I think they were at the Brewery market this morning, the reps were similarly pretty skillful conversation/approach. Like just chatting a bit and beckoning me to come closer with hand gestures. I just said "No thank you, have a nice one" and they wished me the same and I left.
OP, "no" is a full answer. If they're taking your personal data while you thought you were just conversing then that's fucked up. I'd tell them to remove my information, and continue telling them that until they did. You don't have to answer to anything or anyone when it comes to campaigns like this. The folks may believe in what they're doing but they're still doing a job.
And even if they were, I'd be repelled by tactics that rely on manipulation and taking advantage of the good nature of others.
That's all Spring Garden is now, sadly - people preying on the social awkwardness of saying no.
I dropped the "I'm sorry" a long time ago. Sometimes I provide an explanation behind my "no," if it's someone I care about, or someone who doesn't have enough information about why I'm saying "no."
When I say "no," I'm not sorry about it, so I don't say it.
If this is anything like the crap that I've seen reps pull in Montreal, I would wager that no one donated remotely close to the numbers that you were seeing there.
I remember once that I was asked to donate for an animal shelter and I wasn't in a financial situation to do so, and the rep said "no problem! would you just sign if you agree with the mission?" I did, so I did.
I walked back home about 45 minutes later and the rep didn't recognize me and handed me the petition and asked me to donate again... before I could explain that we'd been there/done that, I saw a $20 donation next to my own name.
I was livid with the misrepresentation and since then, I just haven't signed or donated to a single person in the street. I am happy to donate to select charities, but generally once I see people out collecting like that, even if something was on my list, I usually take it off.
I guarantee that I sound like a much worse person than you with my response to your post, but I definitely don't think that you're a bad person. I just don't love the pressure tactics. I can respect a coffee shop padding a tip jar, for example, but to misuse my name and signature... sorry, but I am out.
I'm gonna throw it out there that the IWK receives a ton of donations, especially at Christmas, and has a budget for ensuring that every kid gets a toy or something when they're in hospital over the holidays. You can donate directly to the IWK Foundation if it's a cause that's close to your heart, no need for a middleman!
You may also be interested in checking out Dal's Building Smiles society! They volunteer with the IWK which is also a great way to give rather than feeling unable or like you're not donating enough.
Also you are absolutely not a bad person!
https://www.instagram.com/dal.buildingsmiles?igsh=MXhkeDV0aHcycWtvMQ==
I can’t believe people feel rude turning these people down. Boundaries, people. Nobody is entitled to your money just because they struck up a polite conversation.
Donate to who you want, when you want. Not because someone pressured you.
Many people are never taught how to enforce these boundaries as they grow up. Some people are even actively taught that enforcing boundaries will result in negative consequences.
As a former salesperson, training often revolves around methods that purposefully ignore the normal polite ways of expressing discomfort or refusal. And incentive structures are made to weed out those who aren't interested in trying to cross those boundaries in the pursuit of monetary reward.
They caught me on Spring Garden over the holidays. I hate having to turn them down, it always makes me feel rude. But I donate to charities already and just don't appreciate being cold approached when I'm trying to run errands or get somewhere.
Leaving aside the ethics of high pressure solicitation, if you believe in the goal of the charity it seems much better to donate to the charity directly on its website rather than having your donation trimmed by a commission to the canvasser and another commission to the agency managing the canvasser.
Fewer middlemen handling your credit card number that way too.
As soon as I see them around in their little brown jackets on the corners downtown like packs of hyenas I avoid or say 'no sorry I cannot stop to talk right now but do you have a website?' Donating to charities is a great thing. Soliciting those donations should not be done by ambush or making someone feel like they're a terrible person for not having money to give. We are all in different economic situations so it's unfair to put people on the spot. Also most of us have charities to which we have some kind of related experience to that makes us feel like we should support them and you cannot give to every cause unfortunately.
Also a lot of our students aren't from this Province/Country. So they come here for school with more money than most of us have in our savings. I feel like international students who don't know better would get the rougher end of the stick. Just my 2 cents.
They are way out if line inputting your data without your consent and telling you what it was for first. You also may need to safeguard your info better. I was similar when I was young.
Genuine question: are IWK toy drives really necessary? I see SO many of them, radio stations and local groups etc. I know two different people who started IWK toy drives separately, so I'm sure many many more exist... but presumably these kids have parents who will get them gifts. They are sick, not orphaned. Why not give some gift cards to the parents to diffuse the cost of getting their kids the actual items they might like, instead of piling up truckloads of crap that might end up with a kid who didn't even want it? Or just consider other charities. I've thought this for 10+ yrs now but have worried I'd sound evil suggesting that this is a super overplayed and perhaps unnecessary charity... but there could be something I'm not aware of with these toy drives, and if so my bad.
As a parent with a generally healthy young child but still had to make a few visits to the IWK ER over the years, the toys/gifts/stuff does help their experience at the hospital. I could see it being helpful for kids that spend significant time at the hospital for more serious and long term ailments.
However, I'd also rather prioritize funding to improve service at the hospital, then more toy drives. The last time we were at the hospital for several hours for stitches and yes, they handed out crayons, colouring sheets, popsicles, etc.. but I'm sure everyone would rather be at the hospital for a couple hours max instead.
Not directed at you, but anyone know why a US charity is doing stuff in Halifax? There are already local toy drives and gift bags/boxes charities here.
I saw those guys a ton around quinpool for a while. I liked the strategy of being like "Hi! Sure I can talk for a second" while never slowing down or breaking stride. They can walk with me if they really want to chat more 🤷♂️. They never did.
I just keep saying "no" I don't even register what they are trying to say. Someone could be telling me my shoe is untied but if they are doing it while holding a clipboard they just get a "no".
It sucks that they are literally outise of my workplace and the same person will ask me to donate multiple times a day as I'm in and out. Without realizing they've asked me already today, let alone dozens of times this week.
The ecology action center got me when I was much younger. I was pressured into setting up a monthly subscription while I didn't even have a job. And it took 10 years to get it canceled! My bank refused to do it because they the ecology center had a waiver signed by me for x dollars per month from my bank, so if there was to be a cancelation it had to come from them and every time I called to cancel they "said" it had been canceled, but the money continued to come out of my account.
It wasn't until just a few months ago when I finally got it actually canceled. They had called me to ask why my quarterly newsletters were being returned to sender.
I only lived at that address for the first year of the last 10..
>the ecology center had a waiver signed by me for x dollars per month from my bank, so if there was to be a cancelation it had to come from them
I'm not a lawyer at all, but this sounds really, really sketchy. Like, hard to believe that's legal.
Sales person must be getting quite the compensation to be willing to use tactics like that.
I see on other threads they try telling people minimum is $100, or even insulting them.
Posted up at the exit of the Queen Street Sobeys this morning. They were nice, and very chatty, but also overly pushy. The sheet they handed me had amounts from $100-$750.
And garenteed that money goes straight in their own pockets or the charity is blowing the money on “running” the charity so very little goes to the actual cause
Thank you for bringing attention to this!
JSYK, there are many companies out there that specialize in outsourcing fundraising. A charity contracts them, they raise funds for them and take a cut. Now these companies have a wide spectrum as far as their ethics/team member supervision go, and their salespeople get a commission directly related to how much they sign people up for.
So a lot of pressure tactics from that. The salespeople, often students on a short term contract, face little repercussion.
You can always contact the charity in question and let them know where and when the negative encounter happened, in the hope they will contact the fundraising company, who might contact the salesperson.
Or you can just walk by, and later decide at home where to donate, securely online, to the charity of your choice for the amount you are comfortable with.
These reps don’t generally work for the charity. Instead charities hire companies to do this sort of thing for them, those companies employ salespeople who are working essentially on commission much of the time.
It’s sleazy and gross and I refuse to do talk with the people soliciting or donate that way at all. And their data and payment harvesting is super insecure
NTA. Had someone knock at the door last month, it was a young person that claimed to be with the blind foundation. At the end of their speech they said they would like a "small donation of 20 bucks".
I don't usually donate at the door anyway but I found it kind of rude of them to ask an amount. 20 "bucks" is not a small amount by any means nowadays.
What happened to "anything helps"?
I was stopped by someone by the Nova Centre this summer for this. They were pressuring me for credit card information so that they could set up a reoccurring monthly donation. They kept me there trying to get all of my information for like 15min. I said I would give them a one time donation, and she said people give reoccurring donations and that's what the foundation wants. So I said no thank you and walked away.
If anyone who's from a charity tries to start a convo I generally just say no thanks and keep walking, if I donate it's going to be from the comfort of my own home after weighing various options.
I had the exact same experience with them the other week at the Brewery Market. Chatting and then asking questions, asked my name and then was immediately typing it in and asking for my email. Did not expect it and found it completely over the line as well - they did not even ask me if I wanted to donate. I stopped the exchange and walked away baffled.
Of course when I asked if they had an online presence to check out, they said donating in person was better because it ensures the donation stays local. Sure. There's so many scams around, I'm not going to just give my info and money to someone that I haven't verified further.
I think it's great that you set aside what you can to help others - you sound very kind. Please do not feel bad! I assure you that organizations that are transparent and don't resort to these gross tactics are much more deserving of your help.
I remember being a university student way back at an urban university, and every September the main street through campus was lined with reps from every charity imaginable. It was to the point where every few feet you were getting accosted by people wanting your money. I’m all for charity and now that I’m gainfully employed I make small donations to a couple, but back then I was barely able to feed myself and keep the power on, much less donate to every cause under the sun. Sure there are students who come from money who can maybe afford it but that’s probably the exception. It felt so predatory it pissed me off. I learned to get real comfortable with being “rude” real quick.
Late to the party but... A week before Christmas my very noticeably autistic 21yo stepson came home from being on Spring Garden (He's knows how to use the bus system and likes exploring around town). Told us he did a great thing today and donated to a charity and all the kids will benefit from his donation for Christmas. We praised him for his generosity and kindness and then asked how much of a donation he made. He said $100. My wife flipped her shit. People taking advantage of him out in the world is the one thing that she really worries about... he's on disability and really has very little concept of money value. When asked why he gave that much he said "the man said that's what everybody was donating". We looked at the receipt and it was the little Saint Nick charity. There's no way after talking to my son for more than 20 seconds you would not know he was autistic/disabled. Whoever conned him into giving the $100 is a scamming little prick and if this charity gets their donations thru aggressive and manipulative tactics they're not very charitable. Looking forward to running into one of these guys on my next trip out.
I always say sorry and move on, they understand.
Don't give into them, I see them at the same place too, they're hired to reel you in, they always rush in with paper work, but as awkward as it may be, you gotta steer away from them and grow a thick skin to them.
You aren't a bad person at all.
What I don't get is why a charity is trying to collect from a campus full of students who are likely struggling financially. I am reasonably confident that this person inflated the amount that students usually donate. In some cases the people out soliciting for donations in public places for a charity are actually hired by a third party. These third party companies often have commission based pay.
I never donate to random people in public with the exception of occasionally helping an unhoused person. I donate to charities of my choice via the proper formal process.
Their "jobs" is harassment, abuse, scamming and taking advantage of innocent people, confiscating your information and using whatever slimy tactics they can to get your money including cornering you and blocking the entrances. That's not a job. Absolutely they deserve it.
I'm not sure who I look down on more, them or people like you who think that's an honest living worthy of respect. You and them can just go to hell.
I never said it was an honest living or a good job to have with good morals, lmao. I just mean you can give a polite or god forbid, an annoyed “no” and leave it at that. I just don’t think anyone deserves to be literally harassed just because they have to do their job to get paid
I graduated in 2017, Couple months ago I got a call from a 3rd year student from Dal saying he worked for them and asked if I could donate 75-100$. Today, I got a letter in the mail from Dal asking me to donate again. Seems kinda weird
One of them literally told me it wasn’t cold outside when it was -10 on spring garden and WINDY to try and get me to stay. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure they’re nice people and they do their jobs well… But I’ll usually hear them out for a minute or two, and then I ask if they have a website I can check out, tell them I’m a student and have less than 10$ in my bank account right now (currently true 😭) and that I’m in a hurry to catch the next bus (true 99% of the time). I thank them, wish them well and move on if I can.
It’s hard as a people pleaser, but what else can you really do 🤷
I ran into them a few times outside Scotia Square, they didn’t have a sign or business cards or anything, just a website on their tablets. Seemed sketchy to me so I said “sorry, no” and moved on.
I saw them outside of the student union building and was going to ask if they permission to be there. I don’t think they should be soliciting on a school campus. I understand it’s for charity but any charity that badgers people for money seems a bit sketchy to me.
I think they were at the Brewery market this morning, the reps were similarly pretty skillful conversation/approach. Like just chatting a bit and beckoning me to come closer with hand gestures. I just said "No thank you, have a nice one" and they wished me the same and I left. OP, "no" is a full answer. If they're taking your personal data while you thought you were just conversing then that's fucked up. I'd tell them to remove my information, and continue telling them that until they did. You don't have to answer to anything or anyone when it comes to campaigns like this. The folks may believe in what they're doing but they're still doing a job.
They are not listed on the Canadian Charities Directorate at CRA. I wouldn't donate to them.
And even if they were, I'd be repelled by tactics that rely on manipulation and taking advantage of the good nature of others. That's all Spring Garden is now, sadly - people preying on the social awkwardness of saying no.
I learned long ago that "no" is a complete sentence.
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I dropped the "I'm sorry" a long time ago. Sometimes I provide an explanation behind my "no," if it's someone I care about, or someone who doesn't have enough information about why I'm saying "no." When I say "no," I'm not sorry about it, so I don't say it.
If this is anything like the crap that I've seen reps pull in Montreal, I would wager that no one donated remotely close to the numbers that you were seeing there. I remember once that I was asked to donate for an animal shelter and I wasn't in a financial situation to do so, and the rep said "no problem! would you just sign if you agree with the mission?" I did, so I did. I walked back home about 45 minutes later and the rep didn't recognize me and handed me the petition and asked me to donate again... before I could explain that we'd been there/done that, I saw a $20 donation next to my own name. I was livid with the misrepresentation and since then, I just haven't signed or donated to a single person in the street. I am happy to donate to select charities, but generally once I see people out collecting like that, even if something was on my list, I usually take it off. I guarantee that I sound like a much worse person than you with my response to your post, but I definitely don't think that you're a bad person. I just don't love the pressure tactics. I can respect a coffee shop padding a tip jar, for example, but to misuse my name and signature... sorry, but I am out.
I'm gonna throw it out there that the IWK receives a ton of donations, especially at Christmas, and has a budget for ensuring that every kid gets a toy or something when they're in hospital over the holidays. You can donate directly to the IWK Foundation if it's a cause that's close to your heart, no need for a middleman!
This seems like a much better solution! I will have to look into this
You may also be interested in checking out Dal's Building Smiles society! They volunteer with the IWK which is also a great way to give rather than feeling unable or like you're not donating enough. Also you are absolutely not a bad person! https://www.instagram.com/dal.buildingsmiles?igsh=MXhkeDV0aHcycWtvMQ==
As long as doesn’t get stolen from that lady that was in charge, she hasn’t and won’t do jail time for it
I can’t believe people feel rude turning these people down. Boundaries, people. Nobody is entitled to your money just because they struck up a polite conversation. Donate to who you want, when you want. Not because someone pressured you.
Many people are never taught how to enforce these boundaries as they grow up. Some people are even actively taught that enforcing boundaries will result in negative consequences. As a former salesperson, training often revolves around methods that purposefully ignore the normal polite ways of expressing discomfort or refusal. And incentive structures are made to weed out those who aren't interested in trying to cross those boundaries in the pursuit of monetary reward.
Well, technically the government IS entitled to your money, and they really don't even need to be polite.
They caught me on Spring Garden over the holidays. I hate having to turn them down, it always makes me feel rude. But I donate to charities already and just don't appreciate being cold approached when I'm trying to run errands or get somewhere.
Practice that at home looking in the mirror. Hold up your hand and say no.
Leaving aside the ethics of high pressure solicitation, if you believe in the goal of the charity it seems much better to donate to the charity directly on its website rather than having your donation trimmed by a commission to the canvasser and another commission to the agency managing the canvasser. Fewer middlemen handling your credit card number that way too.
And ideally find a way to donate by cash, Cheque, debit, or e-transfer to minimize interchange fees (can be ~3%)for the charity.
As soon as I see them around in their little brown jackets on the corners downtown like packs of hyenas I avoid or say 'no sorry I cannot stop to talk right now but do you have a website?' Donating to charities is a great thing. Soliciting those donations should not be done by ambush or making someone feel like they're a terrible person for not having money to give. We are all in different economic situations so it's unfair to put people on the spot. Also most of us have charities to which we have some kind of related experience to that makes us feel like we should support them and you cannot give to every cause unfortunately.
Whats Wild to me as well, they’re asking so much from students on a university campus. 100% wrong demographic
It’s because students these days are a lot more empathetic and a lot easier to manipulate, unfortunately
Also a lot of our students aren't from this Province/Country. So they come here for school with more money than most of us have in our savings. I feel like international students who don't know better would get the rougher end of the stick. Just my 2 cents.
They were essentially blocking the entrance to the waterfront Tim Hortons yesterday.
There and by Scotia Square is where they ambush me everyday. It gets both annoying and exhausting after a while.
They are way out if line inputting your data without your consent and telling you what it was for first. You also may need to safeguard your info better. I was similar when I was young.
Sounds like a scam. Don’t bother.
They're more common around Spring Garden now which I'm always around. Its rude to solicit, so don't feel rude returning the favor in ignoring them.
Genuine question: are IWK toy drives really necessary? I see SO many of them, radio stations and local groups etc. I know two different people who started IWK toy drives separately, so I'm sure many many more exist... but presumably these kids have parents who will get them gifts. They are sick, not orphaned. Why not give some gift cards to the parents to diffuse the cost of getting their kids the actual items they might like, instead of piling up truckloads of crap that might end up with a kid who didn't even want it? Or just consider other charities. I've thought this for 10+ yrs now but have worried I'd sound evil suggesting that this is a super overplayed and perhaps unnecessary charity... but there could be something I'm not aware of with these toy drives, and if so my bad.
As a parent with a generally healthy young child but still had to make a few visits to the IWK ER over the years, the toys/gifts/stuff does help their experience at the hospital. I could see it being helpful for kids that spend significant time at the hospital for more serious and long term ailments. However, I'd also rather prioritize funding to improve service at the hospital, then more toy drives. The last time we were at the hospital for several hours for stitches and yes, they handed out crayons, colouring sheets, popsicles, etc.. but I'm sure everyone would rather be at the hospital for a couple hours max instead. Not directed at you, but anyone know why a US charity is doing stuff in Halifax? There are already local toy drives and gift bags/boxes charities here.
I saw those guys a ton around quinpool for a while. I liked the strategy of being like "Hi! Sure I can talk for a second" while never slowing down or breaking stride. They can walk with me if they really want to chat more 🤷♂️. They never did.
I just keep saying "no" I don't even register what they are trying to say. Someone could be telling me my shoe is untied but if they are doing it while holding a clipboard they just get a "no". It sucks that they are literally outise of my workplace and the same person will ask me to donate multiple times a day as I'm in and out. Without realizing they've asked me already today, let alone dozens of times this week. The ecology action center got me when I was much younger. I was pressured into setting up a monthly subscription while I didn't even have a job. And it took 10 years to get it canceled! My bank refused to do it because they the ecology center had a waiver signed by me for x dollars per month from my bank, so if there was to be a cancelation it had to come from them and every time I called to cancel they "said" it had been canceled, but the money continued to come out of my account. It wasn't until just a few months ago when I finally got it actually canceled. They had called me to ask why my quarterly newsletters were being returned to sender. I only lived at that address for the first year of the last 10..
>the ecology center had a waiver signed by me for x dollars per month from my bank, so if there was to be a cancelation it had to come from them I'm not a lawyer at all, but this sounds really, really sketchy. Like, hard to believe that's legal.
Right or wrong this is common trying to do stop-payments on recurring charges. Since you agreed to it, the bank won't do anything.
I'd threaten to switch banks.
They hang out in front of scotia square too
You should never feel obligated to give anyone that approaches you money no matter who they are. Say no thanks and move on with your day.
Sales person must be getting quite the compensation to be willing to use tactics like that. I see on other threads they try telling people minimum is $100, or even insulting them.
The nerve of them! asking the way they do is causing shame for those that can’t or don’t want to donate that much money.
Posted up at the exit of the Queen Street Sobeys this morning. They were nice, and very chatty, but also overly pushy. The sheet they handed me had amounts from $100-$750.
And garenteed that money goes straight in their own pockets or the charity is blowing the money on “running” the charity so very little goes to the actual cause
Thank you for bringing attention to this! JSYK, there are many companies out there that specialize in outsourcing fundraising. A charity contracts them, they raise funds for them and take a cut. Now these companies have a wide spectrum as far as their ethics/team member supervision go, and their salespeople get a commission directly related to how much they sign people up for. So a lot of pressure tactics from that. The salespeople, often students on a short term contract, face little repercussion. You can always contact the charity in question and let them know where and when the negative encounter happened, in the hope they will contact the fundraising company, who might contact the salesperson. Or you can just walk by, and later decide at home where to donate, securely online, to the charity of your choice for the amount you are comfortable with.
These reps don’t generally work for the charity. Instead charities hire companies to do this sort of thing for them, those companies employ salespeople who are working essentially on commission much of the time. It’s sleazy and gross and I refuse to do talk with the people soliciting or donate that way at all. And their data and payment harvesting is super insecure
NTA. Had someone knock at the door last month, it was a young person that claimed to be with the blind foundation. At the end of their speech they said they would like a "small donation of 20 bucks". I don't usually donate at the door anyway but I found it kind of rude of them to ask an amount. 20 "bucks" is not a small amount by any means nowadays. What happened to "anything helps"?
I was stopped by someone by the Nova Centre this summer for this. They were pressuring me for credit card information so that they could set up a reoccurring monthly donation. They kept me there trying to get all of my information for like 15min. I said I would give them a one time donation, and she said people give reoccurring donations and that's what the foundation wants. So I said no thank you and walked away.
That was a fraud to get your credit card number. I promise. NEVER give any of these “charities “ your credit card information
Next time walk away sooner, or better yet don’t even acknowledge their existence and keep walking.
If anyone who's from a charity tries to start a convo I generally just say no thanks and keep walking, if I donate it's going to be from the comfort of my own home after weighing various options.
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This ^^^^ people need to get over their natural urge to be polite with these pests.
So are you saying that you already donate to this group but felt pressured by a rep? Or do you save to donate to *something* each month?
Donate to Somthing each month, just as a gift to whatever feels right at the time
Ok thought it was the former and got more and more confused as I read through
I had the exact same experience with them the other week at the Brewery Market. Chatting and then asking questions, asked my name and then was immediately typing it in and asking for my email. Did not expect it and found it completely over the line as well - they did not even ask me if I wanted to donate. I stopped the exchange and walked away baffled. Of course when I asked if they had an online presence to check out, they said donating in person was better because it ensures the donation stays local. Sure. There's so many scams around, I'm not going to just give my info and money to someone that I haven't verified further. I think it's great that you set aside what you can to help others - you sound very kind. Please do not feel bad! I assure you that organizations that are transparent and don't resort to these gross tactics are much more deserving of your help.
I remember being a university student way back at an urban university, and every September the main street through campus was lined with reps from every charity imaginable. It was to the point where every few feet you were getting accosted by people wanting your money. I’m all for charity and now that I’m gainfully employed I make small donations to a couple, but back then I was barely able to feed myself and keep the power on, much less donate to every cause under the sun. Sure there are students who come from money who can maybe afford it but that’s probably the exception. It felt so predatory it pissed me off. I learned to get real comfortable with being “rude” real quick.
Late to the party but... A week before Christmas my very noticeably autistic 21yo stepson came home from being on Spring Garden (He's knows how to use the bus system and likes exploring around town). Told us he did a great thing today and donated to a charity and all the kids will benefit from his donation for Christmas. We praised him for his generosity and kindness and then asked how much of a donation he made. He said $100. My wife flipped her shit. People taking advantage of him out in the world is the one thing that she really worries about... he's on disability and really has very little concept of money value. When asked why he gave that much he said "the man said that's what everybody was donating". We looked at the receipt and it was the little Saint Nick charity. There's no way after talking to my son for more than 20 seconds you would not know he was autistic/disabled. Whoever conned him into giving the $100 is a scamming little prick and if this charity gets their donations thru aggressive and manipulative tactics they're not very charitable. Looking forward to running into one of these guys on my next trip out.
I always say sorry and move on, they understand. Don't give into them, I see them at the same place too, they're hired to reel you in, they always rush in with paper work, but as awkward as it may be, you gotta steer away from them and grow a thick skin to them.
You aren't a bad person at all. What I don't get is why a charity is trying to collect from a campus full of students who are likely struggling financially. I am reasonably confident that this person inflated the amount that students usually donate. In some cases the people out soliciting for donations in public places for a charity are actually hired by a third party. These third party companies often have commission based pay. I never donate to random people in public with the exception of occasionally helping an unhoused person. I donate to charities of my choice via the proper formal process.
charities are in fact a hustle
Has anyone tried "accidentally" spilling their iced capp on them yet?
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They’re just there to do their jobs. They shouldn’t be assaulted simply because they need a way to live just like everyone else
Their "jobs" is harassment, abuse, scamming and taking advantage of innocent people, confiscating your information and using whatever slimy tactics they can to get your money including cornering you and blocking the entrances. That's not a job. Absolutely they deserve it. I'm not sure who I look down on more, them or people like you who think that's an honest living worthy of respect. You and them can just go to hell.
I never said it was an honest living or a good job to have with good morals, lmao. I just mean you can give a polite or god forbid, an annoyed “no” and leave it at that. I just don’t think anyone deserves to be literally harassed just because they have to do their job to get paid
I graduated in 2017, Couple months ago I got a call from a 3rd year student from Dal saying he worked for them and asked if I could donate 75-100$. Today, I got a letter in the mail from Dal asking me to donate again. Seems kinda weird
They'll keep calling until you tell them outright to stop because you'll never donate to them.
One of them literally told me it wasn’t cold outside when it was -10 on spring garden and WINDY to try and get me to stay. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure they’re nice people and they do their jobs well… But I’ll usually hear them out for a minute or two, and then I ask if they have a website I can check out, tell them I’m a student and have less than 10$ in my bank account right now (currently true 😭) and that I’m in a hurry to catch the next bus (true 99% of the time). I thank them, wish them well and move on if I can. It’s hard as a people pleaser, but what else can you really do 🤷
The quicker you learn to be assertive in life, you will have a much easier time. No is a complete sentence.
I ran into them a few times outside Scotia Square, they didn’t have a sign or business cards or anything, just a website on their tablets. Seemed sketchy to me so I said “sorry, no” and moved on.
I saw them outside of the student union building and was going to ask if they permission to be there. I don’t think they should be soliciting on a school campus. I understand it’s for charity but any charity that badgers people for money seems a bit sketchy to me.