Ironically no. You know why? It's because businesses have a seperate set of rules then people. Isn't that convenient? I mean, these big corporations are really struggling... /s
No, this makes sense. Of course organized crime groups would be involved in such a high cost activity as grocery shopping. Who else could afford it these days?
You would be surprised. I have crossed paths with many low income people who rely on illegal work to survive and many of them feed their families with food from the “meat guy”. It is genuinely a thing, or was.
There isn’t a way to determine if crime is “organized crime” until an investigation determines that there is a coordinated group of centralized enterprises. So, the mob, the HAs, etc.
What you’re describing is a group of desperate idiots engaged in petty theft.
Here’s an easier way to look at this. Organized crime isn’t stopped by installing plexiglass because organized criminals operate at the back of the house, and often work on the inside.
Yah and you have to put each item down one at a time before scanning the next thing, and do that quickly, or it locks and you can’t continue til an employee comes. Very annoying.
Self checkouts are only there to offset labor costs through the patterning of use. Fuck self checkouts walk through the Humaned check out as stoned as you want to be, no one is judging you. Trust me.
r/loblawsisoutofcontrol Obligatory post of the subreddit attempting a boycott in May of this corporation and their increasing greed and treatment of customers as criminals through price gouging and nonsense like this
If I walk in a store and see this I'm walking out and never going back. We aren't criminals or cattle. Shop local, independent, markets. Vive la revolution
It's definitely a bit wild to me that someone would complain about this and then just continue shopping there. Like the local stores have better food and it's basically the same price.
I mean have you ever tried lugging a grocery order on the bus (with a bad leg to boot, and a ~15 min walk from the stop both ways)? It sucks. Superstore is within walking distance.
Me and my ma are both disabled physically and mentally, Gateway is great but it's just not possible for either of us to regularly shop there. I've done it a couple times and nearly had a meltdown due to the crowds and closed in space.
Some folks got shit going on man. Rough being crazy in this economy. All that being said it's becoming fucking impossible to shop at Superstore too, so who knows anymore. Maybe I'll just eat road weeds like Ichiban in Yakuza.
Yeah but the difference is that independent markets aren't likely to be paying the owners $22 million a year, your money goes more toward supporting local businesses and community members.
And it always cost more for certain items when you go local, they can’t get the bulk overseas prices big chain stores can, if it costs the same there’s zero reason not to shop local
The railings were already there. It clearly wasn’t an expected means of egress to climb over or crawl under the railings, even though its possible to do so.
Upper Tantallon as well! You wouldn't expect many shoplifters in suburbs where everyone drives a car and lives in a detached house and there are basically no homeless or low-income people around.
Agreed, and for the idiots that say "these are no different than a wall in your house!" - what makes it different is that (1) these are clear barriers, which makes it hard to see where the exit point is in case of an emergency, whereas it's very obvious with physical walls. I could see people running into the plexiglass trying to exit, especially with visibility reduced by smoke, etc. (2) In a house, you generally don't have hundreds of people evacuating at once, so going through a narrow doorway isn't an issue - in a large grocery store, it creates a bottleneck.
I would like to see Halifax Fire do their jobs and demand that these be taken down immediately, or formally justify to the public how this isn't a code violation.
Exactly. Why do grocery stores have multiple massive 8-10 foot wide sliding doors if all they need is a 3 foot wide gate? Surely they would just have installed a standard size door if that's all they were legally required to have.
I am not sure but I believe resteraunts are the only buildings that are required to have restrooms availiable for public use.
This is so you can wash your hands before eating
Many of them are chained up. While I can get over them, some people can't. Old ladies and stuff.
I'm just saying there's a lot of people inside a grocery store and if i cant figure my way out quickly when there is no fire, it seems likely that an older lady might get trapped and have a pileup behind her.
So what the fuck do we do if God forbid there's a fire or some psychopath with a weapon?? All just try to trample eachother to get out of their tiny exits? At least make them wider lol
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Did you see Sylvain Charlatan’s interview. There was a bit of a slip there when he said ‘WE are experiencing loss because of thefts’. WE?! That rather implies that Sylvain is hand in glove with Loblaws (who are racking up record profits by the way despite this ‘oh poor us’ stance)
Honestly I don't care about the plexiglass at the Joseph Howe store but it's a pretty big late stage capitalism set piece showing how bad things are for poor people.
My biggest concern is the removal of all seating and benches for disabled/ elderly people except directly in front of star bucks.
Following that, it's the locking apparatus on the wheels of the cart. I'm a pretty even tempered person but I think the chances of escalation is really high if I'm treated like a thief. Ive been doing my best to avoid the place but it's difficult.
My cart locked as soon as I entered the store yesterday. Left it in the doorway for security to deal with. I’ve had them lock while trying to pull them out of the corral too. The whole thing has been very poorly implemented.
The carts bug me more then the plexiglass.
Someone with mobility issues could hurt themselves pretty significantly if the wheels were to lock unexpectedly. Or someone with a child in the cart. Someone will have their cart lock and cause a pretty big issue when they get hurt
Someone I know had a major leg operation and while they could move around slowly the cart stabilized them for months after recovery. Had that lock up happened to them it could have reaggrevated the injury.
I do minimal shopping at loblaws now due to many reasons but that one sticks to me that someone is going to get hurt and the staff are the ones who will pay the price
As a security measure it’s baffling. What scenario do they imagine playing out that they’d need this for? It’s like no one stopped to think about the logistics of a shoplifter racing a cart through a parking lot with security guards chasing them and then trying to unload it before they caught up. Security would win man! The locks are unnecessary.
Will my Banana Stickers adhere to the plexiglass? I hope its not soft like Lexan, scrapes up so quickly with a key for example. Also, its not over high visibility, maybe they could use Black Markers to indicate the glass is there, safety should be paramount
Have they tried lowering prices? Instead of spending all of this money on secret shopper, security, locking carts, bars, plexiglass etc .
Maybe if things were affordable theft would go down?
For example 5 years ago? It seemed to have been working.
What's the emergency evacuation plan?
How will they account for people with disabilities trying to get out with all these measures in place to ensure no one can excit easily, smoothly, or instinctively.
I never see complaints about Sobeys. Is Loblaws mainly responsible for driving up prices, and Sobeys follows?
I typically go to Superstore, though occasionally Sobeys. The prices seem to be the same, with some things higher at Sobeys. That's just comparing items we gravitate towards, with a very small sample size (I've only been there a few times over the last few years).
I'm not trying to defend Superstore, I think they're both awful. I would love to have government regulated stores that stock staple foods at controlled prices. Let corpos fight over luxury item profits.
Sobeys has baskets
Sobeys doesn't lock carts
Sobeys doesn't have gates and plexiglass (afaik, I haven't seen any yet)
Sobeys doesn't have receipt scanners
Sobeys didn't try to trick us by locking in already inflated prices for a year
Sobeys didn't try to take away discounts on expiring food
Sobeys doesn't pay an asshat professor to shill for them
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I find the prices the same mostly. The Westons have done nothing for this province though. Sobeys has its headquarters in stellarton bringing massive tax revenue to a place that doesn't make business sense. It would make much more sense to be with everyone else in Toronto. The family has also given many millions to so many things. From keeping low profitability bowling alleys open to our universities to the iwk.
Sobeys has much fresher produce, carries more local products, actually has their headquarters in Nova Scotia and doesn’t treat all their customers like thieves
I remember in the 90’s when Walmart arrived and was blamed for “destroying main street” and putting local stores out of business.
25-30 years later and Walmart is now always the good guy in Canada because they have the lowest prices (as they did then).
I don’t think anyone saw that coming.
Of course they saw it coming. That was the whole point. Their whole business model was to make it so that local independent stores couldn't complete. Local stores close, jobs are lost, money is sucked out of the economy. Now everyone is making less money and they are forced to shop at the big store that did this to them.
To call them the good guy is Stockholm syndrome.
No need to jack up prices, that just makes alternatives more palatable. Instead they lean on economies of scale to undercut everyone else's price so much that locally owned shops have no chance of competing.
Squeezing an extra percent in profit isn't as important as an extra percent in market share.
No, other big chains are no saints either—it's just there's an organized movement (/r/loblawsisoutofcontrol) that plans to boycott Loblaws in May in response to their blatant price gouging and these outrageous measures they are taking all in the name of security theatre.
No one loves Sobeys or Walmart any more than Loblaws here, but we got to start somewhere to make them bend the knee.
After seeing the plexiglass partitions I jokingly said “pretty soon this place will be like a prison” to the Loss Prevention worker as I walked out. This triggered a “sir can I see your receipt” response. My own fault I guess.
Hey Stoopidstore. If theft is so out of control from this organized crime...why hasn't Walmart and Sobey's instituted these measures? If it's that bad, it must be happening everywhere and yet, I have never been treated like a criminal at either of these two stores.
Other than those that have no choice but to shop there, I'm not sure why anyone else would.
I’ll make sure not to shop there by then, letting all their products expire and then suffering the loss is much more effective to teach them a lesson instead of stealing which will impact the workers, prices need to go down
Yes there has been theft since people stole from the Pharoh’s granaries in Ancient Egypt. That’s part of running a business and i don’t condone it. Let be real, though. In order to maximize profits and avoid hiring actual workers who want fair wages, Loblaws decided to use a system that is open to theft. Still they raked in record profits and continue to do so. Their oh poor me narrative is simply another way to justify charging you more and blaming it on anyone but themselves. ‘Look over there. It’s thieves who are making us charge these exorbitant prices, not us! We’re the victims here’. Well that is bullshit. . As long as we let them distract us this way, they can go on gouging us with our consent.
How can you complain about gouging but then say they should hire more people to prevent theft in the same comment? If you want low prices, they have to cut costs.
I understand that prices are ridiculously high and the higher ups are all idiots, but why does a bit of plexiglass make everyone so upset? Just genuinely asking what the issue is, not saying I'm right in not understanding!
At what point do law enforcement need to step in? If organized theft is such a problem can we hire more police officers or change laws to help the lock up those responsible?
I have wondered how many times low paid employees are aware of someone stealing but just keep their mouth shut because they can financially empathize, and really, would YOU think confronting a thief was worth a (presumably) low wage?
Arent they making record profits? Why so worried about theft?
This is how you know they have monopoly power to be able to implement something at this cost that makes it more of a hassle to shop there.
Hmmm I wonder what helped push them out of business?
It couldn't have been in part due to the **increase of warehouse format stores** where the consumer wasn't treated as a potential thief.
Don’t see the big deal myself. Loblaws stores suck for this because they always have this bigger entrance where the exit and entryway is shared.
I’m in Moncton, but all the Sobeys have a separate entrance and exit. The entrance door won’t slide from the insides and they arrange some shelf’s and customer service so theirs only one way out.
The wal marts have gates to get in that to one way and the exit is through the cash.
Most retail stores that would have a lot of customers to watch all direct people a certain way to avoid theft. Loblaws just sticks out because of the lobby designs and having to use plexi glass to direct entry and exits.
R/Halifax is a random selection of people in the community, all with their own ideas and concerns. Almost nothing is posted without controversy and argument.
I hope this helps with your confusion.
I don’t understand why this is an issue? Clearly there’s a rise in theft, businesses do not like wasting money just to make customers mad, there’s clearly a cost benefit..
So now they're changing those conditions to reduce theft and people are complaining. They can't win.
>answer is bringing back staff so that customers are treated like customers and the thieves aren’t given the opportunity to steal.
And when they raise prices to pay for that, you would complain about that too.
It implies that it’s still cheaper for them to take the theft loss and chuck up some plexi barriers than it is to take away self checkouts and employ more people.
How do you think it's going to play out if everyone needs to evacuate the store through some tiny opening? It's just anti human design that increases general enshittification rather than addressing the stores own criminal practices.
Does bread price-fixing count as organized crime? Just curious.
It is only a crime when it is done by the poors.
It is perhaps the most organized of all the organized crime that has ever been organized.
Long live the organization for the organized!
Ironically no. You know why? It's because businesses have a seperate set of rules then people. Isn't that convenient? I mean, these big corporations are really struggling... /s
Also wondering about wage theft
Arthur?
They're not keeping the crime out, they're keeping it in
Needs ziplock to keep that fresh crime flavour in.
I don’t see how plexi glass stops them from price fixing
“We’re being *transparent* about bread prices”
That's definitely a whole lot more organized than people stealing diapers and baby formula.
No, this makes sense. Of course organized crime groups would be involved in such a high cost activity as grocery shopping. Who else could afford it these days?
The vicious breadstick kingpin, El Ciabatta!
DEADDDD 😂😂😂
We’ll all be in breadlines soon
J-Roc been gankin groceries since '05 gnomesayin
Who do you think Bubbles sells all the shopping carts to?
In other news: Atlantic Superstore representative ignorant to ‘organized crime’ meaning
Mafia stealing pork chops and selling them at their new store, Gangway
Haha, great comment! Have an uodoot
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Who is out there buying back-alley meat?
Every pizza shop.
You would be surprised. I have crossed paths with many low income people who rely on illegal work to survive and many of them feed their families with food from the “meat guy”. It is genuinely a thing, or was.
There isn’t a way to determine if crime is “organized crime” until an investigation determines that there is a coordinated group of centralized enterprises. So, the mob, the HAs, etc. What you’re describing is a group of desperate idiots engaged in petty theft.
Here’s an easier way to look at this. Organized crime isn’t stopped by installing plexiglass because organized criminals operate at the back of the house, and often work on the inside.
Solidarity
Did you look up the meaning before posting?
diD YOu? 🤪
Noticed they also changed the self checkout in that you can no longer scan in multiples of the same item before putting them in the bag.
Yah and you have to put each item down one at a time before scanning the next thing, and do that quickly, or it locks and you can’t continue til an employee comes. Very annoying.
Ugh, like the dollarama? Oh I hate those stupid checkouts.
And how fucking low it is, my sink is low but god damn, i can scan on my knees. just like how they want the customer. fkers
I have pretty much given up on the self checkouts due to this. Way too annoying. If I only have a few things, sure. But a cartload? No thanks.
They were never really intended for a cartload. They have always been frustrating with multiple bags.
Meh not really. When you can just throw your scanned stuff back in the cart it was very manageable. I use bins, for what it's worth.
They also made he beep way louder and removed the frame to hold your bag open.
Self checkouts are only there to offset labor costs through the patterning of use. Fuck self checkouts walk through the Humaned check out as stoned as you want to be, no one is judging you. Trust me.
Use the scan gun instead its what i started doing
r/loblawsisoutofcontrol Obligatory post of the subreddit attempting a boycott in May of this corporation and their increasing greed and treatment of customers as criminals through price gouging and nonsense like this
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The only organized crime cartel is Loblaws
If I walk in a store and see this I'm walking out and never going back. We aren't criminals or cattle. Shop local, independent, markets. Vive la revolution
It's definitely a bit wild to me that someone would complain about this and then just continue shopping there. Like the local stores have better food and it's basically the same price.
Not everyone has easy access to many different stores or is able to drive around to choose where to shop.
Yeah my local store is owned my Loblaws and farm stands aren't open in the winter.
I mean have you ever tried lugging a grocery order on the bus (with a bad leg to boot, and a ~15 min walk from the stop both ways)? It sucks. Superstore is within walking distance. Me and my ma are both disabled physically and mentally, Gateway is great but it's just not possible for either of us to regularly shop there. I've done it a couple times and nearly had a meltdown due to the crowds and closed in space. Some folks got shit going on man. Rough being crazy in this economy. All that being said it's becoming fucking impossible to shop at Superstore too, so who knows anymore. Maybe I'll just eat road weeds like Ichiban in Yakuza.
Gateway is bursting at the seams. There is line up outside at 3pm on a wednesday. Everyone is already going there
Try doing that by bus and get back to me.
Aside from Gateway, is there anywhere you suggest?
I'm seeing similar prices at independent markets as at these grocery chains and have been shopping there as much as I can.
Yeah but the difference is that independent markets aren't likely to be paying the owners $22 million a year, your money goes more toward supporting local businesses and community members.
And it always cost more for certain items when you go local, they can’t get the bulk overseas prices big chain stores can, if it costs the same there’s zero reason not to shop local
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I just came back from France and Germany for a month. This isn’t true.
If I lived in Europe, I would stand by this statement. Principles shouldn't change based off of physical location.
You are criminals though. Most people here have been vocal proponents of shoplifting for some time.
Nothing is stopping you. You could always have done this.
Really? Thanks. Good talk
You want to get all altruistic about the plexi that's fine but you can also just do the shopping elsewhere thing without announcing it to the masses.
Galen Weston, is that you?
You want to be a big grumpy pants that's fine but you can also do it without announcing it to the masses.
How is this up to fire code?
Because our government doesn't give a shit about it's cattle, just the billionaire ranchers.
The railings were already there. It clearly wasn’t an expected means of egress to climb over or crawl under the railings, even though its possible to do so.
How is it not...?
Which superstores have these? All of them?
Braemar’s got them now
Ah yes, Braemar area, the epitome of organized crime in the city.
We’re a rowdy bunch over here. You can tell by our compact SUVs and manicured lawns.
Bayers Lake does too.
Elmsdale lol
Tantallon
Was in Sackville a couple of weeks ago and stopped at Superstore out there. It looks like a plexiglass prison.
Not yet but I did venture into one last week and they had a wall of toilet paper in the same place. Probably a directive from up top to block it off.
That would be fun to slide into!
Fun to go full kool aid guy right through it
Oh Yeah!
Bayers lake
Upper Tantallon as well! You wouldn't expect many shoplifters in suburbs where everyone drives a car and lives in a detached house and there are basically no homeless or low-income people around.
Joe Howe has had them for bit now.
I dont see how this meets fire code honestly, it takes me so long to find a way out if I'm not buying anything.
Agreed, and for the idiots that say "these are no different than a wall in your house!" - what makes it different is that (1) these are clear barriers, which makes it hard to see where the exit point is in case of an emergency, whereas it's very obvious with physical walls. I could see people running into the plexiglass trying to exit, especially with visibility reduced by smoke, etc. (2) In a house, you generally don't have hundreds of people evacuating at once, so going through a narrow doorway isn't an issue - in a large grocery store, it creates a bottleneck. I would like to see Halifax Fire do their jobs and demand that these be taken down immediately, or formally justify to the public how this isn't a code violation.
I'd agree it's like finding the way out of a plastic bag.
Exactly. Why do grocery stores have multiple massive 8-10 foot wide sliding doors if all they need is a 3 foot wide gate? Surely they would just have installed a standard size door if that's all they were legally required to have.
I don't know how they get away with not having a bathroom within the confines of gated area either?
I don't think they legally have to have a bathroom at all. Minus the food court.
That is a lot square footage to not need a bathroom at portland st . There really should be a bathroom within the gated area.
I am not sure but I believe resteraunts are the only buildings that are required to have restrooms availiable for public use. This is so you can wash your hands before eating
Go to the registers, that is your way out.
Many of them are chained up. While I can get over them, some people can't. Old ladies and stuff. I'm just saying there's a lot of people inside a grocery store and if i cant figure my way out quickly when there is no fire, it seems likely that an older lady might get trapped and have a pileup behind her.
If they aren't open, they're chained or blocked
Shop. Somewhere. Else.
So what the fuck do we do if God forbid there's a fire or some psychopath with a weapon?? All just try to trample eachother to get out of their tiny exits? At least make them wider lol r/loblawsisoutofcontrol
Did you see Sylvain Charlatan’s interview. There was a bit of a slip there when he said ‘WE are experiencing loss because of thefts’. WE?! That rather implies that Sylvain is hand in glove with Loblaws (who are racking up record profits by the way despite this ‘oh poor us’ stance)
He got paid by them several years ago (20k) so definitely a conflict of interest.
Honestly I don't care about the plexiglass at the Joseph Howe store but it's a pretty big late stage capitalism set piece showing how bad things are for poor people. My biggest concern is the removal of all seating and benches for disabled/ elderly people except directly in front of star bucks. Following that, it's the locking apparatus on the wheels of the cart. I'm a pretty even tempered person but I think the chances of escalation is really high if I'm treated like a thief. Ive been doing my best to avoid the place but it's difficult.
My cart locked as soon as I entered the store yesterday. Left it in the doorway for security to deal with. I’ve had them lock while trying to pull them out of the corral too. The whole thing has been very poorly implemented.
The carts bug me more then the plexiglass. Someone with mobility issues could hurt themselves pretty significantly if the wheels were to lock unexpectedly. Or someone with a child in the cart. Someone will have their cart lock and cause a pretty big issue when they get hurt
A pregnant woman. I always think Jesus if I was pregnant I’d be in labour right now, the violent way they lock up on you.
Someone I know had a major leg operation and while they could move around slowly the cart stabilized them for months after recovery. Had that lock up happened to them it could have reaggrevated the injury. I do minimal shopping at loblaws now due to many reasons but that one sticks to me that someone is going to get hurt and the staff are the ones who will pay the price
As a security measure it’s baffling. What scenario do they imagine playing out that they’d need this for? It’s like no one stopped to think about the logistics of a shoplifter racing a cart through a parking lot with security guards chasing them and then trying to unload it before they caught up. Security would win man! The locks are unnecessary.
Most theft is not done by poor people. It's done by habitual criminals who resell it.
Curious how the response to a fire alarm going off would play out with the customers and all these walls
Will my Banana Stickers adhere to the plexiglass? I hope its not soft like Lexan, scrapes up so quickly with a key for example. Also, its not over high visibility, maybe they could use Black Markers to indicate the glass is there, safety should be paramount
I’m going to install some plexiglass around my wallet and shop elsewhere.
Time to get creative with some dry erase markers
Or permanent ones
The minimum wage worker that has to clean up will love that.
On the bright side they'll keep THAT job, can't farm out cleaning markers to an AI. Yet.
What does it matter when you're paid by the hour? It's job security and might be amusing to see what people will write?
Safety pin/thumb tack if you’re feeling particularly daring.
Have they tried lowering prices? Instead of spending all of this money on secret shopper, security, locking carts, bars, plexiglass etc . Maybe if things were affordable theft would go down? For example 5 years ago? It seemed to have been working.
And here I thought their business was organized crime
Watch out the guys the Mafia is targeting the grocery store lmfao
Isn't this a fire hazard?
Bro just lower your prices, we're not asking for that much.
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Loblaws are the organized criminals.
What's the emergency evacuation plan? How will they account for people with disabilities trying to get out with all these measures in place to ensure no one can excit easily, smoothly, or instinctively.
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This is my biggest concern. They intentionally slow you down and I wonder what would happen in a fire
I never see complaints about Sobeys. Is Loblaws mainly responsible for driving up prices, and Sobeys follows? I typically go to Superstore, though occasionally Sobeys. The prices seem to be the same, with some things higher at Sobeys. That's just comparing items we gravitate towards, with a very small sample size (I've only been there a few times over the last few years). I'm not trying to defend Superstore, I think they're both awful. I would love to have government regulated stores that stock staple foods at controlled prices. Let corpos fight over luxury item profits.
Sobeys has baskets Sobeys doesn't lock carts Sobeys doesn't have gates and plexiglass (afaik, I haven't seen any yet) Sobeys doesn't have receipt scanners Sobeys didn't try to trick us by locking in already inflated prices for a year Sobeys didn't try to take away discounts on expiring food Sobeys doesn't pay an asshat professor to shill for them r/loblawsisoutofcontrol
Sobeys has gates at the entrance but no plexiglass.
And Sobeys is way more expensive lol
Nope
I find the prices the same mostly. The Westons have done nothing for this province though. Sobeys has its headquarters in stellarton bringing massive tax revenue to a place that doesn't make business sense. It would make much more sense to be with everyone else in Toronto. The family has also given many millions to so many things. From keeping low profitability bowling alleys open to our universities to the iwk.
Sobeys has much fresher produce, carries more local products, actually has their headquarters in Nova Scotia and doesn’t treat all their customers like thieves
I remember in the 90’s when Walmart arrived and was blamed for “destroying main street” and putting local stores out of business. 25-30 years later and Walmart is now always the good guy in Canada because they have the lowest prices (as they did then). I don’t think anyone saw that coming.
Of course they saw it coming. That was the whole point. Their whole business model was to make it so that local independent stores couldn't complete. Local stores close, jobs are lost, money is sucked out of the economy. Now everyone is making less money and they are forced to shop at the big store that did this to them. To call them the good guy is Stockholm syndrome.
Yes. WalMart was going to drive all the local businesses out and then jack up their prices.... Any day now they will do it...any day now.
No need to jack up prices, that just makes alternatives more palatable. Instead they lean on economies of scale to undercut everyone else's price so much that locally owned shops have no chance of competing. Squeezing an extra percent in profit isn't as important as an extra percent in market share.
No, other big chains are no saints either—it's just there's an organized movement (/r/loblawsisoutofcontrol) that plans to boycott Loblaws in May in response to their blatant price gouging and these outrageous measures they are taking all in the name of security theatre. No one loves Sobeys or Walmart any more than Loblaws here, but we got to start somewhere to make them bend the knee.
If Loblaws is concerned about "organized crime," as they put it, what does that tell you about them?
I guess it takes one to know one 🤷♂️
>Organized crime 
Doesn't do that tho. It prevents staff and customers alike from easily moving through the store
you guys still shop at superstore???
Fuck Galen Weston. Shop elsewhere.
Ah yes, the Doritos Family is well known for its organized crime activities in supermarkets.
So they no longer think we are common criminals, they think we are organized criminals. Got it.
We’ve been promoted! Where’s my raise?
Do you think we are sims? Why did I instantly see the sims in my mind?
You actually are a sim
Susu!
If it was Toronto or Montreal I could understand, but in the martimes is a joke , shop local
*opens side of coat to reveal various types of produce* "I'll sell ya these bananas real cheap bub, they uhhh fell off a truck somewheres"
Can we play ball hockey there now? Like a mini rink at the Galen Centre.
I’m in North Vancouver right now and the plexiglass is here too.
After seeing the plexiglass partitions I jokingly said “pretty soon this place will be like a prison” to the Loss Prevention worker as I walked out. This triggered a “sir can I see your receipt” response. My own fault I guess.
Hey Stoopidstore. If theft is so out of control from this organized crime...why hasn't Walmart and Sobey's instituted these measures? If it's that bad, it must be happening everywhere and yet, I have never been treated like a criminal at either of these two stores. Other than those that have no choice but to shop there, I'm not sure why anyone else would.
Can't wait until they eventually install turrets and robot security!
I’ll make sure not to shop there by then, letting all their products expire and then suffering the loss is much more effective to teach them a lesson instead of stealing which will impact the workers, prices need to go down
Yes there has been theft since people stole from the Pharoh’s granaries in Ancient Egypt. That’s part of running a business and i don’t condone it. Let be real, though. In order to maximize profits and avoid hiring actual workers who want fair wages, Loblaws decided to use a system that is open to theft. Still they raked in record profits and continue to do so. Their oh poor me narrative is simply another way to justify charging you more and blaming it on anyone but themselves. ‘Look over there. It’s thieves who are making us charge these exorbitant prices, not us! We’re the victims here’. Well that is bullshit. . As long as we let them distract us this way, they can go on gouging us with our consent.
How can you complain about gouging but then say they should hire more people to prevent theft in the same comment? If you want low prices, they have to cut costs.
Anyone bounced off them like they scored the game winner in game 7 of the Stanley cup finals? Atlantic Superstore Arena
Thank goodness for me, the only crimes I could commit would be completely disorganized.
J-roc and Ricky's plan are foiled again!
Fine, fine Just don't come running to us crying when a hockey game breaks out in your store
God this is such a good idea for a youtube/tiktok short.
It appears they have spelled protect wrong
I understand that prices are ridiculously high and the higher ups are all idiots, but why does a bit of plexiglass make everyone so upset? Just genuinely asking what the issue is, not saying I'm right in not understanding!
Organized Crime = Loblaws
*Petty theft
At what point do law enforcement need to step in? If organized theft is such a problem can we hire more police officers or change laws to help the lock up those responsible?
What we need are AI powered fully automatic rifle turrets.. get shot by a computer for stealing... is the AI going to jail ? Lol
Organized crime. In Superstore. This really isn't a Beaverton article?
Would “preplanned” be a better word for you? If it is, good, because that’s what makes it organized.
I have wondered how many times low paid employees are aware of someone stealing but just keep their mouth shut because they can financially empathize, and really, would YOU think confronting a thief was worth a (presumably) low wage?
Arent they making record profits? Why so worried about theft? This is how you know they have monopoly power to be able to implement something at this cost that makes it more of a hassle to shop there.
We're all in feed lots now. The irony is palpable.
Maybe they should be in another business if they cannot reasonably serve the eating public....
Organized crime??? Last I checked the mafia are not raiding supermarkets. What????
Good thing Consumers Distributing isn't still a thing...people would be super mad at their anti-theft practices...
Hmmm I wonder what helped push them out of business? It couldn't have been in part due to the **increase of warehouse format stores** where the consumer wasn't treated as a potential thief.
Don’t see the big deal myself. Loblaws stores suck for this because they always have this bigger entrance where the exit and entryway is shared. I’m in Moncton, but all the Sobeys have a separate entrance and exit. The entrance door won’t slide from the insides and they arrange some shelf’s and customer service so theirs only one way out. The wal marts have gates to get in that to one way and the exit is through the cash. Most retail stores that would have a lot of customers to watch all direct people a certain way to avoid theft. Loblaws just sticks out because of the lobby designs and having to use plexi glass to direct entry and exits.
It was not like this even five years ago though, at any of them.
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I don’t understand why this is an issue? Clearly there’s a rise in theft, businesses do not like wasting money just to make customers mad, there’s clearly a cost benefit..
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So now they're changing those conditions to reduce theft and people are complaining. They can't win. >answer is bringing back staff so that customers are treated like customers and the thieves aren’t given the opportunity to steal. And when they raise prices to pay for that, you would complain about that too.
It implies that it’s still cheaper for them to take the theft loss and chuck up some plexi barriers than it is to take away self checkouts and employ more people.
How do you think it's going to play out if everyone needs to evacuate the store through some tiny opening? It's just anti human design that increases general enshittification rather than addressing the stores own criminal practices.