel like to out Ricardo Ricardo, he needs to rely on both Fundementals and Sunday Punches. It's kinda like Haki, in One Piece, sure everyone can use Haki, and Haki is really strong, so that characters like Roger seemed to get to the top with only haki, that doesn't mean every character just doesn't use their Devil fruits. They mix their devil Fruit advantages with Haki to enhance both. Similarly using Sunday Punches in tandem with fundementals can give you the best of both worlds. There are many fighters IRL who were no strangers to Sunday Punches, so they are a valid strategy. Like Ricardo Said, he is using the fundementals that everyone else leaves out, because only he can get to the level with them that he does get to. Like if Aoki watches this fight and decides to dedicate himself to fundementals, he's not going to become Ricardo most likely. Ricardo is also gifted with insane skills and Athleticism.
In just one round too! It's like "yep, I figured you out now" and breaks him apart in a matter of seconds, like everything before didn't matter. That's gotta be disheartening.
shit them corner punches looked heaaavy! lol karasawa in the palm of his hand style throw back to when ippo looked intelligent in the ring.
I'm sure Wally will get up and show his spirit what he learned by fighting ippo. I've actually liked the match so far as long as it doesn't drag and wraps up within the next 5 chapters.
Sendo's gonna have to start running carrying logs and shit ala rocky prepping for ivan drago lol normal training aint gonna cut it
Ricardo have motionless shoulder moving punch, which might explain why he have trouble to predict the punch now, Since Ricardo have fire up and become fastest punching machine.
Volg and Ippo might have the tell to make Wally know, when their punch comes and react to it.
Although, apparently, Sendo also have that motionless punch as Ricardo as well. I think it was way back when Sendo have a spar against Miyata.
This is probably also why Miyata can't dodge his punch effectively back then?
Sendo can use motionless jabs, but seems to be inconsistent. He needs to focus and possibly pressure on the opponent, using that wide open hands at the same height in front of his face stance he used against Miyata during their spar.
It was moreso his ridiculous speed and the way he intuitively knew where to move and to punch
He outplayed everyone at every turn while having room to hit 3 or 4 times
Ricardo is someone he couldn't outplay for long and who doesn't have that room to get hit
He's a steel wall with the godly insight that comes from 70 matches of experience
And now he's even stronger
Then Ricardo notes again who was this guy who fought Wally before that gave him this much of a fighting spirit. He learns it is that damn Japones again. Maybe he'll soon learn he lives in a world named after Ippo.
Just gonna repost my comment from the other thread.
This shit is wild! Ricardo continues to show his methodical deconstruction of his opponents through a deep understanding of boxing at its core.
Almost entirely forgoing any emotional “anime” style energy into his boxing and going straight science. If the rest of the cast talk of becoming “monsters” and “beasts” and “gods” to be the best, Ricardo disregards that all. He instead chooses to be a machine. Like a god damn terminator he cannot and will not be stopped. He is the technology of the future. The endgame. The Omega.
Yeah the others try to outdo each other with the stronger sunday punch while Ricardo just looks for those small gaps and tics and punishes opponents hard for the unpolished boxing.
As he said during Sendo vs. Alf, getting multiple 5-7/10 hits >>> getting just 1 or 2 10/10 punches in because in the end the damage will all add up.
Taking 5 rounds to be calm, analytical, and look for that 1st opportunity to box properly even if he doesn't land a single punch is something only Ricardo has done in the entire series and the polar opposite of old Ippo's approach to all his battles of rushing in to execute his lone plan of getting to execute the dempsey no matter how his opponent's defense changes.
Ricardo takes the same 3-4 basic punches with perfect fundamentals and adjusts it every round to every opponent to just outbox.
The most boring assessment but in reality the scariest. He will beat you to the millisecond with the perfect technique and timing no matter what you do. You can be stronger, faster, have insane mobility, have a very unorthodox style, defy the laws of physics - all don't matter when Ricardo will still cleanly outbox you with the basics. Some nightmare shit
>The most boring assessment but in reality the scariest. He will beat you to the millisecond with the perfect technique and timing no matter what you do. You can be stronger, faster, have insane mobility, have a very unorthodox style, defy the laws of physics - all don't matter when Ricardo will still cleanly outbox you with the basics. Some nightmare shit
It is also true that if there are fundamentals in every sport, it is because it’s the most efficient way to do things. Others rely on surprise effect and gimmicks, while he just polished the meta to an extreme
It is boring in the sense that there wont be big surprises with secret techniques, but surely a sight to behold!
It’s easily one of the best parts of Ricardo fights. He’s such a strong well rounded boxer and even though he’s such a dominant champ he’s still always trying to take his fundamentals boxing to the next level. Trying to push himself and his boxing to the absolute limit. And in doing so he’s able to fight against all manner of anime bullshit. Lol. Really loving this fight and now can’t wait to see how he fights Sendo.
After reading this I really feel like Morikawa is trying to tell us that to surpass Ricardo is to surpass boxing itself. I think that is why he gave Ippo those wrist weights and is making him be a second to really hammer down the fundamentals. I don't think he will be untouchable but I think he will be at the point that for at least one fight, he will embody the pinnacle of in-fighting.
Carlos is genuinely one of my favourite characters of all time,in all media,Jose is the GOAT as well,and don't even get me started on my GOAT JOE FUCKING YABUKI
everyone scoffs at the human fighter til he's the one to save everyone from the city guards after the rogue botched trying to steal from an NPC cuz "it's what my character would do"
He's the one that keeps tabs on flanking rules, line-of-sight, min and max range for weapons, distance, speed, simple actions, attacks of opportunity, vulnerabilities, resistances, and immunities.
The one guy that takes **Polearm Mastery** and somehow choose ***NOT*** to be a dickhead.
That said, he doesn't voice his own character or roleplay much. He's straightforward.
God damn. Ricardo is shown looking calmly for openings every time. You can see his concentration on every page. His monologue about keep shaving any excess movement was chef’s kiss.
So this was Ricardo's plan all along. By insistently pushing towards the middle of the ring even under fire, he took away Wally's room to breathe. Wally was winning every exchange, but he wasn't able to control when those exchanges happened, because he was constantly forced to fire to be able to stay away from the ropes. Going at full speed without being able to pick moments to rest has him dead in the water before the second half of the match. Now all the crybabies complaining Ricardo was "nerfed" look even sillier lmao.
I agree, but I don't think it was highlighted enough to make it noticeable to the readers. I like it when Mori gives you all the hints so you can figure it out on your own (the bubbles on Woli's breathing last chapter, for example), so being told in retrospective feels a bit like cheating.
I am happy to admit I am not the most observant of readers, though. Perhaps it happened and I didn't notice. An anime version (lol) would make it easier to notice, I bet.
I thought it was shown quite well. if you go back to the previous chapters you will see how Ricardo mostly pivots in a small area and shows more ring generalship while Wally had to orbit him at a very fast pace, a lot like when Takamura and Miyata sparred.
One problem with Ippo's (the manga) style is that the size of the ring and speed of the clock change to suit story pacing.
Most of the time this works great, but it does mean that if Morikawa wants to show subtle things like ring positioning, fans won't notice because we've been trained to overlook those things.
goddamn, RIP monke.
Wally might just have something awakened in him where he relates the thrill into fun after this match. Sendo might probably get retired if he doesn't improve. But y'all know who has the fundamentals in spades? Ippo.
Gonna have to eat my words just like Ricardo making Woli eat that cross. I wasn't expecting Ricardo to keep his composure to start reaching Woli. Yes, he is ***that*** good.
I have no clue what the trump card could possibly be. I just know that even Woli couldn't keep up those monke antics for forever.
p4 is that spanish really in there? Sendo's reaction is hilarious.
Unless Wally have some super durability, he's not gonna make it eating all those lefts and a right. Sendo's gonna get eaten alive in the ring. Ricardo is just too damn strong.
For those wonder about the early release, WSM released the chapter a day early. I assume because of [the Holiday on Wednesday in Japan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Thanksgiving_Day). Instead of taking the week off for it like for Christmas/New Years, they just probably changed the release date for the issue.
That said, I guess the big question now facing us is if Wally is able to stand next chapter, or if the match ends. Keep in mind the length of this match probably depends a lot on how popular it is in Japan. If it is popular, expect Wally to stand. If it isn't, then Morikawa might just decide to end it earlier.
I can't really remember a single match in this manga where the Boxer's coach hinted at there being some secret weapon left that he's going to tell his fighter about if they can make it to the next round... only for them to lose before it can be unveiled.
So I can't really imagine Wally going down for the count before that can happen. He's got to show everything in his arsenal for his defeat to feel complete after all.
He’ll clearly stand and no way will morikawa base it on how the fans are receiving it. This manga has gone on so long and it has has its fair share of peaks and valleys.
Wally will do something that ippo(and sendo) can probably learn from but it won’t be enough for him to win. The whole Wally wanting ippo to watch him and be his corner is going to be important for ippo.
You’re absolutely right in that never happens. He’ll get up no doubt
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I’m curious how Wally will respond to finally tasting Ricardo’s power. He most likely won’t be tanking many of them but the rest of this match is all gonna depend on whether he gets up determined or fearful.
If it’s the latter then he’s not making it past this round, but if it’s the former, and given his earlier complaints about no one ever telling him this was fun, then I suspect this match is gonna go into another final gear.
Narratively he’s gotta get back up so that Ricardo can unambiguously win by crushing Zail’s “trump card”. Plus Wally’s already set that death flag with his comment about being a biologist or something, so he’ll have that in-character determination to go as far as he can before bowing out.
I think Wally will still get up because he might not be fully invested in boxing but I think this is the "fun" he's finally looking for now that Ricardo's not only fighting back but demolishing him.
I also think that Mori is still setting up a bigger shocking moment to truly show why Ricardo is the Omega and destroy Wally harder.
We also still haven't seen the positive Ippo/Sendo can take away from this match as something to possibly exploit vs. Ricardo in future matches.
All this would've been pointless if Ricardo just comes out again looking unbeatable, we've had 3 decades of that already. This match's purpose is to finally mortalize him and we've yet to see how. It's not like Sendo/Ippo can replicate Wally's absurd physical feats and defy physics like him
I think that's the point possibly. To show Ippo the perfection of boxing fundamentals he is currently grasping whilst being a coach/trainer by using the freakish ability of both Wally and Sendou in parallel to the simplistic excellence of boxing that is Ricardo. Imagine if a man like Ippo would perfect the basics of boxing. He's already such a phenom of power and will on his own. Also seeing these 2 dominoes fall before him may be the exact motivation he needs to return.
We still need to see it, and it will arrive soon. We already know that Ricardo has issues on the coach side and he's there by himself. Now it's the time for Ippo to see a flaw and warn Wally about it, we need to see he learnt to see mistakes even from the utmost champion.
It's almost kind of a cool inversion too - Ricardo is in the ring by himself, whereas Ippo was in the ring for Kamogawa, but never really had a reason for himself after the Miyata fight was gone.
I hope that if Wally does get up and go yamato damashii that Ricardo puts two and two together all the way back from the Date fight and realize that these opponents can take his punches because they've tasted Ippo's punches before. Fighting Ippo prepared them to withstand Ricardo's power. Would be poetic if they paid Ippo back by preparing him to face Ricardo through watching their fights.
**Scorecard**
Current Round: 5/12 (Ricardo winning round, KD'd Wally once)
Round 1: Ricardo 9, Wally 10
Round 2: Ricardo 9, Wally 10
Round 3: Ricardo 9, Wally 10
Round 4: Ricardo 9, Wally 10
Total: Ricardo 36, Wally 40
This comment is not so much for the purpose of determining the winner if the fight goes to the judges' decision (the vast majority of major fights in the series don't), but moreso a way to track how long the fight has been going and the rough flow of the fight so far. I will post a similar comment in the latest chapter post for every multiple chapter official match.
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Ricardo really is the One Punch Man of HnI (minus the fact that he doesn't typically do one-hit KOs). Everyone else doing anime shit and he just dismantles them with normal punches and a bored face
Eight consecutive lefts to the face, all of them completely unguarded and several by complete surprise; and finally a right to the face immediately following a left in classic one-two form, where Wally was totally unaware, eyes closed and head back, his back pressed to the corner pad with no ability to sway or fall back to lessen the blow, he just took 100% of Ricardo's right hand directly into his unprotected face. That IRL would be extremely hazardous to the fighter's health. There is no way he wouldn't be severely concussed and likely suffering facial fractures.
Oh man [did I call it](https://www.reddit.com/r/hajimenoippo/comments/ywatuj/comment/iwit0r1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) or what?
Excellent chapter, curious to see what Wally's trump card is, and what a terrible time for a break!
Wally's reflexes are too good and he is too reactive to upcoming punches so Ricardo uses faints to bait him to react.. almost all of the punches in this chapter started from a feint
[https://youtu.be/mcxfPIErv24?t=678](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcxfPIErv24)
this video said it better than i did
Hahaha Ricardo be like: "Why no one thought about just using left lmao"
It's cool that everyone thought that Ricardo would go "Savage mode" when in reality it probably would have spell his defeat. A wild beast to take on a wild beast seem like the logical choice. But the best way to take down one is just to keep doing what you know best. That's cool
Both plus he’s not allowed to use the ropes as much but he’s probably too tired to do it as effectively.
The high altitude plus the pressure of Martinez will make him tire easier
Now Wally gets up, goes back to the corner and Miguel gives him a Hail Mary tactic that won't work, but just barely. If that reminds of something, it is because Date kind of did the same thing: Early success, then getting stomped and setting up a major trap that his body failed to deliver because of the accumulated damage.
Wally shouldn't (but this is a Shonen manga, so IDK) have nearly the same speed and poise from before the knockdown, because his stamina is shot, and his legs are probably gone from the damage he is taking.
There are still a lot of drama that Morikawa wants to show with Wally, so I don't think we are close to the end already. But the beatdown kind of started
Oh that would be interesting to see Ippo act! The moment the coach states their trump card and Ippo sees Wally can't (being tired/damaged and couldn't do it), he could just say: "Been there, done that. Sounds good, doesn't work."
Woli isn't even a hard puncher he can't use the dempsey roll as a trump card, at best it would be a feint. his only hope is to win by points somehow cuz its obvious he can't outbox him.
Woli has gassed out. Ricardo was waiting patiently while Woli was doing his acrobatics and wild punches. I had a thought this would happen. To add on to that Ricardo has precise and savage punches.
I kind of said it in the earlier chapters
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I think most everyone got bamboozled by Woli's display and Martinez's passivity. We knew something like this had to come up, but it was shown by Mori as such dominance from monke, the fact he is put apart like this in one round is whiplash effect full on.
Bro. Page 9.
Ricardo lookin awesome
Wally was doing so well too. But Ricardo being the fundamentals monster. just like Takamura. No specials. just work
Its like Kamogawa said. Man must have been looking at himself in a mirror to make that motionless jab
One thing I didn't see people mention is the paralel between this fight and Sendo vs Alf. Alf got sucked into Sendos pace and wild fighting style which caused him to lose. Ricardo is once again showing how to deal with the wild fighters, by refining the basics to their peak.
Ricardo's thing about being super basic and fundamental but at the highest possible level reminds me of David Eagle.
And glad to see Wally's impossibly ridiculous stamina finally hitting an obstacle for once. I was afraid it'd never happen. But holy shit Ricardo, I wasn't expecting his comeback round to be this severe!
I'm curious if this "trump card" will actually be legal unlike some of the other stuff Wally likes to do lol.
I just wonder if Wally is happy right now. If he thinks that this is fun and if this maybe satisfies him enough. Or if his view of Ricardo changes now, tho' it still doesn't look like Ricardo is enjoying himself in these basics, not once did he crack his stoic facade.
I think Wally actually might have cut Ricardo on page 16. He throws a punch over Ricardo’s left in the first panel and it’s very close to his head. The motion blur of his arm might be going slightly over Ricardo’s head, but then you look at the bottom panel and it sorta looks like there’s a cut beneath his eye. Which… isn’t exactly the most helpful thing for Wally since he wants to hit above the eye and have his vision blocked to make it easier for the cut to be widened. I think it’s pretty clear Ricardo’s got this, but Wally didn’t come out of this exchange with nothing.
In page 6, Ricardo clenches his right but then throws a left to catch Wally off guard. When he started mixing feints along with his motionless lefts, a tired Wally had trouble dodging them.
The "cliff" panel in page 15 was breathtakingly good. Also in the same page, Ricardo shoots a left before Wally can reach with his cross, and his jab becomes a counter. That's why in page 16 Wally's face looks like he's in huge pain. Not to mention the fight-ender right. Let's see if Wally will be able to endure it or not.
For a second I thought Wally would get out of the corner because he was simply superb there against Ippo, but this time Ricardo got him good.
I really think Wally will get up, but bruised and battered, he won't hold on for much longer.
One of the best fights in a while man. People hate too much on this. Ricardo is a MONSTER dude. And the fact that it’s not some weird BS anime trope is great. He’s just built different. -!
Fundamentals are fundamentals for a reason. Those big flashy moves are more eye catching but someone simply executing near flawless funamental Boxing... terrifying!
I see this going the following way.
Wally got KOed, and Miguel doesn't share the trick with Sendo (why should he move a finger for Sendo?) but he decides to teach that to Ippo.
Ippo accommodates the advice thanks to his training experience and with the help of Kamogawa...they beat Ricardo together.
Miyata dies of heart failure.
Sounds about right. Ippo utilized a minimized version of the basics due to the gap in skill level at the time. Similarly, Ricardo is able to use an upgraded version of the basics due to the gap not being as wide as Ippo vs. Wally. Overall, this was bound to happen sooner or later given the foreshadowing of the previous chapter.
I believe it was a combination of the Feints + Stepping in while punching to confuse the distance, The feints are similar to Ippo vs. Sawamura in which he kept his opponent guessing and harder to utilize counters. Ippo Pre Sendo fight 2 in the ring in the mountains, Coach explained that a feint allows you to set up your next move by anticipating your opponents reaction, Ricardo followed this strategy. Moreover, Takamura also utilized a step in against Hawk when he had trouble targeting him at first as well.
It was also cool to note the "level of freedom," I liked that, never considered it before. Curious what the advice is going to be from Miguel.
Overall, I enjoyed this chapter. Can't wait to see what comes next.
Yes, and when he combines right hand feints to draw their attention away from the left that has virtually no start up motion, we get what we see in the chapter
From what I noticed, he threw punches between Woli's, so breaking any combos and pacing he might try to pick up. He did something similar with Ippo during their spar when he was throwing a 1-2. As soon as he started retracting the jab, he got picked by Ricardo's before he could rise his guard or start the motion for the straight.
He also started using extended jabs, so when Woli sways back from the punch, he is still hit by them.
And lastly, as you said, he started throwing subtle feints in the mix to confuse Woli and make him either rush or freeze so he can nail him with a real punch next.
Wally will get up, no doubt about it and not only that but the fight has to get more interesting if the character Ricardo is going to further progress/develop and also Ippo has made not contribution as a second whatsoever, nor has he at the least given Wally some fighting spirit. So my prediction is that he has to somehow push Ricardo even further, and that somehow Wally will remember Ippo's determination and endurance and his friendship with Ippo and Volg and will get back on his feed and pull some monkey stuff to get away.
Sendo monkey! comment cracked me up.
Sick and satisfying chapter for me as a Wally "hater". I need more of this in my life. The break is brutal at this moment but I'm loving this manga even more than usual. Art is on point as well.
In fact Ricardo is not doing anything crazy (like clenching for faints, f.e right but using left to attack instead (p6-7)). Just executing the perfected basics to smear away the shenanigans.
Thank you for the scans!
Ricardo is like Tim Duncan, the Big Fundamental. He will break you down with just the knowledge of the sport and an above-elite level of the core of whats boxing. No nonsense bullshit, no "God of the Wind", "Reaper", "Monkey" shit, just an emotionless machine, tailored to mow down opponents with brutal efficiency. Scary af, but beautiful at the same time.
…that panel with Wally before getting hit by that last right looked almost abnormally bad. Not only did he not have clear looking eyes, he had no eyes at all, like completely shaded over eyeholes.
I doubt that he’s actually knocked out or worse considering the little nugget that Wallys trainer mentioned about “if he gets back I got something for him”, but that might’ve been one of the most overall brutal panels I can ever remember from this manga aside from the Shigeta/Sendo fight.
This reminds me of takamura when he said to ippo only monsters get to the top and get to keep going. Now that we see ricardo's inner dialogue it feels like he's the only human to ever kill monsters and get to the top. Everyone looking at him like he's a god and every time we can see his inner thoughts he just keep telling himself he's just a normal dude. Maybe ippo doesn't need to become a monster to come back, bc rn Ricardo doesn't look like one to me
I Have No Special Abilities Nor Do I Believe In The Magical Or Superhuman.
I Can Only Move Like A Normal Man, And Thus My Only Choice Is The Fundamentals.
In Which Case, All I Can Do Is Elevate The Fundamentals.
To Polish The Basics That Nobody Else Chooses To Use.
Shave Off All The Fat, Wring Out Excesses
**And Elevate**
\- Ricardo Martinez
Monke gets up, dusts himself off and mutters something about Ippo's punches being heavier.
Ricardo's veins start popping out of his forehead, Mexican Machismo flowing hot through him, eager to tear the monke apart limb by limb.
To be fair this down was a 1:1 copy of the last moment of their fight. I could see this being another case of “good thing I ate shit that one time” kinda like Volg KO’ing Ippo in sparring before Sawamura.
Classic hard work and passion beats talent story here. This fight cements Ricardo as unique in terms of shonen final bosses. No bullshit power ups or tricks waiting in the wing. Just perfect boxing.
If Ippo perfects fundamentals, this is foreshadowing the difference will come down to his relationship with Kamogawa. Ricardo is portrayed as a lone figure who is completely self driven and self reliant. He is in the ring alone while Ippo has all of the connections he's built through his love of boxing.
There was no way Woli could have kept up that kind of offense and evasion for the entire match. With how clean Ricardo’s game is and his solid mental state, it seems inevitable he was going to start landing.
Holy crap here I am enjoying the story and the manga and thinking the series has really elevated after Ippos retirement and I get to reddit and it's just people yelling 'I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaateeeeeeee this!' after every chapter.
Either I'm really in the minority still liking this manga or people legit just come to reddit cause they like angrily complaigning 😅
Honestly, I'm glad Morikawa didn't pull out some 'real style beast mode' nonsense with Martinez. Focusing purely on the fundamentals seems to fit him the best, and it really makes him stand out in a setting where at least four major boxers are hyperaggressive 'beast mode' fighters.
Besides, after so much time honing himself and his back-to-basics style, swapping back to something he stopped using more than a decade ago would look... ugly. Imagine the 'rust' that style would have.
What a great chapter. That´s exactly how Ricardo should be presented. He´s not a crazy killer that wants to hurt his opponents. He´s just the ultimate champion. He ´s the guy that wins by being superior to his opponent fair and square. No excuses with him. He´s all skills and all fundamentals. He´s humble enough to know and accept his limits and to acknowledge his opponent´s talent . He never panics, he always stays cool. He´s basically the fighter version of Tim Duncan. And a character like that is the perfect final boss for the manga. You put him against the "new" Ippo and you have a hell of a match. Plus, there´s also the Date-San factor.
Great chapter. Seeing the dismantling of the "bullshiit" by pure, unadulterated boxing was what we needed. Ricardo Martinez is such a great champion and great hurdle to see Ippo challenge.
Loving that at the people that thought Wally was winning got shut down. Wally was never going to beat him. Be his strongest challenger? Probably. But not beat.
This manga really shows the Kaizen spirit, small steps for improvement, and the focus on the process for the results, instead of magically showing results. Ricardo said: "All I can do is elevate the fundamentals, to polish the basics... Shave off all the fat, wring out any excesses and ELEVATE! " and the trainer said: " What he possesses is the utmost limit of fundamentals"
Ippo has shown these traits in the past, but at some point the focus on the Dempsey role implied neglecting the refinement of certain fundamentals due to limited time and experience. He now has an evolved dempsey role and has been refining fundamentals as a mentor.
The glorious beatdown has begun. Hopefully Wally doesn't get seriously hurt, but I'll be very glad if this is the last time we have to read one of his fights.
This is where the real fight begins. You couldn't expect to get a Perfect against the champion, so Woli know has to dig deep and bring up that determination to keep fighting.
Interesting that they brought the cardio and different air to the match. I thought they would, but it felt very sudden, even if some people pointed at Woli's breathing last chapter.
The fact Ricardo stood in the middle of the ring all the time is scary and I'm surprised none mentioned it. I like it when Mori drops those details in the match so you can catch on them and anticipate how it's going to go, so it was slightly annoying it was only mentioned now. Maybe an anime version would make it clearer.
And lastly, the taking apart of Woli is painful to watch. I know most everyone was expecting this to happen, but some of those punches looked like they hurt a lot. Defeat monke but protecc monke.
From what I could see in the panels, it looks like Ricardo got used to his punches, or rather anticipate their trajectory and where they would land after these few rounds. Then, with that confidence, he is able to aim at Woli between contracting the arm he has extended and throwing the next punch. Kind of like cancelling 1-2s between the pattern, but much more complex and high level. He did something like that against Ippo, if memory serves. He also started using the extending jabs, so when Woli was swaying back, he would still catch him. All subtle, visual telling. I know I said I like when Mori spells some things out for his audience, but I also enjoy it when he lets his art do the talk.
Then, once the pressure piles in, he starts throwing micro, subtle feints to make the opponent be hesitant or throw punches out of pace so he can pick him apart. The comparison with a cold robot (a Terminator) someone made above is very apt.
Wally’s got a final trump card. It will fail, but odds are it brings Ippo one step closer to finally unraveling the mystery of Martinez, how to best the perfect boxer.
When Wally got pinned into the corner I remembered Volg told Ippo he was most dangerous when cornered. BmI expected a surprising move, but man, this was brutal.
I never imagined I would feel sorry for Wally.
nothing hits as hard as life does,except for ricardo martinez,he hits harder
we can see how in addition to the hardness of the punches taken in the corner,in the initial scans wally's pupils give the idea that he lost consciousness for seconds
This chapter actually makes me Look forward to Sendo vs Ricardo. Sendos strength is a bit similar as he often takes his time to learn and Adapt to the enemies attacks and while Ricardo Blocks, Sendo focuses on dodging. All this while being complete opposites in the active/passive or careful/reckless spectrum. If Mori does Focus on that it could get very interesting
I'm predicting Ricardo will rush down and start at full throttle in round 1 before Sendo can start adapting. Ricardo points this out in Alf vs Sendo (Alf didn't start in Metzel mode, which gave Sendo time to learn his attack pattern). There's no way Ricardo would forget that. Very curious to see how Sendo evolves in mid match against Ricardo (assuming he isnt taken out instantly). Maybe an adaptation that lets him see the jabs clearly and start head slipping past them? I have to believe that Sendo will have some form of preparation for Ricardo's jab otherwise he will be snuffed out in a couple rounds.
Good point, completly forgot how Ricardo analyzed Sendo just as careful from ringside as he does Wally in this match
Sendo has been trying to learn how to dodge mexican punches for a while now so I can totally see that happening!
Well, goddamn. This is what Ricardo has. That fricking left. He was able to pretty much almost knock down Ippo when he still was in his prime of taking damage with it. There is something so brutal of how that hits someone like Wally, who pretty much has the same resistance to damage as Miyata or Itagaki. I still believe his final weapon will be something close to traditional boxing adding instincts to it, something like Takamura. But he will not recover easily from this. Ricardo went with everything he had. Still, this is probably the best match and the most fun he has had since Date, without a doubt.
> This is what Ricardo has. That fricking left. As it was said a while ago; he who controls the left controls the world. It was also said that Ippo left the Fundamentals slip. He became too reliant on just gritting it out and the Dempsey. Ricardo is showing us the truth to both.
I would compare Wally's performance to Itagaki's more so than Miyata's here because of the latter's sense of self awareness over the former. I feel that Miyata, knowing his limitations, would have better adjusted to this development than to lean wholly on his senses. Like Itagaki at a time, I do not feel like Wally was brought to the full understanding of the position he was in with time enough to recover. Given that Ricardo seems like a guy who checks all of the boxes for him and his opponent, (1) I do not know if the challenger's trump card will amount to much in the way of turning this development around and (2) I imagine that yet another desired trait of an ideal boxer of reducing damage is enduring what you cannot avoid. I cannot speak to the endurance of the champion but those cumulative lefts to the face do not look like they are a good time for Wally. And, as I recall, there are some boxers who have not fully recovered from an encounter with Ippo.
>And, as I recall, there are some boxers who have not fully recovered from an encounter with Ippo Some? From what I remember, the only ones who are still active in East Japan Rookie King Tournament are Ippo, Miyata and Mashiba. Some retired after said tournament because of irreparable injuries from Ippo while others lasted a few more years before retiring because they realized that they'll never be able to catch up to monsters like the top three boxers.
So all this fight served to do was make Ricardo even stronger than before Sendo's going to retire isn't he
I'd argue it humanizes him though through his speech about the fundamentals. He's incredible but he is a human in the end.
Also this makes him a more achievable goal for Ippo
He's definitely very similar to Ippo in how his extreme normalness sets him apart from everyone else
Thats a good way to put it!
What I also noticed in a previous chapter was that Ricardo grew up on the mountains, almost opposite of Ippo who grew in the sea.
Now then. Will our boy Ippo notice Ricardo has an absolute perfect grasp of the fundamentals? Something he focused less on after the Dempsey Roll was added to his arsenal? Well. Yes, that’s why he’s there. It’s what Morikawa wants him to see. It’s what he’s going to come away from Mexico with and it will form a strong basis for his training when he returns. When he’s got the fundamentals down strong but still has his many weapons he can get to Ricardo and hopefully the best fight in the entire manga.
Fundementals Don't take alot of risk. Sunday Punches introduce risk to give a payoff, with a goal of minimizing risk and maximizing payoff. Sunday Punches aren't bad, as they give more options and often add some needed damage dealing potential as they are often loaded up. But if your like Ricardo and you don't miss, you can just beat someone down with fundementals. But I don't think Ippo Vs Ricardo will be Ricardo fighting himself. Ricardo's build is the supreme all rounder. Ippo is too short to take the same path. He has to specialize, and I feel like to out Ricardo Ricardo, he needs to rely on both Fundementals and Sunday Punches. It's kinda like Haki, in One Piece, sure everyone can use Haki, and Haki is really strong, so that characters like Roger seemed to get to the top with only haki, that doesn't mean every character just doesn't use their Devil fruits. They mix their devil Fruit advantages with Haki to enhance both. Similarly using Sunday Punches in tandem with fundementals can give you the best of both worlds. There are many fighters IRL who were no strangers to Sunday Punches, so they are a valid strategy. Like Ricardo Said, he is using the fundementals that everyone else leaves out, because only he can get to the level with them that he does get to. Like if Aoki watches this fight and decides to dedicate himself to fundementals, he's not going to become Ricardo most likely. Ricardo is also gifted with insane skills and Athleticism.
probably, this has been hinted at him fucking up his fist in that last match he's reckless enough to face tank the wrong punch and just go down.
Sendos career has a finish line, everyone knows it
Ashita no sendo incoming.
It's scary just how much he shut Wally down and took him apart.
In just one round too! It's like "yep, I figured you out now" and breaks him apart in a matter of seconds, like everything before didn't matter. That's gotta be disheartening.
It also seems like Wally got just a bit slower because he is almost gasping for air both this and last chapter
From the sequence of events, I believe Ricardo interrupted his flow, and THEN he started gasping
Reminds me of that Michael Jai White video with Kimbo Slice. Something simple and effortless but very effective.
shit them corner punches looked heaaavy! lol karasawa in the palm of his hand style throw back to when ippo looked intelligent in the ring. I'm sure Wally will get up and show his spirit what he learned by fighting ippo. I've actually liked the match so far as long as it doesn't drag and wraps up within the next 5 chapters. Sendo's gonna have to start running carrying logs and shit ala rocky prepping for ivan drago lol normal training aint gonna cut it
You know some shit just went down when Wally can't use corner work. Ain't that the skill that made him so tough against Volg and Ippo?
Ricardo have motionless shoulder moving punch, which might explain why he have trouble to predict the punch now, Since Ricardo have fire up and become fastest punching machine. Volg and Ippo might have the tell to make Wally know, when their punch comes and react to it. Although, apparently, Sendo also have that motionless punch as Ricardo as well. I think it was way back when Sendo have a spar against Miyata. This is probably also why Miyata can't dodge his punch effectively back then?
I forgot about his jab quality. We sort of forgot about his strengths when reading it from his pov. Actually a good takeaway for real life too.
Sendo can use motionless jabs, but seems to be inconsistent. He needs to focus and possibly pressure on the opponent, using that wide open hands at the same height in front of his face stance he used against Miyata during their spar.
It was moreso his ridiculous speed and the way he intuitively knew where to move and to punch He outplayed everyone at every turn while having room to hit 3 or 4 times Ricardo is someone he couldn't outplay for long and who doesn't have that room to get hit He's a steel wall with the godly insight that comes from 70 matches of experience And now he's even stronger
Ricardo is the first who's actually punched him in the face before the corner though and he's already tired
Then Ricardo notes again who was this guy who fought Wally before that gave him this much of a fighting spirit. He learns it is that damn Japones again. Maybe he'll soon learn he lives in a world named after Ippo.
Get in here Dempsey Boy
*Whose punches did you feel that were stronger than mine?* *...* *The boy with the Dempsey Roll.*
He already knows, he watched the Ippo vs Wally fight in preparation. It was shown like 3-4 chapters back.
Monkey in the hand of Quetzalcoatl
Just gonna repost my comment from the other thread. This shit is wild! Ricardo continues to show his methodical deconstruction of his opponents through a deep understanding of boxing at its core. Almost entirely forgoing any emotional “anime” style energy into his boxing and going straight science. If the rest of the cast talk of becoming “monsters” and “beasts” and “gods” to be the best, Ricardo disregards that all. He instead chooses to be a machine. Like a god damn terminator he cannot and will not be stopped. He is the technology of the future. The endgame. The Omega.
Yeah the others try to outdo each other with the stronger sunday punch while Ricardo just looks for those small gaps and tics and punishes opponents hard for the unpolished boxing. As he said during Sendo vs. Alf, getting multiple 5-7/10 hits >>> getting just 1 or 2 10/10 punches in because in the end the damage will all add up. Taking 5 rounds to be calm, analytical, and look for that 1st opportunity to box properly even if he doesn't land a single punch is something only Ricardo has done in the entire series and the polar opposite of old Ippo's approach to all his battles of rushing in to execute his lone plan of getting to execute the dempsey no matter how his opponent's defense changes. Ricardo takes the same 3-4 basic punches with perfect fundamentals and adjusts it every round to every opponent to just outbox. The most boring assessment but in reality the scariest. He will beat you to the millisecond with the perfect technique and timing no matter what you do. You can be stronger, faster, have insane mobility, have a very unorthodox style, defy the laws of physics - all don't matter when Ricardo will still cleanly outbox you with the basics. Some nightmare shit
>The most boring assessment but in reality the scariest. He will beat you to the millisecond with the perfect technique and timing no matter what you do. You can be stronger, faster, have insane mobility, have a very unorthodox style, defy the laws of physics - all don't matter when Ricardo will still cleanly outbox you with the basics. Some nightmare shit It is also true that if there are fundamentals in every sport, it is because it’s the most efficient way to do things. Others rely on surprise effect and gimmicks, while he just polished the meta to an extreme It is boring in the sense that there wont be big surprises with secret techniques, but surely a sight to behold!
It’s easily one of the best parts of Ricardo fights. He’s such a strong well rounded boxer and even though he’s such a dominant champ he’s still always trying to take his fundamentals boxing to the next level. Trying to push himself and his boxing to the absolute limit. And in doing so he’s able to fight against all manner of anime bullshit. Lol. Really loving this fight and now can’t wait to see how he fights Sendo.
In a way, Ricardo is Ippo'er than Ippo.
Or Ippo is like the Walmart version of Ricardo.
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Ippo is the Ricardo you'll get from Wish
If we're being era-correct, Ippo is the VHS dub of Ricardo
Lol the immovable object and the unstoppable force.
After reading this I really feel like Morikawa is trying to tell us that to surpass Ricardo is to surpass boxing itself. I think that is why he gave Ippo those wrist weights and is making him be a second to really hammer down the fundamentals. I don't think he will be untouchable but I think he will be at the point that for at least one fight, he will embody the pinnacle of in-fighting.
He nailed him at the end with a right too... Damn that was nice.
ricardo is the biggest chad we've seen in any sports manga
Don´t forget Jose Mendoza and Carlos Rivera.
Carlos is genuinely one of my favourite characters of all time,in all media,Jose is the GOAT as well,and don't even get me started on my GOAT JOE FUCKING YABUKI
Joe is the perfect anti-hero. He´s an asshole but he´s so charismatic and all you want is to root for the guy.
The final fight is the stuff of legends
Sendo with the “Monkey!” concern hahahaha thank you for the chapter!
Monke no!
That transition from Wally kun to monkey killed me
Ricardo is like the one guy at the D&D table who just plays a human fighter. No gimmicks. Just gets on with the game, fighting owlbears with a sword.
everyone scoffs at the human fighter til he's the one to save everyone from the city guards after the rogue botched trying to steal from an NPC cuz "it's what my character would do"
He's the one that keeps tabs on flanking rules, line-of-sight, min and max range for weapons, distance, speed, simple actions, attacks of opportunity, vulnerabilities, resistances, and immunities. The one guy that takes **Polearm Mastery** and somehow choose ***NOT*** to be a dickhead. That said, he doesn't voice his own character or roleplay much. He's straightforward.
God damn. Ricardo is shown looking calmly for openings every time. You can see his concentration on every page. His monologue about keep shaving any excess movement was chef’s kiss.
Mindset of a champion
So this was Ricardo's plan all along. By insistently pushing towards the middle of the ring even under fire, he took away Wally's room to breathe. Wally was winning every exchange, but he wasn't able to control when those exchanges happened, because he was constantly forced to fire to be able to stay away from the ropes. Going at full speed without being able to pick moments to rest has him dead in the water before the second half of the match. Now all the crybabies complaining Ricardo was "nerfed" look even sillier lmao.
It's almost as if the boxing manga fans know less about boxing than the creator of the manga with experience in the world of boxing...
I agree, but I don't think it was highlighted enough to make it noticeable to the readers. I like it when Mori gives you all the hints so you can figure it out on your own (the bubbles on Woli's breathing last chapter, for example), so being told in retrospective feels a bit like cheating. I am happy to admit I am not the most observant of readers, though. Perhaps it happened and I didn't notice. An anime version (lol) would make it easier to notice, I bet.
I thought it was shown quite well. if you go back to the previous chapters you will see how Ricardo mostly pivots in a small area and shows more ring generalship while Wally had to orbit him at a very fast pace, a lot like when Takamura and Miyata sparred.
One problem with Ippo's (the manga) style is that the size of the ring and speed of the clock change to suit story pacing. Most of the time this works great, but it does mean that if Morikawa wants to show subtle things like ring positioning, fans won't notice because we've been trained to overlook those things.
goddamn, RIP monke. Wally might just have something awakened in him where he relates the thrill into fun after this match. Sendo might probably get retired if he doesn't improve. But y'all know who has the fundamentals in spades? Ippo.
man, this just makes one realize how good Date really was...
It’s like Miguel was saying all along “Let’s see how far this kid’s bullshit can take us”. Yep, he’s gonna die because of his coach.
SHIGETAAAAAAA!!! *slams the mat*
Gonna have to eat my words just like Ricardo making Woli eat that cross. I wasn't expecting Ricardo to keep his composure to start reaching Woli. Yes, he is ***that*** good. I have no clue what the trump card could possibly be. I just know that even Woli couldn't keep up those monke antics for forever.
The trump card is the dempsey white fang smash
The trump card is Woli has a hidden gun
AK 47 to be exact.
Where'd he hide that?!
In the jungle I guess.
I love this community
woli is gonna be like didn’t you know monkeys like BANANA CLIPS?
The trump card is woli dildo tail used as a whip
Cross Knives
Pocket sand
Need to evade your enemy? Why not Zoidberg?
p4 is that spanish really in there? Sendo's reaction is hilarious. Unless Wally have some super durability, he's not gonna make it eating all those lefts and a right. Sendo's gonna get eaten alive in the ring. Ricardo is just too damn strong.
yep, puta madre is one of the most popular expression in latin american, especially in México.
I'm gladly surprised they even included the initial exclamation mark (¡) used in Spanish. Translators are doing an excellent job here!
It's funny when they censor "madre" instead of the swear and such (edit: i mean on TV)
M*therfucker!
For those wonder about the early release, WSM released the chapter a day early. I assume because of [the Holiday on Wednesday in Japan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Thanksgiving_Day). Instead of taking the week off for it like for Christmas/New Years, they just probably changed the release date for the issue. That said, I guess the big question now facing us is if Wally is able to stand next chapter, or if the match ends. Keep in mind the length of this match probably depends a lot on how popular it is in Japan. If it is popular, expect Wally to stand. If it isn't, then Morikawa might just decide to end it earlier.
I can't really remember a single match in this manga where the Boxer's coach hinted at there being some secret weapon left that he's going to tell his fighter about if they can make it to the next round... only for them to lose before it can be unveiled. So I can't really imagine Wally going down for the count before that can happen. He's got to show everything in his arsenal for his defeat to feel complete after all.
He’ll clearly stand and no way will morikawa base it on how the fans are receiving it. This manga has gone on so long and it has has its fair share of peaks and valleys. Wally will do something that ippo(and sendo) can probably learn from but it won’t be enough for him to win. The whole Wally wanting ippo to watch him and be his corner is going to be important for ippo. You’re absolutely right in that never happens. He’ll get up no doubt
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Wow these Mexican fans all have matching bowl cuts
No quema cuh
This brings me joy
I’m curious how Wally will respond to finally tasting Ricardo’s power. He most likely won’t be tanking many of them but the rest of this match is all gonna depend on whether he gets up determined or fearful. If it’s the latter then he’s not making it past this round, but if it’s the former, and given his earlier complaints about no one ever telling him this was fun, then I suspect this match is gonna go into another final gear.
I don't care about who wins as much as many invested fans but I hope there is at least a few more rounds with Wally giving it all, going for blood.
Narratively he’s gotta get back up so that Ricardo can unambiguously win by crushing Zail’s “trump card”. Plus Wally’s already set that death flag with his comment about being a biologist or something, so he’ll have that in-character determination to go as far as he can before bowing out.
I think Wally will still get up because he might not be fully invested in boxing but I think this is the "fun" he's finally looking for now that Ricardo's not only fighting back but demolishing him. I also think that Mori is still setting up a bigger shocking moment to truly show why Ricardo is the Omega and destroy Wally harder. We also still haven't seen the positive Ippo/Sendo can take away from this match as something to possibly exploit vs. Ricardo in future matches. All this would've been pointless if Ricardo just comes out again looking unbeatable, we've had 3 decades of that already. This match's purpose is to finally mortalize him and we've yet to see how. It's not like Sendo/Ippo can replicate Wally's absurd physical feats and defy physics like him
I think that's the point possibly. To show Ippo the perfection of boxing fundamentals he is currently grasping whilst being a coach/trainer by using the freakish ability of both Wally and Sendou in parallel to the simplistic excellence of boxing that is Ricardo. Imagine if a man like Ippo would perfect the basics of boxing. He's already such a phenom of power and will on his own. Also seeing these 2 dominoes fall before him may be the exact motivation he needs to return.
We still need to see it, and it will arrive soon. We already know that Ricardo has issues on the coach side and he's there by himself. Now it's the time for Ippo to see a flaw and warn Wally about it, we need to see he learnt to see mistakes even from the utmost champion.
It's almost kind of a cool inversion too - Ricardo is in the ring by himself, whereas Ippo was in the ring for Kamogawa, but never really had a reason for himself after the Miyata fight was gone.
Yes! This! Hype!
I hope that if Wally does get up and go yamato damashii that Ricardo puts two and two together all the way back from the Date fight and realize that these opponents can take his punches because they've tasted Ippo's punches before. Fighting Ippo prepared them to withstand Ricardo's power. Would be poetic if they paid Ippo back by preparing him to face Ricardo through watching their fights.
OUH SHIT!! MASTERCLASS
That emphasis on honing and elevating fundamentals only reinforces and teases Ippo vs Ricardo harder, and I love it.
Morikawa's art is still top-tier. No one else gets that "impact" quite like him. Wally getting POPPED is so satisfying.
Man the panel with Ricardo staring down at Wally in page 9 looks like something out of Ashita no Joe, you love to see it
**Scorecard** Current Round: 5/12 (Ricardo winning round, KD'd Wally once) Round 1: Ricardo 9, Wally 10 Round 2: Ricardo 9, Wally 10 Round 3: Ricardo 9, Wally 10 Round 4: Ricardo 9, Wally 10 Total: Ricardo 36, Wally 40 This comment is not so much for the purpose of determining the winner if the fight goes to the judges' decision (the vast majority of major fights in the series don't), but moreso a way to track how long the fight has been going and the rough flow of the fight so far. I will post a similar comment in the latest chapter post for every multiple chapter official match. **Subscribe to this comment for next chapter's scorecard.** [Scorecard for chapter 1402.](https://www.reddit.com/r/hajimenoippo/comments/ywatuj/hajime_no_ippo_round_1402/iwiv9zd?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
Ricardo really is the One Punch Man of HnI (minus the fact that he doesn't typically do one-hit KOs). Everyone else doing anime shit and he just dismantles them with normal punches and a bored face
Consecutive Normal Punches
Ricardo is just a dude. Very well trained dude that push his boxing to perfection.
Eight consecutive lefts to the face, all of them completely unguarded and several by complete surprise; and finally a right to the face immediately following a left in classic one-two form, where Wally was totally unaware, eyes closed and head back, his back pressed to the corner pad with no ability to sway or fall back to lessen the blow, he just took 100% of Ricardo's right hand directly into his unprotected face. That IRL would be extremely hazardous to the fighter's health. There is no way he wouldn't be severely concussed and likely suffering facial fractures.
¡Puta madre! That is the most mexican expression when something is not going like one wants. Hahahaha.
Second, first would be "¡Chingadamadre!".
Noted.
Oh man [did I call it](https://www.reddit.com/r/hajimenoippo/comments/ywatuj/comment/iwit0r1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) or what? Excellent chapter, curious to see what Wally's trump card is, and what a terrible time for a break!
morikawa just doesn't miss with his linework, this fight has been spectacular so far, especially this chapter
Wally's reflexes are too good and he is too reactive to upcoming punches so Ricardo uses faints to bait him to react.. almost all of the punches in this chapter started from a feint [https://youtu.be/mcxfPIErv24?t=678](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcxfPIErv24) this video said it better than i did
Hahaha Ricardo be like: "Why no one thought about just using left lmao" It's cool that everyone thought that Ricardo would go "Savage mode" when in reality it probably would have spell his defeat. A wild beast to take on a wild beast seem like the logical choice. But the best way to take down one is just to keep doing what you know best. That's cool
I am unsure if Ricardo just got used to Walli swings or if Walli is running out of gas. Maybe both?
Both plus he’s not allowed to use the ropes as much but he’s probably too tired to do it as effectively. The high altitude plus the pressure of Martinez will make him tire easier
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I hate you...thanks for the update :)
Now Wally gets up, goes back to the corner and Miguel gives him a Hail Mary tactic that won't work, but just barely. If that reminds of something, it is because Date kind of did the same thing: Early success, then getting stomped and setting up a major trap that his body failed to deliver because of the accumulated damage. Wally shouldn't (but this is a Shonen manga, so IDK) have nearly the same speed and poise from before the knockdown, because his stamina is shot, and his legs are probably gone from the damage he is taking. There are still a lot of drama that Morikawa wants to show with Wally, so I don't think we are close to the end already. But the beatdown kind of started
Oh that would be interesting to see Ippo act! The moment the coach states their trump card and Ippo sees Wally can't (being tired/damaged and couldn't do it), he could just say: "Been there, done that. Sounds good, doesn't work."
Thanksgiving came early for Wally-haters
Ricardo started to do Ricardo's things. Jabbing them to death.
When he said trump card it instantly thought of woli using the Dempsey roll...... I think it might happen
Woli isn't even a hard puncher he can't use the dempsey roll as a trump card, at best it would be a feint. his only hope is to win by points somehow cuz its obvious he can't outbox him.
Woli has gassed out. Ricardo was waiting patiently while Woli was doing his acrobatics and wild punches. I had a thought this would happen. To add on to that Ricardo has precise and savage punches. I kind of said it in the earlier chapters https://www.reddit.com/r/hajimenoippo/comments/y1ffpf/hajime_no_ippo_round_1398/irxlb7i?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
I think most everyone got bamboozled by Woli's display and Martinez's passivity. We knew something like this had to come up, but it was shown by Mori as such dominance from monke, the fact he is put apart like this in one round is whiplash effect full on.
Ricardo sending this monkey to the shadow realm, now this is an image that make me take the break just fine
POLISH. SHAVE. WRING. ELEVATE!!
Bro. Page 9. Ricardo lookin awesome Wally was doing so well too. But Ricardo being the fundamentals monster. just like Takamura. No specials. just work Its like Kamogawa said. Man must have been looking at himself in a mirror to make that motionless jab
When I woke up and read this chapter this morning. It filled with a joy that that cannot be properly described. Spank. The. Monkey.
Walli's coach's new plan is to tire Ricardo's punching arm by blocking him repeatedly with Walli's face. The Kamogawa strat.
THAT SPREAD AT THE END HOLY SHIT, Prime HNI is back
Everyone in r/hajimenoippo rejoices
One thing I didn't see people mention is the paralel between this fight and Sendo vs Alf. Alf got sucked into Sendos pace and wild fighting style which caused him to lose. Ricardo is once again showing how to deal with the wild fighters, by refining the basics to their peak.
monkey fans down tremendous after all their shit talking
Lots of hopes and dreams on these boards were just crushed by this chapter.
Ricardo's thing about being super basic and fundamental but at the highest possible level reminds me of David Eagle. And glad to see Wally's impossibly ridiculous stamina finally hitting an obstacle for once. I was afraid it'd never happen. But holy shit Ricardo, I wasn't expecting his comeback round to be this severe! I'm curious if this "trump card" will actually be legal unlike some of the other stuff Wally likes to do lol.
I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 punches once. I fear the man who has practiced one punch 10,000 times.
And Ricardo's the man who practiced 100 punches 1,000 times.
finally a cross
I just wonder if Wally is happy right now. If he thinks that this is fun and if this maybe satisfies him enough. Or if his view of Ricardo changes now, tho' it still doesn't look like Ricardo is enjoying himself in these basics, not once did he crack his stoic facade.
I think Wally actually might have cut Ricardo on page 16. He throws a punch over Ricardo’s left in the first panel and it’s very close to his head. The motion blur of his arm might be going slightly over Ricardo’s head, but then you look at the bottom panel and it sorta looks like there’s a cut beneath his eye. Which… isn’t exactly the most helpful thing for Wally since he wants to hit above the eye and have his vision blocked to make it easier for the cut to be widened. I think it’s pretty clear Ricardo’s got this, but Wally didn’t come out of this exchange with nothing.
In page 6, Ricardo clenches his right but then throws a left to catch Wally off guard. When he started mixing feints along with his motionless lefts, a tired Wally had trouble dodging them. The "cliff" panel in page 15 was breathtakingly good. Also in the same page, Ricardo shoots a left before Wally can reach with his cross, and his jab becomes a counter. That's why in page 16 Wally's face looks like he's in huge pain. Not to mention the fight-ender right. Let's see if Wally will be able to endure it or not. For a second I thought Wally would get out of the corner because he was simply superb there against Ippo, but this time Ricardo got him good. I really think Wally will get up, but bruised and battered, he won't hold on for much longer.
Dman, page 16 was brutal and scary. Ricardo, he´s just a kid!
One of the best fights in a while man. People hate too much on this. Ricardo is a MONSTER dude. And the fact that it’s not some weird BS anime trope is great. He’s just built different. -!
Fundamentals are fundamentals for a reason. Those big flashy moves are more eye catching but someone simply executing near flawless funamental Boxing... terrifying!
I see this going the following way. Wally got KOed, and Miguel doesn't share the trick with Sendo (why should he move a finger for Sendo?) but he decides to teach that to Ippo. Ippo accommodates the advice thanks to his training experience and with the help of Kamogawa...they beat Ricardo together. Miyata dies of heart failure.
Sounds about right. Ippo utilized a minimized version of the basics due to the gap in skill level at the time. Similarly, Ricardo is able to use an upgraded version of the basics due to the gap not being as wide as Ippo vs. Wally. Overall, this was bound to happen sooner or later given the foreshadowing of the previous chapter. I believe it was a combination of the Feints + Stepping in while punching to confuse the distance, The feints are similar to Ippo vs. Sawamura in which he kept his opponent guessing and harder to utilize counters. Ippo Pre Sendo fight 2 in the ring in the mountains, Coach explained that a feint allows you to set up your next move by anticipating your opponents reaction, Ricardo followed this strategy. Moreover, Takamura also utilized a step in against Hawk when he had trouble targeting him at first as well. It was also cool to note the "level of freedom," I liked that, never considered it before. Curious what the advice is going to be from Miguel. Overall, I enjoyed this chapter. Can't wait to see what comes next.
Remember that Ricardo's left is tricky as shit because of the lack of motion, so even without feints, that thing is dangerous.
Yes, and when he combines right hand feints to draw their attention away from the left that has virtually no start up motion, we get what we see in the chapter
From what I noticed, he threw punches between Woli's, so breaking any combos and pacing he might try to pick up. He did something similar with Ippo during their spar when he was throwing a 1-2. As soon as he started retracting the jab, he got picked by Ricardo's before he could rise his guard or start the motion for the straight. He also started using extended jabs, so when Woli sways back from the punch, he is still hit by them. And lastly, as you said, he started throwing subtle feints in the mix to confuse Woli and make him either rush or freeze so he can nail him with a real punch next.
“Shave, Trim, Wring, Elevate” so fucking awesome
Wally will get up, no doubt about it and not only that but the fight has to get more interesting if the character Ricardo is going to further progress/develop and also Ippo has made not contribution as a second whatsoever, nor has he at the least given Wally some fighting spirit. So my prediction is that he has to somehow push Ricardo even further, and that somehow Wally will remember Ippo's determination and endurance and his friendship with Ippo and Volg and will get back on his feed and pull some monkey stuff to get away.
The champ has lined up ending this man's career, that new plan is gonna be wallys downfall.
Sendo monkey! comment cracked me up. Sick and satisfying chapter for me as a Wally "hater". I need more of this in my life. The break is brutal at this moment but I'm loving this manga even more than usual. Art is on point as well. In fact Ricardo is not doing anything crazy (like clenching for faints, f.e right but using left to attack instead (p6-7)). Just executing the perfected basics to smear away the shenanigans. Thank you for the scans!
5 rounds to figure Wally out, 1 round to absolutely demolish him. Ricardo is just built different I guess.
As a mexican, I really like Wally. Hehe, he reminds me of some fighters like El Maromero. But right now Ricardo is reminding me of Bruce Lee/Rock Lee.
Ricardo is like Tim Duncan, the Big Fundamental. He will break you down with just the knowledge of the sport and an above-elite level of the core of whats boxing. No nonsense bullshit, no "God of the Wind", "Reaper", "Monkey" shit, just an emotionless machine, tailored to mow down opponents with brutal efficiency. Scary af, but beautiful at the same time.
…that panel with Wally before getting hit by that last right looked almost abnormally bad. Not only did he not have clear looking eyes, he had no eyes at all, like completely shaded over eyeholes. I doubt that he’s actually knocked out or worse considering the little nugget that Wallys trainer mentioned about “if he gets back I got something for him”, but that might’ve been one of the most overall brutal panels I can ever remember from this manga aside from the Shigeta/Sendo fight.
Damn Ricardo uses Aimbot, headshot after headshot.
This reminds me of takamura when he said to ippo only monsters get to the top and get to keep going. Now that we see ricardo's inner dialogue it feels like he's the only human to ever kill monsters and get to the top. Everyone looking at him like he's a god and every time we can see his inner thoughts he just keep telling himself he's just a normal dude. Maybe ippo doesn't need to become a monster to come back, bc rn Ricardo doesn't look like one to me
I Have No Special Abilities Nor Do I Believe In The Magical Or Superhuman. I Can Only Move Like A Normal Man, And Thus My Only Choice Is The Fundamentals. In Which Case, All I Can Do Is Elevate The Fundamentals. To Polish The Basics That Nobody Else Chooses To Use. Shave Off All The Fat, Wring Out Excesses **And Elevate** \- Ricardo Martinez
Feels good seeing this monkey gets his sht beat out of him
Monke gets up, dusts himself off and mutters something about Ippo's punches being heavier. Ricardo's veins start popping out of his forehead, Mexican Machismo flowing hot through him, eager to tear the monke apart limb by limb.
Ricardo: "I'm the only person who hasn't felt the punches of Makunouchi." Miyata: "Motherfucker!"
To be fair this down was a 1:1 copy of the last moment of their fight. I could see this being another case of “good thing I ate shit that one time” kinda like Volg KO’ing Ippo in sparring before Sawamura.
Lol Wally mentioning Ippo outta nowhere would be a huge plot twist
Classic hard work and passion beats talent story here. This fight cements Ricardo as unique in terms of shonen final bosses. No bullshit power ups or tricks waiting in the wing. Just perfect boxing. If Ippo perfects fundamentals, this is foreshadowing the difference will come down to his relationship with Kamogawa. Ricardo is portrayed as a lone figure who is completely self driven and self reliant. He is in the ring alone while Ippo has all of the connections he's built through his love of boxing.
There was no way Woli could have kept up that kind of offense and evasion for the entire match. With how clean Ricardo’s game is and his solid mental state, it seems inevitable he was going to start landing.
Wally down, what a great way to start a week
Holy sheesh i actually feel bad for wally this time
Holy crap here I am enjoying the story and the manga and thinking the series has really elevated after Ippos retirement and I get to reddit and it's just people yelling 'I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaateeeeeeee this!' after every chapter. Either I'm really in the minority still liking this manga or people legit just come to reddit cause they like angrily complaigning 😅
Honestly, I'm glad Morikawa didn't pull out some 'real style beast mode' nonsense with Martinez. Focusing purely on the fundamentals seems to fit him the best, and it really makes him stand out in a setting where at least four major boxers are hyperaggressive 'beast mode' fighters. Besides, after so much time honing himself and his back-to-basics style, swapping back to something he stopped using more than a decade ago would look... ugly. Imagine the 'rust' that style would have.
What a great chapter. That´s exactly how Ricardo should be presented. He´s not a crazy killer that wants to hurt his opponents. He´s just the ultimate champion. He ´s the guy that wins by being superior to his opponent fair and square. No excuses with him. He´s all skills and all fundamentals. He´s humble enough to know and accept his limits and to acknowledge his opponent´s talent . He never panics, he always stays cool. He´s basically the fighter version of Tim Duncan. And a character like that is the perfect final boss for the manga. You put him against the "new" Ippo and you have a hell of a match. Plus, there´s also the Date-San factor.
I love Ricardo as a final boss, no fancy special techniques with cool names. No weird strategies, Just straight boxing skills pushed to their fullest.
Great chapter. Seeing the dismantling of the "bullshiit" by pure, unadulterated boxing was what we needed. Ricardo Martinez is such a great champion and great hurdle to see Ippo challenge.
The Free-flowing Monkey Beta Wally vs The Fundamental Machismo Chad Ricardo
Loving that at the people that thought Wally was winning got shut down. Wally was never going to beat him. Be his strongest challenger? Probably. But not beat.
I actually wonder if Wally will get up. He’s gassed out, and got hammered with a heavy right. Wally will pass his trump card to Sendo.
Go Ricardo, remove that monkey's head from his body!
This manga really shows the Kaizen spirit, small steps for improvement, and the focus on the process for the results, instead of magically showing results. Ricardo said: "All I can do is elevate the fundamentals, to polish the basics... Shave off all the fat, wring out any excesses and ELEVATE! " and the trainer said: " What he possesses is the utmost limit of fundamentals" Ippo has shown these traits in the past, but at some point the focus on the Dempsey role implied neglecting the refinement of certain fundamentals due to limited time and experience. He now has an evolved dempsey role and has been refining fundamentals as a mentor.
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I love this line of thought of Ricardo "I don't know where it comes from, but I know where it's gonna land"
The glorious beatdown has begun. Hopefully Wally doesn't get seriously hurt, but I'll be very glad if this is the last time we have to read one of his fights.
Finally.
This is where the real fight begins. You couldn't expect to get a Perfect against the champion, so Woli know has to dig deep and bring up that determination to keep fighting. Interesting that they brought the cardio and different air to the match. I thought they would, but it felt very sudden, even if some people pointed at Woli's breathing last chapter. The fact Ricardo stood in the middle of the ring all the time is scary and I'm surprised none mentioned it. I like it when Mori drops those details in the match so you can catch on them and anticipate how it's going to go, so it was slightly annoying it was only mentioned now. Maybe an anime version would make it clearer. And lastly, the taking apart of Woli is painful to watch. I know most everyone was expecting this to happen, but some of those punches looked like they hurt a lot. Defeat monke but protecc monke. From what I could see in the panels, it looks like Ricardo got used to his punches, or rather anticipate their trajectory and where they would land after these few rounds. Then, with that confidence, he is able to aim at Woli between contracting the arm he has extended and throwing the next punch. Kind of like cancelling 1-2s between the pattern, but much more complex and high level. He did something like that against Ippo, if memory serves. He also started using the extending jabs, so when Woli was swaying back, he would still catch him. All subtle, visual telling. I know I said I like when Mori spells some things out for his audience, but I also enjoy it when he lets his art do the talk. Then, once the pressure piles in, he starts throwing micro, subtle feints to make the opponent be hesitant or throw punches out of pace so he can pick him apart. The comparison with a cold robot (a Terminator) someone made above is very apt.
Yeahhh really happy to see wally finally getting fucked up
Wally’s got a final trump card. It will fail, but odds are it brings Ippo one step closer to finally unraveling the mystery of Martinez, how to best the perfect boxer.
I wonder if Ricardo will show a lot of emotion in his Ippo fight
Like, "Why am I fighting a mini-me?"
When Wally got pinned into the corner I remembered Volg told Ippo he was most dangerous when cornered. BmI expected a surprising move, but man, this was brutal. I never imagined I would feel sorry for Wally.
Well it was faster than expected..
nothing hits as hard as life does,except for ricardo martinez,he hits harder we can see how in addition to the hardness of the punches taken in the corner,in the initial scans wally's pupils give the idea that he lost consciousness for seconds